Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-09 Thread John Sessoms
From: Graydon On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 07:03:36PM -0400, John Sessoms scripsit: From: P. J. Alling On 7/4/2010 6:09 PM, Bob W wrote: What matters is that he should stop interfering in matters that don't concern him. What counted against him was that he was suspected of being a

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-05 Thread David Savage
Yeah Bill. The Yanks eventually wised up and did away with slavery. They realised using illegal aliens was less hassle... (this crap reminds my why I unsubed from the list) On 05/07/2010, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Bill, You have to stop accusing us of slave labor and racial

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-05 Thread P. J. Alling
On 7/4/2010 6:09 PM, Bob W wrote: It's a very real CURRENT issue. The heir-apparent Prince of Wales, Charles Windsor, appears to have run afoul of the Succession Act himself. He's divorced, he's married to a divorcee and she's a [former] Roman Catholic. (Three strikes.) nobody gives a

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-05 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 1:22 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: snip Stop pretending you're all good because your Canadian and we're all bad. snip But it's true, isn't it? That's what we were taught in school, anyway... ;-) But seriously, your argument has some merit, Bob. There

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-05 Thread John Sessoms
From: P. J. Alling On 7/4/2010 6:09 PM, Bob W wrote: What matters is that he should stop interfering in matters that don't concern him. Bob What counted against him was that he was suspected of being a Nazi/German sympathizer, all else was a convenient excuse. That was Edward VIII

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-05 Thread Graydon
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 07:03:36PM -0400, John Sessoms scripsit: From: P. J. Alling On 7/4/2010 6:09 PM, Bob W wrote: What matters is that he should stop interfering in matters that don't concern him. What counted against him was that he was suspected of being a Nazi/German sympathizer,

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-05 Thread P. J. Alling
On 7/5/2010 7:03 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: P. J. Alling On 7/4/2010 6:09 PM, Bob W wrote: What matters is that he should stop interfering in matters that don't concern him. Bob What counted against him was that he was suspected of being a Nazi/German sympathizer, all else was a

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Boris Liberman
On 7/1/2010 7:51 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: to all our listers north of the (US) border. What goes on for Canada Day? (aside from the beer). I'd second that... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Joseph McAllister
of the German House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. Dan On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:20 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: -- From: Daniel J. Matyola Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day I strongly object to giving anyone that kind of power simply because

RE: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Bob W
that person is a distant relative of the German House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. Dan On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:20 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: -- From: Daniel J. Matyola Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day I strongly object

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
-democratic, and creates artificial barriers that divide people who should seek common cause. Dan On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:40 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: -- From: Daniel J. Matyola Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread mike wilson
Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I am not bitching about any system. I am only saying that I am offended by the concept that anyone is superior to another person by reason of birth. If we say that the Queen is superior by reason of birth and has rights that can't be taken away, then we legitimize the

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Graydon
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 02:25:51PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola scripsit: If we say that the Queen is superior by reason of birth and has rights that can't be taken away, No one says any such thing. The Queen is the Queen by right of Parliament, _not_ right of birth. (This is, for instance, why

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
The Queen is the Queen by right of Parliament, _not_ right of birth. Really? And you believe that? They just HAPPENED to pick the daughter of the last King? What an extraordinary coincidence! Dan On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Graydon gray...@marost.ca wrote: On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at

RE: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Bob W
: -- From: Daniel J. Matyola Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day There is a difference: we elected the fools down there in DC. We have only ourselves to blame. We don't pay homage to someone merely because that person is a distant relative of the German

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Cotty
On 4/7/10, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: That is just a short distance from saying that ... that English are superior to Irish Oh well I mean come on !!! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Graydon
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 03:14:23PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola scripsit: The Queen is the Queen by right of Parliament, _not_ right of birth. Really? And you believe that? They just HAPPENED to pick the daughter of the last King? What an extraordinary coincidence! If Parliament says she

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread John Sessoms
From: Daniel J. Matyola I am not bitching about any system. I am only saying that I am offended by the concept that anyone is superior to another person by reason of birth. If we say that the Queen is superior by reason of birth and has rights that can't be taken away, then we legitimize the

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread John Sessoms
It's a very real CURRENT issue. The heir-apparent Prince of Wales, Charles Windsor, appears to have run afoul of the Succession Act himself. He's divorced, he's married to a divorcee and she's a [former] Roman Catholic. (Three strikes.) Just being the first born son of the current monarch

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Joseph McAllister
Me thinks she should turn herself over to some of the NY fashionistas for a make-over! On Jul 4, 2010, at 03:06 , Bob W wrote: She's on her way to New York soon, where I believe she has substantial property holdings. Perhaps you should have a word with her. She is very self-sacrificing.

