RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-17 Thread John Sessoms
From: Walter Hamler I need a macro lens. Don't want to spend the bucks for the latest Pentax AF, for that matter I think I would prefer a MF version. KEH has some 100mm f/4 in different versions, one being an A model. They also have a Sigma 90mm f/2.8 A . Anyone know anything about

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: John Sessoms Subject: RE: Macro Lenses I lucked into a Pentax-A 100 f/2.8 macro a year or so back, and it's a fine lens. The f/4 lens only goes to .5x, while the f/2.8 goes to 1x. And according to Dimitrov's Pentax K-Mount Equipment Page, the f/2.8A

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-15 Thread mike wilson
that it doesn't make much sense to compare the images you suggest, though. It's just a different issue. From: Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/15 Thu AM 02:39:12 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Macro Lenses magnification on a digital sensor is a moot point anyway

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-15 Thread Mishka
in the magnification expression or calculation ! ! ! jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 1:37 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Macro Lenses Mishka, Magnification in macro work

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-15 Thread Mishka
issue. From: Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/15 Thu AM 02:39:12 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Macro Lenses magnification on a digital sensor is a moot point anyway. how do you measure it? suppose you have 24x36mm (FF) sensors: one is 2x2 pixels

Re: Macro Lenses - only a fool would....

2007-03-15 Thread P. J. Alling
Nice compression. Markus Maurer wrote: I got so confused about all this small /big macro/tele chat that I foolishly left the Pentax A50mm macro in the bag and used the Tamron SP 500 mirror lens for a flower shot this morning :-) http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/eastermirror.jpg

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 1:37 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Macro Lenses Mishka, Magnification in macro work means the ratio of the size of the subject to the size of the format. 1

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-15 Thread J. C. O'Connell
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Macro Lenses The format is irrelevant to magnification. I was giving an example. If you understood what I said, you'd understand that it was the same thing ... said another way: - The size of the DSLR format is 16x24. If the magnification is 1:1, the size

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-15 Thread Mishka
incorrect. a 1:1 reproduction of an object 10mmx10mm is 10mmx10mm regardless whether it is on a sensor, a piece of film or a wall. size of the format does not enter the equation. best, mishka On 3/15/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So at 1:1 magnification, a Pentax DSLR will

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mishka Subject: Re: Macro Lenses incorrect. a 1:1 reproduction of an object 10mmx10mm is 10mmx10mm regardless whether it is on a sensor, a piece of film or a wall. size of the format does not enter the equation. Actually, what Godfrey is saying

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-15 Thread J. C. O'Connell
] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:57 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Macro Lenses - Original Message - From: Mishka Subject: Re: Macro Lenses incorrect. a 1:1 reproduction of an object 10mmx10mm is 10mmx10mm regardless whether

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I give up. People don't know how to read. G On Mar 15, 2007, at 11:57 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Mishka Subject: Re: Macro Lenses incorrect. a 1:1 reproduction of an object 10mmx10mm is 10mmx10mm regardless whether it is on a sensor, a piece of film

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: Macro Lenses I give up. People don't know how to read. Soylent Green is people.. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-15 Thread Tom C
uhh... who here has *NEVER* misread something? Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone. Tom C. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Macro Lenses Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:45:14

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: Macro Lenses uhh... who here has *NEVER* misread something? Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone. I just finged one at yer head. Did it hurt? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-15 Thread John Whittingham
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:37:50 -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote The format is irrelevant to magnification. I was giving an example. If you understood what I said, you'd understand that it was the same thing ... said another way: - The size of the DSLR format is 16x24. If the magnification is

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-15 Thread Tom C
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: Macro Lenses uhh... who here has *NEVER* misread something? Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone. I just finged one at yer head. Did it hurt? William Robb Only my feelings. :-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: Macro Lenses I just finged one at yer head. Did it hurt? William Robb Only my feelings. :-) get past it, ya big baby ww -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-15 Thread Peter Fairweather
uhh... who here has *NEVER* misread something? Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone. So far as I know only one member of this list has never misread anything!! I'm not sure that the word stone adequately represents the very glutinous nature of the object being throwm Peter --

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Peter Fairweather wrote: uhh... who here has *NEVER* misread something? Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone. So far as I know only one member of this list has never misread anything!! I can think of at least one who appears never to have *read* anything on the list ;-) --

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Giving an interesting twist to the lyric, People who love people ... Shel [Original Message] From: William Robb Soylent Green is people.. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-15 Thread P. J. Alling
Statement: I don't like your mother in law. Answer: Then just eat the vegetables. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Giving an interesting twist to the lyric, People who love people ... Shel [Original Message] From: William Robb Soylent Green is people.. --

