Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-04 Thread John Sessoms
From: Tim Bray Well... Interesting to know what the pros consider ?realistic to be?. In particular, I was fairly shocked that they were OK with HDR. -T Your eye can see shadow detail and highlights at the same time, and minimal HDR can reproduce this. The way I read it, they're only "OK wi

Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-04 Thread John Sessoms
It's worth reading if you *are* submitting shots to NatGeo. It tells you what the editors will accept and what they won't. From: Bruce Walker To what end? If I were submitting shots to NatGeo then maybe, but I'm not so I see nothing worth reading there. On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Tim Br

Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-02 Thread Adam Montoya
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Tim Bray wrote: > Worth reading: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/your-shot/manipulation > I have 4 words in response to all of that: Great Pyramids of Giza. -Adam -- http://www.mountainfort.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.ne

Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Dmitry Gromov
Hi! Sorry, I'm a bit late to this discussion... And I'm not in any way professional photographer or even "experienced in art", but that list of requirements surprised me a lot. I fully agree with Tom's comments, echoes my thoughts... especially couple of things: - Hand-tinting requirement to be an

Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Quite an honor, Mark. Your crop is obviously much better. Paul On Jun 1, 2012, at 11:29 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > Mark the both look fine - I dont understand their crop, either, tho... > > way to go! > > ann > > On 6/1/2012 22:44, Mark C wrote: >> On 6/1/2012 2:28 PM, Darren Addy wrote: >>> I

Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Mark the both look fine - I dont understand their crop, either, tho... way to go! ann On 6/1/2012 22:44, Mark C wrote: On 6/1/2012 2:28 PM, Darren Addy wrote: If most of us are honest with ourselves, we'd have to admit that we'd be delighted if an image of ours was "discovered" or requested b

Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Mark C
On 6/1/2012 2:28 PM, Darren Addy wrote: If most of us are honest with ourselves, we'd have to admit that we'd be delighted if an image of ours was "discovered" or requested by National Geographic magazine. You may think it will never happen, but it is happening right now with some of my son-in-la

Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Jeffery Smith
Wasn't Getty refusing images not taken with high end Nikon or high end Canon? That seems more absurd to me. Disqualifying by brand? Sent from my iPad Jeffery L. Smith New Orleans, Louisiana -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSC

Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Well I'm glad to have seen it -- On a wing and a prayer - I hopped right in and submitted my red flamingo funny thing though, I couldnt find the button to log out after I did the my shot thing. Yeah, the admonishments were , perhaps, a bit heavy handed and um not as nicely written as they migh

Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Tom C.
> Not sure why the strong negative reactions on this. It should really > come as no surprise to anyone that different "outlets" have different > standards for what they want or will accept for publication. > > Photojournalistic places will want as much realism as possible and > photographers who sh

Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Bruce Walker
Alright, now *that's* interesting. I admit not going over that list closely to the very bottom, so I missed "HDR: ok". I too am surprised at that, but I guess it's a nod to current fashion. Or perhaps they are using the steak test: HDR is okay as long as it's rare or medium rare. If it's medium to

Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Bruce Walker
Heh. I can't win: when I respond at great length to a question, it's suggested I could have answered in two sentences. When I answer in two sentences ... well now I'm going to have to respond at length. Usually we post an opinion, something newsworthy, a picture, or a pointer to somebody else's op

Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Tim Bray
Well... Interesting to know what the pros consider “realistic to be”. In particular, I was fairly shocked that they were OK with HDR. -T On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > To what end? If I were submitting shots to NatGeo then maybe, but I'm > not so I see nothing worth rea

Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread William Robb
On 01/06/2012 12:01 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: To what end? If I were submitting shots to NatGeo then maybe, but I'm not so I see nothing worth reading there. New PDML Rule: No more submitting anything to the list without vetting it past Bruce first. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Darren Addy
Not sure why the strong negative reactions on this. It should really come as no surprise to anyone that different "outlets" have different standards for what they want or will accept for publication. Photojournalistic places will want as much realism as possible and photographers who shoot for AP

Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Tom C.
> Worth reading: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/your-shot/manipulation Verbal vomit. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Bruce Walker
To what end? If I were submitting shots to NatGeo then maybe, but I'm not so I see nothing worth reading there. On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Tim Bray wrote: > > Worth reading: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/your-shot/manipulation -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net ht

Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Tim Bray
Worth reading: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/your-shot/manipulation -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.