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2018-09-08 Thread Eric Weir
> On Sep 8, 2018, at 5:41 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > What the vociferous pros and antis don't seem to realise is that there is no > gain without some pain (for the benefit of the whole thing). Moderates > realise this and we knuckle down and make best of it. Amen. ---

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2018-09-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Not that it's an unpleasant place to hang out. :-) https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1873/30677733028_35834167fc_o.jpg https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1883/43638584675_8dffb991b7_o.jpg G > On Sep 8, 2018, at 10:41 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > ... > I think I will relinquish this thread back to the O

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2018-09-08 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 7/9/18, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: >Actually BREXIT is the nationalist "Make England Great Again" dogma. >Happening all over the globe, a tenor of the times perhaps? The way I interpret it is less about making England great again, more about relying less - not at all even - o

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2018-09-08 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 8/9/18, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: > If we had voted to remain, the leavers would have just started work on >another referendum, no? Yes of course. >It's what would have happened if the result was opposite. Both the >result and the process are divisive and damaging. If we reve

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2018-09-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
Great Again ...? > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > - Original Message - From: "Steve Cottrell" > Subject: Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG > > >> On 7/9/18, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: >>

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2018-09-07 Thread Ken Waller
I like the idea of a government in the future *bringing us back in*.. Making Britan Great Again ...? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Steve Cottrell" Subject: Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG On 7/9/18, Ralf R R

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2018-09-07 Thread mike wilson
> On 07 September 2018 at 19:28 Steve Cottrell wrote: > > > On 7/9/18, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >And, if it had voted to leave, do you think we would not be well on the > >way to another referendum? > > Sorry Mike I don't understand the question - might be me just being thi

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2018-09-07 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 7/9/18, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: >And, if it had voted to leave, do you think we would not be well on the >way to another referendum? Sorry Mike I don't understand the question - might be me just being thick mate. >Not so much its existence but the methodology (one vote can de

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2018-09-07 Thread mike wilson
> On 07 September 2018 at 00:28 Steve Cottrell wrote: > > > On 6/9/18, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >Why do you say there is no going back? > > Because a referendum was held. It was a very close call, but the country > voted to leave. And, if it had voted to leave, do

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2018-09-07 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
https://youtu.be/gmOvEwtDycs Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 11:06 AM Alan C wrote: > Are you allowed to say that on this forum? > > Alan C > > On 07-Sep-18 04:49 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > You folks from the UK and EU have NO ideas how

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2018-09-07 Thread Alan C
Are you allowed to say that on this forum? Alan C On 07-Sep-18 04:49 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: You folks from the UK and EU have NO ideas how daft politics can be! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 5:16 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Intere

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2018-09-07 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
You folks from the UK and EU have NO ideas how daft politics can be! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 5:16 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Interesting discussion if rather far afield of a PESO post. :-) > > G > — > No matter where you go, politi

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2018-09-07 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 7/9/18, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >No matter where you go, politics is daft. AMEN TO THAT !! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and || (O) |Live Broadcast News -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml

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2018-09-07 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 7/9/18, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >Interesting discussion if rather far afield of a PESO post. :-) Especially as you are in Brexitland right now !!! I will be checking your passport shortly -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and || (O) |Live Bro

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2018-09-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Interesting discussion if rather far afield of a PESO post. :-) G — No matter where you go, politics is daft. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directio

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2018-09-07 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 7/9/18, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: >How about: something that in all probability will end in tears, misery >and mayhem? And yes, that's possible - latest thoughts from Blair: -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__UK Shoot /

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2018-09-07 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 7/9/18, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: >Methinks the British voters have been fooled into a decision that goes >diametrically against their interests and should be given a second >chance before it's too late. I agree with you Ralf, but it won't happen. Not without a change o

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2018-09-07 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 07.09.18 um 01:28 schrieb Steve Cottrell: Define 'mistake' ! How about: something that in all probability will end in tears, misery and mayhem? Even Rees-Mogg admits that no-one who voted for Brexit will live to see the good that might perhaps come out of it in a century or two. Just

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2018-09-06 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 6/9/18, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: >Why do you say there is no going back? Because a referendum was held. It was a very close call, but the country voted to leave. I personally don't believe we should have had a referendum at all. We live in a parliamentary democracy - w

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2018-09-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Why do you say there is no going back? I have no opinion as to what the UK should do, but if Brexit is a mistake, someone should bite the bullet and undo it. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 6:56 PM Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 6/9/18, Daniel J

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2018-09-06 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 6/9/18, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: >Will the UK survive all the fighting over Brexit? Yes of course. I think there will be some Picardpalms and maybe a bit of mayhem, definitely there will be much gnashing of teeth, but nobody's gonna die, I hope. The whole thing was a s