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
%+ an actual scene or object with same framing/AOV is needed, NOT same image magnification needed. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Whittingham Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:42 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Macro

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 7:15 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Macro Lenses Traditionally Macro started at 1:2. lots of lenses that were only close focusing 1:4 were labeled as macro however

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread Mishka
magnification on a digital sensor is a moot point anyway. how do you measure it? suppose you have 24x36mm (FF) sensors: one is 2x2 pixels and one is 20MP. does it make any sense to compare 1:1 mag images made on them? best, mishka On 3/14/07, John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Mishka, Magnification in macro work means the ratio of the size of the subject to the size of the format. 1:1 on a Pentax DSLR images a 16x24mm area. G On Mar 14, 2007, at 7:39 PM, Mishka wrote: magnification on a digital sensor is a moot point anyway. how do you measure it? suppose you

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 1:37 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Macro Lenses Mishka, Magnification in macro work means the ratio of the size of the subject to the size of the format. 1:1 on a Pentax DSLR

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread Peter Lacus
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I quite like the look of my 50 and 28 mm F series. exactly, I too like my F50/1.7 and IMHO only Limiteds and everything pre-A are nicer looking. Actually it was the first AF lens I've bought to see what about AF is. I still prefer to focus it manually

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread Thibouille
I forgot to add that the FA 100/3.5 Macro is a 1:2 lens. If I'm not mistaken older version of the Tamron 90 Macro were 1:2 as well (1:1 with matched adapter). 2007/3/13, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have few experience with macro lenses 'cos I only own two: * Tamron SP 70-210 3.5-4 Macro

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread Toine
I have the M100/4 macro. Cheap and tack sharp. Bokeh could be better. Toine On 3/13/07, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need a macro lens. Don't want to spend the bucks for the latest Pentax AF, for that matter I think I would prefer a MF version. KEH has some 100mm f/4 in different

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread Brian Walters
against green since my military service :-( greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Walters Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:34 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Macro Lenses Beauty is in the eye

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread John Whittingham
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:44:27 -0400, J. C. O'Connell wrote I have used macros from 50mm to 180mm on 35mm format, (33mm to 120 on APS equiv.) and I find that its good to have multiple focal lengths just like normal photography, but just like normal photography, if you only have one lens, you

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread Christian
J. C. O'Connell wrote: I have used macros from 50mm to 180mm on 35mm format, (33mm to 120 on APS equiv.) and I find that its good to have multiple focal lengths just like normal photography, but just like normal photography, if you only have one lens, you dont want only the long end of the

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread Christian
John Whittingham wrote: On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:44:27 -0400, J. C. O'Connell wrote I have used macros from 50mm to 180mm on 35mm format, (33mm to 120 on APS equiv.) and I find that its good to have multiple focal lengths just like normal photography, but just like normal photography, if you

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread P. J. Alling
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Walters Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:34 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Macro Lenses Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I quite like the look of my 50 and 28 mm F series. Cheers Brian

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
control background somewhat with DOF/aperture if needed. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 8:16 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Macro Lenses John Whittingham wrote: On Tue, 13 Mar

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
, 2007 8:14 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Macro Lenses J. C. O'Connell wrote: I have used macros from 50mm to 180mm on 35mm format, (33mm to 120 on APS equiv.) and I find that its good to have multiple focal lengths just like normal photography, but just like normal photography

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread Christian
J. C. O'Connell wrote: I would rather have only a 50mm for APS than a 90-105mm. Thats what I mean by general purpose MACRO. And I would rather have only a 100mm macro for APS-sized digital for my general purpose macro. So really it is personal preference based on what subject you generally

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread Christian
J. C. O'Connell wrote: they dont allow better control of the background when you WANT some more background do they? Thats what shorter lenses are for in a lot of cases. Of course, I agree with that. I use wide angles a lot for flower macros. It is not always desired to have the extreme

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Christian Subject: Re: Macro Lenses FF wrote: they dont allow better control of the background when you WANT some more background do they? Thats what shorter lenses are for in a lot of cases. Of course, I agree with that. I use wide angles a lot

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Walter Hamler wrote: Thanks for all the various inputs on the Macro question. You all gave me a lot to think about. I just talked to the folks at BH, and they would have had to order the AF version of the Phoenix 100mm f/3.5 macro (same lens as the Pentax 100 f/3.5 that is discontinued),

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread ann sanfedele
Walter Hamler wrote: I need a macro lens. Don't want to spend the bucks for the latest Pentax AF, for that matter I think I would prefer a MF version. KEH has some 100mm f/4 in different versions, one being an A model. They also have a Sigma 90mm f/2.8 A . Anyone know anything about these or

