Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-22 Thread Boris Liberman
On 3/22/2011 6:08 AM, Brian Walters wrote: Yes, there is parental pride there but he's a much better photographer than I am and I don't want him to get a swelled head! Purely theoretically, you can apply a judicious amount of belt to his rear end, so as to balance the head swelling. But then

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
An excellent shot and a very creative concept. Paul On Mar 22, 2011, at 1:56 AM, Brian Walters wrote: On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 00:20 -0400, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Ah but does he shoot Pentax??? :-) Yes and no. I think the cover was shot with his *istDL. He also has a K20D

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
I don't have an iPhone but they must be better than I think as a camera because what I see is just not as bad as I expect. At least they seem better than the BBs. On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 00:20 -0400, Ann Sanfedele

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread Boris Liberman
On 3/21/2011 4:46 AM, mike wilson wrote: Wait until your child picks up your camera and produces superb pictures with it. It's a whole new world of pain and humiliation. Nope. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread eckinator
2011/3/21 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: On 3/21/2011 4:46 AM, mike wilson wrote: Wait until your child picks up your camera and produces superb pictures with it. It's a whole new world of pain and humiliation. Nope. Only because your name isn't Smokey =P BTW can anyone recommend a

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread mike wilson
On 21/03/2011, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/3/21 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: On 3/21/2011 4:46 AM, mike wilson wrote: Wait until your child picks up your camera and produces superb pictures with it. It's a whole new world of pain and humiliation. Nope. Only because your

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread Boris Liberman
On 3/21/2011 11:56 AM, eckinator wrote: BTW can anyone recommend a camera for a 3yo? Easy. Any waterproof/shockproof camera with lens that does not come out. If it gets dirty, you'd simply wash it under tap water. Additionally, the kid will have to learn to hold it so that their fingers

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread eckinator
2011/3/21 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Easy. Any waterproof/shockproof camera with lens that does not come out. If it gets dirty, you'd simply wash it under tap water. Additionally, the kid will have to learn to hold it so that their fingers won't obscure the lens. Galia's first camera

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:48 +0200, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/21/2011 4:46 AM, mike wilson wrote: Wait until your child picks up your camera and produces superb pictures with it. It's a whole new world of pain and humiliation. Nope. Yup! The little twerp just scored the

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com Well, you're no Bill Robb... Yes, he is. F**k you, too. cheers, frank ;-) -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread Boris Liberman
On 3/21/2011 1:32 PM, eckinator wrote: 2011/3/21 Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com: Easy. Any waterproof/shockproof camera with lens that does not come out. If it gets dirty, you'd simply wash it under tap water. Additionally, the kid will have to learn to hold it so that their fingers won't

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 March 2011 22:32, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: you mean I have an excuse to buy a successor for the WP I gave to Mum Dad??? My little guy has the W20, great kid cam, just wash it under the tap to get all the mud, grass and spit off it. -- Rob Studdert (Digital  Image Studio)

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Nice image;  quite an impressive achievement. Dan On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:48 +0200, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Nice image; quite an impressive achievement. Dan On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:48 +0200, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/21/2011 4:46 AM, mike wilson wrote: Wait until your child picks up your camera and

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread Charles Robinson
On Mar 20, 2011, at 7:42, Bob W wrote: On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:34 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I'm certainly not going to suggest some ridiculous rule that limits permissible subjects on this list, but I've noticed a trend for threads on various topics to rapidly devolve to the point that the

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Mar 20, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: frank theriault wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote: You're wrong. ;) F**k you. cheers, frank, defending his right to

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread Bong Manayon
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 5:56 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: Only because your name isn't Smokey =P BTW can anyone recommend a camera for a 3yo? My mom handed me my dad's Petri 7s when I was three years old; I would not see another camera until I was five... -- Bong Manayon

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread Scott Loveless
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:38 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com Well, you're no Bill Robb... Yes, he is. F**k you, too. knarfknarfknarf -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/     __o

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread Scott Loveless
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 March 2011 22:32, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: you mean I have an excuse to buy a successor for the WP I gave to Mum Dad??? My little guy has the W20, great kid cam, just wash it under the tap to

