Not withstanding the fact that the everything better claim doesn't sell very
well, it has been my experience that digital has not reduced employment --- and
almost always in the short to medium term increase staffing. I seldom find in
administrative areas that there are any staff reductions
Beware not to confuse digital with electronical or mechanical. My MX is
mechanical, an MZ-S is electronical, but none of them are digital.
I guess a 100% digital automobile for instance would have a driving software
running on and replacing the usual tasks of the driver (turning, accelerating,
On Thursday, October 3, 2002, at 10:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
While mechanical/electronical machines reduces our needs of pure human
work
(like in industry or farming) digital avoids us to think and to take
decisions.
Therefore I think a huge difference is to be stated between
Pål Jensen wrote:
Apparently, this years Pentax photokina delegation was among the largest
ever including the boss and heaps of engineers. Weird, considering they
had nothing to show. However, it turns out that they indeed showed a LOT
but behind closed doors locked in a large safe (no I'm
Pal wrote: The Pentax booth was arranged by the German Pentax distributor, not Pentax
Japan, but a Pentax Japan delegation was present. This is of course a bit strange.
Not at all strange and no different than in years past: Pentax Germany has always (at
least for the last 12 years) made the
on 10/01/02 9:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
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WHAT ABOUT THE FOOT POWDER?
Cameron
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 20:00:11 +0200
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Pentax at Photokina
Message-ID:
Yes,
Let us travel to Photokina. Let us pay exspenses for shipping
people, materials, security and supplies. Let us put it in a locked
safe and show no one outside of our own company. Let us waste more
money that could be used to turn around this bloated wasteball of a
company that
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Subject: Re: Pentax at Photokina
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Yes,
Let us travel to Photokina. Let us pay exspenses for shipping
people
Digital makes EVERYTHING better!
I am native I know. But digital does not make things better. Just look at
the unemployment rate all over the world due to computing automation. As far
as I can see, computers are here to take over our jobs. :(
regards,
Alan Chan
Hi Alan,
In my industry and business in general, the computer revolution has
created more jobs. If there is a shift, like on-line banking or buying on
line, it is where the customer replaces the clerk.
I wonder what the employment numbers in IT are now? Considering there
was no such
One thing I have learned about Pentax is they sneak
things onto market and don't blow their horns. I have
a feeling IS 645 lenses are on their way.
--- Pål_Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some interesting(?) tidbits from the Pentax universe
Apparently, this years Pentax photokina delegation
It doesn't sound very plausible.
Pål Jensen wrote:
Some interesting(?) tidbits from the Pentax universe
Apparently, this years Pentax photokina delegation was among the largest ever
including the boss and heaps of engineers. Weird, considering they had nothing to
show. However, it turns
Brendan wrote:
One thing I have learned about Pentax is they sneak
things onto market and don't blow their horns. I have
a feeling IS 645 lenses are on their way.
I don't believe we'll see IS lens for MF until it has been used in Pentax 35mm gear
for years. Pentax ususally destill
Daniel wrote:
It doesn't sound very plausible.
Why not? It's very common. All manufacturers do this. Photokina is the biggest meeting
place between the manufacturer sand their distributors. This gives an opportunity to
discuss and show products with engineers present. They receive valuable
On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, [iso-8859-1] Pål Jensen wrote:
I don't believe we'll see IS lens for MF until it has been used in Pentax 35mm gear
for years. Pentax ususally destill features into their MF gear after 35mm has paid
for it.
Wouldn't it make more sense, though, since film is already assumed
Now this is the stuff I'm talking about, good going Pal! I had to go back
and check to see who the sender was. It looks just like news from the cave.
DG
At 08:00 PM 10/1/02 +0200, you wrote:
Some interesting(?) tidbits from the Pentax universe
Apparently, this years Pentax photokina
On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 21:33, dick graham wrote:
Now this is the stuff I'm talking about, good going Pal! I had to go back
and check to see who the sender was. It looks just like news from the cave.
It's that damn' caveman again, faking my e-mail address.
cheers,
Pal
;-)
HAHAHAHA :-) actually Val you need to rerelease some
of those tales from the cave for the newbies again.
Valentin Donisa wrote:On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 21:33,
dick graham wrote: Now this is the stuff I'm talking
about, good going Pal! I had to go back and check to
see who the sender was. It
Gfen wrote:
Wouldn't it make more sense, though, since film is already assumed to be
dead by your average consumer in the US and Europe, but its still got a
ways to go to MF and pro usage.
Again, I'm not Pentax scholar, or business scholar, but it seems like
there's a wide open market,
I had heard that it might go down that way, but I was under the
impression some info would be leaked regarding the DSLR.
Whatever.
tv
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From: Daniel J. Matyola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
It doesn't sound very plausible.
Pål Jensen wrote:
Some interesting(?)
And entertainment was provided by Elvis, who jumped out of the safe.
Oh yes, they are also digital selling bridges.