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2018-09-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Actually, you are not that far off. My third, and most recent, visit to the UK was in April 2008. Will the UK survive all the fighting over Brexit? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 1:35 PM Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 6/9/18, Daniel J. Matyola

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2018-09-06 Thread John Coyle
ssage- From: PDML On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2018 6:39 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG That will do, I guess, until the Proletariat Revolution comes. :-) G — Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigio...@me.com - 408-431-4601 > On Sep 6,

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2018-09-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Good we get to keep our under-cooked vegetables and overcooked hamburgers, all to ourselves.  Life is good. On 9/6/2018 11:09 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: You'll just have to make do with wholesome American food. On 6 Sep 2018, at 16:06, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: "none of you foreigners will be al

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2018-09-06 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 6/9/18, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: >How would we ever survive without those "full English Breakfasts" of rubber >eggs, raw bacon, blood sausage, and instant coffee? I love how Dan is still living in 1968 at RAF Coningsby playing a harmonica sat on the wing of that Phantom

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2018-09-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
That will do, I guess, until the Proletariat Revolution comes. :-) G — Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigio...@me.com - 408-431-4601 > On Sep 6, 2018, at 3:41 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > > Don't worry, as of 29 Mar next year we'll be winding the clocks back to 1953 > forever. There won't be any tax,

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2018-09-06 Thread Bob W-PDML
You'll just have to make do with wholesome American food. > On 6 Sep 2018, at 16:06, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > "none of you foreigners will be allowed into this blessed realm." > > How would we ever survive without those "full English Breakfasts" of rubber > eggs, raw bacon, blood sausage, a

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2018-09-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
"none of you foreigners will be allowed into this blessed realm." How would we ever survive without those "full English Breakfasts" of rubber eggs, raw bacon, blood sausage, and instant coffee? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola How On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 10:42 AM Bob W

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2018-09-06 Thread Bob W-PDML
Don't worry, as of 29 Mar next year we'll be winding the clocks back to 1953 forever. There won't be any tax, we'll all get around in golden carriages pulled by unicorn zebras, King Jacob and Queen Boris will declare every day to be Royal Wedding Day, the NHS will close down because illness will

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2018-09-06 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 6/9/18, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >I wonder how a foreigner is supposed to know that if no one asks if he >wants take out or eat in? And when the cafe right next door does counter >service and just lets you sit down afterwards...? ;-) It's a load of old fetid bollocks. A th

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2018-09-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Ah, so that's what the fuss was about. Thanx! I wonder how a foreigner is supposed to know that if no one asks if he wants take out or eat in? And when the cafe right next door does counter service and just lets you sit down afterwards...? ;-) G > On Sep 5, 2018, at 9:38 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

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2018-09-05 Thread Bob W-PDML
If you buy a takeaway you don't pay VAT, whereas if you buy to eat on premises you pay VAT (value-added tax - eating on the premises is the value-add). I assume they have VAT on the IOM. > On 2 Sep 2018, at 23:21, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > Thanks! > > I must live a fairly tame existence be

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2018-09-02 Thread Jack Davis
Cup and bowl still need to be moved. J(:-) Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 2, 2018, at 3:15 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > > I like it too, soft or not... favorite is the black and white with the cup on > the old wooden table... and the odd motor bike in front of the brick home. > > ann > >> On 9

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2018-09-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
well seen and composed. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 5:29 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > This morning at the Peel breakwater it was soft and drizzly, blowy, and I > had problems getting the focus correct. > > I realized, after looking at the

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2018-09-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thanks! I must live a fairly tame existence because I've always had a lot of good times here and haven't done anything illegal that I'm aware of... No one's flogged me yet, although I did get yelled at by a shopkeeper the other day. Something about I can't sit down at a table if I've ordered ta

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2018-09-02 Thread ann sanfedele
I like it too, soft or not... favorite is the black and white with the cup on the old wooden table... and the odd motor bike in front of the brick home. ann On 9/2/2018 6:09 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: That's a nice shot, like the texture. I've never been to the Isle of Man. Apparently everything

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2018-09-02 Thread Bob W-PDML
That's a nice shot, like the texture. I've never been to the Isle of Man. Apparently everything worth doing is illegal there, and they flog you for it. A bit like a cold, wet version of Saudi Arabia, plus Jeremy Clarkson to top it all off. B > On 2 Sep 2018, at 22:29, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

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2018-09-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
This morning at the Peel breakwater it was soft and drizzly, blowy, and I had problems getting the focus correct. I realized, after looking at the exposures I made, that the soft focus was actually part of what I was seeing ... Not exactly what I wanted, but eh? It works in a fashion. I do wan