Re: PESO - Another Cormorant

2006-10-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
Interesting, although the bugs are a distraction. You could clone them out. Just pretend you're cleaning up a film scan:-). Paul On Oct 4, 2006, at 4:36 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Ok. I took my latest enablement for a test spin. I took a lot of boring photographs of tiny birds in middle of frame

Re: Pentax Life

2006-10-04 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 3 Oct 2006, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Apart from anything else, our email addresses are no longer private. Given that anyone can subscribe to the list, they never were private. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: D-Xenogon 35

2006-10-04 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 03.10.2006, at 17:16 , Boris Liberman wrote: Which, just by the way, means that people who shoot other brands will have easy access to Pentax lenses *and coatings*. Other brands won't have weather sealings and ultrasonic AF in these new Tokinas ;-) And Tokina will have their own coatings

Re: Pentax Life

2006-10-04 Thread David Savage
True, but the shots of the old Pentax concept cameras were ripped straight from DPR. Dave On 10/4/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All of the images I saw on Pentax Life were Pentax PR pics that were also used on DPreview but were not exclusively theirs. Paul -- PDML

Re: K10D vs D80

2006-10-04 Thread Martin Trautmann
On 2006-09-29 14:25, Juan Buhler wrote: Of course, I suggested he goes with the K10D, saying that its specs are closer to a D200 than to a D80. He's leaning towards it, but says that he likes that Nikon has an 18-135 lens--he doesn't want to carry any extra lenses (!). He should take a

Re: RAW (DNG) and white balance question

2006-10-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 4, 2006, at 5:47 AM, Gonz wrote: I downloaded ACR 3.5 and I still see the strange tint. Its almost as if the Pentax software is writing the DNG incorrectly. Why not just adjust the white balance until it is correct and never mind what color temperature the RAW converter wants to

Re: PESO - Another Cormorant

2006-10-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Nice shot, I like the light. Unfortunately, the bugs in the air look like dust specks on a slide. Godfrey On Oct 4, 2006, at 9:36 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Ok. I took my latest enablement for a test spin. I took a lot of boring photographs of tiny birds in middle of frame (they where far from

Re: Pentax Life

2006-10-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
But they originally came from Pentax as well. They're PR pics. Anyone can use them. Paul On Oct 4, 2006, at 6:18 AM, David Savage wrote: True, but the shots of the old Pentax concept cameras were ripped straight from DPR. Dave On 10/4/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All of the

RE: PESO - Another Cormorant

2006-10-04 Thread Tim Øsleby
Thanks Dave. The light was pretty different from what you see here, but it was stunning. About the bugs, please see my reply to Paul. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Mann Sent: 4.

Re: Pentax Life

2006-10-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Since the PDML archives are searchable anonymously by the public, this is in fact a public forum. Godfrey On Oct 4, 2006, at 3:01 AM, John Coyle wrote: Shel, if you go to http://www.publicdomainregistry.com/whois/ and enter the domain name you will find it is published by a guy in

RE: PESO - Another Cormorant

2006-10-04 Thread Tim Øsleby
Thanks for looking Paul. I do see your point about the bugs. In fact I did clone some out. Those I did found distracting. The rest for some strange reason corresponds with an odd idea I have about the bird. I'm not able to communicate this idea in words, if the picture fails too, then I'm mute

Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

2006-10-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness. To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to be this parlance that is more British English than American English, though. To call something a nasty little bugger is often used in American English to mean

RE: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

2006-10-04 Thread Tim Øsleby
Bugger off, Frank ;-) What's wrong about that word? Why do you have so many wrong words? What's the point with a word, when it's wrong? Seriously: I may need an offline hint about this mysterious meaning of the word too. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message-

Re: PESO - Another Cormorant

2006-10-04 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Tim, I don't feel or think of anything in particular when I look at the picture. I just see a bird most probably in bird's natural habitat... I could probably think of something related to freedom but I must tell you it would mean I was really pullin' it. Like I said - I see an interesting

RE: PESO - Another Cormorant

2006-10-04 Thread Tim Øsleby
Thanks Godfrey. There is a massive critique against the bugs. Maybe I should rethink about them? ;-) The light is not natural. It is what I saw when playing with the file. Something beyond reality, and for some reason my vision included bugs ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)

Re: D-Xenogon 35

2006-10-04 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Which, just by the way, means that people who shoot other brands will have easy access to Pentax lenses *and coatings*. Other brands won't have weather sealings and ultrasonic AF in these new Tokinas ;-) And Tokina will have their own coatings (they have used glass and coatings from

