Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-12-02 Thread Cotty
On 1/12/04, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: They (mock mag covers) were getting a bit tiresome for a bit (but not the one of Mark LOL just thinking of that one!). And, of course, Cormorant Times is a classic that will likely never be eclipsed. Quit while yer ahead, says I. My

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-12-01 Thread Cotty
On 30/11/04, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: 4) He's probably done it already, but I think Cotty must use this as yet another mock-mag cover. It's a cover-shot waiting to be used!! Been forced into early retirement. Speaking of the devil, Cavo has gone quiet recently...

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-12-01 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:35:54 -0500, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The one in my shot is a Ring-billed Gull Larus delawarensis - A fitting scientific name since I photographed it in Delaware... Most excellent! Thanks for enlightening me. g cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-12-01 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 08:06:51 +, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Been forced into early retirement. Speaking of the devil, Cavo has gone quiet recently... They (mock mag covers) were getting a bit tiresome for a bit (but not the one of Mark LOL just thinking of that one!). And, of course,

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-30 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Cotty wrote on 29.11.04 23:57: Oh for heaven's sake another Pole. Oh you Brits are soo intolerable, aren't you? ;-) -- Best Regards Sylwek

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-30 Thread Cotty
Oh for heaven's sake another Pole. Oh you Brits are soo intolerable, aren't you? ;-) -- Best Regards Sylwek Not at all dear boy - but the humour can take a while to get used to. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: Re[2]: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
I found that the *istD without the grip was too light and too small for slow shutter speed shooting. The grip is a definite advantage. I shoot handheld with the *istD and the A400/5.6 quite frequently. And I can shoot at 1/15 with a 50mm lens if I take my time and concentrate on what I'm

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-30 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Cotty wrote on 30.11.04 9:39: Not at all dear boy - but the humour can take a while to get used to. I've already got used to yours mate :-) And I was growing up watching Monthy Python's creativeness, so I should feel what you mean more often than you think ;-) -- Best Regards Sylwek

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-30 Thread Peter J. Alling
Yes, they are intolerable... ;-) Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Cotty wrote on 29.11.04 23:57: Oh for heaven's sake another Pole. Oh you Brits are soo intolerable, aren't you? ;-) -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-30 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:22:47 -0500, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gear down, full flaps, nose into the wind http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=7 yes, it's another stupid bird. Pentax *ist D, 300mm Sigma APO, 2x Sigma EX TC, hand held ISO 200 f5.6 1/800.

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-30 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:58:54 -0500, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the shot but Ann...have you ever spent any time with gulls? These things are truly stupid. they've been portrayed perfectly in the Pixar movie Finding Nemo. The light on the wings is really wonderful Christian.

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-30 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Okay, I see there are about 41 or 42 comments already, but I don't have time to read them all. I'm likely going to repeat stuff already said. BUT: 1) I love seagulls. My favourite bird. Don't know why, but they are.

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-30 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: don't everyone post to tell me there's no such thing as a Seagull (except the bad 6x6 Chinese tlr's). Seagull is a generic term for any number of gulls, the most common of which (at least here in Canada) is the

PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Christian
Gear down, full flaps, nose into the wind http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=7 yes, it's another stupid bird. Pentax *ist D, 300mm Sigma APO, 2x Sigma EX TC, hand held ISO 200 f5.6 1/800. Full frame just resized and save for web comments welcomed and appreciated.

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Keith Whaley
Christian wrote: Gear down, full flaps, nose into the wind http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=7 yes, it's another stupid bird. No, no! LOVE your birds... You have a touch with them. keith whaley Pentax *ist D, 300mm Sigma APO, 2x Sigma EX TC, hand held ISO 200 f5.6

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread brooksdj
Great shot. Looks like he's in the middle of his final landing adjustments. Keeper:-) Dave Brooks Christian wrote: Gear down, full flaps, nose into the wind http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=7 yes, it's another

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Cotty
On 29/11/04, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: Gear down, full flaps, nose into the wind http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=7 yes, it's another stupid bird. SUPER shot Christian, nicely done. You've captured well a familiar site to us all with some nice light

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Christian wrote: Gear down, full flaps, nose into the wind http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=7 yes, it's another stupid bird. bird yes, stupid no gorgeous shot Christian! annsan she how loves birds Pentax *ist D, 300mm Sigma APO, 2x Sigma EX TC, hand held

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread pnstenquist
Great shot. You nailed the focus and framing, while catching the critter at the perfect moment. Congratulations. On 29/11/04, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: Gear down, full flaps, nose into the wind http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=7 yes, it's another

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Christian wrote on 29.11.04 18:22: Gear down, full flaps, nose into the wind http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=7 yes, it's another stupid bird. Pentax *ist D, 300mm Sigma APO, 2x Sigma EX TC, hand held ISO 200 f5.6 1/800. Full frame just resized and save

