Pål wrote:
Yes it is a no brainer for under $1000. Just don't
hold your breath for that price unless you plan to
watch e-bay in two years time.
On the Luminous Landscape, intense competition will
drive DSLR's like the *ist D to $1000 and below at
this time next year. If you look at DSLR prices
The following message was posted recently in rangefinder mailing
list, take it for what its worth
(see paragraph #7 for mention of Voigtlander Bessamatic with 42mm screwmount).
Paul
I just returned from two days at PMA in Las Vegas.
I was fortunate to visit with Mr. Kobayashi, CEO of Cosina.
Pål wrote:
But is that realistic?
Pentax will get a reality check pretty quick if Canon
sells the 10D for $1500. At this price point, Pentax
better do some fancy foot work ( get a foot hold).
Perhaps $1200 may not make a difference??
It will be VERY interesting, given how volatile the
DSLR
Hi,
Wednesday, March 5, 2003, 2:47:32 AM, you wrote:
Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without an
accordion.
-- Jed Babbit (Former US Under-secretary of Defense)
This is a bit provocative, given the fact that we've all agreed not to talk
politics.
yes, but it's
They have released those FAJ lenses and the world's smallest SLR
*ist. Nothing for us...
How is this to be pronounced? Star-ist?
Then, can I use my A* lenses on it? g A-star-ist? g
Fred
'The boss said I'm free to take it home and use it, it just has to remain
NIST property.'
I would go right ahead, let it remain their property for 1000 years, I'd get the CLA
done too - keep the receipt of course just in case.
AB
Yup, most things here in the UK are 50%-100% more expensive than the USA and other
places... but then I guess the majority of the population of this planet haven't even
got...
AB
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Now now! We do have people on this list from that part of the world. I hope
none of them see these posts. For inventive language the present Chief
executive of the US would take some beating.
D
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I'm concerned that Canon or Nikon, with their deep pockets, will lower the
prices of their DLSRs just long enough to knock Pentax out of the race.
I don't think that will happen as long as Pentax don't over-price. There are
thousands, no I guess millions of screw and K mount lenses out there
on 05.03.03 0:16, Pål Jensen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sylwester wrote:
.
Interesting. What zooms are they?
The 17-28 fish-eye zoom and the FA645 33-55/4.5
I didn't have any physical contact with them - that's why I said I have
never seen... :-) Anyway zooms without rotating front and
Hi Bruce,
on 04 Mar 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
killer product. If they don't and the price is not much different than
a 10D, then you are right, no one will buy it, based on the strength,
direction and reputation of Canon.
I don't agree. Why should the *istD necessarily be cheaper than the
Hi all,
This film is now in stock at my local camera shop. Has anyone out there
tried it?
Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Its nice enough. Bit blueish if printed on colour paper, but printed
on proper BW paper is fine. I prefer the Ilford stuff personally so
have no need for it.
-Original Message-
From: David Mann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 09:29
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:
Hello Arnold,
I have unsucribed this day because I cannot cope with the
flood of emails.
Hans.
--- Arnold Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Welcome Hans!
I am happy that you are here, too!
Arnold
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Hi!
BR Hokey Smokes!
Everything but this please. The snow could melt, you know :).
BR There was about a 1cm blanket of snow in Jerusalem when we were
BR there in Feb 83, but nothing like that. It did look like that up
BR in the Golan though.
The snow layer was about 2 feet deep... I will be
Does anyone have experience with the Tokina or the Tamron? Cotty don't you
have the Tokina (ATX version) for your D60?
Hi,
does anyone know an old Sigma 2,8/18mm from ca. 1986?
I think, it's not so brilliant in the corners as well, but I'm quite
confident it will do it's job on an *ist-D.
I
I pick the AF sensor so it is framed right, then shoot. This works with
either a moving or stationary subject. How do you lock and recompose on
something moving diagonally towards you?
