Re: Strange 360FGZ behaviour with K10D

2007-01-10 Thread Thibouille
Well in A mode it should read the parameters from the body *correctly*. If then I want to override that's my problem but it should set the parameters correctly at first. Also, I don't see why I couldn't use A flash mode when I use anything else than M camera mode. This si very stupid and BTW if I

Re: Strange 360FGZ behaviour with K10D

2007-01-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
Having used these flashes for quite a long time for lots of weddings, portraits and events, I can say they work just fine. It sounds like you are wanting the A mode to basically function like it was TTL - basically taking any readings/changes you make on the camera and then setting the flash to

Re: Strange 360FGZ behaviour with K10D

2007-01-10 Thread Thibouille
Well the A mode as I describe works wonderfully on my Metz 40MZ2 + Z1 so I'm used to that. Once you override, then flash settings are used of course. Anyway it doesn't work so... That said it now seems to me it is a feature of the 360FGZ to give access to ONLY PTTL on a camera which offers PTTL.

Re: Strange 360FGZ behaviour with K10D

2007-01-10 Thread Mark Cassino
I get some odd behavior also with the 360FGZ on the K10D. Sometimes it cycles between all 4 modes, sometimes only two. If the flash is set to A or M mode with the camera off, and then the camera is turned on, it seems to cycle through all 4 modes. But if the cmaera is turned on first, I get

Re: Strange 360FGZ behaviour with K10D

2007-01-10 Thread Peter Loveday
It sounds like you are wanting the A mode to basically function like it was TTL - basically taking any readings/changes you make on the camera and then setting the flash to the same. So basically the only difference with that and TTL is that the sensor is in the flash instead of the body.

Re: Strange 360FGZ behaviour with K10D

2007-01-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
Not having used a Metz, every flash I have ever used has behaved more like the AF360FGZ. Basically because the settings were all on mechanical switches that couldn't be set from the body. If you look at a Pentax AF280T or AF400T, you will see this type of unit. Most older flashes were like

Re: Strange 360FGZ behaviour with K10D

2007-01-10 Thread Thibouille
I just checked the 540FGZ manual from Pentax website. It does work the same way. And Btw, My Z1 acts like that too in HyP mode but normal P will allow A/M modes. Go figure... If Metz does come with a good compatible (yeah not Sigma I mean) PTTL shoe I will go Metz way. Period. PL Yeah indeed,

Strange 360FGZ behaviour with K10D

2007-01-09 Thread Thibouille
Here are a couple observations since I took time to play a bit with external flash on my K10D. I have no other flash to test to compare results. * Exposure seems to be mostly OK (PTTL mode). At least way better than RTF which tends to overexpose (based on my short experience since I have had my

Re: Strange 360FGZ behaviour with K10D

2007-01-09 Thread Mike Hamilton
On 1/9/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are a couple observations since I took time to play a bit with external flash on my K10D. I have no other flash to test to compare results. Thibouille, I have the same setup, so I'll follow along here. * Mode selection on the flash itself

Re: Strange 360FGZ behaviour with K10D

2007-01-09 Thread Tom Reese
* Mode selection on the flash itself is screwed up. Basicaly, except in M mode, I can only choose P-TTL or SB (AF assist only). Not having TTL is of course normal but I cannot access A mode nor M mode which is weird to say the least. Pushing mode button will cycle between PTTL and SB ,

Re: Strange 360FGZ behaviour with K10D

2007-01-09 Thread Bruce Dayton
HmmmI just put one of my AF360FGZ flashes on my K10D and was able to cycle between P-TTL, A, M and SB. The lens in place was the DA 16-45/4. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, January 9, 2007, 11:37:02 AM, you wrote: T Here are a couple observations since I took time to play a bit with T

Re: Strange 360FGZ behaviour with K10D

2007-01-09 Thread Thibouille
Very weird. I can confirm that even with fresh batteries (alkaline but well they provide 1.5V each and were perfectly new one) that unless in M mode (camera) I can only choose PTTL or SB. Also, it will not show correct parameters when in A mode (flash) and M mode (camera). My FA50/1.4 exhibits the

Re: Strange 360FGZ behaviour with K10D

2007-01-09 Thread Bruce Dayton
After further investigation, when the camera mode is manual, it cycles between the mentioned modes, but if the camera is switched out of manual, then the flash will only cycle between P-TTL and SB just like yours. My woops - I almost always shoot in manual mode, so didn't try it the other way.

Re: Strange 360FGZ behaviour with K10D

2007-01-09 Thread Bruce Dayton
My understanding and usage of A mode is that there is a sensor on the flash that is used instead of the one in the body. The flash can be set to any parameters that you want, independent of the body. This allows you to control the flash as you want. It lets you do fill flash by telling the