Quoting Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Jostein wrote:
Portraying animals in the wild is one type that comes to mind. It
usually needs both prediction and reflexes.
I'll disagree here. Right place right time (prediction) combined with
anticipating the animal's behavior (prediction)
Thanks, Rob for posting this. It is absolutely priceless!
Regards
Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 3. januar 2006 23:49
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Finally: 2005 PDML Quotations
Sorry this is a couple
On Jan 5, 2006, at 5:59 AM, frank theriault wrote:
On 1/4/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you're getting 30+ keepers on a roll of film, you're not being
critical
enough. Even the greatest photographers in the world don't get
near that
many ...
Maybe he had a good day...
Many of the better photogs shoot several rolls of 35mm per day just for
practice. I know of one who religiously shot three rolls a day just to
keep his eye and reflexes sharp. Another that I heard about was on
vacation for a month and bought about 1000 rolls to use during that period.
Shel
hmmm...
Shooting three rolls a day to keep reflexes sharp seems a bit of a
waste for landscapes...:-)
Jostein
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From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: Finally: 2005 PDML Quotations
There are quite a few other subjects besides landscapes, but even so, the
more you shoot the better you are. Shooting a lot of frames for landscapes
allows you to carefully review each frame and see subtle differences that
you may miss. Landscapes are not static. However, the more static a
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From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Practice keeps your eyes sharp, keeps your mind alert to the
variations of
light and shadow on a subject, keeps you tuned into the background,
or
what's around the periphery of a frame. Practice allows you to see
faster
On 5 Jan 2006 at 7:59, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Many of the better photogs shoot several rolls of 35mm per day just for
practice. I know of one who religiously shot three rolls a day just to
keep his eye and reflexes sharp. Another that I heard about was on
vacation for a month and bought
On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 23:08:06 -, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On 5 Jan 2006 at 7:59, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Many of the better photogs shoot several rolls of 35mm per day just for
practice. I know of one who religiously shot three rolls a day just to
keep his eye and reflexes
Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With all due respect, sir; I beg to differ. Maybe I'm too lazy, but I
find that prediction and preparation are a way more powerful tools
than reflexes. And leaving the camera at home once in while, to
concentrate on the seeing, is good practice too.
Of course, I meant practise.
J
On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 22:17:22 -, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 23:08:06 -, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On 5 Jan 2006 at 7:59, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Many of the better photogs shoot several rolls of 35mm per day
On 1/5/06, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's impressive, 1000 36exp films translates to a shot every 36.5 seconds in
soild 12 hour days for the month.
Perhaps he had motordrive...
cheers,
frank (always happy to help)
g
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
On 5 Jan 2006 at 22:17, John Forbes wrote:
At a conservative $8 per roll for film and dp, that's $8,000 on top of
whatever his holiday cost. Must have been quite a successful
photographer. So, it obviously pays to practice. :-)
On my last trip away I drove just under 16000km over 7
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/5/06, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's impressive, 1000 36exp films translates to a shot every 36.5 seconds
in
soild 12 hour days for the month.
Perhaps he had motordrive...
And a motorized check-writing machine to pay for the film!
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From: Rob Studdert
Subject: Re: Finally: 2005 PDML Quotations
On 5 Jan 2006 at 7:59, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Many of the better photogs shoot several rolls of 35mm per day just for
practice. I know of one who religiously shot three rolls a day just to
keep his
Yes, it's impressive. What I never found out was if he used them all ...
I'll have to ask.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Rob Studdert
Many of the better photogs shoot several rolls of 35mm per day just for
practice. I know of one who religiously shot three rolls a day just to
keep
The film was all Tri-X, I believe. IAC, all conventional BW. The photog
usually processed the film himself, only relying on outside labs or
assistants when absolutely necessary. BTW, this was several years ago.
Regardless, he is a ~very~ successful photographer.
Shel
[Original Message]
On 5 Jan 2006 at 16:09, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
The film was all Tri-X, I believe. IAC, all conventional BW. The photog
usually processed the film himself, only relying on outside labs or
assistants when absolutely necessary. BTW, this was several years ago.
Regardless, he is a ~very~
Sounds like feeding habit rather than maintaining skills gives
new meaning to pro :-D
Otis Wright
Rob Studdert wrote:
On 5 Jan 2006 at 7:59, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Many of the better photogs shoot several rolls of 35mm per day just for
practice. I know of one who religiously
I wonder how many of those were keepers.
According to some here, they all would be, if they wanted to learn.
Kenneth Waller
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From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Finally: 2005 PDML Quotations
- Original Message -
From: Rob Studdert
I wonder how many extra suitcases you'd have to bring for 1000 rolls of
film. Seriously, some photographers do get a huge day rate. I know
Clint Clemens was getting about 30,000 a day several years ago. When
you're hot, you're hot.
Paul
On Jan 5, 2006, at 5:17 PM, John Forbes wrote:
On Thu,
At a conservative $8 per roll for film and dp, that's $8,000 on top
of whatever his holiday cost.