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:33 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Macro Lenses J. C. O'Connell wrote: I would rather have only a 50mm for APS than a 90-105mm. Thats what I mean by general purpose MACRO. And I would rather have only a 100mm

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
with extensions. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:37 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Macro Lenses J. C. O'Connell wrote: they dont allow better control of the background when

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
List Subject: Re: Macro Lenses Walter Hamler wrote: Thanks for all the various inputs on the Macro question. You all gave me a lot to think about. I just talked to the folks at BH, and they would have had to order the AF version of the Phoenix 100mm f/3.5 macro (same lens as the Pentax 100 f/3.5

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread Christian
J. C. O'Connell wrote: NOPE, dont agree, your purpose is not general, its very limited to only smaller objects at higher. I am talking about doing everything you can do with a macro lens thats better than using a regular lens. I do pretty much it all. jco I CAN do more than just smaller

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread Christian
J. C. O'Connell wrote: But the topis was a ONE LENS macro setup, and for only one lens those long lenses are too long for general purpose macro IMHO. And that's your opinion which does not match MY opinion for MY one lens macro kit. What make 300mm and 500mm true macro lenses are you

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
for non macro usage 50mm lenses are considered normal / general purpose and 90-105mm lenses are NOT. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:46 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Macro Lenses

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
that is why I recommended a good general purpose MACRO focal length on APS , like the 50mm SMC-A MACRO lens. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:41 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Macro Lenses

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread Christian
J. C. O'Connell wrote: yes, a WIDER AOV , (much more normal AOV ) from a different, closer point of view than the really long macro's extremely narrow AOV from more distant POVs. Sounds like a specialist kind of purpose (kinda like what you called my specialist purpose of LIMITING AOV or

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread John Whittingham
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:40:40 -0400, Christian wrote J. C. O'Connell wrote: But the topis was a ONE LENS macro setup, and for only one lens those long lenses are too long for general purpose macro IMHO. And that's your opinion which does not match MY opinion for MY one lens macro

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread John Whittingham
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:25:44 -0400, J. C. O'Connell wrote I thought we were talking Pentax/Pentax mount lenses. Using regular (non high mag optimized) lenses for macro work is not going to give you the same overall image quality as true macro lenses, and TCs will only make matters worse.

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread Christian
J. C. O'Connell wrote: I thought we were talking Pentax/Pentax mount lenses. I never said that. My original recommendations were for K-mount lenses, however. The Sigma I owned was in K-mount and used very nicely on the *ist D. Using regular (non high mag optimized) lenses for macro work is

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread David J Brooks
If your just looking for use at GFM, i, like John stated, like the 70-210, which i will bring, along with the 100 F2.8 and my Tamron, Nikon mount, 90 macro. You can borrow one if you like. I'll probably use the Tamron. Dave On 3/14/07, John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes the Sigma

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread Eactivist
I love the Tamron 90 SP Macro. Marnie aka Doe BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:29 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Macro Lenses J. C. O'Connell wrote: yes, a WIDER AOV , (much more normal AOV ) from a different, closer point of view than the really long macro's extremely narrow AOV

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Whittingham Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:30 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Macro Lenses On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:25:44 -0400, J. C. O'Connell wrote I thought we were talking Pentax/Pentax mount lenses. Using regular (non high mag optimized) lenses

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
actually have wished for a 35mm macro instead recently which I don't have. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:52 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Macro Lenses J. C. O'Connell wrote: I

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread Adam Maas
Ditto. Simply superb lens. If it was an f2 it would be perfect (I could replace my 85 with it then) but without that it still is one of the best lenses I've owned. -Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love the Tamron 90 SP Macro. Marnie aka Doe

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread John Whittingham
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:48:35 -0400, J. C. O'Connell wrote Is this a telephoto lens? If so its not going to perform as well as non-telephoto dedicated macro lenses. Just another reason why 50mm may be a better choice on APS format because the 50mm macro lenses are not telephotos... jco What

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread John Whittingham
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:58:01 -0400, J. C. O'Connell wrote Regarding working distances, the 50mm f.l. ON APS gives much better working distances than it did on on 35mm FF format for same subject framing. This is because you dont have to get as close (or need as high a magnification) to fill

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:10 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Macro Lenses Ditto. Simply superb lens. If it was an f2 it would be perfect (I could replace my 85 with it then) but without that it still is one of the best lenses I've owned. -Adam