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread cbwaters
I like the shot but Ann...have you ever spent any time with gulls? These things are truly stupid. they've been portrayed perfectly in the Pixar movie Finding Nemo. The light on the wings is really wonderful Christian. Cory MINE! - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele bird yes,

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Yes, it is another stupid bird (but really, let's not underestimate their intelligence), nicely caught. My cats stared at the pic for quite some time and got cat drool all over the monitor and keyboard. I guess that's their complimentary comment as well. Shel Christian wrote on 29.11.04

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Jens Bladt
Awesome shot, Christian! Great web site too, BTW. Jens Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 29. november 2004 19:20 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

RE: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Don Sanderson
The bird may be stupid but the shot is brilliant. Nice. Don -Original Message- From: Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Coming in for a landing Gear down, full flaps, nose into the wind http

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! C Gear down, full flaps, nose into the wind C http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=7 C yes, it's another stupid bird. C Pentax *ist D, 300mm Sigma APO, 2x Sigma EX TC, hand held ISO 200 f5.6 C 1/800. Full frame just resized and save for web C comments welcomed

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread alkos
Boris Liberman, at T=2101.26 : C Pentax *ist D, 300mm Sigma APO, 2x Sigma EX TC, hand held ISO 200 f5.6 C 1/800. Full frame just resized and save for web 300x2x1.5 = 900 mm of focal length. So you can handhold this... Do 900mm at 1/800 is quite realistic as one can theoretically shoot 50 at

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Christian
Boris Liberman wrote on 11/29/2004, 4:01 PM: 300x2x1.5 = 900 mm of focal length. So you can handhold this... Do tell me how. I cannot handhold F 70-210 at 210 mm and 1/250 sec - the shake is evident... I let you in on my little secret, Boris, I shot at least 20 images of gulls in

Hand holding long lenses (Was PESO - Coming in for a landing)

2004-11-29 Thread Rob Studdert
On 29 Nov 2004 at 23:01, Boris Liberman wrote: 300x2x1.5 = 900 mm of focal length. So you can handhold this... Do tell me how. I cannot handhold F 70-210 at 210 mm and 1/250 sec - the shake is evident... I know, I know - I haven't been drinking coffee ever since that post. And I drink just

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Christian
alkos wrote on 11/29/2004, 4:40 PM: 900mm at 1/800 is quite realistic as one can theoretically shoot 50 at 1/50, 135 at 1/125 etc. without motion blur. The question is rather about _focusing_ yeah, and at 900mm [effective] the FOV is very narrow, so keeping the bird in the

Re: Hand holding long lenses (Was PESO - Coming in for a landing)

2004-11-29 Thread Christian
Rob Studdert wrote on 11/29/2004, 5:44 PM: I'm not speaking for Christian but I think that you will find that practice helps a lot and from my experience after you have got good hand holding techniques well practised focus will be your worst enemy. I was shooting a lot over the

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Rob Studdert
On 29 Nov 2004 at 21:40, alkos wrote: BTW. How is your longest time to shoot 50mm steady? Mine is 1/15 when kneeling and using so-called sniper breath technique... I can regularly shoot at 1/4 of the lens FL in seconds and make acceptably sharp shots, my main problem is wind induced subject

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread alkos
Christian, at T=2153.18 : yeah, and at 900mm [effective] the FOV is very narrow, so keeping the bird in the viewfinder is a PITA and then there's the matter of manually focusing so is the DOF... I'm impressed. BTW your page doesn't want to open here in Ireland... :( So I haven't seen

RE: Hand holding long lenses (Was PESO - Coming in for a landing)

2004-11-29 Thread Don Sanderson
: Hand holding long lenses (Was PESO - Coming in for a landing) On 29 Nov 2004 at 23:01, Boris Liberman wrote: 300x2x1.5 = 900 mm of focal length. So you can handhold this... Do tell me how. I cannot handhold F 70-210 at 210 mm and 1/250 sec - the shake is evident... I know, I know - I

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread alkos
BTW. How is your longest time to shoot 50mm steady? Mine is 1/15 when kneeling and using so-called sniper breath technique... I can regularly shoot at 1/4 of the lens FL in seconds and make acceptably sharp shots, my main problem is wind induced subject movement (I shoot a lot of

RE: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Don Sanderson
Two deep breaths, exhale, hold, shoot? Don -Original Message- From: alkos [mailto:alkos]On Behalf Of alkos Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 3:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing using so-called sniper breath technique

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Cotty
On 29/11/04, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: I let you in on my little secret, Boris, I shot at least 20 images of gulls in flight that afternoon. This was the only sharp one I reckon it would be very easy indeed for me to tempt you to the Dark Side, Luke. After all, it IS your

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread alkos
Don Sanderson, at T=2236.51 : Two deep breaths, exhale, hold, shoot? Basically, non-stop-controlled-slow-and-equal breathing and shooting only at full inhale/exhale (without holding!) Something more like joga than military training ;) -- alkos.atspace.com alkos at tlen pl ostro to wymys