Crossed sensors are both aimed at the same thing so there isn't more
chance of error of picking the wrong
If I make it over there this summer you can try out my Pentax 15 f/3.5 -
oh wait...that won't fit on your Canon D60. Bwahahahahahaha!
;-)
I'll work on a K -- EOS adapter shortly.
Mutley snigger
Oh, swipe me! He paints with light!
In my limited experience, the pricing in the UK is about what you would
expect with a 1:1 currency exchange. Our $300 is their £300. Of course it
will cost you $450 to buy that £300...
This is the case with most items, although a fair few slip the net and in
the odd occasion I have managed to
File sizes increase with ISO speed.
I would have assumed that they would decrease with increase in
speed. Bigger grain = less information. Is this a typo or
have I (as usual) missed something?
Hi Mike,
No typo. The above is true. I have little idea why, but
Higher ISO is really a
I know how strange the subject of this post is looking, but as a matter of
fact there were:
- Pentax EI-2000 - that was rather DZLR with non-removable lens (something
a'la Oly E10, but unfortunately it had poor chip/electronics made by HP
performance)
- MZ-D - shown 2 years ago - it was in more
Mike wrote:
I happened to land on this little photo essay here:
http://home.imcnet.net/~waltsman/dad1.HTML
Very moving. Beautiful BW photogoraphy. I had to go back and take a
second look at the framing and crop of each shot. Near perfect. Thanks
for sharing it.
Paul
Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I believe it's only a half-stop from 1.2 to 1.4.
Here's how f/stops compare. I don't remember where I got these numbers. I
may have derived them, so feel free to question them.
f/1.2 is 0.45 stop faster than f/1.4
f/1.4 is 0.62 stop faster than f/1.8.
JCO wrote:
BTW, if you need an extra stop over a F1.4, then a F1.0 is the answer.
Canon just released a EF 50mm F1.0, $2500 list price.
I doubt that Canon's 50/1.0 is geared toward serious photographers who find
f/1.2 limiting. It sounds more like fuel for a pissing contest. Who buys the
It's the part of Germany surrounding Stuttgart. If you read the history
of Daimler and Benz, much of their success is attributed to the
thriftiness and mental toughness of the people.
Pat White wrote:
Where is Swabia? That's a new one on me.
Pat White
Paul Stenquist schrieb:
Mike wrote:
I happened to land on this little photo essay here:
http://home.imcnet.net/~waltsman/dad1.HTML
Very moving. Beautiful BW photogoraphy. I had to go back and take a
second look at the framing and crop of each shot.
So did I. Moving, indeed!
I
Hi Paul,
on 05 Mar 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
It's the part of Germany surrounding Stuttgart. If you read the history
of Daimler and Benz, much of their success is attributed to the
thriftiness and mental toughness of the people.
Yes, but that's a long time ago... g
SCNR
Cheers, Heiko
(from
You don't get a second chance on first impressions.
...unless you're Bill Murray on Groundhog Day.
Mike wrote:
I personally don't expect the *ist D to be less expensive than the 10D. As
long as it's not too much more, it will be all right. I doubt anyone would
bother about an extra hundred dollars when it comes to buying the camera
that's right for them.
for them--but they will look closely
Heck, that's nothing. Ray Kimber of Kimber Kable marketed a pair of speaker
wires that cost $15,000. I'm NOT making this up.
Anyone who thinks he can hear the difference between a $15,000 pair of
speaker wires and a pair costing $150 of that should be required to first
take a blind listening test
To be honest, using a computer usuall nullifies any 'significant'
investment in good speakers anyway!
-Original Message-
From: Paul Franklin Stregevsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 00:30
To: 'Pentax-Discuss'
Subject: FW: Re: *ist D lens compatibility
Jostein
You would probably hear the difference, unless you got a $150 pair which
had very similar tonal characteristics to the Kimber. The question is,
would you know which was better?
To be honest the next step up from $150 cables is generally biwiring
rather than improving the single cable quality.
