Re: Samples from DA14/2.8!

2004-06-09 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 09.06.04 1:34, Rob Studdert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, everyone knows that in camera sharpening even on the highest setting does practically nothing. All the image settings in camera make very slight changes actually, and the sharpness is the most slight of them all.

Re: Samples from DA14/2.8!

2004-06-09 Thread Lon Williamson
There are a few web pages showing people doing just that. Many even attempt to clean the scanner's mirror. Me, I ain't got the nerve. Andre Langevin wrote Dust ON the film sure is a problem with scaners but has dust inside the scanner ever been pointed as part of that problem? If so, would it be

Re: Samples from DA14/2.8!

2004-06-09 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
RS Herein lies the key to our differences in the perception of what's sharp and RS what's not I guess. Did you notice that all the images were made with the RS contrast on hard, the saturation high and the sharpening on hard? Even RS discounting the CA they are dreadful examples IMHO. Well,

Samples from DA14/2.8!

2004-06-08 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
They are already here: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/35mm/ist-d/ex.html -- Best Regards Sylwek

Re: Samples from DA14/2.8!

2004-06-08 Thread Rob Studdert
On 8 Jun 2004 at 14:59, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: on 08.06.04 14:49, Rob Studdert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering it's a dedicated digital only lens I'm quite surprised that the chromatic aberrations are still not great at the edges and both images were shot at f8. Well, they

Re: Samples from DA14/2.8!

2004-06-08 Thread Rob Studdert
On 8 Jun 2004 at 15:14, Dr. Heiko Hamann wrote: I don't have any ultra-wide-angle comparison, but I would have expected less distortion (first picture) for a digital optimized prime lens. Look at the vertron building on the right - seems as it will fall over soon. Really strange... Or am I

Re: Samples from DA14/2.8!

2004-06-08 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 08.06.04 15:21, Rob Studdert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Herein lies the key to our differences in the perception of what's sharp and what's not I guess. Did you notice that all the images were made with the contrast on hard, the saturation high and the sharpening on hard? Even discounting

Re: Samples from DA14/2.8!

2004-06-08 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 08.06.04 15:37, Sylwester Pietrzyk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, indeed, I didn't noticed this, now I can see this in Photo Browser. But I wrote seems' as we don't have samples from other lenses made in the same place and identical parameters to compare with... Well, anyway it is stupid.

Re: Samples from DA14/2.8!

2004-06-08 Thread Dr. Heiko Hamann
Hi Rob, on 08 Jun 04 you wrote in pentax.list: That's just natural perspective distortion as the lens was pointed downwards, it could have been largely avoided if the shot was set up more skilfully. Thanks Rob, that calms me down ;-) Cheers, Heiko

RE: Samples from DA14/2.8!

2004-06-08 Thread Shawn K.
- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 8:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Samples from DA14/2.8! On 8 Jun 2004 at 14:07, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: They are already here: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/35mm/ist-d/ex.html Considering it's

RE: Samples from DA14/2.8!

2004-06-08 Thread Shawn K.
actually, and the sharpness is the most slight of them all. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 9:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Samples from DA14/2.8! On 8 Jun 2004 at 14:59, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote

Re[2]: Samples from DA14/2.8!

2004-06-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
: Samples from DA14/2.8! SK On 8 Jun 2004 at 14:07, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: They are already here: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/35mm/ist-d/ex.html SK Considering it's a dedicated digital only lens I'm quite surprised that the SK chromatic aberrations are still not great at the edges

RE: Re[2]: Samples from DA14/2.8!

2004-06-08 Thread Rob Brigham
Perhaps Pentax need to do an IR scan of the sensor surface and try to do some ICE work - LOL! Man, that would be cool though... -Original Message- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 June 2004 20:14 To: Shawn K. Subject: Re[2]: Samples from DA14/2.8! Yeah

Re[2]: Samples from DA14/2.8!

2004-06-08 Thread Andre Langevin
After having scanned about a thousand rolls, I can tell you that the dust on the sensor feels like a bit less of a problem than the film damage. Bruce Dust ON the film sure is a problem with scaners but has dust inside the scanner ever been pointed as part of that problem? If so, would it be

RE: Re[2]: Samples from DA14/2.8!

2004-06-08 Thread Shawn K.
PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 3:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re[2]: Samples from DA14/2.8! After having scanned about a thousand rolls, I can tell you that the dust on the sensor feels like a bit less of a problem than the film damage. Bruce Dust ON the film sure is a problem

RE: Samples from DA14/2.8!

2004-06-08 Thread Rob Studdert
On 8 Jun 2004 at 14:03, Shawn K. wrote: I have to disagree with you here Rob. The 16-45 has CA problems worse than this that I've seen, so it doesn't surprise me, especially since this lens is 14mm, and that alone is a difficult thing to accomplish... I'm not so sure. The difficulty in

Re: Samples from DA14/2.8!

2004-06-08 Thread William Robb
One of the little bits of wisdom I have picked up along the way is that for a lens to have optimal correction, it needs to have the rear nodal point somewhere in the vicinity of the lens. With the 40 something millimeter flange to focal plane distance that most 35mm SLR's have (this includes the

Re: Samples from DA14/2.8!

2004-06-08 Thread Peter Loveday
Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 11:33 AM Subject: Re: Samples from DA14/2.8! One of the little bits of wisdom I have picked up along the way is that for a lens to have optimal correction, it needs to have the rear nodal point

RE: Samples from DA14/2.8!

2004-06-08 Thread Shawn K.
-Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 7:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Samples from DA14/2.8! On 8 Jun 2004 at 14:03, Shawn K. wrote: I have to disagree with you here Rob. The 16-45 has CA problems worse than

RE: Samples from DA14/2.8!

2004-06-08 Thread Rob Studdert
On 8 Jun 2004 at 21:52, Shawn K. wrote: Rob, please now, spare your BS, No problems, I'll spare you directly from now on, you best set up a mail filter otherwise. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED]