Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-21 Thread Anthony Farr
On 21 April 2010 03:20, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: That was maliciously cruel. Can there be benevolent cruelty? regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-21 Thread P. J. Alling
On 4/21/2010 5:12 AM, Anthony Farr wrote: On 21 April 2010 03:20, John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: That was maliciously cruel. Can there be benevolent cruelty? If you're doing if for the victims own good... regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-21 Thread eckinator
2010/4/21 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: That was maliciously cruel. Can there be benevolent cruelty? If you're doing if for the victims own good... ... or even entertainment... some folks pay for that. It's an ache thing - I wouldn't understand. Cheers Ecke -- PDML

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-21 Thread Mark Roberts
Rob Studdert wrote: News today along similar lines: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/04/21/2879025.htm?section=justin Love the (unrelated) headline in the right-hand sidebar: As European airspace reopens, the rush for the first flights out of Australia begins. Don't blame 'em ;-) --

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-21 Thread John Sessoms
From: Mark Roberts Rob Studdert wrote: News today along similar lines: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/04/21/2879025.htm?section=justin Love the (unrelated) headline in the right-hand sidebar: As European airspace reopens, the rush for the first flights out of Australia begins.

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/4/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: As European airspace reopens, the rush for the first flights out of Australia begins. Don't blame 'em ;-) LOL. Thanks. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-21 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Apr 20, 2010, at 21:34 , Rob Studdert wrote: On 21/04/2010, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Miserere wrote: Somebody should've told this lady that with great Photoshop power comes great responsibility. I used that line in class today. Class went very well, incidentally.

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Joseph McAllister Subject: Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors? News today along similar lines: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/04/21/2879025.htm?section=justin Fly's in the face of face recognition. It's criminal! We did half a dozen schools

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread AlunFoto
2010/4/20 Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com: http://photographybykarensonnier.com/karen_003.htm be warned; it isn't pretty. Apparently that niche is large enough for several photographers... :-( http://highglitz.com/gallery/index.html Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/

RE: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread Bob W
Google image search Toddlers and Tiaras and High Glitz I don't think it's all PhotoShop. Looks like they're taking these kids and applying extreme makeup before photographing them and THEN doing extreme PhotoShop makeovers. You know, I'd like to make a living at photography, but I

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20/04/2010, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently that niche is large enough for several photographers... :-( http://highglitz.com/gallery/index.html Eeeuw, most of those poor little darlings don't look at all happy ;-( -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread AlunFoto
2010/4/20 Bob W p...@web-options.com: I don't think it's all PhotoShop. Looks like they're taking these kids and applying extreme makeup before photographing them and THEN doing extreme PhotoShop makeovers. You know, I'd like to make a living at photography, but I just couldn't do that to

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread David Mann
On Apr 20, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Miserere wrote: I will now delete this thread. What has been seen cannot be unseen. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread eckinator
2010/4/20 Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com: http://photographybykarensonnier.com/karen_003.htm be warned; it isn't pretty. if you look closely, there are even reflexes missing in some of the poor kids' eyes, bottom right hand is an extremely bad example. Those images all look like Mattel release

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread AlunFoto
2010/4/20 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com: Now if only we could get Marvel to release plug-ins for guys... The Batman look is easier to achieve by styling. Cheers, Joker -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread Bruce Walker
Doug Brewer wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Tomorrow my Photoshop class is going to be on the topic of portrait retouching. I'd like to show some of the horrific work of Becky Carter but her site no longer exists and archive.org only has the index page

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread Bruce Walker
AlunFoto wrote: 2010/4/20 Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com: http://photographybykarensonnier.com/karen_003.htm be warned; it isn't pretty. Apparently that niche is large enough for several photographers... :-( http://highglitz.com/gallery/index.html Jostein I think that one may be going for

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread Miserere
On 20 April 2010 08:12, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I think that one may be going for irony. Read her bio. I see she's exhibiting at Contact in Toronto in May, so I can see them first-hand if I so desire. Not! ;-) -bmw Don't forget your pitchfork if you do go. Maybe Frank

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread Bruce Walker
Miserere wrote: On 20 April 2010 08:12, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I think that one may be going for irony. Read her bio. I see she's exhibiting at Contact in Toronto in May, so I can see them first-hand if I so desire. Not! ;-) -bmw Don't forget your pitchfork if you do

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread P. J. Alling
On 4/20/2010 2:24 AM, AlunFoto wrote: 2010/4/20 Doug Brewerd...@alphoto.com: http://photographybykarensonnier.com/karen_003.htm be warned; it isn't pretty. Apparently that niche is large enough for several photographers... :-( http://highglitz.com/gallery/index.html Jostein

