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2009-05-20 Thread AlunFoto
As Stenquist said, timing is everything. IMO the real question is when they launch the hype campaign vs. when they do the production run. They may decide the production volume by gauging the success of the hype campaign. Pentax Germany has advertised for alpha users to receive early copies in

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2009-05-20 Thread Anthony Farr
...@gmail.com: - Original Message - From: Joseph McAllister Subject: Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs... And don't use old high voltage flash with this camera, or it will go 'poof'.  When's the last time one of those was made? I never give that any thought. I

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2009-05-20 Thread Graydon
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:56:15PM -0400, JC OConnell scripsit: canon did a full frame 50mm f1.0 that was with the FF registration. If pentax was to do a 30mm DA lens it would still have the same ole 45.5mm FF registration making it a retrofocus. It would not be easy to do as canon's 50mm

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2009-05-20 Thread Graydon
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 08:58:54AM +0200, AlunFoto scripsit: As Stenquist said, timing is everything. IMO the real question is when they launch the hype campaign vs. when they do the production run. They may decide the production volume by gauging the success of the hype campaign. Pentax

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2009-05-20 Thread AlunFoto
You have strong opinions, Graydon. Name a date for when it hits the market, then. :-) Jostein 2009/5/20 Graydon o...@uniserve.com: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 08:58:54AM +0200, AlunFoto scripsit: As Stenquist said, timing is everything. IMO the real question is when they launch the hype campaign

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2009-05-20 Thread Graydon
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 01:53:21PM +0200, AlunFoto scripsit: 2009/5/20 Graydon o...@uniserve.com: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 08:58:54AM +0200, AlunFoto scripsit: As Stenquist said, timing is everything. IMO the real question is when they launch the hype campaign vs. when they do the

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2009-05-20 Thread AlunFoto
2009/5/20 Graydon o...@uniserve.com: It's a standard pattern. A standard is a convenient reference. But believe me. There's nothing better to have opinions about than how to interpret standards. Or indeed patterns. Name a date for when it hits the market, then. :-) No idea. Then I'd say

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2009-05-20 Thread Graydon
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 02:19:52PM +0200, AlunFoto scripsit: 2009/5/20 Graydon o...@uniserve.com: It's a standard pattern. A standard is a convenient reference. But believe me. There's nothing better to have opinions about than how to interpret standards. Or indeed patterns. Ned has one.

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2009-05-20 Thread AlunFoto
2009/5/20 Graydon o...@uniserve.com: IF the release date is in June, production is mostly done and someone, somewhere, is swearing and cursing and trying to finalize the firmware. hehehe! I'll take your word for that one, at least. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/

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2009-05-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Graydon wrote: I don't know what the release date is; I do know that unless the release date is 20 weeks or more from today, Pentax has a)already decided what the release date is and b)already started production. That's about right, in my experience. IF the release date is in June, production

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2009-05-20 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 19, 2009, at 17:38, Joseph McAllister wrote: The PC cover: It does screw off. I use finger nail on each side in the grooves and a little counterclockwise pressure will break it loose from the factory rather firm tightness. It's about 2 or 3 revolutions to become free. Once the

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2009-05-20 Thread Luiz Felipe
...as long as he doesn't take the same road, counting on you as spare... LF (anyone willing to buy my mother-in-law's?? both???) Charles Robinson escreveu: On May 19, 2009, at 14:16, P. J. Alling wrote: mike Nilson wrote: AlunFoto wrote: I got it wrong, Mike. One huge battery it is.

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2009-05-20 Thread Doug Franklin
Charles Robinson wrote: But who cares, really? I want one of them K7s regardless of what the plug looks like or works like. I agree. I'm likely to skip the K20D for the K7, but if I do that I'll wait six months or a year until the K7 price gets more palatable. If I spend that much on the

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2009-05-19 Thread AlunFoto
2009/5/19 Graydon o...@uniserve.com: -10 C isn't much past brisk weather, but point. It is an improvement. The K20D recommended temp. range stops at 0°C / 32°F. Still, I have used both K20D and K10D continuously for 7-8 hours at -5 to -10°C. My eagle shots from january were obtained under such

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2009-05-19 Thread David Savage
On 19/05/2009, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/5/19 Graydon o...@uniserve.com: -10 C isn't much past brisk weather, but point. It is an improvement. The K20D recommended temp. range stops at 0°C / 32°F. Still, I have used both K20D and K10D continuously for 7-8 hours at -5 to -10°C.