Hi Dave,
I've used it many times. It, in my opinion, beats XP2 hands down. It is
the finest C-41 BW film out there but it is expensive (at least up here in
Canada). Most people, I think, usually opt for XP2 or T400CN before
spending the extra dough on Portra 400 BW. If you can afford it, it's
Anyone buying a DSLR as a gift (at current prices) without the receiver
specifying the model likely has too much money to worry about an extra
$100 - they will more likely buy on recommendation from a sales clerk
than on price. IMO.
-Original Message-
From: Paul Franklin Stregevsky
I raised the question twice, I believe, in the days before you joined. I do
a lot of shooting at ISO 800 to 1250. It would be a pity if the *ist D could
not be used to shoot indoor school plays.
There is no secret method for goosing the ISO speed. Whatever Pentax
delivers, we'll be stuck with.
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Cotty wrote:
The vast majority of computer and photographic gear that I buy makes
the trip across the pond to me.
Always on the lookout for couriers. Must be able to swallow 3 or 4 lenses
stashed into condoms.
I can almost sympathise with smugglers having just been
In the perfume world, where image is everything, discounts are shunned.
Companies might offer a rebate, or a bonus, but that high selling price adds
valuable mystique.
On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 22:03:49 -0600, you wrote:
i see you haven't made it to the $1K/meter pairs yet.
Herb.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm connecting two computers to our good
speakers. The setup requires several pairs of cables, and the more I read,
the more I realize that a cheap
I agree with Fred appears to be the original magnifier, used for the K
series and Spotmatics.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2915712799category=15240
You also ask:
How does it attach to the camera? Does it take up the hot shoe?
No, it slips over the eyepiece, flipping down
Game, set and match, Mike! vbg
-frank
Mike Johnston wrote:
snipWhat say ye, do we gi' the Schwabians a run fa' their money?
g
--Mike
--
Honour - that virtue of the unjust!
-Albert Camus
I read some nice things about it at photo.net. Do a search. Excellent
tonality.
Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without an
accordion.
-- Jed Babbit (Former US Under-secretary of Defense)
Reminds me of the 1970s T-shirt and bumper sticker:
A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle.
Time to go out and shovel the 6-8 inches that fell last night. :-(
I can't believe 2 feet in Jerusalem! Things must be in absolute turmoil.
Regards, Bob S.
Bruce wrote:
It should be remembered that at the time that the ME was introduced
there was no such thing as a PS camera (as we think of one today). The
ME, particularly with the pancake lens, competed with fixed lens
rangefinder cameras: only a bit bigger than a Canon QL-17. It was a very
Bruce wrote:
An LX with AF would be yawned at by most of the world - it would only
appeal to a few die hard Pentaxians.
But there is another function of Pentax niche product: keeping the system alive.
Theres no doubt in my mind that without the LX, the Pentax K-mount system would have
Mike Johnston wrote:
There was and continues to be a large German population in
Berlin/Kitchener. I had many friends whose families originated in
Schwabia. Economical is a very polite description of them. g And
yes, more economical than the Scots, I'd say...
I feel compelled to
The whole system, including business trips, is carefully designed so that
no employees can get any benefit or have any fun from working for the
government.
Amen! I've first-hand knowledge of that, myself.
Len
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Hi!
Rac Time to go out and shovel the 6-8 inches that fell last night. :-(
Rac I can't believe 2 feet in Jerusalem! Things must be in absolute turmoil.
Rac Regards, Bob S.
Nope, it is fine. It lasted only 2 and a half days. When I was driving
through it was already raining... In fact the snow
Bob wrote:
Time to go out and shovel the 6-8 inches that fell last night. :-(
I can't believe 2 feet in Jerusalem! Things must be in absolute turmoil.
Yes. Here north of the polar circle theres hardly any snow left. We usually have about
1,5-2 meters this time of the year.
Pål
10 inches here so far and more expected.
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Time to go out and shovel
the 6-8 inches that fell
last night. :-(
I can't believe 2 feet in Jerusalem! Things must be
in absolute turmoil.
