Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....

2004-12-02 Thread Cotty
On 1/12/04, Juey Chong Ong, discombobulated, unleashed: Would it work if you cover the windows with sheets of warming filters? Yes that is done in movie-making but carrying those size gels is expensive and I'm only shooting news ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places,

Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....

2004-12-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
It would work. To me, it wouldn't be worth the effort or the expense. Plus, you would lose the contrast of warm and cold. Paul On Dec 1, 2004, at 11:52 PM, Juey Chong Ong wrote: Cotty, Would it work if you cover the windows with sheets of warming filters? --jc On Nov 27, 2004, at 4:26 AM, Cotty

Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....

2004-12-02 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 23:02:08 -0500, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And all through the house, my wife and daughters were dragging up boxes from the basement and working furiously to decorate the Christmas tree. That's somewhat of a tradition around here. My part of the job was to go

Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....

2004-12-01 Thread Frits Wüthrich
yes, too early, first it is Sinterklaas on 5 Dec, from 6 Dec the Christmas decoration can come out. On Wednesday 01 December 2004 05:39, Boris Liberman wrote: FJW Hi! FJW FJW PS And all through the house, my wife and daughters were dragging up boxes FJW PS from the basement and working

Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....

2004-12-01 Thread Frits Wüthrich
lovely shot, I agree, the remotes and the gass-gril outside should have been removed. On Wednesday 01 December 2004 11:35, Frits Wüthrich wrote: FJW yes, too early, first it is Sinterklaas on 5 Dec, from 6 Dec the Christmas decoration can come out. FJW FJW On Wednesday 01 December 2004 05:39,

Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....

2004-12-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
The unfortunate piece of machinery outside the window is a barbecue grill. The remotes just sort of live there on the coffee table :-). You're right, of course. I should have arranged things. But this was just a playing around grab shot. When I saw that it worked out nicely, I decided to share

Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....

2004-12-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
We decorate early because my children come home for Thanksgiving weekend (which was this past weekend), but they won't be back again until Christmas. As far as the tree lasting, I've found that if we make sure to keep it watered, it will survive until New Years in fairly good shape. Remember,

Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....

2004-12-01 Thread Juey Chong Ong
Cotty, Would it work if you cover the windows with sheets of warming filters? --jc On Nov 27, 2004, at 4:26 AM, Cotty wrote: Interesting. You have come across a classic mixed lighting situation and balanced the picture entirely for tungsten. I daily shoot pics for the news in such scenarios

Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....

2004-11-30 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! PS And all through the house, my wife and daughters were dragging up boxes PS from the basement and working furiously to decorate the Christmas tree. PS That's somewhat of a tradition around here. My part of the job was to PS go out and buy a tree this morning. I opted for a long needle

Re: Bill's Layer Fix (Was Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....)

2004-11-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
what do you think? Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11/27/2004 10:42:49 AM Subject: Bill's Layer Fix (Was Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving) I tried Bill Robb's suggested layer fix. It's here: http://www.photo.net

Re: Bill's Layer Fix (Was Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....)

2004-11-28 Thread Frantisek
PS that I did following Bill's suggestion. I think the ultimate fix is PS going to be to shoot it when it's dark outside :-) Hi Paul, the ultimate fix would be probably doing it movie-style: either buy few rolls of LEE colour-correction foil to put behind the windows, or just wrap each small

Re: Bill's Layer Fix (Was Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....)

2004-11-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
Too much fix :-). On Nov 27, 2004, at 6:59 AM, Frantisek wrote: PS that I did following Bill's suggestion. I think the ultimate fix is PS going to be to shoot it when it's dark outside :-) Hi Paul, the ultimate fix would be probably doing it movie-style: either buy few rolls of LEE

Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....

2004-11-27 Thread Cotty
On 26/11/04, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: And all through the house, my wife and daughters were dragging up boxes from the basement and working furiously to decorate the Christmas tree. That's somewhat of a tradition around here. My part of the job was to go out and buy a tree

Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....

2004-11-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks to al who commented. I figured a bit of holiday cheer was just the thing for a slow list day. Paul On Nov 27, 2004, at 1:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And all through the house, my wife and daughters were dragging up boxes from the basement and

Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....

2004-11-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Nice touch Paul, even if a bit early. Being Jewish, we never had a tree. But the kids had a great time at my folks house putting up their tree. My folks didn't mind either. They are good memories! Regards, Bob S. On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 23:27:37 -0500, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....

2004-11-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Peter J. Alling Subject: Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving Looks like something painted by a Norman Rockwell imitator. (Not a criticism, too warm for a usual Rockwell, and no people). It would make a nice card. Rockwell would have ditched

Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....

