Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-23 Thread David Savage
Get out of the small states (NSW, Tas & Vic) everything is a long way from anything. On 24 February 2012 00:33, Stan Halpin wrote: > A travel/adventure writer, Bill Bryson, has done a series of books including > hitchhiking in Europe, through-hiking the Appalachian Trail, and traveling > throu

Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-23 Thread Stan Halpin
A travel/adventure writer, Bill Bryson, has done a series of books including hitchhiking in Europe, through-hiking the Appalachian Trail, and traveling through Australia. I thought the Australia book was a good read. I particularly enjoyed his description of Canberra, and having read it I was sp

Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-23 Thread Darren Addy
Our tour also included Canberra and I would NOT recommend it, particularly if time is precious. I would have MUCH rather had another two days in Melbourne or roving around Sydney than that long slog. Being a fairly recently manufactured capital city, Canberra is far too modern to be interesting (fo

Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-23 Thread David Mann
On Feb 23, 2012, at 8:24 PM, Brian Walters wrote: > Quoting Bob W : > >> Australia has a collection of unpleasant insects and snakes whose sole >> purpose in life is to kill you, so you probably want to watch out for them. > > I was wondering when someone was going to mention them, but if John s

RE: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Bob W : [...]\ Australia has a collection of unpleasant insects and snakes whose sole purpose in life is to kill you, so you probably want to watch out for them. I was wondering when someone was going to mention them, but if John stays away from Canberra he should be OK. Oh, you

RE: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread Bob W
[...] > > Thanks Bob, that's a lot of stuff I never would have thought of > (especially the "rule of 3"). Regarding clothes, do you just have to > keep an eye out for a laundromat every few days, or are there some > tricks to cleaning things along the way that might be helpful? Do the shower sto

Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread Tim Bray
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 8:32 PM, John Celio wrote: > Say, is it worth swinging through Canberra at all? I know it's the > capital, but the few people I've asked say it's extremely boring. I’d say yes. The big National Art Museum has some fabulous stuff, both Northern Hemisphere (maybe my fave Ja

Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread David Mann
On Feb 23, 2012, at 5:32 PM, John Celio wrote: > P.S.: I hear Australia is a better place for beer & wine than liquor, > so I may have to pass on the gin. ;) Make sure you study up on the correct lingo for the areas you'll be visiting :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_in_Australia#Sizes Dave

Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread John Celio
Sorry I haven't have a chance to reply sooner. Thanks to everyone who has commented so far. Lots of good info; I'm making a list of everything I might be able to use for preparing and while I'm there. Brian Walters wrote: > May is a good time to visit Victoria and New South Wales.  The weather > i

Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread David Parsons
It's a bit of a hike by bike, but the Blue Mountains and the Three Sisters area is very scenic and worth the trip. We took a bus trip and it was at least an hour each way (outside Sydney). I couldn't tell you what that'd equate to biking. On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:46 AM, John Celio wrote: > I

Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread Tim Bray
I have visited Melbourne frequently and driven around Victoria a lot and NSW a bit. - You can easily spend a day just poking around Melbourne's Victoria Market - Get to the beach! Melbourne's aren't that great, but Victoria's got lots. If you can get down to the bottom right corner of Oz, 90 Mile

Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
Speaking about the Apostles... Here are some pictures from the Great Ocean Road 190 km west of Melbourne. https://picasaweb.google.com/115638976374047590388/GreatOceanRoad# Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Darren Addy wrote: > I'm not from Australia, but I got to visit the same a

Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread Darren Addy
I'm not from Australia, but I got to visit the same area in 2002 (in May). I was with my daughter and part of a bus tour, so didn't have the freedom to go where we wanted, but got away for some fun. A long drive west of Melbourne is the Twelve Apostles, which was one of the scenery highlights of th

RE: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Watch out for those dingos. Cheers, frank :-) "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: John Celio Sent: February 22, 2012 2/22/12 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: What to see in southeastern

Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-21 Thread David Mann
On Feb 22, 2012, at 6:46 PM, John Celio wrote: > I'm going to be in Australia this coming May for work, and I'm taking > some time after that's done to do some traveling. The work stuff is in > Melbourne, and then I'll have lots of time on my own to do whatever I > want until my flight home takes

Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-21 Thread Brian Walters
G'day John May is a good time to visit Victoria and New South Wales. The weather is generally excellent for travelling. Temperatures would be in the high teens- low 20s (Celsius) in lowland/coastal areas - a bit cooler if you get into the alpine areas but it wont be freezing. May is also

OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-21 Thread John Celio
I know there are a few Aussies here, so I hope you don't mind if I pick your brains for a moment. I'm going to be in Australia this coming May for work, and I'm taking some time after that's done to do some traveling. The work stuff is in Melbourne, and then I'll have lots of time on my own to do