Regards, Bob S.
Same here Bob.
Took me over an hour to get into work this morning - usually it's 1/2 hour.
It's still coming down here in Toronto too.
At least 8 inches this time around.
CHeers,
Dave
Original Message:
-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:37:50 EST
To: [EMAIL
How does it attach to the camera? Does it take up the hot shoe?
Nope. It slides down onto the viewfinder (which, as you probably
know, has grooves on it for such accessories).
Have you ever used one before, and do they really work?
Well, yes and no. It doesn't directly affect focusing, of
They have released those FAJ lenses and the world's smallest
SLR *ist. Nothing for us...
How is this to be pronounced? Star-ist?
Then, can I use my A* lenses on it? g A-star-ist? g
Wow - talk about a slow message. When I was reading this, I didn't
even recognize at first that it was
The only word wrong in that statement was the word ever. Without that one
word, the statement was accurate for the time. We were writing most of our
own programs, in pretty efficient code. Program bloat took off to heights
that are still increasing today.
4MP will stretch the capacity of a
This has got to be the funniest activity that occurs on this list -
people who'd have a tough time figuring out how much to charge for an
8x10 telling a multi-national corporation how much to charge for
something as complicated as a camera.
tv
Welcome to the brotherhood. You'll love the big
detailed, rich toned negs and slides.
My 6x7 non-mlu is being serviced now (bloody expensive
service btw), getting film transport repaired. I
suppose the new version has way better mechanism.
Regards and enjoy...
Brother Albano
=
Albano
It's really an anti-terrorist tactic.
BR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Time to go out and shovel the 6-8 inches that fell last night. :-(
I can't believe 2 feet in Jerusalem! Things must be in absolute turmoil.
Regards, Bob S.
I believe Frank may be home today - the roads in downtown Toronto aren't
nearly as rideable as they were yesterday.
I spotted him booting up University yesterday just after noon but he was
clocking a fair pace so it was pointless to yell and ask him why he wasn't
wearing his MX :)
Cheers,
Dave
Heiko,
In the US, if both companies were on equal footing that would be true.
The basic problem is that a DSLR costing $1500 USD is not inexpensive.
The MZ-S at $800 is not selling well compared to a Nikon F100 at over
$1000. I think that people willing to spend $1500 would take a hard
look at
Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
JCO wrote:
JCOC My newest Pentax lens arrived today.
JCOC SMC Pentax 165mm F2.8 for the P67.
JCOC Took a test roll around the house
JCOC and all I can say is WOW!
JCOC Just as good as all the other 67
JCOC lenses I own and that's very good indeed.
JCOC Got
The color cast is determined by exposure, paper choice and operator
skill.
Portra BW is meant to be printed on color paper - it's fine on b+w
though the print times are a little longer than with T400CN, which
itself has pretty long print times as compared to normal b+w.
It just depends on what
Does anyone make a wireless network card
*for digital cameras*
that will transmit the image across the network
immedately after being taken?
Collin
Sylwester,
Yes, this is a strange turn. Most would consider the EI-2000 and MZ-D
as no shows. I know the EI-2000 actually shipped, but it certainly
was not much of a seller. These are products I would not want to
shout about to show my digital prowess.
Bruce
Wednesday, March 5, 2003,
snort
At 09:19 AM 3/5/03, you wrote:
This has got to be the funniest activity that occurs on this list -
people who'd have a tough time figuring out how much to charge for an
8x10 telling a multi-national corporation how much to charge for
something as complicated as a camera.
tv
Tom wrote:
This has got to be the funniest activity that occurs on this list -
people who'd have a tough time figuring out how much to charge for an
8x10 telling a multi-national corporation how much to charge for
something as complicated as a camera.
Well, the competition usually gives an
Not yet. The network card, right now, would have to look like a
storage device or USB/Firewire connection for the camera to be able to
do anything with it.
