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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Subject: Re: Face Detection Technology by Fuji
Oh, it's a must have feature. My mistake. I just thought
Ditto. Not knowing how it works adds to the mystery of why it's needed.
Anyone have any thoughts on the matter? I think some other cameras have
this as well.
Shel
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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
Why I would need a camera to detect faces
remains a question mark for me.
On Sep 25, 2006, at 1:16 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Ditto. Not knowing how it works adds to the mystery of why it's
needed.
Anyone have any thoughts on the matter? I think some other cameras
have
this as well.
On the Fuji it allows you to quick-zoom in on the face to check for
So, what's the advantage of that compared to zooming with the lens? What's
different? And so what? By the time you make the shot the facial
expression is different, as might be the focus. What is etc? Is there
more than just expression and focus that you'd want to check?Can you, or
anyone,
It's not needed. But they have the software to implement it somewhere,
it's probably a fast efficient algorithm, so they added it to the camera
to get a bullet point no one else has, rather than design in something
actually useful.
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Ditto. Not knowing how it works adds
On Sep 25, 2006, at 3:27 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
It's not needed. But they have the software to implement it
somewhere,
it's probably a fast efficient algorithm, so they added it to the
camera
to get a bullet point no one else has, rather than design in something
actually useful.
I
Perhaps optimize exposure for the skin, and AF on the eyes?
So you can concentrate on the expression.
Just a guess.
On Monday 25 September 2006 21:10, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
So, what's the advantage of that compared to zooming with the lens? What's
different? And so what? By the time you make
Shel for me its just the dumbing down of photography that been going on for
a while.
Don't know if its good or bad.
Kenneth Waller
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From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Face Detection Technology by Fuji
Ditto. Not knowing how it works adds
How is that any faster/better than using a zoom lens? What are the chances
of focus changing while the photog implements the detection mode, the image
comes up on the screen, the photog checks image, recomposes, makes the
shot? Am I missing something here, and if so, what is it that I'm
On Sep 25, 2006, at 12:19 PM, Bob Shell wrote:
On Sep 25, 2006, at 3:27 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
It's not needed. But they have the software to implement it
somewhere,
it's probably a fast efficient algorithm, so they added it to the
camera
to get a bullet point no one else has, rather
Here's something from 2004 that describes the technology. However, I don't
know if it's the same as what's in the new cameras.
http://tinyurl.com/dze65
Shel
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From: Bob Shell
I think it could be very useful when shooting events
and needing to verify that faces are in
You're mistaking something you can do already with making it automatic.
This seldom works as well as it would manually.
Bob Shell wrote:
On Sep 25, 2006, at 3:27 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
It's not needed. But they have the software to implement it
somewhere,
it's probably a fast
Who's talking about compact cameras? I thought we were talking about
the new Fuji S5 pro DSLR.
Bob
On Sep 25, 2006, at 3:34 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Kind of a laughable idea when you consider that the camera in
question is a pocket-sized compact. I don't go shooting events with
a PS,
Dumbing down is, IMO, not a very good thing. Soon cats will be taking pics
of their humans ... I can imagine how the fur will fly on a cat mail list
Not another pic of a stupid human! sheesh. I wanna see some mouse pics.
Shel
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From: Kenneth Waller
Shel for me its just
On Sep 25, 2006, at 3:32 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
How is that any faster/better than using a zoom lens? What are the
chances
of focus changing while the photog implements the detection mode,
the image
comes up on the screen, the photog checks image, recomposes, makes the
shot? Am I
P. J. Alling wrote:
It's not needed. But they have the software to implement it somewhere,
it's probably a fast efficient algorithm, so they added it to the camera
to get a bullet point no one else has, rather than design in something
actually useful.
MARK!
ann
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
: Monday, September 25, 2006 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: Face Detection Technology by Fuji
How is that any faster/better than using a zoom lens? What are the
chances
of focus changing while the photog implements the detection mode, the
image
comes up on the screen, the photog checks image, recomposes
This is new. You can read a brief description here:
http://www.fujifilmusa.com/finepixs5pro
bob
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From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: Face Detection Technology by Fuji
How is that any faster/better than using a zoom lens? What are the
chances
of focus
Going by info on the link to the 22-bit ADC that Rob posted, it detects
faces in the viewing area then gives preference to them for focus and
exposure. If you could not turn it off it would cause some problems in
that a landscape with someone in the foreground would turn into a
portrait, etc.