Re: D-Xenogon 35

2006-10-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Lots of companies use Hoya glass, even Leica. I'm sure Pentax is using Hoya glass where appropriate. Shel [Original Message] From: Sylwester Pietrzyk Other brands won't have weather sealings and ultrasonic AF in these new Tokinas ;-) And Tokina will have their own coatings (they have

RE: PESO - Another Cormorant

2006-10-04 Thread Tim Øsleby
You are not the one to blame if it's not what I intended ;-) So, no reason to be sorry. Thanks Boris, appreciated. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: 4. oktober 2006 12:52

Re: Pentax Life

2006-10-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I suppose I was over reacting. Privacy is a very big issue with me. Shel [Original Message] From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: 10/4/2006 5:13:11 AM Subject: Re: Pentax Life On Tue, 3 Oct 2006, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Apart

Re: Pentax Life

2006-10-04 Thread David Savage
I'm not too sure of that. If Pentax were going to distribute photos I doubt they would have been taken through the display case at their Photokina stand. Also, I just went and had a look at the PentaxLife site. Since I first mentioned this a week or so ago he seems to have taken the pictures,

Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

2006-10-04 Thread David Savage
It's pretty mild language here. I tend to utter it when something stuffs up. An ad campaign a few years ago for Toyota New Zealand featured it quite heavily: http://www.videofoundry.co.nz/ianman/humour/bugger.html From what I've read it received 100+ official complaints in NZ and 1 here in Oz.

Re: PESO - Another Cormorant

2006-10-04 Thread Boris Liberman
Oh, by the way, the bugs absolutely don't bug me. On 10/4/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are not the one to blame if it's not what I intended ;-) So, no reason to be sorry. Thanks Boris, appreciated. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message-

RE: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

2006-10-04 Thread Tim Øsleby
Thanks Godfrey. There are so many words that are not proper. Sometimes I wonder what a list of proper words would look. How many entries? 20? Hopefully a bit more, but you get my point. To bug somebody is being a nuisance. I get that. And being a nuisance is also described as being an ass. I

Re: D-Xenogon 35

2006-10-04 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 04.10.2006, at 12:56 , Shel Belinkoff wrote: Lots of companies use Hoya glass, even Leica. I'm sure Pentax is using Hoya glass where appropriate. But SMC is Pentax own, isn't it? ;-) Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: D-Xenogon 35

2006-10-04 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 04/10/06, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 04.10.2006, at 12:56 , Shel Belinkoff wrote: Lots of companies use Hoya glass, even Leica. I'm sure Pentax is using Hoya glass where appropriate. But SMC is Pentax own, isn't it? ;-) Practically the same as the CZ T* coatings I

Re: Pentax Life

2006-10-04 Thread Adam Maas
Spam Reduction. And only that. -Adam Shel Belinkoff wrote: Well then, what's the point of trying to disguise the email addresses in the archives if it's not to provide some privacy? Shel [Original Message] From: Adam Maas Huh? The point of having a mailing list is to make

Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

2006-10-04 Thread Adam Maas
In english, almost all rude slang is either scatological or sexual. Damn and its variants are the major exception. Unlike say french, where much rude slang is blasphmemous. -Adam Tim Øsleby wrote: Thanks Godfrey. There are so many words that are not proper. Sometimes I wonder what a list

Re: D-Xenogon 35

2006-10-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Supposedly, although there has been discussion that it and the Zeiss T* coatings are the same or at least quite similar. I read more than once that Pentax and Zeiss had (and I can't recall exactly what it was) a relationship in developing their coatings. It's quite possible that over the years

Re: D-Xenogon 35

2006-10-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Yes ... certainly at one time, but as I noted elsewhere, they may have diverged at some point. A few years ago Mark Dalal and I compared his CZ T* 85/1.4 with my Pentax A* 85/1.4. They were much more alike than different. Shel [Original Message] From: Digital Image Studio But SMC is

Re: RE: PESO -- a proper portrait - Jocelyn

2006-10-04 Thread Mike Hamilton
Thanks, Tim. Jocelyn is not a model by any means. She's my girlfriend, and my frequent subject for class assignments. :) I was completeing an assignment on window lighting. I was using the A50/1.7 at 5.6 and 1/200s. Mike On 10/4/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A fine portrait IMO. I

Re: D-Xenogon 35

2006-10-04 Thread Adam Maas
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: On 04.10.2006, at 12:56 , Shel Belinkoff wrote: Lots of companies use Hoya glass, even Leica. I'm sure Pentax is using Hoya glass where appropriate. But SMC is Pentax own, isn't it? ;-) Cheers, Sylwek Yes, but SMC isn't glass, it's coatings. Pentax does

RE: PESO - Another Cormorant

2006-10-04 Thread mike wilson
From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/04 Wed AM 09:34:49 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO - Another Cormorant B/W? Could be worth a try. Thanks ;-) But I do wonder, does the idea get across? The bird sits still and silent through

