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From: Mike Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to beat a $8000 DSLR for $300
I payed $125 for mine, but that was 25 years ago.
Paul
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
With 35mm I compose very carefully and usually
print full frame. BUT, with 67 and 4X5 I intentionally
shoot a little wider than my final vision and crop
to perfection during the printing phase. Why because
with the higher resolution formats you can afford
to crop, with 35mm you cant. Secondly,
Mike Johnston wrote:
Another flower for mike http://www.usefilm.com/showphoto.php?id=72
I find flowers disturbing. Especially in color.
I think it was the French painter Edgar Degas who wrote that he was
disturbed by the visual cacaphony of bouquets of flowers. He seldom painted
them,
What site should we hit for this info?
TIA,
Collin
--- David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Last week i caught the tail end of a local cable
show, in wicth a local photographer was giving macro
flower shooting tips.I missed most of it but did
manage to
hear 1-2 of them.
He was obvioulsy in a large green house doing this
and it
got me a
I crop, I'd say , only about 15% of what I print. Usually because of not
having time to focus in on what
I want in the picture, shooting out of car windows, etc. I'm not
counting trimming the very edges of
the frame just a tad to eliminate vignetting or a stray hair, branch , etc
that I
For God's sake man! Pull yourself together SLAP before blurting out
HTML code advice relating to humerous postings on email lists!
I hope Henry isn't dangling from a tree branch by now. KAJ my arse!
LOL.
Shouldn't there be a slap SLAP before that last statement?
At 06:19 PM 2/11/2003 +,
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
This doesn't mean that you have to use a digital camera, though. You could
just as easily shoot with traditional film and provide them with scans that
could still beat the quality you'd get from today's DSLR, even if they only
keep 4MB.
t
did i
I am booked to do a female portrait session. I have had some success before using
natural light and the Lastolite Triflector. This lady however requires the photos to
be taken in the evening on return from the hairdresser... natural light is out (it's
dark by 19:00 in the UK in February).
I
Boy, I don't see why such over-reaction.
regards,
Alan Chan
I feel sick by the news of two new KAJ mount lenses.
I think it signals the end of K-mount afterall. Obviously, the new user
manual is designed for future use, as the KAJ lenses are yet to be
released. This implies that there is
Many Nikon users hated the G series lenses when they came out, because
they were entry-level pieces of dung. Now Nikon has started to make some
excellent lenses with the G mount, so maybe Pentax is going that way.
Looks like we're going to need cameras that set the aperture from the
camera body.
At least Pentax did release 2 (or more?) AF bodies which had no metering
manual mode, but that has never extended to other mid-to-high end bodies.
The name Nikon is famous enough to sell most diehard Nikon fans to buy
whatever craps they made, but this is not true for Pentax.
regards,
Alan
Actually I am surprised they still put the distance scale on AF zooms
because they are basically useless.
regards,
Alan Chan
Isn't it enough that they lack focus scale to remove all doubt that they
are strictly bottom level?
_
Hi, Rob,
I try ~real hard~ not to crop, and I'd guess that 90% to 95% of my shots are
only cropped as necessary to fit the print format.
That being said, sometimes it is impossible to get that pesky telephone wire
or lampost out of the frame, and I know at the time I take the shot that a
crop
Hi, Fred,
My posts have been quite slow lately, often taking over an hour to come
up on the list, sometimes longer...
cheers,
frank
Fred wrote:
You are right, Frank. I apologize, John, for my sarcasm, the
result of typing before thinking - Sorry.
Gee, I sent this out at 9:44 AM EST on
All the time - at work. I try to compose my shots well, but what you
originally had in mind won't work a lot of the time when you see how much
space you have on the front page and what has to go on it. I have to admit,
I've had to get pretty creative at times to retain the message and still
make
Here's mine
http://pug.komkon.org/02jul/tulip.html
---
Wendy Beard
See, now how can anybody not consider that a scary picture? Freaks me out.
--Mike
Hi, Rob,
Taken way back around '75, I'd guess, with my old Praktica and a Soligor
300mm, most likely with a 2x converter (but maybe not, hell, I can't
remember that far back!):
http://www.urbancaravan.com/images/perkins_car.jpg
By the time the F1 races started in the afternoon, I'd had a few
The two FAJ lenses will be introduced in the U.S. At PMA, and are intended
as kit lenses for entry-level SLRs. What Pentax has apparently found is that
entry level cameras (ZX-60, ZX-50 and ZX-30) have functions most
conveniently addressed with the aperture ring on A, and some first-time
SLR
Funny, but I was thinking cliches, as in cliche photos, not techniques.
That being said, Mike, you posted a while ago with what you ~wouldn't~ allow
your students to submit. That list included the Flatiron Building. Could you
give us the rest of that list? It was great.
Mind you, Toronto has
might as well trot these out again:
http://www.alphoto.com/floral1.jpg
http://www.alphoto.com/floral4.jpg
Here's mine
http://pug.komkon.org/02jul/tulip.html
Okay I'm in hell, but don't mind me.
gg
--Mike
Higher image quality. Plain and simple.
Well, maybe if you're Weegee
s
--Mike
And how do you fell about undulating bell peppers ?
Obscene!
g
--Mike
Happy Valentine's Day... to those who matters... :)
http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/flower17.jpg
http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/flower18.jpg
Aw shucks, you shouldn't have, thanks :-)
Mike J can have the sharp one!
Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT) +10 Hours
How important is it to have a coatings on all your filters? A plain UV
filter might cost $10 while an SMC filter would cost $35. I can't see how
it would matter much on the outer surface, a little bit of light would
just be lost. But on the inner surface?
--
A nice adaptation of conditions
Thus, my current mantra is if
you desire prints,
use film; if you want to view using the computer,
use digital.
Even today you must still ask yourself What am I
going to do with this
image? before you trip the shutter. Personally, I
think it will remain
that way for the next few
Dear all,
Good grief! How is possible to react in the way cited below to the fact
that Pentax release two bottom level lenses? We had the same sort of
reaction when they released the first plastic mount lenses. Suddenly all
Pentax lenses would use plastic mounts! Pentax is just releasing the
Very short straws. More like a variation on Field of Dreams: If they
built it, who would care?
BR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or, am I just grasping at straws?
Fred
Mike wrote:
This is directly from Pentax to the PDML: No wholesale change in
philosophy
or lens mount is coming.
No wholesale change in lens mount is coming?
Is this the first official confirmation of the coming K-AF3 mount?
Regards,
Henry chu
12/2/2003
How important is it to have a coatings on all your filters? A plain UV
filter might cost $10 while an SMC filter would cost $35. I can't see how
it would matter much on the outer surface, a little bit of light would
just be lost. But on the inner surface?
Outer surface reflections could
... and have it function as the shutter too. Just like my Kodak Fiesta.
BR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They can do it with 2, though the bokeh isn't the best.
William Robb
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Alan Chan wrote:
Actually I am surprised they still put the distance scale on AF zooms
because they are basically useless.
How so?
chris
Hoya's multicoated filters are about $20. Maybe a good compromise?
I would always prefer a multicoated filter, but I use the Tiffen 812 all
the time with no apparent ill effects. I do use a hood. Tiffen doesn't
make a multicoated version of the 812.
Gregory L. Hansen wrote:
How important
...with 67 and 4X5 I intentionally
shoot a little wider than my final vision and crop
to perfection during the printing phase. Why because
with the higher resolution formats you can afford
to crop, with 35mm you cant.
Is that one of those cast in stone photographers rules?
Rob Studdert
OK lets have a show of hands. Who here often finds they left just a
little too much space around their subject, either due to not framing as
well as possible or because you couldn't get close enough of enough
magnification. Who here sometimes takes a lanscape format portrait and
realises
Henry wrote:
My problem is, if Pentax to going to release more
lenses with FAJ mount to
match the coming D-SLR, I will be gone to Canon.
