Re: Hybrid hard drives, anyone?

2017-05-17 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Sandy Harris wrote: > anotherdrunkensot wrote: > >> More memory is always preferable to swap. > > "Memory is like an orgasm. You can fake it, but it is much better when > you don't have to." > > The quote is

Re: Hybrid hard drives, anyone?

2017-05-17 Thread Sandy Harris
anotherdrunkensot wrote: > More memory is always preferable to swap. "Memory is like an orgasm. You can fake it, but it is much better when you don't have to." The quote is often attributed to Seymour Cray, but I'm not sure that is accurate. -- PDML

Re: Hybrid hard drives, anyone?

2017-04-09 Thread Zos Xavius
Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> > Date: 04-07-2017 9:07 AM (GMT-06:00) > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> > Subject: Re: Hybrid hard drives, anyone? > > You would have to be really starved for RAM if that made more > difference than adding an SSD. My o

Re: Hybrid hard drives, anyone?

2017-04-07 Thread anotherdrunkensot
message From: Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> Date: 04-07-2017 9:07 AM (GMT-06:00) To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> Subject: Re: Hybrid hard drives, anyone? You would have to be really starved for RAM if that made more difference than adding an SSD. My o

Re: Hybrid hard drives, anyone?

2017-04-07 Thread Zos Xavius
You would have to be really starved for RAM if that made more difference than adding an SSD. My old i5 laptop took at least 5 minutes to boot windows 10 into a desktop on a 5400rpm drive. An SSD only takes about 10s. A massive difference. On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 11:11 PM, Bill

Re: Hybrid hard drives, anyone?

2017-04-06 Thread Bill
On 4/6/2017 10:34 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Paul, In my opinion, this is not worth it. If you require SSD in your system, just buy one such drive, as they are relatively inexpensive these days. If you require proper storage - buy proper HDDs. These SSD+HDD combinations were meaningful when

Re: Hybrid hard drives, anyone?

2017-04-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
If you run macOS systems, Apple did a lot of work in the hardware driver for the Fusion hybrid drives. The OS watches what files are being used, written to and read from, and moves files that are being used a lot to the flash media dynamically where files that are only occasionally read or

Re: Hybrid hard drives, anyone?

2017-04-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul in MKE wrote: >It's time to upgrade the hard drive in my computer and I'm looking at a >hybrid - a standard hard drive with a small built-in solid state drive. >Has anyone had any experience with this? Are they really faster/better >than a old-fashioned spinny

Re: Hybrid hard drives, anyone?

2017-04-06 Thread Boris Liberman
Bruce, the SSD as such is a complex piece of software. I mean the controller. Now, you add another layer on top of that controller to handle and manage the combination. I'm not saying it is bad, e.g. your point of physical limitation such as iMac or really thin laptop computers, is very valid.

Re: Hybrid hard drives, anyone?

2017-04-06 Thread Bruce Walker
Boris, they make sense in two ways. They are simple replacement for a hard drive and give you the fast access of an SSD and the large space of a hard drive, all without having to partition your disk space or even to think about where the "fast stuff" is versus where the "slow stuff" is. The speed

Re: Hybrid hard drives, anyone?

2017-04-06 Thread Boris Liberman
Paul, In my opinion, this is not worth it. If you require SSD in your system, just buy one such drive, as they are relatively inexpensive these days. If you require proper storage - buy proper HDDs. These SSD+HDD combinations were meaningful when SSD's were very expensive, but not any longer.

Re: Hybrid hard drives, anyone?

2017-04-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Today the only reason I think I'd get a hybrid drive would be lack of space. If you've got space and the money get the largest SSD you can put the OS, Applications and primary swap space, and a couple of high capacity magnetic drives for data storage. On 4/6/2017 9:50 AM, Paul in MKE wrote:

Re: Hybrid hard drives, anyone?

2017-04-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
My IMac has a fusion drive: a 3 terabyte spiny drive mated to a 125 gig SSD. It works quite well in that current projects are stored on the SSD, so when I return to work, the file loads immediately. It seems Photoshop uses the SSD as a scratch disk as well. My machine is fast to begin with,

Re: Hybrid hard drives, anyone?

2017-04-06 Thread Bruce Walker
My iMac shipped to me with a hybrid drive, and in use it seems about as fast as the previous iMac that I had installed a pure SSD into. On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Paul in MKE wrote: > It's time to upgrade the hard drive in my computer and I'm looking at a > hybrid - a

Re: Hybrid hard drives, anyone?

2017-04-06 Thread Bill
On 4/6/2017 7:50 AM, Paul in MKE wrote: It's time to upgrade the hard drive in my computer and I'm looking at a hybrid - a standard hard drive with a small built-in solid state drive. Has anyone had any experience with this? Are they really faster/better than a old-fashioned spinny drive or is

Hybrid hard drives, anyone?

2017-04-06 Thread Paul in MKE
It's time to upgrade the hard drive in my computer and I'm looking at a hybrid - a standard hard drive with a small built-in solid state drive. Has anyone had any experience with this? Are they really faster/better than a old-fashioned spinny drive or is it just hype? -p -- Being old