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:37 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Macro Lenses On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:48:35 -0400, J. C. O'Connell wrote Is this a telephoto lens? If so its not going to perform as well as non-telephoto dedicated macro lenses. Just another reason why 50mm may

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-14 Thread P. J. Alling
Traditionally Macro started at 1:2. lots of lenses that were only close focusing 1:4 were labeled as macro however. Christian wrote: J. C. O'Connell wrote: I thought we were talking Pentax/Pentax mount lenses. I never said that. My original recommendations were for K-mount

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread John Whittingham
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:43:12 -0400, Walter Hamler wrote I need a macro lens. Don't want to spend the bucks for the latest Pentax AF, for that matter I think I would prefer a MF version. KEH has some 100mm f/4 in different versions, one being an A model. They also have a Sigma 90mm f/2.8 A .

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread Christian
Walter Hamler wrote: I need a macro lens. Don't want to spend the bucks for the latest Pentax AF, for that matter I think I would prefer a MF version. KEH has some 100mm f/4 in different versions, one being an A model. They also have a Sigma 90mm f/2.8 A . Anyone know anything about these

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread Mike Hamilton
On 3/13/07, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need a macro lens. Don't want to spend the bucks for the latest Pentax AF, for that matter I think I would prefer a MF version. KEH has some 100mm f/4 in different versions, one being an A model. They also have a Sigma 90mm f/2.8 A . Anyone

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread Thibouille
I have few experience with macro lenses 'cos I only own two: * Tamron SP 70-210 3.5-4 Macro which is good but not really a macro lens (a zoom even macro will never be a really good macro lens imo) * Pentax FA 100/3.5 macro (really a Cosina lens). I find it good. It was veeery slow to ficus with

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread Peter Lacus
Hi Walter, Anyone know anything about these or others that I need to consider? Tamron SP 90/2.5 ? Cheers, Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread J. C. O'Connell
If you are going to shoot APS digital I would recommend a 50mm over any 90-105mm Macros for a sole macro lens, those others are too long for general purpose macro IMHO. I would go with a fast manual focus 50mm, which really limits you to the SMC-A 50mm F2.8 because the F4 models, while good, are a

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread Brian Walters
I agree with that - I've been using an early version of the 90 mm SP Tamron for years. It's excellent. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Peter Lacus [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Walter, Anyone know anything about these or others

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread Brian Walters
I guess it depends on how close Walt wants to get. A lot of what I do is close rather than true macro and I find the extra distance with the 90mm Tamron on the *ist DS is more workable than with my 50mm Macro Takumar. I often use flash and find that I can't get the light where I want it with

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Brian Walters Subject: RE: Macro Lenses I guess it depends on how close Walt wants to get. A lot of what I do is close rather than true macro and I find the extra distance with the 90mm Tamron on the *ist DS is more workable than with my 50mm Macro

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Walter Hamler Subject: Macro Lenses I need a macro lens. Don't want to spend the bucks for the latest Pentax AF, for that matter I think I would prefer a MF version. KEH has some 100mm f/4 in different versions, one being an A model. They also have a

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
I have the Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5. This is the first version with the optical adapter that brings it to 1:! and includes a tripod mount. It's an amazing lens with beautiful bokeh. You can probably find one for around $150 US. This is one of my favorite shots with that lens. It's right around

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread Markus Maurer
as well. greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Whittingham Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 11:09 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Macro Lenses On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:43:12 -0400, Walter Hamler wrote I need a macro

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I found an A50/2.8 Macro with perfect optics and a bit of finish wear from use at the local photo shop about a year and a half ago for $130. Excellent lens, works great, extemely sharp yet remarkably good rendering for general purpose use. Allows 1:2 without additions, add a 25mm extension

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
It has been said here quite a few times that the 50/1.7 is a better macro lens, but I don't think there was a 1.7 past the M or A series. That said, I could never tell the difference between the M50/1.4 and the M50/1.7 when used with xtension tubes and when the lenses were used stopped down to

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread J. C. O'Connell
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Macro Lenses It has been said here quite a few times that the 50/1.7 is a better macro lens, but I don't think there was a 1.7 past the M or A series. That said, I could never tell the difference between the M50/1.4 and the M50/1.7 when used with xtension tubes

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread Markus Maurer
: Macro Lenses It has been said here quite a few times that the 50/1.7 is a better macro lens, but I don't think there was a 1.7 past the M or A series. That said, I could never tell the difference between the M50/1.4 and the M50/1.7 when used with xtension tubes and when the lenses were used

