That may be so, but the high density areas in a negative coincide with
lighter areas of the print where noise will be easy to see. Noise in high
density areas of trannies will be in dark areas of print where it isn't as
obvious.
regards,
Anthony Farr
-Original Message-
From: Herb
Colour printers (the people not the machinery) have for decades been getting
accurate colour balance from negatives in the absence of reference targets
such as grey cards or colour targets. Quite simply you can't tell a client
to go away just because their negatives lack those things. You do the
they would hold up the actual colored object next to the print. not the same
thing.
Herb
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From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 1:01 PM
Subject: RE: E6 with JOBO
Colour printers (the people
No, that's not the method I had in mind. It's also quite impractical when
the 'object' in question is an immovable landscape, or an architectural
fixture, or perhaps even a dead guy.
Colour casts are seldom purely of one colour. If they commonly were then we
would all be competent colour
- Original Message -
From: Anthony Farr
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] RE: E6 with JOBO
No, that's not the method I had in mind. It's also quite
impractical when
the 'object' in question is an immovable landscape, or an
architectural
fixture, or perhaps even a dead guy.
Herb is speaking
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: John Francis
I'd bet that for the majority of slides shot over the last decade
the prime use is to make a digital scanned image. A digital image
capture device removes two steps from the process (developing and
scanning), not to mention
You may be right... I just ordered D with the 16-45 for around
$1350 after rebate. It will pay for itself after one year in film
and processing savings. I will also shoot more as I don't have to
conserve film.
And as long as you are happy giving up slides
I use slides only
Are there any other smelly chemicals used at this time ?
Formaldehyde is no longer used in film processing.
I expect you are right, but I also have heard that it is easier to
get good quality scans from negative film.
For me personally negatives are hell to scan as you can never know what were
the original colors, the best you can do is something
like autolevels, you can't even calibrate the scanner
- Original Message -
From: David Zaninovic
Subject: Re: E6 with JOBO
I expect you are right, but I also have heard that it is easier to
get good quality scans from negative film.
I can compare the scan to the slide which is priceless, with
negatives you can't do
that.
Perhaps
- Original Message -
From: David Zaninovic
Subject: Re: E6 with JOBO
Are there any other smelly chemicals used at this time ?
Nothing that is any worse than most household cleaning products, both
in odour and environmental threat.
William Robb
I can compare the scan to the slide which is priceless, with
negatives you can't do
that.
Perhaps that is where my methods differ from most.
I look at the work I am outputting and decide if the colour is
acceptable or not.
I don't have so much experience in balancing colors and
- Original Message -
From: David Zaninovic
Subject: Re: E6 with JOBO
I don't have so much experience in balancing colors and correcting
for uncalibrated scanner by hand so it is much easier for me to
start from a good scan with calibrated colors and then do my own
modification on top
properly exposed negatives have less density range than properly exposed
slides. that makes the scanner's dynamic range less critical.
Herb
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From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: E6
not acceptable for critical color accuracy. what you like and what is
accurate are frequently quite different things.
Herb
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From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: E6 with JOBO
Perhaps
- Original Message -
From: Herb Chong
Subject: Re: E6 with JOBO
not acceptable for critical color accuracy. what you like and what
is
accurate are frequently quite different things.
I play numbers boy when I need to, and can provide better by the
numbers colour matching than most
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Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 6:26 PM
Subject: RE: E6 with JOBO
I think you have this backwards, it is cheaper to use a digital
camera than buy and process E6 film after X number of exposures...
JCO
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From: David Zaninovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: E6 with JOBO
- Original Message -
From: David Zaninovic
Subject: E6 with JOBO
I got a wild idea that I could do my own E6 processing as used JOBO
CPE-2 processors with lift are cheap right now
One thing to consider. I have the JOBO CPE-2 with lift (wwhich was, as
you note, quite cheap). Although only doing BW in it so far. One
thing to consider though, try getting a CPP-2 with lift. It has better
(digital) temperature control and also a cold water valve, which both
combine to simpler
- Original Message -
From: David Zaninovic
Subject: Re: E6 with JOBO
You may be right... I just ordered D with the 16-45 for around
$1350 after rebate. It will pay for itself after one year in film
and processing savings. I will also shoot more as I don't have to
conserve film
- Original Message -
From: David Zaninovic
Subject: Re: E6 with JOBO
Forget it, my wife would kill me if the whole house got the
formaldehyde smell, I ordered D with 16-45 instead.
I would love to play with chemicals but I don't have a separate
room to do it and doing
William Robb mused:
- Original Message -
From: David Zaninovic
Subject: Re: E6 with JOBO
You may be right... I just ordered D with the 16-45 for around
$1350 after rebate. It will pay for itself after one year in film
and processing savings. I will also shoot more as I
- Original Message -
From: John Francis
Subject: Re: E6 with JOBO
I'd bet that for the majority of slides shot over the last decade
the
prime use is to make a digital scanned image. A digital image
capture
device removes two steps from the process (developing and
scanning
William Robb mused:
- Original Message -
From: John Francis
Subject: Re: E6 with JOBO
I'd bet that for the majority of slides shot over the last decade
the
prime use is to make a digital scanned image. A digital image
capture
device removes two steps from
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 19:25:40 -0600, William Robb wrote:
I expect you are right, but I also have heard that it is easier to
get good quality scans from negative film.
Hmmm. I suspect that may be based on the type of photos you usually
take. For me, slide films work better for one simple
I got a wild idea that I could do my own E6 processing as used JOBO CPE-2
processors with lift are cheap right now. Is anybody on
the list doing that ? Which chemicals are the best, Kodak or Tetenal ? How
long can unmixed chemicals last after the bottle is
opened with Kodak vs Tetenal ?
I think you have this backwards, it is cheaper to use a digital
camera than buy and process E6 film after X number of exposures...
JCO
-Original Message-
From: David Zaninovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 5:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: E6 with JOBO
- Original Message -
From: David Zaninovic
Subject: E6 with JOBO
I got a wild idea that I could do my own E6 processing as used JOBO
CPE-2 processors with lift are cheap right now. Is anybody on
the list doing that ? Which chemicals are the best, Kodak or
Tetenal ? How long can
After hearing how easy it is to do C41 at home, I would like to query the
list's experience of processing E6. How practical is it? Is there a
developing outfit like the Jobo CPE2 that would be good to do the same
job?
I've seen E6 chemical kits for sale and a friend of mine once bought one
and
--- Chris Stoddart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
list's experience of processing E6. How practical is
it?
Chris,
It's not too hard at home using a film tank and 3
metal containers for the chems. The hardest part for
me was keeping the bath temp up and keeping from
tipping over the metal
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