RE: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-19 Thread John Whittingham
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis [jo...@panix.com] Sent: 18 May 2009 22:36 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs... On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 02:22:00PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote: http

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2009-05-19 Thread mike wilson
Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com Looks interesting indeed... :-) Nice to see that the sensor plane is marked. I've missed that a lot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

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2009-05-19 Thread paul stenquist
features in the planning, but the IQ produced by my K20 may not be that seriously challenged by the K7. Jack --- On Mon, 5/18/09, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs

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2009-05-19 Thread P. J. Alling
May 2009 22:36 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs... On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 02:22:00PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote: http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com Looks interesting indeed... :-) LF So - what are the perceived strengths

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2009-05-19 Thread Graydon
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 09:50:58AM +0200, AlunFoto scripsit: 2009/5/19 Graydon o...@uniserve.com: -10 C isn't much past brisk weather, but point. It is an improvement. The K20D recommended temp. range stops at 0°C / 32°F. Still, I have used both K20D and K10D continuously for 7-8 hours at

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2009-05-19 Thread Cory Papenfuss
So - what are the perceived strengths weaknesses? Strengths, as I see them: o Metal body shell o 4-channel sensor readout (faster; lower noise) o High-ISO performance (I've only got a K10D ..) o 100% viewfinder (0.92X) o 1/8000 top speed o 5+ fps, 14-frame buffer (40 frame for JPEG) o

RE: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-19 Thread JC OConnell
] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 7:46 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs... ...if the AF is no better, then 5fps frame rate would be academic... Damn, what did we do with high frame rate cameras before the advent

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2009-05-19 Thread mike wilson
AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: I have noticed that the K-7 pictures reveal _two_ battery slots underneath. Somehow I think this change is very significant, if the rumored feature set is correct. Link? The new battery is _huge_. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

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2009-05-19 Thread mike wilson
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis [jo...@panix.com] Sent: 18 May 2009 22:36 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs... On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 02:22:00PM -0300, Luiz Felipe

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2009-05-19 Thread Thibouille
Of coursen no official word but Pentax suffered from the too narrow differences between K20D and K200D. They brought K-m/K2000 which is a nice low-end offering. The K-7 goes more pro than the K10/K20 were and it is obvious that a single body will replace K200/K20. On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:30

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2009-05-19 Thread Margus Männik
What's weird? K20D has the same screw-in (water-and dustproof) sync socket cover. http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/cover.jpg BR, Margus Charles Robinson wrote: On May 18, 2009, at 13:39, Luiz Felipe wrote: Folks say that's the x-sync cover. Can't vouch, but looks so. Weird style..

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2009-05-19 Thread AlunFoto
2009/5/19 Graydon o...@uniserve.com: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 09:50:58AM +0200, AlunFoto scripsit: I have noticed that the K-7 pictures reveal _two_ battery slots underneath. Somehow I think this change is very significant, if the rumored feature set is correct. I don't recall seeing a K-7

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2009-05-19 Thread AlunFoto
I got it wrong, Mike. One huge battery it is. Jostein 2009/5/19 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: I have noticed that the K-7 pictures reveal _two_ battery slots underneath. Somehow I think this change is very significant, if the rumored feature set

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2009-05-19 Thread P. J. Alling
List Subject: Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs... On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 02:22:00PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote: http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com Looks interesting indeed... :-) LF So - what are the perceived strengths weaknesses? Strengths, as I

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2009-05-19 Thread P. J. Alling
I thought it was just push on, made to look like a screw in... Margus Männik wrote: What's weird? K20D has the same screw-in (water-and dustproof) sync socket cover. http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/cover.jpg BR, Margus Charles Robinson wrote: On May 18, 2009, at 13:39, Luiz Felipe

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2009-05-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
I'm 102 msgs behind at the moment, so this may already have been addressed. What you think is the second battery slot is in fact the storage point for the BG-4 contact cover, same as on the K10/K20 base. On May 19, 2009, at 05:49 , Graydon wrote: I have noticed that the K-7 pictures

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2009-05-19 Thread John Francis
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 07:30:08AM -0400, paul stenquist wrote: Will the K-7 be the expensive model, or is simply a new line? If it's clear that this will be the top offering, I'll go for it. Paul That probably depends on how well it sells. Really good sales could permit a follow-on model,

