Re: Potential enablement - full frame AF lens wider than 18 mm

2007-09-30 Thread P. J. Alling
It's been emasculated. Cotty wrote: > On 28/09/07, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >> He means the 15/3.5 as that's what Cotty butchered >> > > Hardly butchered. It has the aperture lever removed. That's all. The EF > mount that is screwed onto the back can easily be replaced b

Re: Potential enablement - full frame AF lens wider than 18 mm

2007-09-29 Thread Cotty
On 29/09/07, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: >Care to tell us the "different story" of "Now Tokina"? I was just referring to the general build quality of Tokina lenses. Good. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.

Re: Potential enablement - full frame AF lens wider than 18 mm

2007-09-29 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! > In real world use it's not too bad. I'm not a great lover of the finish > of Stigma lenses, although I've come across worse. I had a 70-200 > however that was pretty good. Sold it to a nutty Norwegian when I gave > up film and entered Canon territory. The 14mm was okay, but ,to be > honest I

Re: Potential enablement - full frame AF lens wider than 18 mm

2007-09-29 Thread Cotty
On 29/09/07, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: >I wonder if anyone else on the list tried Sigma 14 lens except Godfrey >who wasn't satisfied. Me. I've posted a flare test in a different thread but here it is again In real world use it's n

Re: Potential enablement - full frame AF lens wider than 18 mm

2007-09-29 Thread Peter Jordan
I have a sigma 12 - 24 and can attest to the fact that at least my sample is a cracker. Only negative is that it isn't the world's smallest lens. It's about the same size and bulk as my other Sigma, 28 - 70 F/2.8. Peter Boris Liberman wrote: > Hi! > > My FAJ 18-35 is a good lens but I want even

Re: Potential enablement - full frame AF lens wider than 18 mm

2007-09-29 Thread Boris Liberman
Indeed. However there is one gotcha - new Tamron 14/2.8 SP lenses go for above $1000. I am not *that* rich. I cannot buy K (A) 15/3.5 for the same reason I am selling my Sigma 18/3.5. I cannot properly focus manually if I need to be closer than at infinity. Strangely enough Sigma 14/2.8 gets r

Re: Potential enablement - full frame AF lens wider than 18 mm

2007-09-29 Thread Derby Chang
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > You might hunt for a Pentax 16/3.5 ... I don't buy Sigma lenses and > the difference between a 17 and an 18 isn't worth the expense IMO. A > better lens might be worth it, however. > > However, I suspect the Pentax DA14/2.8 or DA12-24/4 are better > performers on the

Re: Potential enablement - full frame AF lens wider than 18 mm

2007-09-28 Thread Rick Womer
Okay, okay. Merely amputated and transgendered. --- Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hardly butchered. It has the aperture lever removed. > That's all. The EF > mount that is screwed onto the back can easily be > replaced by the K > mount at any time. But not any time soon ;-) > > -- > >

Re: Potential enablement - full frame AF lens wider than 18 mm

2007-09-28 Thread Cotty
On 28/09/07, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: >He means the 15/3.5 as that's what Cotty butchered Hardly butchered. It has the aperture lever removed. That's all. The EF mount that is screwed onto the back can easily be replaced by the K mount at any time. But not any time soon ;-) --

Re: Potential enablement - full frame AF lens wider than 18 mm

2007-09-28 Thread Cotty
On 28/09/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >(Cotty's FrankenCanonPentax 16mm >notwithstanding... ;-). 15, mate. 15! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-D

Re: Potential enablement - full frame AF lens wider than 18 mm

2007-09-28 Thread Adam Maas
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Sep 28, 2007, at 12:19 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > >> Rick, I have Pentax 17-28... I have learned that there is Sigma 14/2.8 >> and Tamron 14/2.8 both AF, full frame (Tamron?) rectilinear lenses. >> Sigma can be had for $900 new from B&J or Adorama. >> >> Question is h

Re: Potential enablement - full frame AF lens wider than 18 mm

2007-09-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
That's the one. ;-) G On Sep 28, 2007, at 12:57 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > He means the 15/3.5 as that's what Cotty butchered to put on his > Kwanon. > >> Godfrey, do you mean 16/2.8 fish eye or 16/3.5 lens that I am hearing >> about for the first time? >> >>> You might hunt for a Pentax 16/3.5 ..

Re: Potential enablement - full frame AF lens wider than 18 mm

2007-09-28 Thread Adam Maas
Boris, He means the 15/3.5 as that's what Cotty butchered to put on his Kwanon. -Adam Boris Liberman wrote: > Godfrey, do you mean 16/2.8 fish eye or 16/3.5 lens that I am hearing > about for the first time? > > Thanks. > > Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >> You might hunt for a Pentax 16/3.5 ... I

Re: Potential enablement - full frame AF lens wider than 18 mm

2007-09-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 28, 2007, at 12:19 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Rick, I have Pentax 17-28... I have learned that there is Sigma 14/2.8 > and Tamron 14/2.8 both AF, full frame (Tamron?) rectilinear lenses. > Sigma can be had for $900 new from B&J or Adorama. > > Question is how to I make sure that I get a go

Re: Potential enablement - full frame AF lens wider than 18 mm

2007-09-28 Thread Boris Liberman
Godfrey, do you mean 16/2.8 fish eye or 16/3.5 lens that I am hearing about for the first time? Thanks. Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > You might hunt for a Pentax 16/3.5 ... I don't buy Sigma lenses and > the difference between a 17 and an 18 isn't worth the expense IMO. A > better lens might be

Re: Potential enablement - full frame AF lens wider than 18 mm

2007-09-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
You might hunt for a Pentax 16/3.5 ... I don't buy Sigma lenses and the difference between a 17 and an 18 isn't worth the expense IMO. A better lens might be worth it, however. However, I suspect the Pentax DA14/2.8 or DA12-24/4 are better performers on the DSLR (Cotty's FrankenCanonPentax 1

Re: Potential enablement - full frame AF lens wider than 18 mm

2007-09-28 Thread Boris Liberman
Rick, I have Pentax 17-28... I have learned that there is Sigma 14/2.8 and Tamron 14/2.8 both AF, full frame (Tamron?) rectilinear lenses. Sigma can be had for $900 new from B&J or Adorama. Question is how to I make sure that I get a good sample and which one do I choose? Boris Rick Womer wr

Re: Potential enablement - full frame AF lens wider than 18 mm

2007-09-28 Thread Rick Womer
How do you feel about fisheye? The Pentax 17-28 is a beauty. Rick --- Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > My FAJ 18-35 is a good lens but I want even wider > lens. And I want it AF > and even more I want it to be full frame. > > It seems to me that my options are (in parenthes

Potential enablement - full frame AF lens wider than 18 mm

2007-09-28 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! My FAJ 18-35 is a good lens but I want even wider lens. And I want it AF and even more I want it to be full frame. It seems to me that my options are (in parentheses is Fred Miranda site score): Sigma 15-30/3.5-4.5 (8.5 out of 71 reviews) Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 (8.7 out of 64 reviews) Tamron 1