Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-14 Thread Christine Aguila
I’ll sixth that. Christine On Dec 12, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: I'll take a fifth. -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: Re: I was just thinking Fourthed Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-13 Thread Bob W
On 13 Dec 2013, at 05:31, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/12/2013 11:16 PM, David Mann wrote: On Dec 13, 2013, at 6:59 am, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah. I stick around to piss off Bob W. Better than pissing on him, I suppose. Depending on your point of view

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-13 Thread Bob W
On 13 Dec 2013, at 02:07, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com: On 12/12/2013 5:26 PM, Bob W wrote: On 12 Dec 2013, at 17:59, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/12/2013 10:33 AM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne wrote: Evangelise

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-13 Thread Yolanda Rowe
I thought he had a Pentax. Mark! Yonnie On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 2:33 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 13 Dec 2013, at 02:07, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com: On 12/12/2013 5:26 PM, Bob W wrote: On 12 Dec 2013, at 17:59, Bill

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Bob Sullivan
Collin, I'm not wishing too hard for a full frame body or a 645 with a big sensor. I think we have all enjoyed Jostein's marvelous photos, many with the big camera. But I also appreciate the care and effort he puts into getting those shots. He doesn't take great pictures BECAUSE he has the big

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread CollinB
Collin, I'm not wishing too hard for a full frame body or a 645 with a big sensor. I think we have all enjoyed Jostein's marvelous photos, many with the big camera. But I also appreciate the care and effort he puts into getting those shots. He doesn't take great pictures BECAUSE he has the big

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Darren Addy
The simplest and easist way to evangelize, if one wants to do it, is to frequent the other places that Pentax people hang out, make a sig line that points to the PDML, and post often enough in those places that people see the your sig and check the PDML out. The danger of doing that is possibly

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Bill
On 12/12/2013 10:19 AM, Darren Addy wrote: The simplest and easist way to evangelize, if one wants to do it, is to frequent the other places that Pentax people hang out, make a sig line that points to the PDML, and post often enough in those places that people see the your sig and check the PDML

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Walt
On 12/12/2013 10:27 AM, Bill wrote: On 12/12/2013 10:19 AM, Darren Addy wrote: The simplest and easist way to evangelize, if one wants to do it, is to frequent the other places that Pentax people hang out, make a sig line that points to the PDML, and post often enough in those places that

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/12/2013 10:27 AM, Bill wrote: On 12/12/2013 10:19 AM, Darren Addy wrote: The simplest and easist way to evangelize, if one wants to do it, is to frequent the other places that Pentax people hang out, make a sig line that points to the PDML, and post often

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne
Evangelise for the sake of increasing the PDML's value as a market place?!? Well, we stick around for different kicks, I suppose. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: CollinB Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 3:15 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: I was just thinking Not long ago there

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne
Oh my! You're too kind Bob! Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- From: Bob Sullivan Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 4:41 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: I was just thinking Collin, I'm not wishing too hard for a full frame body or a 645 with a big sensor. I think we have all

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Darren Addy
Well, I agree. I have no vested interest in artificially inflating the ranks of PDML readers, let alone participants. I tend to think that things like listservs should grow (or die) organically. That being said, the PDML doesn't have the market cornered on good imagery created with Pentax

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Walt
It's just the costs seem to grow so much more according to scale than the benefits. -- Walt On 12/12/2013 10:45 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Well, I agree. I have no vested interest in artificially inflating the ranks of PDML readers, let alone participants. I tend to think that things like

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele
What Bill said ann On 12/12/2013 11:29, Walt wrote: On 12/12/2013 10:27 AM, Bill wrote: On 12/12/2013 10:19 AM, Darren Addy wrote: The simplest and easist way to evangelize, if one wants to do it, is to frequent the other places that Pentax people hang out, make a sig line that points to the

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread CollinB
Evangelise for the sake of increasing the PDML's value as a market place?!? Well, we stick around for different kicks, I suppose. Jostein Perhaps I tied symptom/cure too tightly. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Bill
On 12/12/2013 10:33 AM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne wrote: Evangelise for the sake of increasing the PDML's value as a market place?!? There is that. Pentax Forums is a much better marketplace if that is your interest. Well, we stick around for different kicks, I suppose. Yeah. I stick

