On 6/1/2010 2:16 PM, steve harley wrote:
On 2010-06-01 08:40 , P. J. Alling wrote:
On 6/1/2010 5:54 AM, steve harley wrote:
that stereotype was mostly generated by Apple marketing -- playing to
people's insecurities about whatever computer they were using
I guess it worked, when I more or
On Jun 1, 2010, at 2:21 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Apple has been playing on MS's turf all along without making major inroads
into their core business.
Diversity has its benefits:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/27/technology/27apple.html
On 6/1/2010 1:49 PM, William Robb wrote:
On
On 01/06/2010 12:42 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
Diversity has its benefits:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/27/technology/27apple.html
The 150,000,000 that Microsoft gave them probably didn't hurt too much
either.
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On Jun 1, 2010, at 2:56 PM, William Robb wrote:
On 01/06/2010 12:42 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
Diversity has its benefits:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/27/technology/27apple.html
The 150,000,000 that Microsoft gave them probably didn't hurt too much either.
For a company valued
By market cap, but that only measures what the circulatiing stock is
worth, not how big a company actually is. A bad trading day and
Microsoft could be back on top, a bad trading week and Apple could lose
half it's value, (the same is true for Microsoft, but that's beside the
point). How
On 01/06/2010 1:03 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
For a company valued at 222 billion, that's a drop in the bucket.
When the bailout happened, Apple was worth somewhat less than a drop in
a bucket.
They had pretty much been written off for dead.
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On 2010-06-01 07:27 , William Robb wrote:
On 01/06/2010 1:59 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote:
I reiterate: Adobe had 1.5 years advance notice. Apple made available
lists of software that would break. Adobe was at the top of the alpha
list. Adobe, in couched terms, basically said their software
On 2010-06-01 12:33 , William Robb wrote:
On 01/06/2010 12:19 PM, steve harley wrote:
On 2010-06-01 11:49 , William Robb wrote:
On 01/06/2010 11:24 AM, steve harley wrote:
On 2010-06-01 08:46 , P. J. Alling wrote:
Google is a competitor with Microsoft, they both want the same thing,
TWD,
On 2010-06-01 12:39 , P. J. Alling wrote:
Google want's to turn the Browser into an OS replacement.
Microsoft owns the Desktop OS market. You think potential monopolists
have changed since J.D. Rockefeller and Standard Oil?
i've been a desktop developer for most of my career, but the future is
On 2010-06-01 14:14 , William Robb wrote:
On 01/06/2010 1:03 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
For a company valued at 222 billion, that's a drop in the bucket.
When the bailout happened, Apple was worth somewhat less than a drop in
a bucket.
They had pretty much been written off for dead.
it
On 01/06/2010 2:37 PM, steve harley wrote:
.. there's not enough clear info in that blog post to support
any conclusion
Other than my friend's tongue in cheek assessment of Mac users. :-)
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On Jun 1, 2010, at 7:13 PM, William Robb wrote:
On 01/06/2010 2:37 PM, steve harley wrote:
.. there's not enough clear info in that blog post to support
any conclusion
Other than my friend's tongue in cheek assessment of Mac users. :-)
Sounds like he's a bit insecure. A pity that.
On 01/06/2010 6:31 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
Sounds like he's a bit insecure. A pity that.
He's a millionaire investment banker who retired at the age of 50. His
last investment account was something like 35 billion dollars that he
was working with the CIBC. He's a very secure
I'll speak tio what I know, i.e., my personal preferences. I have a
MacBook and a Dell laptop. The Mac is a nice computer but I'm not
particularly attached to it. I also use my Blackberry/iPod Touch to
access the Internet for email, weather, etc. since they are faster
than the computer unless I
On Jun 1, 2010, at 8:45 PM, William Robb wrote:
On 01/06/2010 6:31 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
Sounds like he's a bit insecure. A pity that.
He's a millionaire investment banker who retired at the age of 50. His last
investment account was something like 35 billion dollars that he
From: Rob Studdert
On 01/06/2010, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
citation please, or it's balderdash; best i can find is a 2002 study that
says Mac users (then, at least) were richer and better educated
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1040-943519.html
But gullible, they don't actually
On 01/06/2010 7:20 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
On Jun 1, 2010, at 8:45 PM, William Robb wrote:
On 01/06/2010 6:31 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
Sounds like he's a bit insecure. A pity that.
He's a millionaire investment banker who retired at the age of 50. His last
investment account was
On Jun 1, 2010, at 11:02 PM, William Robb wrote:
On 01/06/2010 7:20 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
On Jun 1, 2010, at 8:45 PM, William Robb wrote:
On 01/06/2010 6:31 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
Sounds like he's a bit insecure. A pity that.
He's a millionaire investment banker who
On 01/06/2010 9:01 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: Rob Studdert
On 01/06/2010, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
citation please, or it's balderdash; best i can find is a 2002
study that
says Mac users (then, at least) were richer and better educated
On 01/06/2010 9:10 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
--
If you were secure enough to not give a damn about what I think, you wouldn't
have posted such a nasty remark. But you're a child. I know that, so I tolerate
you. In fact, I find you amusing.
There is a difference between being secure and
On Jun 1, 2010, at 11:19 PM, William Robb wrote:
On 01/06/2010 9:10 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
--
If you were secure enough to not give a damn about what I think, you
wouldn't have posted such a nasty remark. But you're a child. I know that,
so I tolerate you. In fact, I find you
On 01/06/2010 9:28 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
I hope to take you up on that.
I have no real need to change. I haven't had an antagonistic relationship with
anyone here, other than you, and -- at times -- Godders. However I would be
happy to have the opportunity to abandon our history of
On Jun 1, 2010, at 11:59 PM, William Robb wrote:
On 01/06/2010 9:28 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
I hope to take you up on that.
I have no real need to change. I haven't had an antagonistic relationship
with anyone here, other than you, and -- at times -- Godders. However I
would be happy
Waaatch it!
Tom C.
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:13 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
On 01/06/2010 9:01 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: Rob Studdert
On 01/06/2010, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
citation please, or it's balderdash; best i can find is a 2002
study that
says
I know there's a Mark! in here somewhere but I'm afraid to pick it out.
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:01 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
From: Rob Studdert
On 01/06/2010, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
citation please, or it's balderdash; best i can find is a 2002 study
Damn I guess I don't count. :-)
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:28 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
On Jun 1, 2010, at 11:19 PM, William Robb wrote:
On 01/06/2010 9:10 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
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If you were secure enough to not give a damn about what I think, you
wouldn't
On 6/1/2010 11:13 PM, William Robb wrote:
On 01/06/2010 9:01 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: Rob Studdert
On 01/06/2010, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
citation please, or it's balderdash; best i can find is a 2002
study that
says Mac users (then, at least) were richer and better
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Subject: Re: OT - Abobe Woes
Too bad you kids weren't around when installing PageMaker took 6 800k
floppies
Brian Walters wrote:
G'day all
I've been a bit quiet lately because I'm on the road and in lurk mode.
However most of the places I've stayed have either free or cheap WiFi so
I've been able to get online more frequently than I thought I would.
Anyway...
I came across this post on Paul
On 31/05/2010, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
BTW, Paul Butzi is the brains behind SoFoBoMo which gets underway
officially tomorrow.
http://www.sofobomo.org/HomePage
Take a look. I had fun with it in 2009, although I'm still trying to
finalise a project for this year.
Good
On May 31, 2010, at 11:49 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
A absolutely love the suggestion in the most recent reply on his blog:
Uninstall both apps and do a complete reinstall. And then repair privileges.
And if (when) that doesn't work buy a new version of the software.
We're almost getting to
Sooo...
The guy upgraded his OS, and an app stops working.
snigger
Then, what happens in Windows world is that Microsoft gets the blame
for issuing a faulty upgrade.
Interesting that the feline thingie from Apple is so totally off the
hook. /snigger
However OS upgrades and Adobe don't go well
On May 31, 2010, at 11:49 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
A absolutely love the suggestion in the most recent reply on his blog:
Uninstall both apps and do a complete reinstall. And then repair privileges.
And if (when) that doesn't work buy a new version of the software.
IIRC, the timeline for
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 9:28 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
On May 31, 2010, at 11:49 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
We're almost getting to the point of completely reinstalling a newly
upgraded machine because of our Photoshop licensing problem.
It comes down to a silly mistake we made,
On 31/05/2010 7:53 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
Different issue actually, Adobe's VERY restrictive on licensing,
upgrades have to be the same type of license as the previous one.
For example, I've got PS CS3 Extended. I don't use the extra features
of Extended over Standard, but due to licensing
Brian Walters wrote:
I came across this post on Paul Butzi's blog. It gave me a bit of a
chuckle.
http://photomusings.wordpress.com/2010/05/29/more-adobe-nightmares/
Thanks for that, Brian. I got much more then a chuckle from it; more of
a painful side-splitting effect. :)
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On 5/31/10, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
Interesting. I just tried updating from CS Extended to CS5, and was able
to reach the checkout.
Yeah. Go ahead and buy it. Sucker.
