Re: the lightroom/photoshop interface seems broken

2013-10-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 27, 2013, at 12:40 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > … What I do want is that each pixel in the file has all fourteen bits of > data, from each of the three channels. … I think you're confused. 14 bit is the output quantization space used by the A->D converter when transforming the image date

Re: the lightroom/photoshop interface seems broken

2013-10-27 Thread Rob Studdert
Dedicated pano packages allow one set of the bracketed images to act as the positional anchors for the stitching on each of the layers so that they are in absolute registration when the layers are combined. This of course assumes that the rig was on a steady tripod as the brackets were exposed. On

Re: the lightroom/photoshop interface seems broken

2013-10-27 Thread Larry Colen
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 09:47:42PM -0400, Matthew Hunt wrote: > On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 7:51 PM, David Parsons > wrote: > > > Still not possible, since DNG is a representation of RAW data before > > it has been demosaiced. > > DNG is capable of storing RGB data (I think the DNG output of Vuesca

Re: the lightroom/photoshop interface seems broken

2013-10-27 Thread Larry Colen
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 07:51:57PM -0400, David Parsons wrote: > Still not possible, since DNG is a representation of RAW data before > it has been demosaiced. > > What's wrong with simply using .PSD files? Because when I apply the exposure corrections to the .PSD file all of the data in the shad

Re: the lightroom/photoshop interface seems broken

2013-10-27 Thread Larry Colen
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 05:11:15PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > You simply restated the same impossible thing. A DNG file is a raw file. I don't actually tremendously care whether the data is stored in the Bayer representation with each color separated in an array that lightroom can combine l

Re: the lightroom/photoshop interface seems broken

2013-10-26 Thread Igor Roshchin
Paul, while I think I know what you wanted to say, - but what is written is applicable to any image format: "It's just data." :-) ... and even a JPEG needs to be rendered to become an image. Cheers, Igor Sat Oct 26 20:22:15 EDT 2013 Paul Stenquist wrote: > You have to render the dng before y

Re: the lightroom/photoshop interface seems broken

2013-10-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I hate seeing thus kind of simplistic misinformation passed around, forgive me. DNG is not a "wrapper around TIFF".. It's a specialization of the TIFF file format with a standards based design spec, designed to contain raw camera or scanner data in both mosaic form and in linear RGB form. Being

Re: the lightroom/photoshop interface seems broken

2013-10-26 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 7:51 PM, David Parsons wrote: > Still not possible, since DNG is a representation of RAW data before > it has been demosaiced. DNG is capable of storing RGB data (I think the DNG output of Vuescan is basically that). It's basically a wrapper around TIFF. Hugin can assemb

Re: the lightroom/photoshop interface seems broken

2013-10-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
You have to render the dng before you can work with it. It's just data. Paul via phone > On Oct 26, 2013, at 7:35 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 06:51:43PM -0400, David Parsons wrote: >> You can't do that. Creating the panorama requires that PS save the >> file as somethin

Re: the lightroom/photoshop interface seems broken

2013-10-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
You simply restated the same impossible thing. A DNG file is a raw file. Godfrey -- > On Oct 26, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 06:51:43PM -0400, David Parsons wrote: >> You can't do that. Creating the panorama requires that PS save the >> file as something

Re: the lightroom/photoshop interface seems broken

2013-10-26 Thread David Parsons
Still not possible, since DNG is a representation of RAW data before it has been demosaiced. What's wrong with simply using .PSD files? On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 06:51:43PM -0400, David Parsons wrote: >> You can't do that. Creating the panoram

Re: the lightroom/photoshop interface seems broken

2013-10-26 Thread Larry Colen
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 06:51:43PM -0400, David Parsons wrote: > You can't do that. Creating the panorama requires that PS save the > file as something other than RAW. There's no such thing as a panorama > RAW file because there are no panorama sensors. OK, let me rephrase that, I want to take s

Re: the lightroom/photoshop interface seems broken

2013-10-26 Thread Larry Colen
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 07:19:51PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: > I process my raws then create the panorama. There are two commands. One > aligns the image. The other merges data and blends them. I've found they work > beautifully. My goal was to create several panos, then blend them with HDR t

Re: the lightroom/photoshop interface seems broken

2013-10-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
I process my raws then create the panorama. There are two commands. One aligns the image. The other merges data and blends them. I've found they work beautifully. Paul via phone > On Oct 26, 2013, at 6:46 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > I finally got things to the point that I could click on my ph

Re: the lightroom/photoshop interface seems broken

2013-10-26 Thread David Parsons
You can't do that. Creating the panorama requires that PS save the file as something other than RAW. There's no such thing as a panorama RAW file because there are no panorama sensors. After saving the file and having it reimport into LR, you can use any of the exposure adjustments on the file.

the lightroom/photoshop interface seems broken

2013-10-26 Thread Larry Colen
I finally got things to the point that I could click on my photos, click on edit in-> merge as a panorama in photoshop and it would collect them all into one, merged panorama. However, not only does it throw away all of the adjustments that I did in lightroom, the psd file I get back, despite sa