BR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone make a wireless network card
*for digital cameras*
that will transmit the image across the
The Isreali's are good but not that good
--- Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's really an anti-terrorist tactic.
BR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Time to go out and shovel the 6-8 inches that fell
last night. :-(
I can't believe 2 feet in Jerusalem! Things must
be in
But the pricing has to be innovative, original, =sexy= enough to set the
product apart from the competition, doesn't it?
At 09:41 AM 3/5/03, you wrote:
Tom wrote:
This has got to be the funniest activity that occurs on this list -
people who'd have a tough time figuring out how much to charge
On 5 Mar 2003 at 9:19, tom wrote:
This has got to be the funniest activity that occurs on this list -
people who'd have a tough time figuring out how much to charge for an
8x10 telling a multi-national corporation how much to charge for
something as complicated as a camera.
I guess most of
A seller told me that the K eyepiece accessories (2X focusing loupe,
diopter correction lenses, etc.) are compatible with Yashica and
Canon bodies and the other way around. I should go at this shop with
an accessory and try it to get an answer, but anybody here that would
know about this?
We are the savy consumer, we demand hte product be at
the price we want or we will not buy it. :D
At 09:19 AM 3/5/03, you wrote:
This has got to be the funniest activity that
occurs on this list -
people who'd have a tough time figuring out how
much to charge for an
8x10 telling a
Bob,
Think positive.
Cubs will win Division, Pennant, Series this year!
See, the snow's not so bad. Now, doesn't that make everything better?
:)
Collin
This one was put in his place by the body snatchers!
Collin
I bet the *istD would be fantastic for MACRO work.
The smaller sensor would allow lower reproduction
ratios, hence increasing DOF which can be a real
problem even for 35mm.
I imagine the 50mm F4/2.8 macro lenses would be
ideal ( same field of view as a 75mm on 35mm).
Nice working room and still
Paul Franklin Stregevsky said:
Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I believe it's only a half-stop from 1.2 to 1.4.
Here's how f/stops compare. I don't remember where I got these numbers. I
may have derived them, so feel free to question them.
f/1.2 is 0.45 stop faster than f/1.4
Wrong. I got one just like it that was that way out of the box and has never
been repaired.
Kenneth Waller
Is the serial number close to the one shown on eBay?
van Oosten does not mention this variation in his Ultimate Pentax
Screw Mount Guide...
He sure would be happy to get this serial
- Original Message -
From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mind you, I'm not saying it won't sell, just that it won't make any
serious inroads into the general DSLR market. Us Pentaxians will
support it, but we are small in number and only a small percentage
of
us will buy it
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Bruce Rubenstein wrote:
Pentax really got wacked when AF, built in flash, auto everything PS
cameras came along and devoured that segment of the SLR market.
Perhaps history will repeat itself. Konica came out with the first
compact camera with AE and a built-in flash in
MUHAHHAHA
--- Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob,
Think positive.
Cubs will win Division, Pennant, Series this year!
See, the snow's not so bad. Now, doesn't that make
everything better?
:)
Collin
Bruce kidnapped him, no worries he'll escape in time.
--- Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This one was put in his place by the body snatchers!
Collin
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Herb Chong wrote:
since you are scanning them anyway, the only safe way to do it is to correct them
digitally. any treatment of the originals themselves have a chance of damaging them.
if you are going to treat the originals, be sure to take copy slides of them first.
Hi Herb, and first
Bruce wrote:
In the US, if both companies were on equal footing that would be true.
The basic problem is that a DSLR costing $1500 USD is not inexpensive.
The MZ-S at $800 is not selling well compared to a Nikon F100 at over
$1000.
True enough, but lets not forget that the MZ-S was never
Jostein wrote:
Anyway, I think Pentax will be more than happy to establish themselves
with a market share in DSLRs comparable to the share they have in film
DSLR.
True. And thats whats dissapoints me.
Pål
Hi Bruce,
on 05 Mar 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
In the US, if both companies were on equal footing that would be true.