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2009-05-19 Thread Margus Männik
Well, if you push it REALLY hard... :) BRM P. J. Alling wrote: I thought it was just push on, made to look like a screw in... Margus Männik wrote: What's weird? K20D has the same screw-in (water-and dustproof) sync socket cover. http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/cover.jpg BR, Margus

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2009-05-19 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis wrote: If Pentax do move to a new range (with a smaller register distance), I wouldn't be surprised to see auto focus for K-mount lenses only working with SDM. That'll never happen as long as the pancake Limited lenses are big money-makers for Pentax: They're too small for motors to

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2009-05-19 Thread mike wilson
AlunFoto wrote: I got it wrong, Mike. One huge battery it is. Jostein This thing is beginning to tempt me. Lord have mercy on my bank account. And hide the knives. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

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2009-05-19 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 19, 2009, at 11:07, Margus Männik wrote: What's weird? K20D has the same screw-in (water-and dustproof) sync socket cover. http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/cover.jpg I still think it doesn't look like something that is easy to just grab and pull off - like, the ridges look

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2009-05-19 Thread P. J. Alling
mike Nilson wrote: AlunFoto wrote: I got it wrong, Mike. One huge battery it is. Jostein This thing is beginning to tempt me. Lord have mercy on my bank account. And hide the knives. Planning on selling a kidney? -- -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either

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2009-05-19 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 19, 2009, at 14:16, P. J. Alling wrote: mike Nilson wrote: AlunFoto wrote: I got it wrong, Mike. One huge battery it is. Jostein This thing is beginning to tempt me. Lord have mercy on my bank account. And hide the knives. Planning on selling a kidney? If it were legal...

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2009-05-19 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: Planning on selling a kidney? If it were legal... I'd consider it.  Heck, if something goes wrong with my remaining one - that's what the twin brother is for... spare parts! Legal schmegal. eBay, my friend, eBay...

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2009-05-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Charles Robinson Subject: Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs... On May 19, 2009, at 11:07, Margus Männik wrote: What's weird? K20D has the same screw-in (water-and dustproof) sync socket cover. http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso

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2009-05-19 Thread paul stenquist
The K20D synch socket cover is difficult to remove-- hard to grasp. I may have lost mine by now. It's tiny. I'll have to look. Paul On May 19, 2009, at 3:33 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Charles Robinson Subject: Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos

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2009-05-19 Thread paul stenquist
Has a price figure been quoted? You say twice the price of a K20D, so we're looking at $2400 for an APS-C camera? That would be exorbitant in my book. Paul On May 19, 2009, at 1:46 PM, John Francis wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 07:30:08AM -0400, paul stenquist wrote: Will the K-7 be the

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs... Has a price figure been quoted? You say twice the price of a K20D, so we're looking at $2400 for an APS-C camera? That would be exorbitant in my book. Where are you

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2009-05-19 Thread P. J. Alling
frank theriault wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: Planning on selling a kidney? If it were legal... I'd consider it. Heck, if something goes wrong with my remaining one - that's what the twin brother is for... spare parts!

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2009-05-19 Thread mike wilson
P. J. Alling wrote: mike Nilson wrote: AlunFoto wrote: I got it wrong, Mike. One huge battery it is. Jostein This thing is beginning to tempt me. Lord have mercy on my bank account. And hide the knives. Planning on selling a kidney? My wife would be planning on removing one

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2009-05-19 Thread John Francis
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 02:31:11PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: John Francis wrote: If Pentax do move to a new range (with a smaller register distance), I wouldn't be surprised to see auto focus for K-mount lenses only working with SDM. That'll never happen as long as the pancake Limited

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2009-05-19 Thread John Francis
Your book is out of date. I was assumung around $1500 street price at introduction. The K20D is selling for under $700 now. On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 03:52:33PM -0400, paul stenquist wrote: Has a price figure been quoted? You say twice the price of a K20D, so we're looking at $2400 for an

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2009-05-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
The PC cover: It does screw off. I use finger nail on each side in the grooves and a little counterclockwise pressure will break it loose from the factory rather firm tightness. It's about 2 or 3 revolutions to become free. Once the grip is broken it unscrews quite easily with one

