Quite right. If one doesn't have anything useful to add, there's little
point in adding it.
But simple praise is useful on two levels. First, it shows that the
picture worked, in that it elicited a positive response, and second, we
all like a bit of praise occasionally. So, it works for
If you have a 32bit setting, you have [EMAIL PROTECTED] display with your
video card. It is normally assigned as three 8-bit bytes of a 32-bit
long word, the fourth 8-bit byte is often used for alpha channel
overlay stuff on some systems. It's simply more efficient to push
around 32bit
Thank you, Frank.
John
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:43:53 +0100, frank theriault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 4/23/05, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I like to build up a bit of anticipation before releasing the URL. :-)
http://www.johnpforbes.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/thames/_IGP0582.jpg
That's
Mrs Bornet said she was selling her original print and other items to
finance a film production company she wants to start with her husband.
Assuming she was 18 in 1950, that makes her 73 now. And she's setting up
a film production company. That's spirit for you.
John
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005
Mrs Bornet said she was selling her original print and other items to
finance a film production company she wants to start with her husband.
Assuming she was 18 in 1950, that makes her 73 now. And she's setting up
a film production company. That's spirit for you.
Indeed. But hasn't she
I think that free beer is a type of Freedom.
Your damn right it is, and down here in this bastion of
democracy people will fight to the death for it. ;)
ROFL ;~\
I like the first one better. Seems that the second one could have
been really cool with the repeating pattern of the flower, but I think
DOF is a problem with it.
The first one is pretty cool with the second out of focus flower
behind, sort of like a shadow of the first. The lighting is rather
Hi,
http://www.linuxjournal.com/aggregator/sources/7?from=60
link broken.
The GNU Project and Free Software Foundation (FSF) are based
on a philosophy commonly referred to as the GNU Philosophy
(can be read at
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html) postulated
and written
Hi Paul,
A couple of things. First, I never knew there was aflower called a
Bleeding Heart, so it's nice to have learned that and gotten to see an
example of what it looks like.
Not knowing what the flower looks like, its coloration, and so forth, I
can't comment on how the blossoms responded
Honestly,
What *is* this thing about some americans and marxism? I thought this phobia was
a thing of the cold war in the sixties and seventies...
Jostein
Quoting Collin R Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
http://www.oekonux.org/texts/marketrelations.html
and there's more, if you want to
For your perusal
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4367459.stm
If that report mentioned the word film, then half the PDML would be happy
to tell me (at great length) how film was dead. Or is it just me being
cynical? :-)
Chris
Moy,
If you have a lot of lenses, or plan to expand your current number, you should
also consider the system filters from makes like Cokin, Lee, Singh-Ray or
Tiffen. With these systems, you buy cheaper filter holders for each lens, and
use the same filter on all lenses. This way, you can invest
On 26 Apr 2005 at 8:40, Chris Stoddart wrote:
For your perusal
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4367459.stm
If that report mentioned the word film, then half the PDML would be happy
to tell me (at great length) how film was dead. Or is it just me being
cynical? :-)
It simply says
On Apr 26, 2005, at 12:54 AM, frank theriault wrote:
What type of flower is that? The green in the centre matches the bug
beautifully.
Ranunculus. A yellow one :)
Yes, I had to look up the spelling...
Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
On Apr 26, 2005, at 7:52 AM, Frantisek wrote:
Very good! I just wonder, did you soften the area around the bug, or
is it just natural shallow DOF ;-)
Shallow DOF. I shoot 35mm macro handheld most of the time so I'm
usually at about f/4.
In this case I was using 400 film so I've played with a
On Apr 26, 2005, at 12:54 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:
Sorry to hear about your problem, Fra. It seems to have been a bad
tech day all around.
It's because there are currently no sunspots.
Spaceweather.com shows a new one just coming onto the Earth-facing side
of the Sun so everything should be OK
On Apr 26, 2005, at 4:35 PM, Brian Dunn wrote:
Take an sRGB image, put it onto a CD, and go around to all the various
printing kiosks and order some 4x6s. Amazing variance in results.
Whites which go blue, blacks which go green, saturation and contrast
cranked way up, colors which are more
On Apr 26, 2005, at 6:04 AM, Bob W wrote:
People have been doing similar things for years. It's why the
photography
outlets changed from small, specialist places staffed by enthusiasts
and
experts who knew something about what they were doing, to
warehouse-sized
box-shifters who knew f*ck-all.
On Apr 26, 2005, at 2:39 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Adobe says that a 16-bit video card is required for CS2. I don't know
what
[EMAIL PROTECTED] depth means. Sounds like it's the same as 8-bits (3 x
8-bits).