RE: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread Bob W
I'm certainly not going to suggest some ridiculous rule that limits permissible subjects on this list, but I've noticed a trend for threads on various topics to rapidly devolve to the point that the produce heat, but no light. Lets face it, if you haven't convinced someone of your

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread Eric Weir
On Mar 21, 2011, at 2:14 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: About a year and a half ago we gave our oldest (6 at the time) a WS80. Her grandparents were taking her on a grand adventure to Hawaii and we wanted to be sure she could take pictures absolutely anywhere. It went to the beach every day. It

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/3/11, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: My little guy has the W20, great kid cam, just wash it under the tap to get all the mud, grass and spit off it. I should consider this camera. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche --

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Mar 20, 2011, at 11:45 , eckinator wrote: I'm about as deep down in the all my photos are crap stage as one can get... Lookin' up at ya!! Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com Gaudeamus igitur, juvenes dum sumus... http://tinyurl.com/ndmfhb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Mar 21, 2011, at 02:56 , eckinator wrote: 2011/3/21 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: On 3/21/2011 4:46 AM, mike wilson wrote: Wait until your child picks up your camera and produces superb pictures with it. It's a whole new world of pain and humiliation. Nope. Only because your

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread eckinator
2011/3/22 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com: BTW can anyone recommend a camera for a 3yo? Nikon or Canon, any model. So D3x is actually short for Digital for any 3 year old then? And D300s is one that can be used by hundreds of them? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread John Sessoms
Believe it or not, I really *DO* try to stay out of the OT political threads. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele
You are speaking of your twerp? Very nice shot ... lets get with the parental pride here, Brian ann Brian Walters wrote: On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:48 +0200, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/21/2011 4:46 AM, mike wilson wrote: Wait until your child picks up your camera and

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:16 -0400, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: You are speaking of your twerp? Very nice shot ... lets get with the parental pride here, Brian I suppose 'little' wasn't the correct adjective. He's 36, but he'll always be a 'little twerp' to me Yes, there is

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Ah but does he shoot Pentax??? :-) anyway its a lovely cover ann Brian Walters wrote: On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:16 -0400, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: You are speaking of your twerp? Very nice shot ... lets get with the parental pride here, Brian I suppose 'little' wasn't

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-21 Thread Brian Walters
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 00:20 -0400, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Ah but does he shoot Pentax??? :-) Yes and no. I think the cover was shot with his *istDL. He also has a K20D but his kit includes a couple of Panasonics, a Fuji and (sigh, where have I failed?) an iPhone, which seems

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-20 Thread Larry Colen
On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:34 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I'm certainly not going to suggest some ridiculous rule that limits permissible subjects on this list, but I've noticed a trend for threads on various topics to rapidly devolve to the point that the produce heat, but no light. Lets face it,

RE: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-20 Thread Bob W
On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:34 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I'm certainly not going to suggest some ridiculous rule that limits permissible subjects on this list, but I've noticed a trend for threads on various topics to rapidly devolve to the point that the produce heat, but no light. Lets face it,

RE: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-20 Thread Bob W
On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:34 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I'm certainly not going to suggest some ridiculous rule that limits permissible subjects on this list, but I've noticed a trend for threads on various topics to rapidly devolve to the point that the produce heat, but no light. Lets face it,

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-20 Thread Boris Liberman
On 3/20/2011 2:34 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I'm certainly not going to suggest some ridiculous rule that limits permissible subjects on this list, but I've noticed a trend for threads on various topics to rapidly devolve to the point that the produce heat, but no light. Lets face it, if you

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-20 Thread Steven Desjardins
You know, guys, it's very important for my personal entertainment hat this thread develop into a heated and irrational argument. I'm just sayin'. On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/20/2011 2:34 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I'm certainly not going to

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-20 Thread Boris Liberman
On 3/20/2011 3:58 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: You know, guys, it's very important for my personal entertainment hat this thread develop into a heated and irrational argument. I'm just sayin'. I am sorry to disappoint you, Steve. You see, I meant it as a passing joke, whereas Larry, as he