RE: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bob W Google image search Toddlers and Tiaras and High Glitz I don't think it's all PhotoShop. Looks like they're taking these kids and applying extreme makeup before photographing them and THEN doing extreme PhotoShop makeovers. You know, I'd like to make a living at

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread Miserere
On 20 April 2010 12:09, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Then if they want to be a Barbie Doll, that's fine with me. Different strokes for different folks. I just don't think it's fair to kids. Or cats, for that matter, but that hasn't stopped anyone from humiliating them. I expect

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/4/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: It would make you look like a Ken doll. Would you want that? Ken Rockwell? http://www.kenrockwell.com/about.htm -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread John Sessoms
From: Miserere On 20 April 2010 12:09, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Then if they want to be a Barbie Doll, that's fine with me. Different strokes for different folks. I just don't think it's fair to kids. Or cats, for that matter, but that hasn't stopped anyone from

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread Miserere
On 20 April 2010 12:46, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Miserere Or cats, for that matter, but that hasn't stopped anyone from humiliating them. I expect to soon see LOL Kids popping up on Flickr. Curiosity got the better of me, so I put LOL Kids in the search box for

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread Eactivist
Mark! Marnie :-) In a message dated 4/19/2010 6:09:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, miser...@gmail.com writes: Somebody should've told this lady that with great Photoshop power comes great responsibility. --M. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread Eactivist
I don't know whether to LOL or gag. Marnie aka Doe --- In a message dated 4/20/2010 12:23:50 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, p...@web-options.com writes: I wonder if there's a gap in the market for doing it to middle-aged men. That would take the notion of good taste

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread John Sessoms
From: Cotty On 20/4/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: It would make you look like a Ken doll. Would you want that? Ken Rockwell? http://www.kenrockwell.com/about.htm That was maliciously cruel. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread Cotty
http://www.kenrockwell.com/about.htm On 20/4/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: That was maliciously cruel. ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread ann sanfedele
John Sessoms wrote: From: Cotty On 20/4/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: It would make you look like a Ken doll. Would you want that? Ken Rockwell? http://www.kenrockwell.com/about.htm That was maliciously cruel. not at all - go with it , Mark! ann -- PDML

RE: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread Bob W
Bet you can do both at the same time. I don't know whether to LOL or gag. Marnie aka Doe --- In a message dated 4/20/2010 12:23:50 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, p...@web-options.com writes: I wonder if there's a gap in the market for doing it to

RE: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread Bob W
It would make you look like a Ken doll. Would you want that? Ken Rockwell? http://www.kenrockwell.com/about.htm I was thinking more along the lines of Grayson Perry http://airstripone.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/claire.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Miserere wrote: Somebody should've told this lady that with great Photoshop power comes great responsibility. I used that line in class today. Class went very well, incidentally. Students were appalled by the Becky Carter site (many looking at in horrified fascination for some time - a bit like

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread P. J. Alling
On 4/20/2010 1:20 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Cotty On 20/4/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: It would make you look like a Ken doll. Would you want that? Ken Rockwell? http://www.kenrockwell.com/about.htm That was maliciously cruel. Yes, yes it wax. But amusing none the

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21/04/2010, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Miserere wrote: Somebody should've told this lady that with great Photoshop power comes great responsibility. I used that line in class today. Class went very well, incidentally. Students were appalled by the Becky Carter site (many

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-20 Thread Boris Liberman
Yep, Metro-sexual... (Metro in Russian - subway)... On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:46 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/4/20 Bob W p...@web-options.com: I don't think it's all PhotoShop. Looks like they're taking these kids and applying extreme makeup before photographing them and THEN

Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Tomorrow my Photoshop class is going to be on the topic of portrait retouching. I'd like to show some of the horrific work of Becky Carter but her site no longer exists and archive.org only has the index page http://web.archive.org/web/20080124003151/http://beckycarter.com/ Did anyone happen to

RE: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-19 Thread Bob W
Tomorrow my Photoshop class is going to be on the topic of portrait retouching. I'd like to show some of the horrific work of Becky Carter but her site no longer exists and archive.org only has the index page http://web.archive.org/web/20080124003151/http://beckycarter.com/ Did anyone

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote: Tomorrow my Photoshop class is going to be on the topic of portrait retouching. I'd like to show some of the horrific work of Becky Carter but her site no longer exists and archive.org only has the index page http://web.archive.org/web/20080124003151/http://beckycarter.com/

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-19 Thread P. J. Alling
On 4/19/2010 7:05 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Tomorrow my Photoshop class is going to be on the topic of portrait retouching. I'd like to show some of the horrific work of Becky Carter but her site no longer exists and archive.org only has the index page

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-19 Thread Bruce Dayton
You could install the trial version of Portraiture II plugin and crank it up a bit. http://www.imagenomic.com/ -- Best regards, Bruce Monday, April 19, 2010, 4:05:53 PM, you wrote: MR Tomorrow my Photoshop class is going to be on the topic of portrait MR retouching. I'd like to show some of

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-19 Thread Doug Brewer
Mark Roberts wrote: Tomorrow my Photoshop class is going to be on the topic of portrait retouching. I'd like to show some of the horrific work of Becky Carter but her site no longer exists and archive.org only has the index page http://web.archive.org/web/20080124003151/http://beckycarter.com/

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts wrote: Tomorrow my Photoshop class is going to be on the topic of portrait retouching. I'd like to show some of the horrific work of Becky Carter but her site no longer exists and archive.org only has the index page http://web.archive.org/web/20080124003151/http://beckycarter.com/

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton Subject: Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors? You could install the trial version of Portraiture II plugin and crank it up a bit. I tried doing that once to see if that was what she was doing. It didn't work. I think she was actually dipping

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-19 Thread P. J. Alling
On 4/19/2010 7:54 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Tomorrow my Photoshop class is going to be on the topic of portrait retouching. I'd like to show some of the horrific work of Becky Carter but her site no longer exists and archive.org only has the index page

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-19 Thread Miserere
On 19 April 2010 19:55, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Tomorrow my Photoshop class is going to be on the topic of portrait retouching. I'd like to show some of the horrific work of Becky Carter but her site no longer exists and archive.org only has the index page

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: Mark Roberts Tomorrow my Photoshop class is going to be on the topic of portrait retouching. I'd like to show some of the horrific work of Becky Carter but her site no longer exists and archive.org only has the index page http://web.archive.org/web/20080124003151/http://beckycarter.com/

Re: Archived Becky Carter horrors?

2010-04-19 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:54 -0400, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Tomorrow my Photoshop class is going to be on the topic of portrait retouching. I'd like to show some of the horrific work of Becky Carter but her site no longer exists and archive.org only has the

Re: OT: Web hosting horrors

2007-02-05 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/4/2007 10:32:13 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And now, just to be *slightly* on-topic, here's a new PESO, the latest version of my Live Oak BW conversion: http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm Not quite there yet, but I find it's best to make some

Re: OT: Web hosting horrors

2007-02-05 Thread Boris Liberman
Mark, I cannot be certain if it is of any importance, but now I can successfully access your pages from my home PC. Nice tree by the way. Boris Mark Roberts wrote: OK, after 24-or-so hours of work I have my web site up and running on a new host... mostly. My former host lost connectivity on

Re: OT: Web hosting horrors

2007-02-05 Thread Mark Cassino
Mark Roberts wrote: And now, just to be *slightly* on-topic, here's a new PESO, the latest version of my Live Oak BW conversion: http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm Not quite there yet, but I find it's best to make some changes and then wait a couple of days before looking at it and

Re: OT: Web hosting horrors

2007-02-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Cassino wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: And now, just to be *slightly* on-topic, here's a new PESO, the latest version of my Live Oak BW conversion: http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm Not quite there yet, but I find it's best to make some changes and then wait a couple of days before

OT: Web hosting horrors

2007-02-04 Thread Mark Roberts
OK, after 24-or-so hours of work I have my web site up and running on a new host... mostly. My former host lost connectivity on Monday and I grew increasing suspicious about how they were handling it... until I lost all patience yesterday and signed up with a new hosting company. All that's

Re: OT: Web hosting horrors

2007-02-04 Thread Jack Davis
Looks virtually prehistoric. Like the lighted feeders' against the darker trunk. Texture details always add much interest. Jack --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, after 24-or-so hours of work I have my web site up and running on a new host... mostly. My former host lost

Re: darkroom horrors!

2002-04-10 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Tuesday, April 9, 2002, at 07:18 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: At least you didn't DEVELOP the film in FIXER, as I once did. I've know people who've developed their film in bleach and sepia toner. Neither are adequate replacements for D-76. They also both smell so distinctively bad that I

darkroom horrors!

2002-04-09 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
You wouldn't believe what darkroom error I managed today... I am still banging my head on the wall... I just have to share this funny story to alleviate the anger. I developed 4 negs in my jobo tank, stopped, fixed and proceeded to hypo clear. I hypocleared them well, than 'where is the wash

Re: darkroom horrors!

2002-04-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi, At least you didn't DEVELOP the film in FIXER, as I once did. Frantisek Vlcek wrote: You wouldn't believe what darkroom error I managed today... I was washing it NOT with water but with HYPOCLEARING AGENT!!! -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: darkroom horrors!

2002-04-09 Thread ukasz Kacperczyk
Horror? Come one - it's not like you poured fixer instead of a developer, is it? ukasz - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

Re: darkroom horrors!

2002-04-09 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
Tuesday, April 09, 2002, 6:44:08 PM, ukasz wrote: K Horror? Come one - it's not like you poured fixer instead of a developer, is K it? K ukasz And Shel wrote: SB At least you didn't DEVELOP the film in FIXER, as I once did. Well, I did that actually too... but it's a lot time ago (knock on

Re: Darkroom Horrors

2002-02-28 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Shel Belinkoff wrote: snicker tale of woe snack OK, now that you've heard my take of woe, what could be causing the developer to go bad so quickly? What water are you using? The water company might have been flushing lines or something like that Not enough to cause problems in the

Re: Darkroom Horrors

2002-02-28 Thread Mark Cassino
At 11:00 PM 2/27/02 -0800, you wrote: Yes, it's scary in the dark - strange odors and sounds, creaking floor boards, eerily glowing lights. But that's like the Tunnel of Love compared to the last couple of days trying to process a couple of rolls of film. You did better than me, Shel - on

Re: Darkroom Horrors

2002-02-28 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Peifer, William [OCDUS] wrote: Do you have a rough idea of what the pH of that ID-11 batch is supposed to be? Not off hand. Is it possible that the stuff will support the growth of microbes? I suppose it's possible, but it would be a first for me that I know of. It's conceivable

Re: Darkroom Horrors

2002-02-28 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I can certainly sympathize with you. I almost did the same thing, but caught it before pouring the developer in to the tank. I hope your next experience goes a bit better, Mark. Well, actually a lot better. Mark Cassino wrote: You did better than me, Shel - on Tuesday I shot 4 rolls of

RE: Darkroom Horrors

2002-02-28 Thread Peifer, William [OCDUS]
Shel wrote: Shouldn't this problem have shown itself sooner if the spores were in the bottle from new? If not from new, then this would have had to have been a relatively recent spore or bacteria invasion, right? Hi Shel, Yes, you'd think spores in a new bottle might get activated and start

RE: Darkroom Horrors

2002-02-28 Thread Peifer, William [OCDUS]
Shel wrote: I filled the offending (offensive?) bottle with boiling water and let it sit for a while When the bottle cooled enough I poured out the water - UGH! brown, brown, BROWN! So, it seems that there was something going on inside that particular bottle Glad to hear you got to the root

Re: Kalt #7 Plastic Storage Bottle (Was Re: Darkroom Horrors)

2002-02-28 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Further tests have shown that, even cool water gets discolored and, perhaps, contaminated, when placed in this bottle. I filled it with water at 70-degrees and let it stand a while, and when poured out the water was slightly brown. I compared it to the same tap water I used to fill the bottle.

RE: Kalt #7 Plastic Storage Bottle (Was Re: Darkroom Horrors)

2002-02-28 Thread Peifer, William [OCDUS]
Shel wrote: The bottle is made of #7 plastic Is this a poor choice for darkroom chemicals? Hi Shel, The #7 designation is apparently a recycling catch-all for all other resins Here's what I learned from a State of Indiana website I just found (That just happened to be the first one on the

Re: Darkroom Horrors

2002-02-28 Thread Mark Cassino
I re-shot yesterday and developed the two rolls this morning - with the correct amount of developer this time. So I'm happy to say things have indeed gone better... Cheers - MCC At 06:42 AM 2/28/02 -0800, you wrote: I can certainly sympathize with you. I almost did the same thing, but

Darkroom Horrors

2002-02-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Yes, it's scary in the dark - strange odors and sounds, creaking floor boards, eerily glowing lights. But that's like the Tunnel of Love compared to the last couple of days trying to process a couple of rolls of film. Friday night I mixed a batch of ID-11 in preparation for processing a few

Re: Darkroom Horrors

2002-02-27 Thread David A. Mann
Shel Belinkoff wrote: I grabbed the wrong tank It's enough to drive a man to digital! or at least to some 25yo Springbank I wouldn't be so quick to go digital; I'm having major headaches regarding colour management with my scanner at the moment :( Maybe I ought to start shooting some BW

Re: Horrors!

2002-01-29 Thread Ayash Kanto Mukherjee
A heart attack for me. - Ayash. On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Mike Johnston wrote: Re: Somewhat amusing I guess it would help if I told you what the page was.. http://www.hermes.net.au/bayling/repair.html SACRILEGE!!! And at the very least, he should be wearing safety