Some of the top notch pros got their film for free from the makers.
Kenneth Waller
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From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Finally: 2005 PDML Quotations
Jostein wrote:
Portraying animals in the wild is one type that comes to mind. It
usually needs both prediction and reflexes.
I'll disagree here. Right place right time (prediction) combined with
anticipating the animal's behavior (prediction) accounts for 99% of my
good bird pictures.
One needn't bring any extra suitcases if the film is purchased at the place
where the photography is taking place.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Paul Stenquist
I wonder how many extra suitcases you'd have to bring for 1000 rolls of
film. Seriously, some photographers do get a huge day
On Jan 4, 2006, at 12:22 PM, Cotty wrote:
I appear far too often with useless vagueries. Thanks!
Only because most of us have been making up crap and signing your
name to it ;)
- Dave
On Jan 4, 2006, at 11:48 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
My pictures are improving all the time but my percentage of
keepers is
about the same. As I improve, I become harder to please. My bad
pictures
are now better than my previous good ones.
- Tom Reese
With my recent scanning project I'm glad
Hi!
Sorry this is a couple of days late. I just got back from a long New
Year's weekend in NC. Long list this year. Probably because I kept
getting suggestions from so many people (Mark!)
So without further ado, and in mostly-chronological order (starting with
the most recent and going back
If you're getting 30+ keepers on a roll of film, you're not being critical
enough. Even the greatest photographers in the world don't get near that
many ...
Shel
[Original Message]
From: David Mann
When I look at my keepers from six years ago I
start wondering what I was on... while
On 1/4/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you're getting 30+ keepers on a roll of film, you're not being critical
enough. Even the greatest photographers in the world don't get near that
many ...
Maybe he had a good day...
-frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri
Thanks Mark,
Your collections are much appreciated.
Last year, it turned out that other people had collected quotes from
2004 as well, so I though I would be good and collect some myself for
2005. But alas, when deleting whole threads based on the title, I
missed all the best parts. :-(
Shooting bulk?
CW
Football if finally over for me...Monster Trucks is next!!!
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From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: Finally: 2005 PDML Quotations
On 1/4/06, Shel Belinkoff
: Finally: 2005 PDML Quotations
If you're getting 30+ keepers on a roll of film, you're not being critical
enough. Even the greatest photographers in the world don't get near that
many ...
Shel
[Original Message]
From: David Mann
When I look at my keepers from six years ago I
start
or just a VERY selective shooter.
I'm happy to get 5-10% myself.
-Adam
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
If you're getting 30+ keepers on a roll of film, you're not being critical
enough. Even the greatest photographers in the world don't get near that
many ...
Shel
[Original Message]
From: David
Wow, I made the list twice.
I'm glad no one kept a dumbest things said all year list. I'd have had a
couple dozen on that one.
Tom Reese
Good reading. Some of it is pure wisdom, and some hilariously funny
statements.
I've got kind of mixed emotions about my quote. Being quoted makes me feel
like a real list member. On the other hand, my statement probably sounded
pretty strange _in_ context. Out of context it sounds like a mad
On 1/3/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry this is a couple of days late. I just got back from a long New
Year's weekend in NC. Long list this year. Probably because I kept
getting suggestions from so many people (Mark!)
So without further ado, and in mostly-chronological order
-Original Message-
From: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On the other hand, my
statement probably sounded pretty strange _in_ context. Out
of context it sounds like a mad mans raving.
There's a context to all this?
--
Cheers,
Bob
Thanks as always for the list, Mark. Notwithstanding the
fact that I was referred to in several quotes, and had a few
of my own, it's still a pretty good list vbg.
back in the days when you were a lawyer, you could have charged $250- for
that 'notwithstanding'!
Bob
On 1/4/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
back in the days when you were a lawyer, you could have charged $250- for
that 'notwithstanding'!
yes, but that was a long long time ago, in a galaxy far far away...
-frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
2006 22:09
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE: Finally: 2005 PDML Quotations
-Original Message-
From: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On the other hand, my
statement probably sounded pretty strange _in_ context. Out
of context it sounds like a mad mans raving
Wow - I made the list - now all i have to do is
see Rome :)
Lots of fun, Mark -
Some of them I remembered and others I had not
seen -
Boy that Robb guy sure had a lot to say! Har!
ann
On 1/4/06, Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Boy that Robb guy sure had a lot to say! Har!
Speaking of which, thanks for saving my life. I owe you (for much
more than that, actually).
cheers,
frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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From: Ann Sanfedele
Subject: Re: Finally: 2005 PDML Quotations
Boy that Robb guy sure had a lot to say! Har!
I just have wise things to say.
William Robb
@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Finally: 2005 PDML Quotations
- Original Message -
From: Ann Sanfedele
Subject: Re: Finally: 2005 PDML Quotations
Boy that Robb guy sure had a lot to say! Har!