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2009-05-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
The K20D manual states: Pg. 151 - The contact of the X-sync socket is not splash or dust resistant. Attach the provided Sync Socket P2 socket cap when not in use. And don't use old high voltage flash with this camera, or it will go 'poof'. When's the last time one of those was made? On

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2009-05-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
Actually, $669.95. But in the list of included items they do not list the X-Sync cover P2. Bait and switch? On May 19, 2009, at 13:48 , William Robb wrote: Has a price figure been quoted? You say twice the price of a K20D, so we're looking at $2400 for an APS-C camera? That would be

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2009-05-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
the SDM motor is very thin, and fits outside of the lens elements, attached to the focusing helicoil. It's the same kind of motor (only much more precise) that turns the CD in a Walkman or a minidisc player. This thick -- ===_^_^_^_^-- sensors to read

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2009-05-19 Thread Miserere
Regarding the K-7 battery: http://www.flickr.com/photos/peter_fang/3543612049/in/set-72157618438434400/ This photo is interesting. The guy had said that the grip could take AA (and/or the proprietary battery...?) but what about the camera? The voltage doesnt' add up so I expect the body will not

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2009-05-19 Thread paul stenquist
is priced about the same as the K20D. Paul On May 19, 2009, at 4:48 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs... Has a price figure been quoted? You say twice the price of a K20D, so we're looking

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2009-05-19 Thread paul stenquist
Launch prices are the only valid comparison. But I think $1500 is too high. The video capability tells me that this is a camera aimed at enthusiasts and fun seekers. I suspect it will be closer to $1000. Paul On May 19, 2009, at 5:15 PM, John Francis wrote: Your book is out of date. I was

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2009-05-19 Thread David Savage
The 5DMkII is a bit more than an enthusiasts camera has HD video. As with live view, video is going to become a standard feature. A lot of people poo poo the video in DSLR's but I really wish the D700 had it. So much so that I briefly toyed with the idea of buying a D90. DS On 20/05/2009, paul

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2009-05-19 Thread paul stenquist
Okay. I stand corrected. But before I buy, I want to make sure that the K30D won't top this camera six months from now. But I'll probably go for it when the price drops one level. Paul On May 19, 2009, at 9:09 PM, David Savage wrote: The 5DMkII is a bit more than an enthusiasts camera has

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2009-05-19 Thread Graydon
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 06:10:07PM +0200, AlunFoto scripsit: 2009/5/19 Graydon o...@uniserve.com: [snip] I don't recall seeing a K-7 picture with a bottom view. _Two_ 1860 mAh batteries seems unlikely in a body that size, though of course that battery spec from RiceHigh could easily be

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2009-05-19 Thread P. J. Alling
There's a picture of the battery and the battery cavity somewhere, looks like you could put two double A batteries in it. No way that will power the camera. The battery selector is for the grip only I'm afraid. Miserere wrote: Regarding the K-7 battery:

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2009-05-19 Thread P. J. Alling
to assume that its intro price is twice as high. In other words, what you're trying to say is that the K7 is priced about the same as the K20D. Paul On May 19, 2009, at 4:48 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks

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2009-05-19 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm not sure that the display is meaningful in a prerelease camera, even one as close to production as this one. Graydon wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 06:10:07PM +0200, AlunFoto scripsit: 2009/5/19 Graydon o...@uniserve.com: [snip] I don't recall seeing a K-7 picture with a

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2009-05-19 Thread paul stenquist
to say is that the K7 is priced about the same as the K20D. Paul On May 19, 2009, at 4:48 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs... Has a price figure been quoted? You say twice the price

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2009-05-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Joseph McAllister Subject: Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs... And don't use old high voltage flash with this camera, or it will go 'poof'. When's the last time one of those was made? I never give that any thought. I suppose I

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2009-05-19 Thread Graydon
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:11:30PM -0400, P. J. Alling scripsit: Graydon wrote: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EO9piAKCkcU/ShBJD8iHMSI/EiY/keeeBh78t1Y/s1600-h/3514739481_96a4d48143.jpg Shows, along with the 1/8000 shutter speed, F 1.0 Think we're in for a lens announcement, too? :) I'm

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2009-05-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
I would think the camera has already gone to production, perhaps as much as a month ago. IIRC, the Pentax announcement stated that the camera would be available in around mid-June. If that's true, I would images that stores worldwide would be getting a limited and pre- ordered stock in the

