Re: My super-duper macro setup... that doesn't appear to work as hoped?

2012-07-08 Thread Anthony Farr
On 9 July 2012 03:25, Mark C wrote: > I have never found a good explanation of what is going on when you reverse > mount a lens. After using reverse mounted lenses quite a bit, I can say that > reversing the lens allows you to focus closer. It also seems like the > subject to lens distance does no

Re: My super-duper macro setup... that doesn't appear to work as hoped?

2012-07-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Mark C wrote: > ... I have never found a good explanation of what is going on when you reverse > mount a lens. After using reverse mounted lenses quite a bit, I can say that > reversing the lens allows you to focus closer. It also seems like the > subject to lens d

Re: My super-duper macro setup... that doesn't appear to work as hoped?

2012-07-08 Thread Mark C
Glad that I could help. There are two basic formulas that can help with macro work. You probably know them but if not - the first is that when you put a lens on extension the magnification equals the extension divided by the lens's focal length. So a 100mm lens on 200mm of extension = 2x lifes

Re: My super-duper macro setup... that doesn't appear to work as hoped?

2012-07-07 Thread John Celio
Mark, this is exactly the response I was hoping for. Thank you *very* much. I never would have thought the lens would be the part causing the problem, nor that wider angle lenses would produce greater magnification (though that kinda makes sense now that I think about it). I will try it with my FA

Re: My super-duper macro setup... that doesn't appear to work as hoped?

2012-07-07 Thread Anthony Farr
On 8 July 2012 02:40, Stan Halpin wrote: > I would put the fixed extension tubes on the camera, then the bellows, then > the hellicoid, then the lens. For a moment I had the same thought, but then I remembered that in extreme lens extension, especially for macro work, the first preference is to

Re: My super-duper macro setup... that doesn't appear to work as hoped?

2012-07-07 Thread Mark C
On 7/6/2012 10:52 PM, John Celio wrote: So I have this setup for shooting seriously close-up macro: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/CIUtr5fsiR0rzShfFjE08NMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink That is: Camera / helicoid tube at 49mm / bellows at 137mm (approx)/ 12mm tube / 20mm tube / 36mm t

Re: My super-duper macro setup... that doesn't appear to work as hoped?

2012-07-07 Thread Stan Halpin
John, I can't directly answer your questions, but have a couple of comments . . . I am not sure if there is any logic or some practical reason(s) for your ordering of the components. But if it were me, I would put the fixed extension tubes on the camera, then the bellows, then the hellicoid, th

Re: My super-duper macro setup... that doesn't appear to work as hoped?

2012-07-07 Thread P. J. Alling
When you reverse a lens the focus point is very close to the rear element. With your setup the focus point is somewhere inside the lens if not inside the bellows, (yes I know that's not technically true but the hyperbole expresses the problem), use a longer lens and don't reverse it if you wan

Re: My super-duper macro setup... that doesn't appear to work as hoped?

2012-07-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> 1. Is it possible to have a lens so far away from the sensor plane > that focus can't be achieved? yes. > 2. What's the macro ratio of this setup as it is in the picture? no idea. only way to know for sure is to focus an image and then shoot a fine ruler to calculate it. > 3. Does it make a d

My super-duper macro setup... that doesn't appear to work as hoped?

2012-07-06 Thread John Celio
So I have this setup for shooting seriously close-up macro: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/CIUtr5fsiR0rzShfFjE08NMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink That is: Camera / helicoid tube at 49mm / bellows at 137mm (approx)/ 12mm tube / 20mm tube / 36mm tube / generic reverse mount ring / D-FA 10