Uhhh, didn't Nikon release some bottom-end G lenses a
couple of years ago? Granted they have released a
70-200 f2.8 IF-ED G lens, I don't think most Nikon
Thanks for the insight, James. I'm also learning on my own. Of course, if I
thought it were a complete drudgery, I'd use T400CN and drop it off at the
nearest supermarket. As a beginner, though, my brain says, get me the best
pictures possible but my eyes see endless combinations of film and
Hi all,
Today I was in my local candy store, er, camera shop,
looking at their used K mount offerings, when a lady
comes in and wants to sell the above referenced lens.
She was going to get advice on pricing, but I had to
leave. I did not even know Pentax made this focal
length in the K mount.
just having a quick look at your shots on
Sunday photog, you have a perfect example of the kind of crop I do for
people shots. In your article on flare (the first one I cam across with
people shots when looking back) there is one titled mj-morgan. If you
cropped that from landscape to
All air/glass interfaces are an abrupt change in impedance for the
electromagnetic energy impinging on/passing through the interface. A portion
of the light must be reflected at each interface. In fact, the same amount
of light will be reflected at the inner interface as from the outer
interface.
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
How important is it to have a coatings on all your filters? A plain UV
filter might cost $10 while an SMC filter would cost $35. I can't see how
it would matter much on the outer surface, a little bit of light would
just be lost. But on the
Keith Whaley wrote:
whickersworld wrote:
Mike Johnston wrote:
...Which brings up another interesting question. What are
the worst photographic clichés of all time?
Mike,
Without any doubt, the worst photographic clichés of all
time are the Rules of Composition. Especially the Rule
of
I must admit that I was a bit hysterical last night when I first read the
news at around midnight. These are the last things that I wish to learn
before going to bed.
Henry,
One thing I learned during the time I was on the LUG: never read mailing
list e-mail before bedtime! g
The LUG could
Hi everybody,
I feel a bit guilty for my absence from the list (or lurking, it
depends on the point of view...) of the recent times; I would
have liked to reply to many threads but in a way or another I
was always late so I decided to stay away a bit.
I had (and still have) a lot of equipment
--- Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I payed $125 for mine, but that was 25 years ago.
Paul
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
http://jcoconnell.com/temp/sg2.jpg
Actually I did it for only $150, but that was
about 15 years ago. :) :) :)
This thread has me kind of mystified.
At 08:39 PM 11/02/2003 -0500, you wrote:
...with 67 and 4X5 I intentionally
shoot a little wider than my final vision and crop
to perfection during the printing phase. Why because
with the higher resolution formats you can afford
to crop, with 35mm you cant.
Is that one of those cast in
Thanks for the insight, James. I'm also learning on my own. Of course, if I
thought it were a complete drudgery, I'd use T400CN and drop it off at the
nearest supermarket. As a beginner, though, my brain says, get me the best
pictures possible but my eyes see endless combinations of film and
Another flower for mike http://www.usefilm.com/showphoto.php?id=72
I find flowers disturbing. Especially in color.
The onset of a hybrid anthophobia/chromophobia perhaps?
Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT) +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Those pesky manuals! Who has time to read 'em? g
Someone, I would hope, as long as I write 'em. Not all manuals suck.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Holy--! The pricing of this lens was the subject less than a week ago. It
goes, as I recall, for $175 to $300. It's one of the most highly regarded of
the K-series primes, which is to say, about as good as it gets. It almost
never turns up in a local store, and very seldom online. Get it, and you
--- Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
This thread has me kind of mystified.
,snip
Or do you see guys shooting with press
cameras and Rolleiflexes
at the jobs _you_ go on??
I think both JCO and I were being a bit facetious. But I see pros
shooting 4x5 all the time. Top dollar
Now I would pay good money to see some of you...or at least one of you.
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From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Women of PDML
From what I've seen no one would want to pay money to look at any
The last job I worked on paid me $37.41 and hour.
I have no idea of how long it would take or what it
might cost an experienced person to download, fix
(manipulate) 140 digital shots, adjust for RGB,
Gamma-etc., then do the test prints, color match them
to the monitor, (presuming they two
- Original Message -
From: Bruce Rubenstein
Subject: Re: K and M lenses are now obsolete!!! (was: FAJ lenses)
... and have it function as the shutter too. Just like my Kodak Fiesta.