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-20 Thread Eric Weir
On Mar 20, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Larry Colen wrote: And as soon as I post the above, I see the following link: http://twentytwowords.com/2011/03/15/a-flowchart-to-help-you-determine-if-youre-having-a-rational-discussion/ Good to have in mind, but I'm glad it's not the rule. As the first commenter

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-20 Thread Cory Waters
You're wrong. ;) CW On 3/20/2011 8:34 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I'm certainly not going to suggest some ridiculous rule that limits permissible subjects on this list, but I've noticed a trend for threads on various topics to rapidly devolve to the point that the produce heat, but no light. Lets

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-20 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote: You're wrong. ;) F**k you. cheers, frank, defending his right to be a curmudgeon, especially on this list ;-) -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-20 Thread drd1135
Now we're talking. -Original Message- From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:57:29 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Off Topic thread limit? On Sun, Mar

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-20 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote: You're wrong. ;) F**k you. cheers, frank, defending his right to be a curmudgeon, especially on this list ;-) Well, you're no Bill Robb... -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-20 Thread eckinator
Larry, all I can say is I've yet to see a single thread on this list that doesn't stop by itself - they all end eventually. and the signal to noise ratio and signal quality on this list are among the best I've seen. in fact PDML is my only list for precisely that reason and I value the opinion of

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-20 Thread Larry Colen
On Mar 20, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: frank theriault wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote: You're wrong. ;) F**k you. cheers, frank, defending his right to be a curmudgeon, especially on this list ;-) Well, you're no

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-20 Thread eckinator
David W. Robbs? Sounds good to me! 2011/3/20 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: On Mar 20, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: frank theriault wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote: You're wrong. ;) F**k you. cheers, frank, defending his

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-20 Thread AlunFoto
2011/3/20 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com: Larry, all I can say is I've yet to see a single thread on this list that doesn't stop by itself - they all end eventually. Interestingly, the only thread I can remember that virtually went on forever was one about marmots. Sometime in the previous

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-20 Thread Ann Sanfedele
AlunFoto wrote: 2011/3/20 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com: Larry, all I can say is I've yet to see a single thread on this list that doesn't stop by itself - they all end eventually. Interestingly, the only thread I can remember that virtually went on forever was one about marmots.

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-20 Thread eckinator
2011/3/20 Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: Interestingly, the only thread I can remember that virtually went on forever was one about marmots. Sometime in the previous millennium you mean when they groundhogged the list ?? I remember that thread and you're both wrong. It only lasted for

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-20 Thread AlunFoto
Don't think you were around for that circus, Ecke. It was probably in -96 or -97. I remember being a bit annoyed about having to download all that rubbish over my precious 14400 modem link. IIRC, Doug Brewer and Mark Roberts were two of the more notorious thread prolongers. It also had me

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-20 Thread eckinator
2011/3/20 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com: Don't think you were around for that circus, Ecke. I definitely wasn't. I was justlookingfor an excuse for a groundhog day movie reference -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-20 Thread Scott Loveless
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: frank theriault wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote: You're wrong. ;) F**k you. cheers, frank, defending his right to be a curmudgeon, especially on this list ;-) Well,

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-20 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 March 2011 05:45, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: I'm about as deep down in the all my photos are crap stage as one can get... Bugga off, that's my spot. ;-) -- Rob Studdert (Digital  Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa:

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-20 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 01:09:31PM +1100, Rob Studdert wrote: On 21 March 2011 05:45, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: I'm about as deep down in the all my photos are crap stage as one can get... Bugga off, that's my spot. You claim exclusive rights to call eckinator's photos crap?

Re: Off Topic thread limit?

2011-03-20 Thread mike wilson
On 20/03/2011 19:45, eckinator wrote: Larry, all I can say is I've yet to see a single thread on this list that doesn't stop by itself - they all end eventually. and the signal to noise ratio and signal quality on this list are among the best I've seen. in fact PDML is my only list for precisely