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On 5/30/10, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
I came across this post on Paul Butzi's blog. It gave me a bit of a
chuckle.
http://photomusings.wordpress.com/2010/05/29/more-adobe-nightmares/
and they say Dante was inventive in his description of Hell.
I was miffed the other day
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 12:29:17PM -0400, Scott Loveless wrote:
On 5/30/10, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
I came across this post on Paul Butzi's blog. It gave me a bit of a
chuckle.
http://photomusings.wordpress.com/2010/05/29/more-adobe-nightmares/
and they say
On 2010-05-30 18:53 , William Robb wrote:
It couldn't possibly be a problem with his vaunted Mac being unable to
install a piece of software, so it must be Adobe's fault.
i can't vouch for the dude on the blog (are those raspberry seedlings in
the grass a metaphor for software packages that
On 5/31/2010 2:06 PM, steve harley wrote:
On 2010-05-30 18:53 , William Robb wrote:
It couldn't possibly be a problem with his vaunted Mac being unable to
install a piece of software, so it must be Adobe's fault.
i can't vouch for the dude on the blog (are those raspberry seedlings
in the
From: Brian Walters
G'day all
I've been a bit quiet lately because I'm on the road and in lurk mode.
However most of the places I've stayed have either free or cheap WiFi so
I've been able to get online more frequently than I thought I would.
Anyway...
I came across this post on Paul Butzi's
From: William Robb
On 31/05/2010 7:53 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
Different issue actually, Adobe's VERY restrictive on licensing,
upgrades have to be the same type of license as the previous one.
For example, I've got PS CS3 Extended. I don't use the extra features
of Extended over Standard,
From: steve harley
On 2010-05-30 18:53 , William Robb wrote:
It couldn't possibly be a problem with his vaunted Mac being unable to
install a piece of software, so it must be Adobe's fault.
i can't vouch for the dude on the blog (are those raspberry seedlings in
the grass a metaphor for
On 01/06/2010, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
citation please, or it's balderdash; best i can find is a 2002 study that
says Mac users (then, at least) were richer and better educated
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1040-943519.html
But gullible, they don't actually make owners creative.
On 2010-05-31 15:37 , John Sessoms wrote:
Does it really matter?
Seventy-five percent of statistics on the internet are made up on the
spot anyway.
the vast majority of statistics-fabricators think it matters
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G'day all
I've been a bit quiet lately because I'm on the road and in lurk mode.
However most of the places I've stayed have either free or cheap WiFi so
I've been able to get online more frequently than I thought I would.
Anyway...
I came across this post on Paul Butzi's blog. It gave me a
I came across this post on Paul Butzi's blog. It gave me a bit of a
chuckle.
http://photomusings.wordpress.com/2010/05/29/more-adobe-nightmares/
and they say Dante was inventive in his description of Hell.
B
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Brian Walters wrote:
G'day all
I've been a bit quiet lately because I'm on the road and in lurk mode.
However most of the places I've stayed have either free or cheap WiFi so
I've been able to get online more frequently than I thought I would.
Anyway...
I came across this post on Paul Butzi's
On 5/30/2010 6:40 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
G'day all
I've been a bit quiet lately because I'm on the road and in lurk mode.
However most of the places I've stayed have either free or cheap WiFi so
I've been able to get online more frequently than I thought I would.
Anyway...
I came across
On 30/05/2010 4:40 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
G'day all
I've been a bit quiet lately because I'm on the road and in lurk mode.
However most of the places I've stayed have either free or cheap WiFi so
I've been able to get online more frequently than I thought I would.
Anyway...
I came across
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 5:53 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
Typical Apple dink.
It couldn't possibly be a problem with his vaunted Mac being unable to
install a piece of software, so it must be Adobe's fault.
My investment banker friend from Toronto was in town last week. He decided
On 30/05/2010 8:21 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Apple didn't write or test the Adobe installer script, William. Before
you call people names, you should engage your brain.
Perhaps they should have before they released their buggy OS.
Perhaps you should engage your brain before you write
That's so stupid even for you that writng a response answering it is a
waste of time. I guess you can't engage your brain if you don't have
one.
Sometime you act like such a bigoted jackass.
On Sunday, May 30, 2010, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
On 30/05/2010 8:21 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi
On 5/30/2010 10:50 PM, William Robb wrote:
On 30/05/2010 8:21 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Apple didn't write or test the Adobe installer script, William. Before
you call people names, you should engage your brain.
Perhaps they should have before they released their buggy OS.
Perhaps you
On 31 May 2010 12:21, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 5:53 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
Typical Apple dink.
It couldn't possibly be a problem with his vaunted Mac being unable to
install a piece of software, so it must be Adobe's fault.
My
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