I just have wise things to say.
William Robb
Tim Øsleby wrote:
Good reading. Some of it is pure wisdom, and some hilariously funny
statements.
I've got kind of mixed emotions about my quote. Being quoted makes me feel
like a real list member. On the other hand, my statement probably sounded
pretty strange _in_ context. Out of context it
I think you left a syllable out there...
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele Subject: Re:
Finally: 2005 PDML Quotations
Boy that Robb guy sure had a lot to say! Har!
I just have wise things to say.
William Robb
--
When you're worried or in doubt
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Finally: 2005 PDML Quotations
Tim Øsleby wrote:
Good reading. Some of it is pure wisdom, and some hilariously funny
statements.
I've got kind of mixed emotions about my quote. Being quoted makes me
feel
like a real list member. On the other hand, my
Don Sanderson wrote:
You must have, I was called a Fountain of Profundity
the other day and the best I could come up with was
'Point the round thingy at the green thingy'. ;-)
I think that may have been my favourite.
]
Subject: Re: Finally: 2005 PDML Quotations
On 1/4/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
back in the days when you were a lawyer, you could have charged $250- for
that 'notwithstanding'!
yes, but that was a long long time ago, in a galaxy far far away...
-frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois
Maybe you forgot your Clarke quote -
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
Kenneth Waller
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From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Finally: 2005 PDML Quotations
Good reading. Some of it is pure wisdom, and some hilariously funny
frank theriault wrote:
On 1/4/06, Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Boy that Robb guy sure had a lot to say! Har!
Speaking of which, thanks for saving my life. I owe you (for much
more than that, actually).
cheers,
frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri
Sorry this is a couple of days late. I just got back from a long New
Year's weekend in NC. Long list this year. Probably because I kept
getting suggestions from so many people (Mark!)
So without further ado, and in mostly-chronological order (starting with
the most recent and going back to the
-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Finally: 2005 PDML Quotations
Sorry this is a couple of days late. I just got back from a
long New Year's weekend in NC. Long list this year. Probably
because I kept getting suggestions from so many people
(Mark!) So without further ado, and in mostly
Thanks Mark, I enjoy them as usual.
Haven't you collected enough to publish a PDML book of wisdom?
Dario
, 2006 12:12 AM
Subject: RE: Finally: 2005 PDML Quotations
Why can't we have our own quotations page, like Ken Rockwell?
--
Cheers,
Bob
(We're really quite amusing when you crush an entire year's waste into a
single dumpster like that)
On 3/1/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
Sorry this is a couple of days late. I just got back from a long New
Year's weekend in NC. Long list this year. Probably because I kept
getting suggestions from so many people (Mark!)
So without further ado, and in mostly-chronological order
Thanks Mark, that was fun reading.
I envision these on one of those tablecloth's that give you
something to read while you eat your burger! ;-)
Don
Hot Damn,
I made the list.
It's out of context but it's funnier that way, isn't it?
CW
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From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 5:48 PM
Subject: Finally: 2005 PDML Quotations
Sorry this is a couple of days
Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We're really quite amusing when you crush an entire year's waste into a
single dumpster like that.
Well, we're off to a good start for the 2006 list, aren't we?
;-)
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com
On 3 Jan 2006 at 17:48, Mark Roberts wrote:
So without further ado, and in mostly-chronological order (starting with
the most recent and going back to the oldest), here it is:
Har, not one quotable quote from this PDMLer given ~1700 posts, figures :-)
Good reading, there are some clever
Mark - thanks for putting this together.
Its gonna be hard to beat these .
Kenneth Waller
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From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Finally: 2005 PDML Quotations
Sorry this is a couple of days late. I just got back from a long New
Year's weekend in NC
Mark Roberts wrote:
snip
Yes I know I'm evil, but hell, it pays the bills.
- Peter J. Alling
snip
This is the coolest quote attributed to me that I don't remember saying...
--
When you're worried or in doubt,
Run in circles, (scream and shout).
In a message dated 1/3/2006 2:52:27 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
unsubscribe
- Traditional
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Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com
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Great Mark! LOL. Thanks.
We all sound so witty or smart, some witty and smart.
Funny, I don't remember us
In a message dated 1/3/2006 5:39:52 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
snip
Yes I know I'm evil, but hell, it pays the bills.
- Peter J. Alling
snip
This is the coolest quote attributed to me that I don't remember saying...
=
Actually, I remember you saying that.
Thanks Mark, Bob, Shel, Fred and to a lesser extent, Frankg
- Dave Brooks
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com
Good Lord , I made the list.LOL
Or as Blind Pew said:
Sniff, Sniff, Yellow Beard
Dave
MARK!
Thanks much.
On 1/4/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry this is a couple of days late. I just got back from a long New
Year's weekend in NC. Long list this year. Probably because I kept
getting suggestions from so many people (Mark!)
So without further ado, and in mostly-chronological order
I quite enjoyed that. Thanks!
Godfrey
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