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread Brian Walters
That's precisely my experience as well. I bought the 50 mm macro takumar at a good price thinking that it would be more use than my 90 mm Tamron on the DS. It hasn't worked out that way. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 04:37:26PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: It has been said here quite a few times that the 50/1.7 is a better macro lens, but I don't think there was a 1.7 past the M or A series. That's odd - I've got one that claims to be a Pentax F 50mm/f1.7. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread Joseph Tainter
I've never seen a bad report on any macro lens. It seems to be something that is simple to design. Of course some are better than others. But I'm not familiar with any that won't give you good results. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread Joseph Tainter
I would like a 35mm 2.8 Macro for APS too but I dont know of any out there yet. jco - You are not alone. One is coming later this year: DA 35 F2.8 Macro Limited. Probably no aperture simulator. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread Joseph Tainter
It has been said here quite a few times that the 50/1.7 is a better macro lens, but I don't think there was a 1.7 past the M or A series. - The 50 F1.7 started out as an M42 lens. I had it with my old H2 (H3?). Then it was produced in K mount through, I believe, 1977. Anyway, it is

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread Brian Walters
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I quite like the look of my 50 and 28 mm F series. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Shel What about the Pentax-F 1:1.7. Ugly military look but should

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread Joseph Tainter
Just ignore my last post. Misinformation I am tired, and was thinking of the 55 F1.8. But the 50 F1.7 did originate in 1977, and continued through M, A, F, and FA versions until it was terminated recently. Joe - The 50 F1.7 started out as an M42 lens. I had it with my old H2 (H3?). Then

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread Mark Cassino
If you are using a DSLR it's tough to say. I use a Kiron 100mm f2.8 macro and it is outstanding on film - but has some Chromatic Aberration on the *ist-D and more on the K10D. You can correct for the CA to some degree in the RAW interpreter, but not 100%. I also see some CA using the M50 f4

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread Mishka
try this: http://tinyurl.com/yvvekn (my apologies if i spoiled someone's bidding...) best, mishka On 3/13/07, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never seen a bad report on any macro lens. It seems to be something that is simple to design. Of course some are better than others. But

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:37 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Macro Lenses It has been said here quite a few times that the 50/1.7 is a better macro lens, but I don't think there was a 1.7 past the M or A series. - The 50 F1.7 started out as an M42 lens. I had it with my old H2 (H3

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
There was certainly an F50/1.7 ... I have a pristine box for one sitting on my stuff for sale pile. ;-) Godfrey On Mar 13, 2007, at 5:37 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: It has been said here quite a few times that the 50/1.7 is a better macro lens, but I don't think there was a 1.7 past the M

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread J. C. O'Connell
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Macro Lenses - Original Message - From: Brian Walters Subject: RE: Macro Lenses I guess it depends on how close Walt wants to get. A lot of what I do is close rather than true macro and I find the extra distance with the 90mm Tamron on the *ist DS

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread Joseph Tainter
try this: http://tinyurl.com/yvvekn (my apologies if i spoiled someone's bidding...) best, mishka - Well, that's interesting. I haven't heard of that make before. Is it a Chinese product? And don't worry, Mishka. I'll bet the seller has more than one. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
So - I did say that I wasn't sure if there was a 50/1.7 past the A series: ... but I don't think there was a 1.7 past the M or A series. Shel [Original Message] From: John Francis On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 04:37:26PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: It has been said here quite a few times

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: 3/13/2007 5:01:56 PM Subject: RE: Macro Lenses Hi Shel What about the Pentax-F 1:1.7. Ugly military look but should be quite good on a DSLR? greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread P. J. Alling
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 1:37 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Macro Lenses It has been said here quite a few times that the 50/1.7 is a better macro lens, but I don't think there was a 1.7 past the M or A series

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread J. C. O'Connell
lens macro kit, and if you go with three lenses, find a 35mm macro lens if you can. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Walters Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 7:20 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Macro Lenses I guess

RE: Macro Lenses

2007-03-13 Thread Markus Maurer
, 2007 2:34 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Macro Lenses Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I quite like the look of my 50 and 28 mm F series. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Macro lenses

2004-04-12 Thread Margus Männik
Hi, if i will get 100/3.5, I'll probably end up with 100/2.8 some day anyhow... I know myself. Our local Pentax dealer offered me all mentioned four for testing (I work for a local photo magazine time to time and therefore know those people). First I have to finish some urgent works and after

RE: Macro lenses

2004-04-08 Thread Alan Chan
The FA100/2.8 has appeared on eBay quite regularly so with a little patience, you might get a good price. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan the insect season is abot to begin... last yeaars I have used rather medium format for macro shots, but now there's a time to get good macro

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