Re: Musings about image formats

2013-08-24 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 11:26 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: I've never heard of get it exact in the camera before. I've always heard get it right in camera ... not the same thing. I sure have. There are absolutely no-crop fetishists on the

Re: Musings about image formats

2013-08-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
Cropping was a lot more exacting in the days before zooms. You didn't just zoom in or out to get your cropping right. You had to zoom with your feet. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 12:53 AM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2013-08-23 21:34 Matthew Hunt wrote On Fri, Aug 23,

Re: Musings about image formats

2013-08-24 Thread John
Or change to a prime with an appropriate focal length. We were required to print full frame my first semester in school, just to demonstrate we had not inadvertently composed an image that cropped elements of the scene out of the image frame. On 8/24/2013 1:11 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Re: Musings about image formats

2013-08-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
Yes, that's why Pentax made primes of 85mm, 100mm, 120mm, 135mm,150mm, and 200mm. From 50.mm down they made 40mm, 35mm, 30mm, 28mm, 20mm, and 15mm. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 2:06 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: Or change to a prime with an appropriate focal length. We were

Re: Musings about image formats

2013-08-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
OOps, frogot the 24mm. Bob S. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that's why Pentax made primes of 85mm, 100mm, 120mm, 135mm,150mm, and 200mm. From 50.mm down they made 40mm, 35mm, 30mm, 28mm, 20mm, and 15mm. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013

Re: Musings about image formats

2013-08-24 Thread Stan Halpin
And the 77, 55, 43, and 31mm. On Aug 24, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: OOps, frogot the 24mm. Bob S. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that's why Pentax made primes of 85mm, 100mm, 120mm, 135mm,150mm, and 200mm. From 50.mm down they

Re: Musings about image formats

2013-08-24 Thread Stan Halpin
Actually, I have more problems with zooms than with primes. With primes, I know that I am most likely going to be cropping later and I can deal with that. With zooms, I try to get it just right in the frame. I have trouble convincing myself to back off a bit, sacrifice just a touch of close-up

Re: Musings about image formats

2013-08-24 Thread Boris Liberman
On 8/23/2013 7:42 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Paper can be trimmed, mats and frames can be custom cut. But it is still a nuisance. I would love to have firmware in the camera that would show the viewing area with an 4x5 ratio (or other selectable ratio) partial mask. Many PS cameras have a

Musings about image formats

2013-08-23 Thread Stan Halpin
Rick Wormer recently posted a very nice PESO: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17505433size=lg Comments he has received so far mention the good composition. I totally agree - it is a boffo shot as presented. However, viewing it quickly brought to mind some mild struggles I have been

Re: Musings about image formats

2013-08-23 Thread George Sinos
Hi Stan The problem you present is one of the reasons I don't agree with the get it exact in the camera philosophy. My theory is that a lot of that type of thinking was a result of technology limitations of historic days. There was a time when the only thing most people could make from a large

Re: Musings about image formats

2013-08-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I dont worry about standard formats. I format image proportions suitable to the visual language I'm constructing and lay out book pages (or exhibition framing) to suit. Of course, there are those occasions when having a regular format throughout a particular exhibit or book makes good sense.

Re: Musings about image formats

2013-08-23 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013, Stan Halpin wrote: However, viewing it quickly brought to mind some mild struggles I have been having. The recent workshop I attended yielded several shots I have been motivated to print, and I have started layout of a Blurb book based on that week's shots. The problem I

Re: Musings about image formats

2013-08-23 Thread Darren Addy
Book page formats have (next-to) nothing to do with the aspect ratio of the images put on those pages. White Space Is Your Friend™. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2013, Stan Halpin wrote: However, viewing it quickly brought to mind some mild

Re: Musings about image formats

2013-08-23 Thread Rick Womer
mats several at a time in my favorite sizes. In short, not a problem. Rick   http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 12:42 PM Subject: Musings about image

Re: Musings about image formats

2013-08-23 Thread John
I've never heard of get it exact in the camera before. I've always heard get it right in camera ... not the same thing. I've always interpreted that to mean expose it properly frame it so that you don't chop off heads feet or any other features you might want in your print later. You can

Re: Musings about image formats

2013-08-23 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 11:26 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: I've never heard of get it exact in the camera before. I've always heard get it right in camera ... not the same thing. I sure have. There are absolutely no-crop fetishists on the Internet... and there were in the film days,

Re: Musings about image formats

2013-08-23 Thread steve harley
on 2013-08-23 21:34 Matthew Hunt wrote On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 11:26 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: I've never heard of get it exact in the camera before. I've always heard get it right in camera ... not the same thing. I sure have. There are absolutely no-crop fetishists on the

Re: Musings about image formats

2013-08-23 Thread steve harley
on 2013-08-23 19:01 Rick Womer wrote Stan, Thanks for the compliment on the pic! I get my prints done by Denver Digital Imaging (slideprinter.com), which consistently produces prints that match what's on my screen (they honor color space). I can get 10 x 15, 11 x 16, 12 x 18, 16 x 24...