2004-11-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving For stills, I would have balanced for daylight and used flash, keeping the domestic lighting from being obliterated as much as possible - I appreciate you probably shot RAW Take the Raw file

Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....

2004-11-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
this for stock without the chairs and small table. But rather than layer it, I'll probably wait until it's a bit darker. That way I won't have to move the grill g. Paul On Nov 27, 2004, at 12:32 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after

Bill's Layer Fix (Was Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....)

2004-11-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
until it's a bit darker. That way I won't have to move the grill g. Paul On Nov 27, 2004, at 12:32 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving For stills, I would have balanced for daylight and used flash, keeping

Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....

2004-11-27 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Nov 27, 2004 at 11:32:51AM -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving For stills, I would have balanced for daylight and used flash, keeping the domestic lighting from being obliterated

RE: Bill's Layer Fix (Was Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....)

2004-11-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
: 11/27/2004 10:42:49 AM Subject: Bill's Layer Fix (Was Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving) I tried Bill Robb's suggested layer fix. It's here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2914383size=lg The original is here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2912959size

RE: Bill's Layer Fix (Was Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....)

2004-11-27 Thread Rob Studdert
On 27 Nov 2004 at 11:32, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Paul I couldn't help myself. Just had to jump in here: http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/pauls-tree.jpg The problem with this method is that you still have to deal with the original tungsten colour temperature conversion so

Re: Bill's Layer Fix (Was Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....)

2004-11-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
(Was Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving) I tried Bill Robb's suggested layer fix. It's here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2914383size=lg The original is here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2912959size=lg I prefer it with Bill's fix. It's still sufficiently

Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....

2004-11-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/11/04, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Take the Raw file, adjust the white balance for tungsten (for the interior). Open it again, and adjust the white balance for daylight (for the exterior). Overlay them as seperate layers, erase the offending parts (I'd put the ouside layer

RE: Bill's Layer Fix (Was Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....)

2004-11-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Sure, when working in RAW there are other options, but, alas, all I had was the already modified JPEG :-((( Shel (pouting and feeling woefully inadequate LOL) [Original Message] From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 27 Nov 2004 at 11:32, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Paul I couldn't

Re: Bill's Layer Fix (Was Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....)

2004-11-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
PROTECTED] Date: 11/27/2004 10:42:49 AM Subject: Bill's Layer Fix (Was Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving) I tried Bill Robb's suggested layer fix. It's here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2914383size=lg The original is here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo

PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....

2004-11-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
And all through the house, my wife and daughters were dragging up boxes from the basement and working furiously to decorate the Christmas tree. That's somewhat of a tradition around here. My part of the job was to go out and buy a tree this morning. I opted for a long needle Scotch Pine this

RE: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....

2004-11-26 Thread Shel Belinkoff
'tis the season for jolly and merry Christmas pictures. Nice tree, Paul ... y'know, I never had a Christmas tree, never decorated anything for the holidays. I think you gentiles have the right idea. Sometimes the Jews are just to friggin' serious. But tell me, isn't putting a tree up the day

Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....

2004-11-26 Thread Keith Whaley
Very nice, warm and comfy looking! Happy holidays! keith whaley Paul Stenquist wrote: And all through the house, my wife and daughters were dragging up boxes from the basement and working furiously to decorate the Christmas tree. That's somewhat of a tradition around here. My part of the job was

Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....

2004-11-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
We used to wait with the tree until mid December or so. But now that the children are grown, they're only here on Thanksgiving and won't be back until 'Christmas. So Thanksgiving has become tree time. A tree is best when it's a family thing. I have some Jewish friends who do Chanukah trees

Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....

2004-11-26 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Paul Stenquist wrote: And all through the house, my wife and daughters were dragging up boxes from the basement and working furiously to decorate the Christmas tree. That's somewhat of a tradition around here. My part of the job was to go out and buy a tree this morning. I opted for a long

Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....

2004-11-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
Scrooge, it's never too early for Christmas. But seriously, it is pushing it just a bit. (Then again the Seasonal section of the local chain drugstore was set up with Christmass decorations on Oct 21st or thereabouts). Shel Belinkoff wrote: 'tis the season for jolly and merry Christmas

Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....

2004-11-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
Looks like something painted by a Norman Rockwell imitator. (Not a criticism, too warm for a usual Rockwell, and no people). It would make a nice card. Paul Stenquist wrote: And all through the house, my wife and daughters were dragging up boxes from the basement and working furiously to

Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....

2004-11-26 Thread ernreed2
Quoting Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And all through the house, my wife and daughters were dragging up boxes from the basement and working furiously to decorate the Christmas tree. That's somewhat of a tradition around here. My part of the job was to go out and buy a tree this