16 bits per pixel for photo editing is seriously a waste of time.
24 bits per pixel is 8
On Apr 26, 2005, at 7:30 AM, Norman Baugher wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4481789.stm
I saw that in today's TV news. It sold for a rather substantial sum:
don't remember the value but it was several times the value of my
house.
Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
On Apr 26, 2005, at 1:25 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3310077
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3310084
I like the first one better.
To be honest I'm not that fond of ring flash but you've done well
despite that.
Cheers,
- Dave
Scott Loveless wrote:
This appears to be an alternate to proprietary RAW formats.
Alternative to DNG? Apologies if this has already been posted.
http://www.openraw.org/
Saw this on Luminous Landscape the other day. Doesn't sound like an
alternate to the RAW formats, just a guideline to some
JF all like a bit of praise occasionally. So, it works for me is worth
JF adding, IMHO, whereas it didn't work for me is not helpful (without
JF saying why), and is no more eloquent than silence.
Here I would disagree. Both are important to me, and sometimes
helpful. Of course it's better to
Scott Loveless wrote:
This appears to be an alternate to proprietary RAW formats.
Alternative to DNG? Apologies if this has already been posted.
http://www.openraw.org/
PS, related to RAW, you may or may not have seen Michael Reichmann's
endorsement of Capture One recently (where he talks
http://www.elvum.net/gallery/paw/ap16_crooked
Taken on a walk in the Peak District on a misty day in October 2004.
Pentax Super Program, SMCP-A 35-105/3.5, Agfa Ultra 100.
All comments and criticisms extremely welcome.
S
From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/04/26 Tue AM 07:38:48 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.
Honestly,
What *is* this thing about some americans and marxism? I thought this phobia
was
a thing of the cold war in the
On Apr 26, 2005, at 11:59 AM, Michael Nosal wrote:
My local lab uses an Agfa setup to print everything digitally.
I've noticed, especially when getting 120 film printed, that things
like pine tree foliage turns mushy. High contrast subjects remain
very sharp , but the trees and bushes in the
From: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My experience of retailers in general is that they NEVER have anything
in stock!
Too much choice. Except. when I visited, err, countries with limited
choice, _they_ had nothing in stock, too! Conclusion: it's a retail thing.
m
Hi all,
is it possible to take out the matte screen from a MZ-5n (ZX-5n)?
I see a small gap at the outher edge which might be there for any
(special?) replacement tool.
There's a small grain of dust just in the center of the screen which is
really annoying - on the inner side.
Are there any
On 2005-04-26 12:12, Martin Trautmann wrote:
Are there any service manuals around how to clean this body?
Hopefully it's as easy as described in
http://webhome.idirect.com/~trini/mztips.html
I did not see any replacement matte screens for the MZ-5 - thus I wonder
whether this part is
Thanks Frank. Actually, I already had names for the flowers. The one in
focus that's a bit more toward the center is Knarf. The one that's
more to the left is Frantisek. vbg. I think that for future
political discussions on the PDML, everyone should have to provide
metaphorical photographic
I buy all my major equipment from internet suppliers or on ebay. But I
buy a lot of everyday items from the local camera store. I probably
spend about three to four thousand a year there, most of it on paper,
ink, and chemicals. I used to buy my film from them as well. From time
to time I'll
Frank Theriault replied to my adventure in photojournalism thusly:
Sounds like fun Tom. Do you get a chance to see the prints? Like
might they get doubles at the time of processing, one set for you?
I don't think so. They will have some photos on display at our meeting
place but we won't get to
Thanks Shel. The Vivitar's bokeh is usually quite nice at 5.6 or 8. I
shot this at f11 because I wanted the background blossom to be more
identifiable. In general, I'd say it has very good bokeh. Here's
another example, which has been seen here before:
Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I go to the Isle of Man nearly every year because of the
wonderful opportunity to shoot motorcycle racing on real roads, up
close and personal.
Arrgh! extreme envy taking place here
;-)
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com
American Marxist phobia is actually more a thing of the fifties and
sixties. It's really quite dead. However, there are little pockets of
folks with rather extreme views who keep it alive in bits and pieces,
here and there. That's probably true of any system of beliefs anywhere
in the world.
Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Honestly,
What *is* this thing about some americans and marxism? I thought this phobia
was
a thing of the cold war in the sixties and seventies...
A lot of people (especially Americans) confuse Marxism with Soviet-style
communism (though why they should
Chris,
It's just you being cynical.
Cory
doesn't think film is dead but doesn't shoot much film lately.
