Re: Determining a Focal Length

2006-12-23 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, Shel Belinkoff wrote: No, the distances aren't precise, but I can get a more accurate idea the next time I drive past the scene. I think I'll put the Lufkin in the Domke on my way out later t'nite. How about a FF body with the 18mm on it? If it works you know what you

Re: Determining a Focal Length

2006-12-23 Thread P. J. Alling
I think you need the angle of view more than field of view. the formula for AOV is AOF = 2*tan^(-1)/(F/2*f) where F is the size of the sensor f is the focal length. You'll have to use some algebra to rearrange the terms to solve for f. I'm just feeling too lazy... Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Re: Determining a Focal Length

2006-12-23 Thread David Savage
On 12/24/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you need the angle of view more than field of view. the formula for AOV is AOF = 2*tan^(-1)/(F/2*f) where F is the size of the sensor f is the focal length. You'll have to use some algebra to rearrange the terms to solve for f.

RE: Determining a Focal Length

2006-12-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 9:28 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Determining a Focal Length On 12/24/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you need the angle of view more than

Determining a Focal Length

2006-12-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
There is a photo I'd like to make, but the widest lens I have is still too long as it forces me to include an undesirable object in the frame and I don't want to mess around with cloning the object out of the scene. I will need to borrow a wider lens, but I don't know what focal length would

Re: Determining a Focal Length

2006-12-22 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 23/12/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a photo I'd like to make, but the widest lens I have is still too long as it forces me to include an undesirable object in the frame and I don't want to mess around with cloning the object out of the scene. I will need to borrow a

RE: Determining a Focal Length

2006-12-22 Thread J. C. O'Connell
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 3:53 PM To: PDML Subject: Determining a Focal Length There is a photo I'd like to make, but the widest lens I have is still too long as it forces me to include an undesirable object

Re: Determining a Focal Length

2006-12-22 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 23/12/06, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basic trigonometry. God, even the numbers are the easiest possible to calculate (dont even need a calculator for that baby). You need a 90 degree lens horizontally to just cover the object. The way to calculate f.l. is to use same ratios

Re: Determining a Focal Length

2006-12-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Smacking forehead! I've got f-calc on this machine. Thanks for the reminder. Shel [Original Message] From: Digital Image Studio Is there a way to determine the focal length I need based on the subject distance and framing I want using the longer lens. I know how close I

Re: Determining a Focal Length

2006-12-22 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 23/12/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smacking forehead! I've got f-calc on this machine. Thanks for the reminder. I've got another handy one for you: http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/technical/depth_of_field_calc.html -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel

Re: Determining a Focal Length

2006-12-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
And the DA 14/2.8. Paul On Dec 22, 2006, at 6:58 PM, John Francis wrote: On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 12:53:26PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: There is a photo I'd like to make, but the widest lens I have is still too long as it forces me to include an undesirable object in the frame and I

Re: Determining a Focal Length

2006-12-22 Thread John Francis
Oops :-) On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 07:01:13PM -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote: And the DA 14/2.8. Paul On Dec 22, 2006, at 6:58 PM, John Francis wrote: On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 12:53:26PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: There is a photo I'd like to make, but the widest lens I have is still

Re: Determining a Focal Length

2006-12-22 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 12:53:26PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: There is a photo I'd like to make, but the widest lens I have is still too long as it forces me to include an undesirable object in the frame and I don't want to mess around with cloning the object out of the scene. I will need

RE: Determining a Focal Length

2006-12-22 Thread J. C. O'Connell
: Re: Determining a Focal Length And the DA 14/2.8. Paul On Dec 22, 2006, at 6:58 PM, John Francis wrote: On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 12:53:26PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: There is a photo I'd like to make, but the widest lens I have is still too long as it forces me to include an undesirable

RE: Determining a Focal Length

2006-12-22 Thread J. C. O'Connell
of view, because they arent. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Digital Image Studio Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 4:51 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Determining a Focal Length On 23/12/06, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Determining a Focal Length

2006-12-22 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 23/12/06, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nope, what you gave was impossible. 18mm and 15mm are not possible (the lengths you provided) because Pentax APS always needs a lens 2/3 the length of FF 35mm for same angle of view. I dont care what calculator you used, it's wrong if it

Re: Determining a Focal Length

2006-12-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi John, No, the distances aren't precise, but I can get a more accurate idea the next time I drive past the scene. I think I'll put the Lufkin in the Domke on my way out later t'nite. There's also the DA 14/2.8 which, along with the 12-24, seems like the best option. Congrats on the 12-24 ...

RE: Determining a Focal Length

2006-12-22 Thread J. C. O'Connell
you get that short. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 7:52 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Determining a Focal Length Hi John, No, the distances aren't precise, but I can get

Re: Determining a Focal Length

2006-12-22 Thread Bill
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Determining a Focal Length For what it's worth, the subject is about 12-feet long and I have to get about six feet from it. Presuming you want to use the DSLR, you will need either the 10-17 fish-eye or possibly the 12-24 might