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2009-05-19 Thread JC OConnell
, May 19, 2009 11:38 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs... On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:11:30PM -0400, P. J. Alling scripsit: Graydon wrote: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EO9piAKCkcU/ShBJD8iHMSI/EiY/keeeBh7 8t1Y/s1600-h

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2009-05-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Hardware is set in stone, firmware may still be in flux right up to the day they start to ship. I used to work for a company where we joked about coding on the loading dock. The sample cameras floating around out there may be release hardware with prerelease firmware. Joseph McAllister

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2009-05-18 Thread Luiz Felipe
http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com Looks interesting indeed... :-) LF -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

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2009-05-18 Thread Thibouille
I didn't link to it because everything isn't confirmed yet but vast majority of this is indeed correct. On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com Looks interesting indeed... :-) LF -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille

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2009-05-18 Thread Luiz Felipe
Thibouille, would you think the x-sync speed would be incorrect?? Just a feeling??? :-) I understand the secrecy is pretty much hard on those under NDAs, and really feel it's been a great time, waiting - not over yet - and searching clues and leaks... and fake pics too. :-) LF (still

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2009-05-18 Thread Thibouille
Well this very subject is still on debate. Some swear it is 1/180 others swear it is 1/250. And all have very good sources lol. Reason why I do not throw such info here without making sure as possible the info is solid. Either way, half a stop is no big deal IMO but 1/250 would certainly be very

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2009-05-18 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 18, 2009, at 12:22, Luiz Felipe wrote: http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com Looks interesting indeed... :-) Does anyone (who is allowed to speak about it) know what that knob is, between the pop-up flash button and the RAW button? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Thibouille
Flash sync terminal :) I do not care but I know a bunch of people do. On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On May 18, 2009, at 12:22, Luiz Felipe wrote: http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com Looks interesting indeed... :-) Does anyone (who is allowed to

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Bob Sullivan
Button is the same style as the 67ii flash sync socket cover. Bob S. On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On May 18, 2009, at 12:22, Luiz Felipe wrote: http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com Looks interesting indeed... :-) Does anyone (who is allowed to

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Adam Maas
If those specs are accurate, Pentax is in the game, big-time. The specs are competitive with just about everything short of a D300 (and close enough to a grip-less D300 to be worth a look). man, if Pentax had only had this when the K20D came out, I'd never have gone back to Nikon. In fact it

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On May 18, 2009, at 12:22, Luiz Felipe wrote: http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com Looks interesting indeed... :-) Does anyone (who is allowed to speak about it) know what that knob is, between the pop-up flash button

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Luiz Felipe
Folks say that's the x-sync cover. Can't vouch, but looks so. LF Charles Robinson escreveu: On May 18, 2009, at 12:22, Luiz Felipe wrote: http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com Looks interesting indeed... :-) Does anyone (who is allowed to speak about it) know what that knob is, between the

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Graydon
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 01:30:44PM -0500, Charles Robinson scripsit: On May 18, 2009, at 12:22, Luiz Felipe wrote: http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com Looks interesting indeed... :-) Does anyone (who is allowed to speak about it) know what that knob is, between the pop-up flash button and the

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Thibouille
Adam, I suppose you understand why I was (and still am) excited when I found out :) The thing I'm not sure but I think it could : AF with Video. That would kick 5DII bottom ;) On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: If those specs are accurate, Pentax is in the game,

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 18, 2009, at 13:39, Luiz Felipe wrote: Folks say that's the x-sync cover. Can't vouch, but looks so. Weird style.. looks like they make it intentionally difficult to grab onto to remove! But.. doesn't really matter. I'll be able to afford one of these in about 3 years. :-(

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Any indication on the retail price? Dan On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On May 18, 2009, at 13:39, Luiz Felipe wrote: Folks say that's the x-sync cover. Can't vouch, but looks so. Weird style.. looks like they make it intentionally difficult to

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread John Francis
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 02:35:59PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: If those specs are accurate, Pentax is in the game, big-time. The specs are competitive with just about everything short of a D300 (and close enough to a grip-less D300 to be worth a look). Agreed. If, as you say, this is anywhere

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Luiz Felipe
Considering the price of the DA 60~250, steep. But don't pass the kit zoom so quickly, it's supposed to be weather-protected too... LF (really interested, even if I don't have plans to buy one so soon) John Francis escreveu: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 02:35:59PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: If those

