Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-30 Thread mike wilson
Talking of calculators, in a long and convuluted deal I ended up with 10 BNIB, programmable, graphing, colour display, desk calculators. I can't remember the make or model but they are probably Casios. If anyone wants one, they are available for the equivalent of the price of postage. > On 29

Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-29 Thread Rick Womer
Trying to be polite about it… …but it was pretty good. > On Mar 28, 2021, at 2:25 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > Did no one else recognize the horrible pun? -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit th

Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-29 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm using an HP42s, which is so close to the original that I've not used either of my actual physical 42s' for quite some time. It's also available for Windows and Mac, I think it's available for Mac, but I have the Windows version installed on my desktop and my laptop. On 3/29/2021 3:46 PM, H

Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-29 Thread Henk Terhell
I guess you mean Edard Falk. I have used that one as well and it works OK. It is only that I have a nostalgic feeling for the keyboard layout of the HP41 for which I wrote at that time a number of programs on the magnetic cards. Well working HP41's are  still in demand and costly at ebay. Henk

Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-29 Thread lrc
When I got my android one off the first things I looked for was an rpn calculator, I was pleased to see that the one I found was written by my friend Ed. On March 29, 2021 12:46:01 PM PDT, Henk Terhell wrote: >For my work I used slide rules until the period of HP calculators. Now >I'm using

Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-29 Thread Henk Terhell
For my work I used slide rules until the period of HP calculators. Now I'm using an excellent HP41C simulator on my android phone. Henk Op 2021-03-28 om 20:25 schreef Larry Colen: On Mar 28, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Alan C wrote: In my youth I was a Whizz kid with a slide rule. Took over my Dad'

Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-29 Thread John
I recognized it. I chose to ignore it. What's the point? The PDML Quotations List is dead. ... and even if it wasn't, statements obviously contrived with the list in mind should not be eligible. On 3/28/2021 14:25:34, P. J. Alling wrote: Did no one else recognize the horrible pun? On 3/28/2

RE: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-28 Thread jcoyle
Well, Bill, I have to say your woodwork puts mine to intense shame! John in Brisbane -Original Message- > On Mar 27, 2021, at 7:35 PM, Bill wrote: > > Hey Stan, check these out and tell me what you think: > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/51076525698/in/dateposted-publi

Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-28 Thread Ken Waller
Do you have a circular slide rule? I used one for years cause it was easier to carry than the 12 inch one tha a lot of guys wore attached to their belt. -Original Message- >From: Larry Colen >Sent: Mar 28, 2021 2:25 PM >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: OT

Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-28 Thread mike wilson
Didn't want to go near it, in case I got a splinter. Somewhere, I have the circular one I bought in my first year of sixth form. > On 28 March 2021 at 19:25 "P. J. Alling" wrote: > > > Did no one else recognize the horrible pun? > > On 3/28/2021 2:19 PM, Alan C wrote: > > In my youth I was a

Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-28 Thread Bill
On 3/28/2021 2:56 AM, Bulent Celasun wrote: Stan, I think the two mindsets you described serve different purposes. Even the same person can employ either depending on the occasion. In a hurry? An average result is fine? The less precise, casual, on-the-go approach would be fine. Have time? Need

Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-28 Thread Bill
On 3/28/2021 8:27 AM, Stanley Halpin wrote: I didn’t mean to imply that there is a right or wrong answer. Of course there are many ways to approach a task, many mindsets that might come into play. If I were shooting for a client with particular needs, if I were shooting a fast-paced event like

Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I had a circular slide rule for navigational calculations in the aircraft. I previously had several straight ones as a young physics major. Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery * On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 2:36 PM mike wilson wrote: > Didn't

Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-28 Thread Stanley Halpin
Don’t encourage him... > On Mar 28, 2021, at 2:25 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > Did no one else recognize the horrible pun? > > On 3/28/2021 2:19 PM, Alan C wrote: >> In my youth I was a Whizz kid with a slide rule. Took over my Dad's & later >> bought a better one. I taught a couple of generati

Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-28 Thread Larry Colen
> On Mar 28, 2021, at 11:27 AM, Bob Pdml wrote: > > On 28 Mar 2021, at 19:19, Alan C wrote: >> >> In my youth I was a Whizz kid with a slide rule. Took over my Dad's & later >> bought a better one. I taught a couple of generations of Sixth Formers how >> to use them and then along came the

Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-28 Thread Bob Pdml
On 28 Mar 2021, at 19:19, Alan C wrote: > > In my youth I was a Whizz kid with a slide rule. Took over my Dad's & later > bought a better one. I taught a couple of generations of Sixth Formers how to > use them and then along came the Scientific Calculator. End of story. Anyone > want a Slide

Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-28 Thread Larry Colen
> On Mar 28, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Alan C wrote: > > In my youth I was a Whizz kid with a slide rule. Took over my Dad's & later > bought a better one. I taught a couple of generations of Sixth Formers how to > use them and then along came the Scientific Calculator. End of story. Anyone > want

Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-28 Thread P. J. Alling
Did no one else recognize the horrible pun? On 3/28/2021 2:19 PM, Alan C wrote: In my youth I was a Whizz kid with a slide rule. Took over my Dad's & later bought a better one. I taught a couple of generations of Sixth Formers how to use them and then along came the Scientific Calculator. End

Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-28 Thread P. J. Alling
On 3/28/2021 2:12 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Mar 28, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Stanley Halpin wrote: Occasionally I hear of people who still prefer to use a slide rule rather than the calculator on their phone. I would probably be one of those persons if only I had learned how to use the slide rul

Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-28 Thread P. J. Alling
I learned to use a slide rule, and there are things it's actually better for than using even the best calculator. On 3/28/2021 10:27 AM, Stanley Halpin wrote: I didn’t mean to imply that there is a right or wrong answer. Of course there are many ways to approach a task, many mindsets that migh

Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-28 Thread Alan C
In my youth I was a Whizz kid with a slide rule. Took over my Dad's & later bought a better one. I taught a couple of generations of Sixth Formers how to use them and then along came the Scientific Calculator. End of story. Anyone want a Slide Rule? Alan C On 28-Mar-21 08:12 PM, Larry Colen w

Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-28 Thread Larry Colen
> On Mar 28, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Stanley Halpin > wrote: > > > > Occasionally I hear of people who still prefer to use a slide rule rather > than the calculator on their phone. I would probably be one of those persons > if only I had learned how to use the slide rule! Give it a try, using

Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-28 Thread Stanley Halpin
I didn’t mean to imply that there is a right or wrong answer. Of course there are many ways to approach a task, many mindsets that might come into play. If I were shooting for a client with particular needs, if I were shooting a fast-paced event like with motor-sports or a dance competition, or

Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-28 Thread Bulent Celasun
Stan, I think the two mindsets you described serve different purposes. Even the same person can employ either depending on the occasion. In a hurry? An average result is fine? The less precise, casual, on-the-go approach would be fine. Have time? Need some satisfaction? In a meditative mood? The l

Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Wow. Great work! Paul > On Mar 27, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Bill wrote: > > Hey Stan, check these out and tell me what you think: > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/51076525698/in/dateposted-public/ > https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/51076525673/in/dateposted-public/ > https://

Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-27 Thread Stanley Halpin
Beautiful. Just really nicely done. And one of the nice things about wood as opposed to plastic or metal is that it has such a nice warm feel to it, giving tactile as well as visual pleasure. > On Mar 27, 2021, at 7:35 PM, Bill wrote: > > Hey Stan, check these out and tell me what you think: >

Re: OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-27 Thread Bill
Hey Stan, check these out and tell me what you think: https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/51076525698/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/51076525673/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/51008038010/in/dateposted-public/ I made this

OT: (or not OT:) process vs. outcome

2021-03-27 Thread Stanley Halpin
There was a recent brief discussion here between Darren and PJ about the benefits (or not) of AI advances which will, among other things, provide far greater accuracy in camera’s autofocusing systems. The topic got me to thinking about two woodworking classes I took a few decades ago. The first