- Original Message -
From: Chris Stoddart
Or is it just me being
cynical? :-)
Chris
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From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/04/26 Tue AM 11:16:34 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: FAJ 18-55 vs. Zenitar 16 Fisheye
Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I go to the Isle of Man nearly every year because of the
wonderful opportunity to shoot
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/04/26 Tue AM 11:20:07 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.
Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Honestly,
What *is* this thing about some americans and marxism? I thought this phobia
was
Hopefully it's as easy as described in
http://webhome.idirect.com/~trini/mztips.html
There's some interesting comments on the MZ-3:
With the grip the winder speed increases to 2.5 FPS
I never knew that, or noticed it.
Also it's AF software is improved over the MZ-5N allowing slightly faster
And presumably you'd need a panoramic lens to show Collin.
John
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:32:03 +0100, Paul Stenquist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Frank. Actually, I already had names for the flowers. The one in
focus that's a bit more toward the center is Knarf. The one that's
more to the
Hi all,
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3308195
Generally I'm not much of a flower lover but this one
I found quite nice. What do you think?
Best regards, Hans.
--
Hans Imglueck
+++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More +++
10 GB Mailbox, 100 FreeSMS
mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/04/26 Tue AM 11:20:07 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.
Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Honestly,
What *is* this thing about some americans and
I did not see any replacement matte screens for the MZ-5 - thus I wonder
whether this part is exchangeable easily.
I find the standard screen perfectly acceptable even for manual focus, there
again I used a SG (grid) screen in one of my MX's for years without problems.
The viewfinder window
Or with a 90 degree pan to the right.. But that's what makes life
interesting. This of course is all in the spirit of fun, says the
photographer safely out of view behind the camera :-).
On Apr 26, 2005, at 7:14 AM, John Forbes wrote:
And presumably you'd need a panoramic lens to show Collin.
Lovely. Great colours, and the out of focus parts work very well.
John
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:16:52 +0100, Hans Imglueck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3308195
Generally I'm not much of a flower lover but this one
I found quite nice. What do you
--- Martin Trautmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I did not see any replacement matte screens for the MZ-5 - thus I wonder
whether this part is exchangeable easily.
There is a metal clip, just lift it up a little and the frame will pop down. You
need to use a rigid tool with an angled tip for the
That is the same thing the guys at my lab are saying.
Digital is just a fad :)
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: Film is dead...
We have many professional and high-quality labs in
These are our neighbour's cats that visit us daily. Our house is almost like
their
2nd home. :-) Most were shot with BW400, some converted from colour negatives.
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan/cats
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
__
Do You
On 2005-04-26 04:44, Alan Chan wrote:
There is a metal clip, just lift it up a little and the frame will pop down.
You
need to use a rigid tool with an angled tip for the job. Just be extra
careful
with the screen however. Never ever try to wipe it with anything, use a
rubber hand
blower
I do think digital has kindled a new interest in photography generally,
and I also believe that it can't offer the thrill of watching a print
emerge in the glow of a safelight, or the same degree of satisfaction that
producing a good print can.
For that reason, I expect that bw film may
Ditto. Great shot. I love the balance of the composition and the
bright, clean light. Nice work.
Paul
On Apr 26, 2005, at 7:28 AM, John Forbes wrote:
Lovely. Great colours, and the out of focus parts work very well.
John
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:16:52 +0100, Hans Imglueck
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:32:03 -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote:
I think that for future
political discussions on the PDML, everyone should have to provide
metaphorical photographic evidence :-).
But there aren't any photos of Atilla the Hun! :-)
TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
--- Martin Trautmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The grid would be handy many times. Is the GG-60 Cross-Hair Matte from
the MZ-S suited as well?
You may use any grid screens for Pentax AF 135 bodies, that included FG-40
(SFX/SFXn), FG-50 (Z-1), FG-60(Z-1p) GG-60 (MZ-S). They have the same
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:39:22 -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote:
I buy all my major equipment from internet suppliers or on ebay.
But I buy a lot of everyday items from the local camera store.
I'm the same way. And they still get my processing business, too. When
I'm fully digital, they'll probably
Frank Theriault wrote:
The word libertarian is a pretty wide-ranging one. Most people (I
would guess) think of it as a whacko-right thing, but many on the left
consider themselves to be leftist libertarians, Chomsky likely being
the best known.
Not disputing what you said, Glenn, just expanding
Quoting Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
American Marxist phobia is actually more a thing of the fifties and
sixties. It's really quite dead. However, there are little pockets of
folks with rather extreme views who keep it alive in bits and pieces,
here and there. That's probably true
Quoting Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Quoting Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
American Marxist phobia is actually more a thing of the fifties and
sixties. It's really quite dead. However, there are little pockets of
folks with rather extreme views who keep it alive in bits and
Thanks Rob.