RE: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Bob W
It's a very real CURRENT issue. The heir-apparent Prince of Wales, Charles Windsor, appears to have run afoul of the Succession Act himself. He's divorced, he's married to a divorcee and she's a [former] Roman Catholic. (Three strikes.) nobody gives a shit about that sort of thing any

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread paul stenquist
On Jul 4, 2010, at 5:30 PM, John Sessoms wrote: It's a very real CURRENT issue. The heir-apparent Prince of Wales, Charles Windsor, appears to have run afoul of the Succession Act himself. He's divorced, he's married to a divorcee and she's a [former] Roman Catholic. (Three strikes.)

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Cotty
On 4/7/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: nobody gave a shit about that. What counted against her was being American. It was 80 years ago. Do you really think people in Britain still have those sort of views? There are probably about 16 people in Britain who care about the religion and

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
No you didn't. You just imported some German aristocrats to take his place. Dan well we don't. We swept all that nonsense away when we cut Charles I's head off in 1649. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Do the English really want Prince Charles for their king? Dan On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:35 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Jul 4, 2010, at 5:30 PM, John Sessoms wrote: It's a very real CURRENT issue. The heir-apparent Prince of Wales, Charles Windsor, appears to have

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread William Robb
-- From: Daniel J. Matyola Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day I am not bitching about any system. I am only saying that I am offended by the concept that anyone is superior to another person by reason of birth. If we say that the Queen

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Consider that royalty knows that at some point they are going to lead their people, and should be spending a lot of time learning how to be a good leader. So, is that what Prince Charles has been doing for all these years? Yes, money buys influence, but it does that in England as easily as in

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread William Robb
-- From: Daniel J. Matyola Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day My ancestors fled an aristocratic monarchy for a place where their descendants could could be free of the class prejudice they faced in Europe. I am proud of that, and I resent any

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
: -- From: Daniel J. Matyola Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day My ancestors fled an aristocratic monarchy for a place where their descendants could could be free of the class prejudice they faced in Europe.  I am proud of that, and I resent any system that claims certain members of society

RE: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Bob W
It doesn't make any difference who we have as king. It could be Shirley Bassey's hairdresser for all it matters. It's just a figurehead position. Besides, if there's to be a monarch at all, what's wrong with Prince Charles? He's a harmless old sod, by and large, and should keep his nose out of

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread paul stenquist
On Jul 4, 2010, at 10:41 PM, Bob W wrote: It doesn't make any difference who we have as king. It could be Shirley Bassey's hairdresser for all it matters. It's just a figurehead position. Besides, if there's to be a monarch at all, what's wrong with Prince Charles? He's a harmless old

RE: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Bob W
You really haven't a clue about English history, have you? The point is, cutting off Charles I's head put an end to the notion of the divine right of kings and established the supremacy of Parliament. When the crown was restored it was to Charles's son, not to some Germans. Several monarchs

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread John Sessoms
From: paul stenquist On Jul 4, 2010, at 5:30 PM, John Sessoms wrote: It's a very real CURRENT issue. The heir-apparent Prince of Wales, Charles Windsor, appears to have run afoul of the Succession Act himself. He's divorced, he's married to a divorcee and she's a [former] Roman Catholic.

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread John Sessoms
From: Daniel J. Matyola Do the English really want Prince Charles for their king? You know, I don't really have any idea. I was just pointing out that their law could be an impediment to him becoming King. I don't know what Parliament's going to do when the time comes. OTOH, I think it's

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bill, You have to stop accusing us of slave labor and racial segregation. Slavery was an economic fact in the cotton farming southern states. Look across the border, do they raise much cotton in Wyoming or North Dakota? Were these states built on 'slave labor'? And my ancestors weren't even

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-03 Thread eckinator
2010/7/3 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com: I don't think we can really and truly call ourselves an independent nation as long as that goes on, and I find it humiliating. Why? What's the intrinsic value of being ruled by A over being ruled by B? Where is the gain in individual liberty,

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-03 Thread David J Brooks
You forgot more beer. Our town has an annual strawberry festival that kicks off July 1, with a BBQ and fireworks, then the downtown is closed for Saturday for street fair, sales etc. Lots of rides for the kids. Pretty well attended, and its free. I'll be biking down later today, look around,