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On Nov 29, 2004, at 11:36 PM, Cotty wrote: I reckon it would be very easy indeed for me to tempt you to the Dark Side, Luke. After all, it IS your destiny. But could Darth VadeR be VRong? :-P -- Best regards Sylwek

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread alkos
Sylwester Pietrzyk, at T=2250.22 : Side, Luke. After all, it IS your destiny. But could Darth VadeR be VRong? :-P ROTLFMAO Nie moge, to mnie juz zupelnie rozlozylo na koniec dnia;) -- alkos.atspace.com alkos at tlen pl

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Cotty
On 29/11/04, alkos, discombobulated, unleashed: Sylwester Pietrzyk, at T=2250.22 : Side, Luke. After all, it IS your destiny. But could Darth VadeR be VRong? :-P ROTLFMAO Nie moge, to mnie juz zupelnie rozlozylo na koniec dnia;) Oh for heaven's sake another Pole. Cheers, Cotty

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Kenneth Waller
It maybe a stupid bird, but I'd say you've nailed the image. Well done. Great light to boot! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 12:22 PM Subject: PESO - Coming in for a landing Gear down, full

RE: Hand holding long lenses (Was PESO - Coming in for a landing)

2004-11-29 Thread Jens Bladt
lenses (Was PESO - Coming in for a landing) On 29 Nov 2004 at 23:01, Boris Liberman wrote: 300x2x1.5 = 900 mm of focal length. So you can handhold this... Do tell me how. I cannot handhold F 70-210 at 210 mm and 1/250 sec - the shake is evident... I know, I know - I haven't been drinking coffee

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Christian
Cotty wrote on 11/29/2004, 5:36 PM: I reckon it would be very easy indeed for me to tempt you to the Dark Side, Luke. After all, it IS your destiny. (Best whinging Mark Hammilesk voice): NOO! I'll never join you! well, ok if I had unlimited funds, perhaps

Re: Hand holding long lenses (Was PESO - Coming in for a landing)

2004-11-29 Thread Rob Studdert
On 29 Nov 2004 at 17:02, Christian wrote: Not even a ballpark comparison, Mr. Studdert! Your subject(s) wasn't in motion (in three dimensions, I might add!)! :-) A similar part of each of their anatomies was in full motion however for the most part I'll have to agree, I do have some pretty

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Peter J. Alling
But it's a lovely photo of a stupid bird... Christian wrote: Gear down, full flaps, nose into the wind http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=7 yes, it's another stupid bird. Pentax *ist D, 300mm Sigma APO, 2x Sigma EX TC, hand held ISO 200 f5.6 1/800. Full frame just

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Doug Franklin
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:01:26 +0200, Boris Liberman wrote: 300x2x1.5 = 900 mm of focal length. So you can handhold this... Do tell me how. I cannot handhold F 70-210 at 210 mm and 1/250 sec - the shake is evident... Try shooting lessons, if that's something that's reasonable where you live.

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Christian Subject: PESO - Coming in for a landing Gear down, full flaps, nose into the wind http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=7 yes, it's another stupid bird. Cool. If I had done that, the friggin bird would have shit on me. I hate

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: cbwaters Subject: Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing I like the shot but Ann...have you ever spent any time with gulls? These things are truly stupid. they've been portrayed perfectly in the Pixar movie Finding Nemo. We were walking along a rocky beack

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Peter J. Alling
It's probably mutual. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Christian Subject: PESO - Coming in for a landing Gear down, full flaps, nose into the wind http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=7 yes, it's another stupid bird. Cool. If I had done

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Kenneth Waller
Or, if all else fails use a tripod. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 7:57 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:01:26 +0200, Boris Liberman wrote

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Doug Franklin
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:28:04 -0500, Kenneth Waller wrote: Or, if all else fails use a tripod. If you can. Sometimes you can't. Sometimes you can't even use a monopod. I can usually at least find something to lean back against, though. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Herb Chong
best with a gimballed head. Herb... - Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 8:28 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing Or, if all else fails use a tripod.

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Kenneth Waller
The only way to fly with 500 600mms. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 9:28 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing best with a gimballed head. Herb... - Original Message

Re[2]: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! a Boris Liberman, at T=2101.26 : C Pentax *ist D, 300mm Sigma APO, 2x Sigma EX TC, hand held ISO 200 f5.6 C 1/800. Full frame just resized and save for web 300x2x1.5 = 900 mm of focal length. So you can handhold this... Do a 900mm at 1/800 is quite realistic as one can theoretically

Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing

2004-11-29 Thread Jon Glass
On Nov 29, 2004, at 10:40 PM, alkos wrote: BTW. How is your longest time to shoot 50mm steady? Mine is 1/15 when kneeling and using so-called sniper breath technique... I can handhold my digi at 1/8 or 1/4 of a second. :-) The trick is that you need to shoot as fast as possible. Chances are at