Jack
--- Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 25 Apr 2005 at 18:35, Jack Davis wrote:
--- Norman Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ROTFLMAO!
Norm (bwahahahahhahahahaha) B.
Jack Davis wrote:
snip reply to Wheatfield
or..you may need to look
On 2005-04-26 05:27, Alan Chan wrote:
--- Martin Trautmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The grid would be handy many times. Is the GG-60 Cross-Hair Matte from
the MZ-S suited as well?
You may use any grid screens for Pentax AF 135 bodies, that included FG-40
(SFX/SFXn), FG-50 (Z-1),
Free Beer Tomorrow
Seen on the side of a bar in Savannah, Ga, a few weeks ago.
Kenneth Waller
-Original Message-
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Apr 26, 2005 2:56 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.
I think that free beer is a
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005, Rob Studdert wrote:
It simply says that their share price has fallen due to their lack of
understanding of their market and hence the share markets reaction to their
over enthusiastic profit predictions.
Tsk, what fools they are; you'd think that with being in business
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/04/26 Tue PM 01:13:20 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Take a course in philosophy, will ya.
Quoting Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Quoting Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
American Marxist phobia is actually more a thing of
So where's the photo?
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Kenneth Waller
Free Beer Tomorrow
Seen on the side of a bar in Savannah, Ga, a few weeks ago.
So where's the photo?
Only in my mind. It's my reason to go back.
I saw it from the front seat of a Cab @ 65mph while on my way to the airport.
Kenneth Waller
-Original Message-
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Apr 26, 2005 9:47 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE:
From: Chris Stoddart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/04/26 Tue PM 01:45:41 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Digital is dead... Was: Film is dead...
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005, Rob Studdert wrote:
It simply says that their share price has fallen due to their lack of
Some really nice shots in there Alan. i like this one:
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan/image/42599091
The angle really works.
Christian
- Original Message -
From: Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:50 AM
Subject: Neighbouring Cats
On 26 Apr 2005 at 14:45, Chris Stoddart wrote:
Tsk, what fools they are; you'd think that with being in business since
1935 and with 270 stores in the UK they would have worked out their market by
now. But no, they stupidly overestimate their profits based on digital sales.
Sure, you would
Just got word that my new ebay lens has been shipped, a Kiron f/2
24mm K-mount. Apparently some people think well of this lens, not
that it matters much to me, bottom feeder that I am! It's coming all
the way up the East coast so I'll probably see it around the end of
the week, if I'm lucky.
--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: Optical or Digital Prints?
Guess you're too subtle for me. Difficult to
believe,
I know ;-)
In case this is your dilemma; If you control the
print
results, are you (or your
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005, Rob Studdert wrote:
Sure, you would think so but pandering to investment analysts by over
inflating profitability has really only come into vogue of late and yes
they obviously over-estimated their market.
Actually one of the points I have to give you is that Jessops
You are correct there, Shel. In addition actual focal length changes with
focus. External focus lenses get longer as you focus closer. Internal focus
lenses get shorter. I suppose one could do a cam coupled interal/external focus
lens that did not change focal length with focus, but I have
From: Chris Stoddart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Personally I hope it hurts them hard; they have become boring, soulless
shops since they became digiconsumer emporiums, taking over as many local
camera shops as they could in the process. But I do wonder what will
happen when we've reached
Digital will rise and fall around its new equilibrium sales point. Film
will do the same. The difference is that film had a much larger
infrastructure at a previous point, so it's a question of how much to
shut down. Digital is rising so it's a question of how much to build.
Both will
The optimist thinks his glass is half full.
The pestimist thinks his glass is half empty.
While the wise man simply enjoys his drink.
Translation: Go, and make wonderful photos.
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---
frank theriault
Hello Hans,
Well done. I like how the subject is off center and the leaf in front
has sharpness to the little spines sticking up.
--
Best regards,
Bruce
Tuesday, April 26, 2005, 4:16:52 AM, you wrote:
HI Hi all,
HI http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3308195
HI Generally I'm not
On 4/25/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I used to be an optomist too.
I was going to go to school to learn to be an optomist, but then I thought,
Not that many people wear glasses.
