Re: Re: hypothetical enablement

2008-08-23 Thread Jens
Yep, but wait annother year, so I can justify buying one - remember, I got married :-) Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Aug 23, 2008 10:16 "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 23/8/08, Jens, discombobulated, unleashed: > >I second that, Godfrey, excep

Re: hypothetical enablement

2008-08-23 Thread P. J. Alling
At least you'll get plenty of fiber in your diet. Cotty wrote: > On 23/8/08, Jens, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >> I second that, Godfrey, except that I suspect Pentax will go full frame >> some day soon. That seems to be a natural step in the not too >> farefuture. So 24x36 lenses may not b

Re: hypothetical enablement

2008-08-23 Thread David Mann
On Aug 23, 2008, at 8:16 PM, Cotty wrote: > Hey Jens... > > Going by the array of cutlery it looks like the hat is only the first course! The Chateau Napkin looks like a tasty drop too. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.

Re: hypothetical enablement

2008-08-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/8/08, Jens, discombobulated, unleashed: >I second that, Godfrey, except that I suspect Pentax will go full frame >some day soon. That seems to be a natural step in the not too >farefuture. So 24x36 lenses may not be such a bad idea after all. Hey Jens...

Re: Re: hypothetical enablement

2008-08-22 Thread Jens
I second that, Godfrey, except that I suspect Pentax will go full frame some day soon. That seems to be a natural step in the not too farefuture. So 24x36 lenses may not be such a bad idea after all. Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Aug 22, 2008 22:42 "Godfrey

Re: Re: hypothetical enablement

2008-08-22 Thread Jens
The choise would depend on what you plan to potograph. If you do a lot of portraits and close-ups, the 77mm ist the better choise. If you do a lot of landscape, you should go for the 31mm. I certainly have used the 77mm the most. For portraits and flowers. They are both fine lenses, but my need

Re: hypothetical enablement

2008-08-22 Thread Boris Liberman
77... Scott Loveless wrote: > Let's say that someone wants a 31LTD and a 77LTD, but right now they > have money for just one of them. If you were they, which would you buy? > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: hypothetical enablement

2008-08-22 Thread Fernando
I'd go for the 31 as well, think about it this way: you know you will end up getting both, if you buy the more expensive now, it will be easier to justify the expenditure of the other one earlier (I know I did that...) On 8/22/08, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scott Loveless wrote: > >

Re: hypothetical enablement

2008-08-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Scott Loveless" Subject: hypothetical enablement > Let's say that someone wants a 31LTD and a 77LTD, but right now they > have money for just one of them. If you were they, which would you buy? I'd buy the 77. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

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2008-08-22 Thread Bong Manayon
*I* want a 77... Bong On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's say that someone wants a 31LTD and a 77LTD, but right now they > have money for just one of them. If you were they, which would you buy? > > -- > Scott (can't afford either right now) Loveles

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2008-08-22 Thread P. J. Alling
I see disaster ahead... Cotty wrote: > On 22/8/08, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >> Let's say that someone wants a 31LTD and a 77LTD, but right now they >> have money for just one of them. If you were they, which would you buy? >> > > 31-77 LTD zoom. > > -- > > > Cheers,

Re: hypothetical enablement

2008-08-22 Thread David Savage
If shooting mainly digital: 77mm If shooting mainly film: 31mm Cheers, Dave 2008/8/23 Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Let's say that someone wants a 31LTD and a 77LTD, but right now they > have money for just one of them. If you were they, which would you buy? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Ma

Re: hypothetical enablement

2008-08-22 Thread AlunFoto
The 77 is indeed a desirable piece of optics. The 31 is also a desirable piece of optics. But then again, so is, apparently, the DA 35 macro. Then there is the good old FA 35... Of those three, the 31 is priced pretty much steeper than the others. So if I was they, I would ask myself if the 31 is w

Re: hypothetical enablement

2008-08-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/8/08, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: >Let's say that someone wants a 31LTD and a 77LTD, but right now they >have money for just one of them. If you were they, which would you buy? 31-77 LTD zoom. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: hypothetical enablement

2008-08-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
The 77mm Limited is awfully nice on film and the 31mm Limited is mounted on my K20D right now, very nice but I prefer the 77mm on film. The 77mm Limited and the FA35/2 would be my choice for the same price as the 31mm Limited. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Derby Chang <[EMAIL

Re: hypothetical enablement

2008-08-22 Thread Derby Chang
Scott Loveless wrote: > Let's say that someone wants a 31LTD and a 77LTD, but right now they > have money for just one of them. If you were they, which would you buy? > > I had the same dilemma. 77 was the winner. It was and is a pretty unique lens for it's combination of sharpness, size, an

Re: hypothetical enablement

2008-08-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Scott Loveless wrote: > Let's say that someone wants a 31LTD and a 77LTD, but right now they > have money for just one of them. If you were they, which would you buy? Depends on two things: 1 - What kind of photography you do. 2 - What lenses you already have. I'd probably go for the 31 and wa

Re: hypothetical enablement

2008-08-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 22, 2008, at 12:53 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: > Let's say that someone wants a 31LTD and a 77LTD, but right now they > have money for just one of them. If you were they, which would you > buy? 77. I liked that lens a lot more than the 31. Of course, on the DSLRs, the 31 is more useful

Re: hypothetical enablement

2008-08-22 Thread P. J. Alling
I do not yet own a K20D, so I can't rate it. I always found it to be superior on film and it's very nice on the *ist-D and Ds. Thibouille wrote: > BTW how would you rate your K30/2.8 performance on K10/K20 ? > I do not find much time to use mine and the K10 exposures problem with > K/M lenses is

Re: hypothetical enablement

2008-08-22 Thread Thibouille
BTW how would you rate your K30/2.8 performance on K10/K20 ? I do not find much time to use mine and the K10 exposures problem with K/M lenses is really annoying... BTW, I'd vote for the 77 ltd. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 10:15 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd vote for the 77 ltd.

Re: hypothetical enablement

2008-08-22 Thread P. J. Alling
I'd vote for the 77 ltd. If you're shooting film the 31mm ltd. is nice but there are lots, well a number of good Pentax lenses, (the Fa 28mm f2.8 and K 30mm f2.8 are very good, (I have the K 30mm), though a stop slower and a lot less expensive) at approximately that focal length. If you're sh

RE: hypothetical enablement

2008-08-22 Thread John Whittingham
I'd second that. John From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 August 2008 21:02 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: hypothetical enablement The 77. The 31's nice but the 35/2 is a close

Re: hypothetical enablement

2008-08-22 Thread Adam Maas
The 77. The 31's nice but the 35/2 is a close second and can be bought along with the 77 for less than the 31 alone. -Adam On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's say that someone wants a 31LTD and a 77LTD, but right now they > have money for just one of