So how does that help anything? I still don't get it. If you've made the
shot, you can see it on the LCD screen and know what you got. Where does
this new feature do anything different. I'm still not seeing how it
helps a thing.
How the hell can you reshoot a scene at an event after the fact.
/25/2006 1:09:35 PM
Subject: Re: Face Detection Technology by Fuji
This is new. You can read a brief description here:
http://www.fujifilmusa.com/finepixs5pro
bob
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Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: Face Detection Technology by Fuji
How is that any faster/better than using a zoom lens? What are the
chances
of focus changing while the photog implements the detection mode, the
image
comes up on the screen, the photog
The two areas that I can think of where this could be helpful is both
are for point and shooters. The first is the fairly typical picture
with two people in it where there is really no one in the center.
What commonly happens is the camera user doesn't think twice about the
autofocus - just
on the next K10D firmware upgrade.
Shel
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From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: 9/25/2006 3:08:14 PM
Subject: Re: Face Detection Technology by Fuji
The two areas that I can think of where this could be helpful is both
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From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: 9/25/2006 12:59:57 PM
Subject: Re: Face Detection Technology by Fuji
In a related dumb down item, last night on a local station there was a 5
minute segment on a new HP digital P+S that had
Oh, it's a must have feature. My mistake. I just thought it was a
marketing gimmick. I'd like to see a breast enhancement and penis
enlargement function as well. Or, perhaps, better resolution, less noise,
greater dynamic range, and flashier colors (black is so passe - everybody's
doing it
I've figured out what it's good for. It keeps you from photographing
Lawyers!
After all, good software will easily distinguish a prick from a face
where a lot of people don't seem to be able to when they're looking
for a lawyer.
;-)
Godfrey
On Sep 25, 2006, at 3:08 PM, John Forbes wrote:
On 26/09/06, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Going by info on the link to the 22-bit ADC that Rob posted, it detects
faces in the viewing area then gives preference to them for focus and
exposure. If you could not turn it off it would cause some problems in
that a landscape with someone in
In a related dumb down item, last night on a local station there was a 5
minute segment on a new HP digital P+S that had a slimming filter.
Fortunately a local Photoshop guru explained it fairly well - the camera was
compressing the image @ the center to make the subject, also in the center,
On Sep 25, 2006, at 5:52 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
New Facial Detection Technology (Post capture Face
Zoom allows the photographer to easily and quickly zoom
in and confirm facial detail such as focus and exposure on
the LCD monitor.)
So, can't we all do that with our current digital
What's an event? How much time can this feature save? What does that
translate to in $$?
Shel
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From: Bob Shell
If you're not an event shooter,
Shel, it might be useless to you,
but I think event shooters will be
excited by this. It saves time, and
time is
On Sep 25, 2006, at 9:07 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
What's an event? How much time can this feature save? What does
that
translate to in $$?
Event: wedding, bar mitzvah, office party, special office seminar,
dance, beauty pageant, and the list goes on and on. I have friends
who shoot
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From: Kenneth Waller
Subject: Re: Face Detection Technology by Fuji
In a related dumb down item, last night on a local station there was a
5
minute segment on a new HP digital P+S that had a slimming filter.
Pentax has had that for years..
William Robb
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From: Bob Shell
Subject: Re: Face Detection Technology by Fuji
Event: wedding, bar mitzvah, office party, special office seminar,
dance, beauty pageant, and the list goes on and on. I have friends
who shoot these regularly for good money. If they could push
Ditto. Not knowing how it works adds to the mystery of why it's needed.
Anyone have any thoughts on the matter? I think some other cameras have
this as well.
Nikon had (has?) something similar in their cameras that uses facial
recognition software to fix red eyes. My shop doesn't carry
What's an event? How much time can this feature save? What does that
translate to in $$?
Shel
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Relax, Shel. I think it's just a roll of black tape.
Joe
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