Re: Thoughts on the digital format

2006-10-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 16, 2006, at 1:34 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 16/10/06, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There might be some improvements to the hardware, i.e. faster and more accurate autofocus, wireless, etc. But the only real direction I can see is software. I.e. focus fix after the

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-16 Thread Gonz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16/10/06, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There might be some improvements to the hardware, i.e. faster and more accurate autofocus, wireless, etc. But the only real direction I can see is software. I.e. focus fix after the fact, software guided panoramic

Re: Thoughts on the digital format

2006-10-16 Thread Gonz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 16, 2006, at 1:34 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 16/10/06, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There might be some improvements to the hardware, i.e. faster and more accurate autofocus, wireless, etc. But the only real direction I can see is software.

Re: Thoughts on the digital format

2006-10-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 16, 2006, at 5:13 PM, Gonz wrote: Kinda like 35mm SLR cameras since 1982, in my opinion. I never found anything that did a substantially better job than my Nikon FM/FE2/F3 SLRs or Leica M6 in 35mm. Exactly. No real progress. It seems like sensors are reaching the zone of

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-15 Thread Gonz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I'm interested to see is how the manufacturers will sell the next gen cameras give than in all reality APS sized sensors are at 12MP IOW as dense as is practical WRT lens technology and minimum photo site size. Should be interesting. thats the 12million

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-15 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 16/10/06, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There might be some improvements to the hardware, i.e. faster and more accurate autofocus, wireless, etc. But the only real direction I can see is software. I.e. focus fix after the fact, software guided panoramic stitching in camera, automatic

Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: The JCO survey And this is the point some are try to help you understand. Pentax makes more profit from new users ( long time users) who buy new products accessories, as apposed to the minimal profit they make from longtime

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread David Savage
On 10/14/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lenses that cover the 35mm frame will likely be phased out as soon as Pentax stops making film SLR cameras altogether. Don't forget the D-FA 200 300 on the lens Roadmap I still have hopes for a future Pentax full frame body. Dave -- PDML

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/10/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If one were to be technically accurate, then one would understand that an APS-C sized digital sensor represents a different format from 35mm film. The different format being 18x27mm (or whatever, I'm not going to go look it up). This is as

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Digital Image Studio Subject: Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey On 14/10/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then the legacy will be a register distance that was designed to accommodate 35mm FF image area and lenses that mos

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006, William Robb wrote: From: Digital Image Studio Subject: Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey On 14/10/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then the legacy will be a register distance that was designed to accommodate 35mm FF image area and lenses

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/10/06, Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't Olympus do that with the 4/3? How are they doing? Maintaining the K mount (to a degree) means that Pentax can crawl back to a 36x24mm sensor body if APS sensor line runs out of steam. 4/3 was destined to fail from the start (and

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: The JCO survey And this is the point some are try to help you understand. Pentax makes more profit from new users ( long time users) who buy new products accessories, as apposed to the minimal profit they

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread P. J. Alling
I like to use 16x24 actually a bit smaller for Pentax sensors a tiny bit bigger for actual film APS. But close enough. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: The JCO survey And this is the point some are try to help you understand. Pentax makes

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread Adam Maas
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Sat, 14 Oct 2006, William Robb wrote: From: Digital Image Studio Subject: Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey On 14/10/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then the legacy will be a register distance that was designed to accommodate

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Digital Image Studio Subject: Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey On 14/10/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then the legacy will be a register distance that was designed to accommodate 35mm FF image

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread Thibouille
Subject: Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey On 14/10/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then the legacy will be a register distance that was designed to accommodate 35mm FF image area and lenses that mos likely aren't optimal for the APS DSLR format. IE one big

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread P. J. Alling
Kavoussanakis wrote: On Sat, 14 Oct 2006, William Robb wrote: From: Digital Image Studio Subject: Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey On 14/10/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then the legacy will be a register distance that was designed

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread P. J. Alling
I wouldn't say fail, it depends on your definition of success. After all it's from the same people who brought us instamatic 126, 110, aps cartridge and disk film. It was just meant to be redundant in 15-20 years, too bad the digital world moves so much faster. Digital Image Studio wrote:

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey An interesting idea would be to keep the mount, shorten the register and sell an AF extension tube for older lenses that makes up the difference. Best of both worlds. Good idea

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote: Lenses that cover the 35mm frame will likely be phased out as soon as Pentax stops making film SLR cameras altogether. Haven't they already stoped manufacturing film SLR's? I know there three currently on their web site, but I was under the impression they were just

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey Haven't they already stoped manufacturing film SLR's? I know there three currently on their web site, but I was under the impression they were just selling off stock that has

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. (Olympus E)

2006-10-14 Thread John Celio
By rights, they should have introduced a whole new lens line with a shorter register difference. I imagine that they both knew how that would have gone over with the present user base, and didn't have the financial resources to do it. A compromise on several levels. Didn't Olympus do that