I was thinking the Canon Sure Shot..
William Robb
I felt betrayed when Pentax switched over from the venerable screw mount
to the K-mount. I started with Pentax back in 1963 and watched while other
camera makes made the move to the screw mount. I thought screw mount would
be the mount for all times!
I have most of the SMC Taks now for my ES and
Tom V wrote:
God, I wish Pentax would make something in this category. How about a 6 meg
digital 28Ti sort of thing? You could have a very fast lens, say a 28/1.4,
if using a small sensor.
Ricoh played this niche well in film cameras, first with a highly regarded
GR1 28/2.8 point-and-shoot, than
- Original Message -
From: Rob Studdert
Subject: Re: Hands up who crops? (was: Megapixels required for an 8X10
print?)
I only crop when the found view looks a little too found.
Since my viewfinder doesn't match my negative perfectly, I have to crop to
what my viewfinder sees.
Paul:
After seeing your post, I called the owner just now.
Apparently after I left the store, the guy behind the
counter pulled out some kind of special light. When
he looked inside the lens, he said it is full of mold.
He said it is basically a paper weight. So,
tomorrow, I am getting the
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The last job I worked on paid me $37.41 and hour.
I have no idea of how long it would take or what it
might cost an experienced person to download, fix
(manipulate) 140 digital shots, adjust for RGB,
Gamma-etc., then do the test prints, color
Not my photo but...
Seems appropriate.
http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/It%20Finally%20Happened.jpg
At 04:33 PM 2/11/2003 -0600, you wrote:
might as well trot these out again:
http://www.alphoto.com/floral1.jpg
http://www.alphoto.com/floral4.jpg
Here's mine
Gianfranco Irlanda wrote:
Hi everybody,
I feel a bit guilty for my absence from the list (or lurking, it
depends on the point of view...) of the recent times; I would
have liked to reply to many threads but in a way or another I
was always late so I decided to stay away a bit.
I had
Freezing under Hell is not a real cliche!!
VBG
Cheers
Shaun
Peter Alling wrote:
Not my photo but...
Seems appropriate.
http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/It%20Finally%20Happened.jpg
At 04:33 PM 2/11/2003 -0600, you wrote:
might as well trot these out again:
Yes. I have no Idea since prices can be all over the place,
if she doesn't know what it's worth the question becomes how
big a pirate do you want to be?
The M version is slightly less desirable than the original
smcp, but I like the M.
At 05:25 PM 2/11/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Hi all,
Today I
A reverse cliche?
At 02:04 PM 2/12/2003 +1100, you wrote:
Freezing under Hell is not a real cliche!!
VBG
Cheers
Shaun
Peter Alling wrote:
Not my photo but...
Seems appropriate.
http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/It%20Finally%20Happened.jpg
At 04:33 PM 2/11/2003 -0600, you wrote:
might as
Mafud, I'd sure like to see some samples of those hot-selling flower photos. Can we
see some of them online? Or let us know your fair schedule so we can come out and see
them.
Doug
At 4:19 PM -08002/11/03, Mafud, wearing his Matt Greene disguise, wrote, or at
least typed:
some stuff about
Matt, thanks for sharing practical and useful info. It's stuff you wouldn't
pick up in a weekend or two of taking flower pictures.
Pat White
After seeing your post, I called the owner just now.
Apparently after I left the store, the guy behind the
counter pulled out some kind of special light. When
he looked inside the lens, he said it is full of mold.
Just don't store it near your other lenses. Fungus is contagious.
If it's
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From: Charge Crystal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Now I would pay good money to see some of you...or at least
one of you.
Which one did you have in mind?
tv
I also wonder how much 140 regular + test prints (say
200) tests and final prints cost. I do know printer
ink cartridges are the most expensive components of
digital (color) printing.
Time is money and I smell a lot of time involved here.
Meanwhile, I can go to the lab at 8 AM Monday, give
Down boy,
Don't get your hopes up. Your pic has been plastered on this forum quite a
few times :-) ... but you never know.
César
Panama City, Florida
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