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Some interesting(?) tidbits from the Pentax universe
I have no idea about the contents of this safe is but it's
On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, [iso-8859-1] Pål Jensen wrote:
It certainly is a perfect power source for IS. BTW The more
conspiratory among us can perhaps figure out if Pentax made changes to
the 645 lens mount to provide for IS when they upgraded the 645N to
the 645NII.
Alrighty then, gearheads, get
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From: gfen
Subject: Re: Pentax at Photokina
Wouldn't it make more sense, though, since film is already
assumed to be
dead by your average consumer in the US and Europe, but its
still got a
ways to go to MF and pro usage.
Film is far from considered to be dead
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From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax at Photokina
OR have they been told not to talk about
cameras and lenses too much, and let a secret get out? I dunno...but it
was
strange.
I don't think Pentax would keep things so strictly secret
Pentax has always been very silent about new products until
the actual release.
Antti-Pekka
At 14:23 13.9.2002 +0200, you wrote:
I don't think Pentax would keep things so strictly secret if it was going to
do some breakthrough (like, say, IS or USM) - it would rather be to its
advantage from
Oh ya forgotI could see a new brand of digital binoculars that Pentax
already has using the IS :) Good thing I didn't buy one, or I'd be pissed!
:)
Brad Dobo
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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002
: Brad Dobo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 12 September 2002 16:00
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax at Photokina - where to watch?
Yes, I'd like to know that as well. I hear they are putting
the IS and USM into their amazing new zoom spotting scopes
only. Or is it the new
A good, general, imaging news site is here: http://www.photointer.com
Make sure you look at statistics here:
http://www.photointer.com/pageset/Statistics1.html
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In anticipation of Photokina, where would listers recommend to keep an
eye on? Are there any decent news
Introducing the new Pentax 'Rose-tinted spectacles'!!!
What do you mean, new? I already have several pairs. Why is it that
Brighton is forever Sunny?
Actually it is, today.
Peter
Once again, Pentax is behind the curve. Nikon, Canon and Leica have had
rose-tinted spectacles for years.
At 01:04 PM 9/12/02 -0400, you wrote:
Introducing the new Pentax 'Rose-tinted spectacles'!!!
Hi,
one can also try at:
http://www.genyosha.com/index.html
and click on Latest news. Normally this are subscribed pages, but before
major events they offer free user names and passwords. This days before
Photokina as well, ID and password being 0266 like it stands on the page.
Cao, Matjaz
Dick wrote:
I must have missed the rumor about Pentax making some big news at
Photokina, probably Pal's info. Could you repeat it?
Don't blame it on me! The fuzz is due to the fact that someone posted recent Pentax
patents on a new KAF3 lens mount that take USM and IS lenses. Some
You are right, of course...
Perhaps Pentax will have the first full-frame ones?
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From: Doug Brewer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 12 September 2002 18:28
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax at Photokina - where to watch?
Once again, Pentax is behind
I think the first part of option 2 is correct, but that doesn't mean
that major news will be shown - option 1 may still be correct!!
-Original Message-
From: Pål Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 12 September 2002 18:47
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax at Photokina
Have you guys seen this???
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0110/01102401pentaxdslrnomore.asp
-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 3:25 PM
To: Pentax List
Subject: RE: Pentax at Photokina - where to watch?
www.dpreview.com
http
Or this
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0102/01021106pentaxdigitalslr.asp
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From: Glen O'Neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 7:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Pentax at Photokina - where to watch?
Have you guys seen
On 12 Sep 2002 at 19:49, Glen O'Neal wrote:
Have you guys seen this???
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0110/01102401pentaxdslrnomore.asp
Yep, a little while ago :-)
Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT) +10 Hours
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/01102401pentaxdslrnomore.asp
-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 3:25 PM
To: Pentax List
Subject: RE: Pentax at Photokina - where to watch?
www.dpreview.com
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/index.php
www.pentax.de
www.pentax.com
I wonder what's Pentax' target market?
-frank
Glen O'Neal wrote:
Have you guys seen this???
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0110/01102401pentaxdslrnomore.asp
--
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer
-Original Message-
From: Pål Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 1:47 PM
Dick wrote:
I must have missed the rumor about Pentax making some big news at
Photokina, probably Pal's info. Could you repeat it?
Don't blame it on me! The fuzz is due to the
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Pentax at Photokina - where to watch?
Have you guys seen this???
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0110/01102401pentaxdslrnomore.asp
-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 3:25 PM
And I thought you just trying to revive it as a tourist destination. ;
At 01:04 PM 9/12/2002 -0400, you wrote:
Introducing the new Pentax 'Rose-tinted spectacles'!!!
What do you mean, new? I already have several pairs. Why is it that
Brighton is forever Sunny?
Actually it is, today.
Peter
Yes, old news.
At 07:49 PM 9/12/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Have you guys seen this???
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0110/01102401pentaxdslrnomore.asp
-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 3:25 PM
To: Pentax List
Subject: RE: Pentax
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