Paul
That tells me that minilabs are dying, not that film is dying. Of course here
in Boone if the mass marketer's minilabs all die you better have a darkroom of
your own because that is all that there is. However, traditionally (before the
photography boom of the 60's and 70's) people in the
I have to disagree totally with this. There is inothing in the least
unethical about going into a retail store to look at an item, even handle
it, and then not purchase it from them because it's too high priced. Just
as it's not unethical to go to a car dealer close to home, test drive a
- Original Message -
From: Graywolf
Subject: Re: Film is dead... (NOT)
That tells me that minilabs are dying, not that film is dying.
At this point, it works out to the same thing.
William Robb
Hi Scott ...
Did you figure out what she's doing?
Thanks for the comments ...
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Scott Loveless
Very nice, Shel. I do like this one. I've spent about five minutes
staring at it trying to figure out exactly what this woman is doing.
It looks like she's
A followup... I more often than not go to BH's website when I want to start
researching an item. I don't always buy it from them just because I used
the service their website provided. Is that unethical? No.
When a retail store prices an item 25-30% higher than where I can buy it
elsewhere,
GROAN! Sounds like something Steven Wright would say.
What do you call an Eskimo optometrist?
. An optical Alution
Shel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was going to go to school to learn to be an optomist, but then I
thought,
Not that many people wear glasses.
Actually, Bob, I beg to differ. Photography became big business. The money
grubbers, like Ritz, bought the camera stores from the camera enthusiasts. The
got rid of the interesting high-end stuff that did not sell fast, and replaced
them with a minilab. They laid off the decently paid
I stuck to the center pad a transparent plastic stop; it is a
transparent adhesive round, diameter 8mm, thickness 2mm.
The plastic does not slip under the finger and the pad is more handy, as
a joystick one pushes towards the direction desired instead of pushing.
The difference between the camera situation and the car situation is
that the online camera dealers are not able to demonstrate the product
to you. Whereas the more distant car dealer still has a lot, with cars
on it that you can look at. That is a more level playingfield.
There is nothing
We did not abandon the local shops, they abandoned us.
Amen. I'm sure there are some that closed simply to economic pressure.
Others sold out at a profit, I suspect...
Tom C.
From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Film is dead...
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:43:30 -0700
The difference between the camera situation and the car situation is that
the online camera dealers are not able to demonstrate the
Quoting Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Quoting Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
American Marxist phobia is actually more a thing of the fifties and
sixties. It's really quite dead. However, there are little pockets of
folks with rather extreme views who keep it alive in bits
--- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have recently been thinking about upgrading to
R1800...hmm...I
think I feel an enablement coming on.g
Dave S
Get it. You won't be sorry!
I bought one a couple of weeks ago. Fabulous quality.
Wendy
Wendy Beard
Ottawa, Canada
I don't know where you guys live. I find few mompop camera stores anyplace I
have lived. And the few I found I tended to spend time training the staff instead
of getting help from them. I have said before, I am willing to pay a bit of a
premium to be able to walk out of the store with the
http://www.chang-sang.com/photo/042505/crop035.jpg
No real title to this - the subject line of the thread was just to let you
know this is not a digital capture :D
From a wedding last weekend.
Tmax 3200 @ 1600
I still like film :)
I also like digital :)
Why can't we all just get along ;)
it's already happened in Japan and is expected to happen by the end of this
year in the US and Europe.
Herb...
- Original Message -
From: Chris Stoddart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: Digital is dead... Was: Film is
On Tuesday 26 April 2005 17:39, Michel Carrère-Gée wrote:
FJW I stuck to the center pad a transparent plastic stop; it is a
FJW transparent adhesive round, diameter 8mm, thickness 2mm.
FJW
FJW The plastic does not slip under the finger and the pad is more handy, as
FJW a joystick one pushes
And then they wonder why those guys don't come to them when they are actually
ready to buy?
First rule of salesmanship: Make the customer like you.
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
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Butch Black wrote:
That is a running joke where
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Good idea. I assume one can buy something like that? Where could I buy it?
Does it resolve the problems of operating this horrible four way switch?
It is a transparent adhesive plastic stop for the doors of pieces of
furniture.
Michel
I live in Idaho. There's a couple of national chain stores in the mall.
There are 5 or 6 Idaho Camera stores, a local chain, and a couple of
independents. Prices on bodies and lenses are typically MFR list price at
all of them. Only a foolish customer would pay list, IMO. Maybe if one was
On 25/4/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
I tend to be a smart ass.
Say it is not so!
Cheers,
Cotty
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That is how big auto dealerships make their profits. Sell at $50 below invoice.
Get a $500 per car rebate if they meet quota. Get another $100 per car if they
sell x number of cars that month. Get an incentive of $500/per car if they move
10 slow moving models. Get $50,000 if they sell 3000
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