Re: OT - An interesting fake?

2004-09-24 Thread Juan Buhler
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:19:58 -0400, Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What could possibly be lower on the food chain than a FED? Depends on how you see it. I find Feds (and Zorkis, Kievs, etc) to be fascinating examples of how camera design will evolve without market forces and

Re: OT - An interesting fake?

2004-09-24 Thread pnstenquist
I have a FED that is nearly identical to my Leica iiif, and it seems to function almost as well. I think the shutter is a tiny bit noisier, but it may just be underlubricated. Other than that, it's a smooth operating, nicely made camera. The FED came with an Industar 50/3.5, which is a dead

Re: OT - An interesting fake?

2004-09-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I've used some of these fakes ... much prefer to call them copies or replicas ... as well as some Jupiter lenses, They're OK ... the Jupiter lenses are actually better than some of the older Leica glass. Once again, we have seen negative comments from people who've probably not used the items in

Re: OT - An interesting fake?

2004-09-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Caveman Subject: Re: OT - An interesting fake? Shel Belinkoff wrote: Theory may be fine, but practical experience is paramount. Cut the crap, Shel. This sounds sooo Rubensteinian. Theory comes from practice too. In theory, bumblebees cannot fly

Re: OT - An interesting fake?

2004-09-24 Thread Caveman
Which theory is that, Wheatfield ? William Robb wrote: In theory, bumblebees cannot fly.

Re: OT - An interesting fake?

2004-09-24 Thread Peter J. Alling
mike wilson wrote: Hi, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I don't see it as unfair at all. See my most recent post. I think JCO is arguing on one level, others on a different level. Theory may be fine, but practical experience is paramount. The nub of the matter, indeed. But to me it went like this:

Re: OT - An interesting fake?

2004-09-24 Thread Peter J. Alling
Based on 19th century Victorian physics a honey bee cannot fly, it does anyway so the theory had to be re-evaluated. We now build flying robots based on the new theory. Wheatfield is just a bit behind. Caveman wrote: Which theory is that, Wheatfield ? William Robb wrote: In theory, bumblebees

Re: OT - An interesting fake?

2004-09-24 Thread Graywolf
more now than they did when they were first used. GRIN! -- William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Caveman Subject: Re: OT - An interesting fake? Shel Belinkoff wrote: Theory may be fine, but practical experience is paramount. Cut the crap, Shel. This sounds sooo Rubensteinian

OT - An interesting fake?

2004-09-23 Thread Anthony Farr
Even as a fake it was probably a bargain for curiosity's sake alone. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3840869834ssPageName= ADME:B:WN:AU:1 regards, Anthony Farr

RE: OT - An interesting fake?

2004-09-23 Thread Anthony Farr
For those who detest long URLs disrupted by line breaks: http://tinyurl.com/6a9sn regards, Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: Anthony Farr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 24 September 2004 1:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT - An interesting fake? Even

Re: OT - An interesting fake?

2004-09-23 Thread Jim Apilado
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT - An interesting fake? Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:18:51 -0400 Even as a fake it was probably a bargain for curiosity's sake alone. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3840869834ssPageName= ADME:B:WN:AU

Re: OT - An interesting fake?

2004-09-23 Thread Peter J. Alling
What could possibly be lower on the food chain than a FED? Bob W wrote: Hi, There's a shop here in Portland, OR that sells some interesting fake Leicas, many with the swastika. The only interesting fake I own is a FED, a Russian copy of a screw mount Leica. a FED is not a fake Leica - it

Re: OT - An interesting fake?

2004-09-23 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:19:58 -0400, Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What could possibly be lower on the food chain than a FED? A Holga? A fake Holga? -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: OT - An interesting fake?

2004-09-23 Thread ernreed2
What could possibly be lower on the food chain than a FED? Zorki?

Re: OT - An interesting fake?

2004-09-23 Thread Peter J. Alling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What could possibly be lower on the food chain than a FED? Zorki? Possibly, although the Holga is clearly down there just not exactly a Leica copy. -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of