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Luiz Felipe
Daniel, there is some talk about ~1300 euros with the kit zoom, but could be just vapor. Considering the price of the 60~250, should be steep. LF Daniel J. Matyola escreveu: Any indication on the retail price? Dan On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Thibouille
I'd say 1300-1500 euros with kit lens but 1500 is really a max. Now some considerations: * Pentax (Hoya) has recently increased prices (lenses and accessories) in multiple countries but the price hike tends to diminish a couple weeks later, * Introduction price is always a bit steep, it will go

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread John Francis
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 02:22:00PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote: http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com Looks interesting indeed... :-) LF So - what are the perceived strengths weaknesses? Strengths, as I see them: o Metal body shell o 4-channel sensor readout (faster; lower noise) o High-ISO

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread John Francis
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 04:40:50PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote: Considering the price of the DA 60~250, steep. But don't pass the kit zoom so quickly, it's supposed to be weather-protected too... I rarely use the 18-55 I bought with the K10D, especially since I now have the DA* 16-50. I don't

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Graydon
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:36:53PM -0400, John Francis scripsit: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 02:22:00PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote: http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com Looks interesting indeed... :-) LF So - what are the perceived strengths weaknesses? Strengths, as I see them: o Metal

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread P. J. Alling
Effusive praise from RiceHigh, I never thought I'd see the day Pentax did anything right by his lights... (Now I'm almost as excited as when Pentax introduced the LX, I doubt I can justify the price of this beauty though). Luiz Felipe wrote: http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com Looks interesting

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread P. J. Alling
PC socket cover. Charles Robinson wrote: On May 18, 2009, at 12:22, Luiz Felipe wrote: http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com Looks interesting indeed... :-) Does anyone (who is allowed to speak about it) know what that knob is, between the pop-up flash button and the RAW button? -Charles

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread P. J. Alling
David J Brooks wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On May 18, 2009, at 12:22, Luiz Felipe wrote: http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com Looks interesting indeed... :-) Does anyone (who is allowed to speak about it) know what that knob

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread David Savage
I'd have to see some high ISO long exposure test shots before I'd be tempted. But I agree, on paper this looks like quite a beast. That said, I've sunk so many $'s into Nikon it's not that likely. My next camera will be 20+ MP FF. DS 2009/5/19 Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca: If those specs are

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread John Francis
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:47:50PM -0400, Graydon wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:36:53PM -0400, John Francis scripsit: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 02:22:00PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote: http://www.ricehigh.blogspot.com Looks interesting indeed... :-) LF So - what are the

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Graydon
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 06:53:26PM -0400, John Francis scripsit: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:47:50PM -0400, Graydon wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:36:53PM -0400, John Francis scripsit: [snip] Strengths, as I see them: o Metal body shell Why is this a strength? More

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread paul stenquist
This camera sounds good, although I'm disappointed with the flash synch speed. But if low light autofocus and autofocus speed in general are much improved, it's a major step up. The frame rate is also a big plus. But I may wait to see what the K30D offers. That camera is reportedly due

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Adam Maas
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 06:53:26PM -0400, John Francis scripsit: And I *do* expect close to a 20-year working life out of this. My *ist-D still works just fine after 5.5 years; I expect it to make it at least to 10.  My old

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Graydon
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 07:30:06PM -0400, Adam Maas scripsit: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: [snip] It would be surprising if all the chips involved could make it to 10 years; 20 would be well past surprising and into how on earth? territory.  Running a

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Jack Davis
, 5/18/09, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs... To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 4:18 PM This camera sounds good, although I'm

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread John Francis
: From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs... To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 4:18 PM This camera sounds good, although I'm disappointed with the flash synch speed. But if low light

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Thibouille
In this case, indeed there's no point. On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:40 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: I rarely use the 18-55 I bought with the K10D, especially since I now have the DA* 16-50.  I don't expect to buy the kit zoom if it would add $100 to the package price. --

Re: K-7 - check ricehigh blog, folks... photos and specs...

2009-05-18 Thread Thibouille
K-7 is ike MZ-S, body is metal but it is covered with polycarbonate/rubber so you won't feel the metal touch. More expensive, not as strong, and conducts more heat than the polycarbonate.  It might be a strength if you expect a 20 year working life and want something that won't become brittle

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