Re: what's the difference between M and A?

2007-06-26 Thread Adam Maas
Actually it's a fairly minor difference with major implications. Most pre-A lenses are adequately linear up to f8 or f11 and only become non-linear at smaller apertures. -Adam Vic Mortelmans wrote: > Now that's interesting! > > That's must be indeed the major mechanical difference comparint b

Re: what's the difference between M and A?

2007-06-26 Thread Vic Mortelmans
Now that's interesting! That's must be indeed the major mechanical difference comparint both lens types. Thanks for this feedback! Groeten, VIc Adam Maas schreef: > A lenses have a fully linear aperture actuation. > [...] > A fully linear aperture is necessary for the camera to > be able to

Re: what's the difference between M and A?

2007-06-25 Thread Bob Sullivan
Vic, Late reply, but here's my take. The A 50mm lens can be used fully automatic on DSLR's. The M's require you to press the green button to measure exposures. Makes the A easier and faster to use. Simple as that... Regards, Bob S. On 6/24/07, Vic Mortelmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > OK

re: what's the difference between M and A

2007-06-25 Thread John Sessoms
> > From: > Vic Mortelmans > > Hi, > > OK, obviously I do know that A-lenses have an A-modus, allowing the > camera to set the aperture (shutter-priority modes), while M-lenses > always require the aperture to be set on the lens. > > But being in persuit of a 50mm f/1.4, I notice that the A-model

Re: what's the difference between M and A?

2007-06-25 Thread Bob Blakely
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Re: what's the difference between M and A?

2007-06-25 Thread Mike Hamilton
On 25-Jun-07, at 3:56 AM, William Robb wrote: > > On 6/24/07, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I didnt state they removed them from their digital bodies, I >> specifically stated they >> removed them from their K mount bodies, which they DID with their >> digital K mount bodies >

RE: what's the difference between M and A?

2007-06-25 Thread J. C. O'Connell
onday, June 25, 2007 2:23 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: what's the difference between M and A? William Robb wrote: > On 6/24/07, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I didnt state they removed them from their digital bodies, I >> specifically s

Re: what's the difference between M and A?

2007-06-25 Thread Frits Wüthrich
Op Ma, 25 juni, 2007 09:57, schreef mike wilson: > >> >> From: Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 2007/06/24 Sun PM 09:24:02 GMT >> To: pdml@pdml.net >> Subject: Re: what's the difference between M and A? >> >> Don't know abou

Re: what's the difference between M and A?

2007-06-25 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2007/06/24 Sun PM 09:24:02 GMT > To: pdml@pdml.net > Subject: Re: what's the difference between M and A? > > Don't know about K lenses, but the M lenses I had, the 50, 135 and 200 mm > didn't need

Re: what's the difference between M and A?

2007-06-24 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: > On 6/24/07, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I didnt state they removed them from their digital bodies, I >> specifically stated they >> removed them from their K mount bodies, which they DID with their >> digital K mount bodies >> jco >> > > Thats an amazing

Re: what's the difference between M and A?

2007-06-24 Thread William Robb
On 6/24/07, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I didnt state they removed them from their digital bodies, I > specifically stated they > removed them from their K mount bodies, which they DID with their > digital K mount bodies > jco > Thats an amazing stretch of doublespeak, even fo

Re: what's the difference between M and A?

2007-06-24 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: > On 6/24/07, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> K AND M LENSES always have the same functionality and didnt ever need >> stop down metering until Pentax removed the aperture cam sensors >> from their K mount bodies when they went to digitial SLRS to save money >> and

RE: what's the difference between M and A?

2007-06-24 Thread J. C. O'Connell
: Sunday, June 24, 2007 11:12 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: what's the difference between M and A? On 6/24/07, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > K AND M LENSES always have the same functionality and didnt ever need > stop down metering until Pentax re

Re: what's the difference between M and A?

2007-06-24 Thread William Robb
On 6/24/07, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > K AND M LENSES always have the same functionality and didnt ever need > stop down metering until Pentax removed the aperture cam sensors > from their K mount bodies when they went to digitial SLRS to save money > and/or promote new lens sales

Re: what's the difference between M and A?

2007-06-24 Thread Adam Maas
Vic Mortelmans wrote: > Hi, > > OK, obviously I do know that A-lenses have an A-modus, allowing the > camera to set the aperture (shutter-priority modes), while M-lenses > always require the aperture to be set on the lens. > > But being in persuit of a 50mm f/1.4, I notice that the A-model is

RE: what's the difference between M and A?

2007-06-24 Thread J. C. O'Connell
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frits Wüthrich Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 5:24 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: what's the difference between M and A? Don't know about K lenses, but the M lenses I had, the 50, 135 and 200 mm didn't need stop down metering on my MX camera

RE: what's the difference between M and A?

2007-06-24 Thread J. C. O'Connell
s the difference between M and A? Hi, OK, obviously I do know that A-lenses have an A-modus, allowing the camera to set the aperture (shutter-priority modes), while M-lenses always require the aperture to be set on the lens. But being in persuit of a 50mm f/1.4, I notice that the A-model is pric

Re: what's the difference between M and A?

2007-06-24 Thread Frits Wüthrich
Don't know about K lenses, but the M lenses I had, the 50, 135 and 200 mm didn't need stop down metering on my MX camera's, or the ME or ME super. On Sunday 24 June 2007 22:17, mike wilson wrote: > Vic Mortelmans wrote: > > Hi, > > > > OK, obviously I do know that A-lenses have an A-modus, allow

Re: what's the difference between M and A?

2007-06-24 Thread Peter Lacus
Vic, > And I also assume that the 50mm f/1.4 M and A are optically identical? I have four M-50/1.4 and two A-50/1.4 (you can never have enough fifties). Here's a summary of my findings: M: - better bokeh - better build quality A: - better sharpness from 1.4 to 2.8 - perhaps slightly higher con

Re: what's the difference between M and A?

2007-06-24 Thread mike wilson
Vic Mortelmans wrote: > Hi, > > OK, obviously I do know that A-lenses have an A-modus, allowing the > camera to set the aperture (shutter-priority modes), while M-lenses > always require the aperture to be set on the lens. > > But being in persuit of a 50mm f/1.4, I notice that the A-model is

what's the difference between M and A?

2007-06-24 Thread Vic Mortelmans
Hi, OK, obviously I do know that A-lenses have an A-modus, allowing the camera to set the aperture (shutter-priority modes), while M-lenses always require the aperture to be set on the lens. But being in persuit of a 50mm f/1.4, I notice that the A-model is priced at least twice as high as the