I agree that Pentax has a problem in this point. It is the same in
Germany: they have neglected their marketing and there is no positive
brand awareness. If you go to a
For this Konica earned a footnote in history. Canon came out with the
Sureshot and changed the photographic world.
BR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Konica came out with the first
compact camera with AE and a built-in flash in 1975, and then with an
autofocus version in 1977...
Pal are have you killed your evil twin yet?
--- Pål_Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jostein wrote:
Anyway, I think Pentax will be more than happy to
establish themselves
with a market share in DSLRs comparable to the
share they have in film
DSLR.
True. And thats whats dissapoints
Hi!
BR It's really an anti-terrorist tactic.
Well, you obviously did not know, but it is very bad timing, you know.
Today, roughly 3 hours ago a bus was blown in Haifa by suicide bomber.
There are 15 dead and 32 wounded...
Sigh.
Boris
Not that
my FA*85mm f/1.4 won't see a lot of use, it just becomes a little more tele
than portrait but, for available light use, it and the 50mm will be my
primary lenses of choice.
Len,
That's exactly what I thought, but the 85mm lens turning into a 127mm
lens makes a superb tight portrait
The vast majority of computer and photographic gear that I buy makes
the trip across the pond to me.
Always on the lookout for couriers. Must be able to swallow 3 or 4 lenses
stashed into condoms.
I can almost sympathise with smugglers having just been gouged twice
this week by HM
Hey! Pal became Bruce R2. Not the other way round. As far as digital
goes, I think this ick *ist is the most appropriate product that Pentax
could have come up with. They will also sell lots of them when people go
in to buy 10D's and the stores are out of them.
BR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bruce Davidson did street photography in, I think, the 1960's, in Harlem
with a view camera. It's about how you work, rather than the equipment
that matters.
BR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi!
The idea of (candid/stealth) street photography keeps crossing my mind
more and more often. Since I
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
A F1.2 lens is LESS than a half-stop faster than a F1.4
Eh?
I thought it was was a halfstop? What's a halfstop quicker than 1.4? Is an
f1 lens not one full stop quicker?
--
http://www.infotainment.org - more fun than a poke in your eye.
Paul Franklin Stregevsky said:
f/1.2 is 0.45 stop faster than f/1.4
Gregory L. Hansen wrote:
Going up by halves,
f/1.0
f/1.2
f/1.4
So... is 1.2 half a stop faster than 1.4, or slightly less than half a
stop? I realize that this make no practical difference, but I'm curious
Well I wasn't offended, I'm actually fairly hard to offend. But I was
surprised.
At 12:40 AM 3/5/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Since it was coming from the cave, yous should have expected something
offending. Which it actually was. However, if you go beyond the initial
reaction, and read the
Steve
Bruce has it in a nutshell. Follow focus off centre subject. Mind you Mike
Powell had it down to a fine art way back when ('68) so how is it we can't
live without these aids these days?
Kind regards
Peter
Ah, yes. Caught in a temporal loop. How like the PDML sometimes.
At 06:48 AM 3/5/2003 -0500, you wrote:
You don't get a second chance on first impressions.
...unless you're Bill Murray on Groundhog Day.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
Hey, Mike's just fired his canon.
-Original Message-
From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 15:54
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Message from Mike Johnston
Hi!
I've just got a message from Mike Johnston where he told me he has
unsubscribed from PDML.
Agents, can you see agents?
-Original Message-
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 16:00
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Message from Mike Johnston
on 05.03.03 16:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why the sudden departure?
Well, must be those Canon agents again.
-Original Message-
From: Rob Brigham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 16:05
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: We have overlooked Optio33L! (where the hell did that come
from?)
I posted this on 19th FEB!!??
They'll end up on eBay in 6 months going for twice the price - what a
portrait lens for the *ist D! If I had waited, that would have been my
first purchase. Sorry Peter.
Not much chance of that. They are used in the manufacture of some large
specialised optical equipment or other.
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