Re: OT Striking a blow for cropping

2013-05-10 Thread Tim Bray
pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT Striking a blow for cropping I think the no cropping idea became popular when many photographers were shooting slide film. The same goes for a lot of the more restrictive get it right in the camera stuff. You didn't crop because you couldn't. So you got it right

Re: OT Striking a blow for cropping

2013-05-10 Thread Larry Colen
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT Striking a blow for cropping I think the no cropping idea became popular when many photographers were shooting slide film. The same goes for a lot of the more restrictive get it right in the camera stuff. You didn't crop because you

Re: OT Striking a blow for cropping

2013-05-10 Thread Eactivist
Ditto. I often shoot wider than what I want, just to be on the safe side and because the viewfinder does not show 100%. In a message dated 5/8/2013 7:00:07 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes: I crop 60 to 70% of my photos. I frequently shoot with the intention of

Re: OT Striking a blow for cropping

2013-05-09 Thread Tim Bray
I crop more or less 100%. -T On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: David Paul took the words right out of my mouth. I crop my photos with an eye toward potentially printing in a standard aspect ratio. I do take pains to preserve as much as possible, but I'm far

Re: OT Striking a blow for cropping

2013-05-09 Thread George Sinos
I think the no cropping idea became popular when many photographers were shooting slide film. The same goes for a lot of the more restrictive get it right in the camera stuff. You didn't crop because you couldn't. So you got it right in the camera. gs George Sinos

Re: OT Striking a blow for cropping

2013-05-09 Thread Alan C
pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT Striking a blow for cropping I think the no cropping idea became popular when many photographers were shooting slide film. The same goes for a lot of the more restrictive get it right in the camera stuff. You didn't crop because you couldn't. So you got it right

Re: OT Striking a blow for cropping

2013-05-09 Thread P.J. Alling
35mm and strangely enough 8x10 and larger formats were the impetus for the no cropping movement in photography, 35mm because quality really began to suffer, when cropping, due to it's limited real estate and really extreme magnification at viewable sizes. Large formats were usually printed as

Re: OT Striking a blow for cropping

2013-05-09 Thread P.J. Alling
Which is what the photoshop clone tool is for... On 5/8/2013 10:02 PM, David Parsons wrote: If you do any kind of portraiture, you quickly learn to frame loose and plan on cropping. There's nothing worse than taking a group shot and realizing that you can't crop it to 8x10. On Wed, May 8,

Re: OT Striking a blow for cropping

2013-05-09 Thread Paul Sorenson
It is said that Walker Evans cropped by trimming the negs to the crop he wanted. Then that was the only way the neg could be printed and still retain his vision of what the image should be. -p On 5/9/2013 8:11 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: 35mm and strangely enough 8x10 and larger formats were the

Re: OT Striking a blow for cropping

2013-05-09 Thread John Sessoms
From: George Sinos I think the no cropping idea became popular when many photographers were shooting slide film. The same goes for a lot of the more restrictive get it right in the camera stuff. You didn't crop because you couldn't. So you got it right in the camera. I wonder how much of it

Re: OT Striking a blow for cropping

2013-05-09 Thread Bruce Walker
Even handier: Content Aware Fill. I have increased the image borders on a number of good shots now just using CAF. Great if you didn't have a wide enough or high enough backdrop. On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 9:12 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Which is what the photoshop clone tool

Re: OT Striking a blow for cropping

2013-05-09 Thread Bob W
I think there are really two origins to this idea. First, Magnum was established as a photographers' cooperative to give the members control over the way their photos were used, including being able to impose a condition on publication so that photo editors couldn't ruin a picture by cropping

RE: OT Striking a blow for cropping

2013-05-08 Thread Gerrit Visser
I was recently reminded of the benefits of cropping while letting Picasa does its face recognition thing on 89,000+ photos/scans. The faces recognition crops of my wife showed an incredible range of expressions over the many years I have know her. Were I to look at the source photos, those

Re: OT Striking a blow for cropping

2013-05-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
I crop 60 to 70% of my photos. I frequently shoot with the intention of cropping at least a small amount. Better to leave a bit too much than a bit too little. Paul On May 8, 2013, at 8:09 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Scroll down in this article and have a look at three

Re: OT Striking a blow for cropping

2013-05-08 Thread David Parsons
If you do any kind of portraiture, you quickly learn to frame loose and plan on cropping. There's nothing worse than taking a group shot and realizing that you can't crop it to 8x10. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I crop 60 to 70% of my photos. I

Re: OT Striking a blow for cropping

2013-05-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
The author's Kingfisher photos are all rather poor, both cropped and not. On May 8, 2013, at 8:09 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Scroll down in this article and have a look at three famous images before and after cropping to their published form. Amazing, especially the

Re: OT Striking a blow for cropping

2013-05-08 Thread Walt
David Paul took the words right out of my mouth. I crop my photos with an eye toward potentially printing in a standard aspect ratio. I do take pains to preserve as much as possible, but I'm far less concerned about drawing hoots from pixel-peepers than I am about presenting the shot in its