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-02 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: to all our listers north of the (US) border.  What goes on for Canada Day?  (aside from the beer). Thanks, Steve. Lots of barbeques, a few will toast the day with a beer or three, and fireworks in the evening. Pretty

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-02 Thread Evan Hanson
Yes happy belated Canada Day and enjoy the Queen's visit. On Jul 1, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: to all our listers north of the (US) border. What goes on for Canada Day? (aside from the beer). -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-02 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Evan Hanson impossibletot...@earthlink.net wrote: Yes happy belated Canada Day and enjoy the Queen's visit. Thanks. We're having her over for tea on Tuesday. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Why do you Canadians still put up with those silly royals? As the grandson of peasants, the pretension to royalty or nobility really offends me. Dan On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:00 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Evan Hanson

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-02 Thread William Robb
-- From: Daniel J. Matyola Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day Why do you Canadians still put up with those silly royals? As the grandson of peasants, the pretension to royalty or nobility really offends me. Technically, the Queen forms

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
: Daniel J. Matyola Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day Why do you Canadians still put up with those silly royals? As the grandson of peasants, the pretension to royalty or nobility really offends me. Technically, the Queen forms a pivotal part of our government structure, in that her

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-02 Thread William Robb
-- From: Daniel J. Matyola Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day I strongly object to giving anyone that kind of power simply because of their ancestry. Are you really comfortable giving someone like her son that kind of power? It works well

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
: -- From: Daniel J. Matyola Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day I strongly object to giving anyone that kind of power simply because of their ancestry. Are you really comfortable giving someone like her son that kind of power? It works well

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-02 Thread John Francis
that kind of power? Dan On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:41 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: -- From: Daniel J. Matyola Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day Why do you Canadians still put up with those silly royals? As the grandson

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-02 Thread P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day Why do you Canadians still put up with those silly royals? As the grandson of peasants, the pretension to royalty or nobility really offends me. Technically, the Queen forms a pivotal part of our government structure, in that her representative

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-02 Thread eckinator
. Matyola Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day Why do you Canadians still put up with those silly royals? As the grandson of peasants, the pretension to royalty or nobility really offends me. Technically, the Queen forms a pivotal part of our government structure, in that her

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-02 Thread William Robb
-- From: Daniel J. Matyola Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day There is a difference: we elected the fools down there in DC. We have only ourselves to blame. We don't pay homage to someone merely because that person is a distant relative

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-02 Thread paul stenquist
Bill, Bill, Bill. It's not eve 6:00. On Jul 2, 2010, at 5:40 PM, William Robb wrote: -- From: Daniel J. Matyola Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day There is a difference: we elected the fools down there in DC. We have only ourselves

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-02 Thread eckinator
2010/7/2 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: Bill, Bill, Bill. It's not eve 6:00. Never mind. It isn't much of a statement w/o the expletives. *duckrun* Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-02 Thread William Robb
-- From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day Bill, Bill, Bill. It's not eve 6:00. In this instance, I am absolutely dead sober, if that is what you are implying. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-02 Thread paul stenquist
On Jul 2, 2010, at 6:10 PM, William Robb wrote: -- From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day Bill, Bill, Bill. It's not eve 6:00. In this instance, I am absolutely dead sober, if that is what you are implying. And I

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-02 Thread drd1135
Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day -- From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day Bill, Bill, Bill. It's not eve 6:00. In this instance, I am absolutely dead sober, if that is what you are implying. William Robb -- PDML Pentax

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-02 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Why do you Canadians still put up with those silly royals? As the grandson of peasants, the pretension to royalty or nobility really offends me. I am personally offended that our head of state lives in a foreign

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-02 Thread William Robb
-- From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day And I can't even spell even. I was dead sober as well, but I'm hoping to change that soon. I figured you meant just before 6:00. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-01 Thread Steven Desjardins
to all our listers north of the (US) border. What goes on for Canada Day? (aside from the beer). -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-01 Thread William Robb
-- From: Steven Desjardins Subject: OT: Happy Canada Day to all our listers north of the (US) border. What goes on for Canada Day? (aside from the beer). Nothing. Canada Day is all about the beer. There are probably fireworks later

Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-01 Thread eckinator
2010/7/1 William Robb war...@gmail.com: Nothing. Canada Day is all about the beer. There are probably fireworks later. paid for by breweries then, eh? cheers ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,