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Bill
On 12/12/2013 10:45 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Well, I agree. I have no vested interest in artificially inflating the ranks of PDML readers, let alone participants. I tend to think that things like listservs should grow (or die) organically. That being said, the PDML doesn't have the market

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread CollinB
You should have been here 10 years ago if you think I'm perpetrating insults these days. I tend to not suffer fools in silence, so if I've insulted you, you know why. bill Learned my lesson about the same time. Never start a thread about the evils of s?ism. Got some people riled up. Won't

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Jack Davis
Yeah..me too. Jack - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 9:28 AM Subject: Re: I was just thinking What Bill said ann On 12/12/2013 11:29, Walt wrote: On 12/12/2013 10:27 AM, Bill

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Boris Liberman
Fourthed Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On December 12, 2013 6:32:21 PM Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/12/2013 10:27 AM, Bill wrote: On 12/12/2013 10:19 AM, Darren Addy wrote: The simplest and easist way to

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Actually I think it got up to six now (I screwed up the tally buy just saying what Bill said and that could be dangerous in itself, come to think about it!) ann On 12/12/2013 13:31, Boris Liberman wrote: Fourthed Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On December 12,

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Kenneth Waller
I'll take a fifth. -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: Re: I was just thinking Fourthed Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On December 12, 2013 6:32:21 PM Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Walt ldott...@gmail.com

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 09:15:01AM -0500, CollinB wrote: Not long ago there was a thread about how so many of us have the lenses we need so the buying and selling on Friday seems less productive than in years past. Makes me think that we need to look for some new blood in the group. Shall we

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Bob W
On 12 Dec 2013, at 18:14, CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: You should have been here 10 years ago if you think I'm perpetrating insults these days. I tend to not suffer fools in silence, so if I've insulted you, you know why. bill Learned my lesson about the same time. Never

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Bob W
On 12 Dec 2013, at 17:59, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/12/2013 10:33 AM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne wrote: Evangelise for the sake of increasing the PDML's value as a market place?!? There is that. Pentax Forums is a much better marketplace if that is your interest.

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Bill
On 12/12/2013 5:26 PM, Bob W wrote: On 12 Dec 2013, at 17:59, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/12/2013 10:33 AM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne wrote: Evangelise for the sake of increasing the PDML's value as a market place?!? There is that. Pentax Forums is a much better marketplace

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:26:48PM +, Bob W wrote: On 12 Dec 2013, at 17:59, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/12/2013 10:33 AM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne wrote: Evangelise for the sake of increasing the PDML's value as a market place?!? There is that. Pentax Forums is

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Rob Studdert
Heck the list will do what it will do, I've brought a few people in over the years but not many stayed, the delivery format and content doesn't suite most people these days. Let's face it if you want to discuss gear there are plenty of other places to go that offer far more depth and if you want

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread J.C. O'Connell
Magazine covers are still verticals... On 12/12/2013 7:40 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: Heck the list will do what it will do, I've brought a few people in over the years but not many stayed, the delivery format and content doesn't suite most people these days. Let's face it if you want to discuss

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Bruce Walker
True dat, but magazines are something of a dying breed. I very often have to consider shooting landscape where I would have ordinarily shot portrait -- like for a portrait :-) -- because I know that my wife is going to add the shot to one of her video productions. I suspect that's happening more

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com: On 12/12/2013 5:26 PM, Bob W wrote: On 12 Dec 2013, at 17:59, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/12/2013 10:33 AM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne wrote: Evangelise for the sake of increasing the PDML's value as a market place?!? There is

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:26:48PM +, Bob W wrote: On 12 Dec 2013, at 17:59, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/12/2013 10:33 AM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne wrote: Evangelise for the sake of increasing the PDML's value as a market

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread David Mann
On Dec 13, 2013, at 6:59 am, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah. I stick around to piss off Bob W. Better than pissing on him, I suppose. Depending on your point of view :) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: I was just thinking

2013-12-12 Thread Bill
On 12/12/2013 11:16 PM, David Mann wrote: On Dec 13, 2013, at 6:59 am, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah. I stick around to piss off Bob W. Better than pissing on him, I suppose. Depending on your point of view :) Depending on his point of view, maybe, maybe not. bill --