Re: D-Xenogon 35

2006-10-04 Thread Steve Jolly
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: On 04.10.2006, at 12:56 , Shel Belinkoff wrote: Lots of companies use Hoya glass, even Leica. I'm sure Pentax is using Hoya glass where appropriate. But SMC is Pentax own, isn't it? ;-) SMC was revolutionary 30-odd years ago, but these days anyone with the

Captured Moments from the Streets of New York

2006-10-04 Thread Paul Sorenson
NPR piece on an exhibit at the National Gallery of Art w/photos by Walker Evans, Robert Frank, Helen Levitt and others, taken from 1938 through 1958. Includes a slide show sampler for another glimpse at history. Would be a good outing for anyone traveling to DC.

Re: D-Xenogon 35

2006-10-04 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
But we were talking about coatings :-) On 04.10.2006, at 14:35 , Adam Maas wrote: Yes, but SMC isn't glass, it's coatings. Pentax does its own coating, they buy their glass elsewhere (likely from Hoya). Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO -- Inchworm

2006-10-04 Thread Scott Loveless
Thanks! On 10/2/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting shot ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: Scott Loveless This is my daughter. As I was taking this, she was explaining to me that it was measuring her hand.

Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread Charles Robinson
On Oct 4, 2006, at 1:23, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I stumbled around and found I had it done without really thinking how i did it :) Now Im slothfully overloading on freecell There's something delightful about a person spending upwards of $1,000 on a machine and then using it to duplicate the

Re: PESO -- Inchworm

2006-10-04 Thread Scott Loveless
On 10/2/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 2, 2006, at 3:05 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: This is my daughter. As I was taking this, she was explaining to me that it was measuring her hand. http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/ photo#4981291498720985106 I

Re: PESO -- Inchworm

2006-10-04 Thread Scott Loveless
Thanks, Frank. Much appreciated. On 10/2/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/2/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is really a response to Paul's bandwagon thread. Yesterday was strange. I spent the afternoon in PJ mode, shooting a family picnic with the

Re: PESO -- Inchworm

2006-10-04 Thread Scott Loveless
On 10/2/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/2/06, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Knarf will be next! No, knarf will be last! I mean, I know digital's (nearly) inevitable for me, but I'll hang onto film until the bitter end. They'll have to pry it from my dead, bony

Re: D-Xenogon 35

2006-10-04 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 04.10.2006, at 14:33 , Digital Image Studio wrote: Practically the same as the CZ T* coatings I believe (and from my experience) According to various sources Pentax and Zeiss codeveloped SMC and T* coatings, so that's hardly surprise :-) Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

2006-10-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
The use of the word itself is not so bad. Its use in relation to molested children portraits is what may have been unintentionally offensive to some people. Dan On 10/4/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In english, almost all rude slang is either scatological or sexual. Damn and its

Re: PESO -- Inchworm

2006-10-04 Thread Scott Loveless
On 10/4/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kids teach you nature, life, death and other stuff. All the important things we tend to forget. It's wonderful. That they do, and yes it is. Thanks, Tim. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: PESO -- Inchworm

2006-10-04 Thread Scott Loveless
On 10/2/06, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me, too. Nice composition particularly. Thanks, Rick. Speaking of inchworms, though, the digital thing is creeping up on you, Scott. Your tag line Shoot more film! will be replaced with Shoot film!, then Shoot some film!, then Shoot a little

Re: You think you are a street photographer...

2006-10-04 Thread frank theriault
On 10/3/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hearing voices again, Frank? snip I always hear voices in my head, Shel. The trick is to ascertain which ones are real and which ones are imaginary. I find when I wear my aluminium foil helmet, it allows the real ones through, while fending

Re: Captured Moments from the Streets of New York

2006-10-04 Thread frank theriault
On 10/4/06, Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NPR piece on an exhibit at the National Gallery of Art w/photos by Walker Evans, Robert Frank, Helen Levitt and others, taken from 1938 through 1958. Includes a slide show sampler for another glimpse at history. Would be a good outing for

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: Pentax medium formats Basically what your saying is if you don't look close you cant Tell the difference. Well there is a difference IF YOU ACTUALLY LOOK. Its not something that's never seen either IMHO. What I am saying is if

Re: GESO: What I did on my summer vacation

2006-10-04 Thread William Robb
Thanks to everyone who took the time to wade through my website. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

2006-10-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? In english, almost all rude slang is either scatological or sexual. Damn and its variants are the major exception. Unlike say french, where much rude slang is blasphmemous. We are equal

Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

2006-10-04 Thread frank theriault
On 10/4/06, Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The use of the word itself is not so bad. Its use in relation to molested children portraits is what may have been unintentionally offensive to some people. I think that summarizes my feelings exactly, Dan. BTW, I brought it up to

Re: GESO: What I did on my summer vacation

2006-10-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby Subject: RE: GESO: What I did on my summer vacation Looks like you had a nice trip. I think I'll show the Rottie gallery to my wife. I like Rotties, and it is time to replace Ludvik, but she is afraid of them, so she says no. I hope these

Re: PESO -- Inchworm

2006-10-04 Thread Mat Maessen
On 10/4/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/ photo#4981291498720985106 I can buy that. The colors are a bit subdued, but I tend to like that in color photography. What brand of sparkle did you have in mind? Maybe a bit of curves

Re: Loose lens mount on used SMC Pentax-A Zoom...

2006-10-04 Thread Matt Kelch
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Matt Kelch Subject: Loose lens mount on used SMC Pentax-A Zoom... I recently picked up a used SMC Pentax-A 1:4 70-210mm zoom for around 40.00. Its in absolutely great condition, but the bayonet mount is a bit loose where it is

Re: Pentax Life

2006-10-04 Thread pnstenquist
Well, then he's apparently trying to keep things on the up and up. I'm sure Pentax appreciates what he's doing. So do I. Paul -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not too sure of that. If Pentax were going to distribute photos I doubt

RE: PESO -- two more

2006-10-04 Thread Bill Owens
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Loveless Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 9:59 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO -- two more Two more from my day with the K100D. The first was taken just before sunset:

Are you considering PSE 5.0?

2006-10-04 Thread Bill Owens
If so, check out; http://www.adobe.com/digitalimag/ideagallery/ Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

2006-10-04 Thread Scott Loveless
On 10/4/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? In english, almost all rude slang is either scatological or sexual. Damn and its variants are the major exception. Unlike say

PESO -- two more

2006-10-04 Thread Scott Loveless
Two more from my day with the K100D. The first was taken just before sunset: http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#4982033758228709394 The next is another portrait of my daughter: http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#4982033756927229970 Of course, any

Re: PESO -- two more

2006-10-04 Thread Scott Loveless
On 10/4/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A sweet and gentle moment ;-)) BTW, I liked the night shot too. Do you recall the tech details on that one? I'm really mostly interested in the ISO rating. Thanks, Shel. ISO 200, f11, multisegmented metering. I took several shots of this

RE: PESO -- two more

2006-10-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
A sweet and gentle moment ;-)) BTW, I liked the night shot too. Do you recall the tech details on that one? I'm really mostly interested in the ISO rating. Shel [Original Message] From: Scott Loveless The next is another portrait of my daughter:

PDML Mini-FAQ Link

2006-10-04 Thread gray_wolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/3/2006 11:07:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it doesn't take care of everything, actually. I've been treating myself to freecell - however, I can't bring the freecell window up to fill up the screen.. although the type on the tool bar for it got big.

Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

2006-10-04 Thread David Savage
On 10/4/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can't get the coffee out of my keyboard, yer buying me a new one. It's a bad sign when a man can't handle his coffee. Maybe it's time to switch to booze. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

2006-10-04 Thread frank theriault
On 10/4/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can't get the coffee out of my keyboard, [Robb's] buying me a new one. Yeah. Like that'll happen... cheers, frank g -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: D-Xenogon 35

2006-10-04 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/4/2006 6:07:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SMC was revolutionary 30-odd years ago, but these days anyone with the right software and a basic understanding of optics can design high performance multi-layer optical coatings. SMC is just a brand.

Re: PESO -- two more

2006-10-04 Thread Scott Loveless
On 10/4/06, Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two more from my day with the K100D. The first was taken just before sunset: http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#4982033758228709394 I love the God rays!!! The next is another portrait of my daughter:

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-04 Thread mike wilson
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/03 Tue PM 11:20:29 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog) On Oct 3, 2006, at 5:20 PM, mike wilson wrote: John Francis wrote: On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 04:01:08PM -0400, frank

Re: Pentax Life

2006-10-04 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/3/2006 10:18:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems that I can pull up anyone's email address just by clicking on a message. I was quite surprised to find that anyone could access the archives without being subscribed to the list. Shel You

Re: PESO -- two more

2006-10-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
No, not that one - the starry night shot showing the roof of the house. This one: http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#4978870170851409938 Shel [Original Message] From: Scott Loveless Shel Belinkoff wrote: A sweet and gentle moment ;-)) BTW, I liked the night

Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

2006-10-04 Thread David Savage
On 10/4/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/4/06, Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The use of the word itself is not so bad. Its use in relation to molested children portraits is what may have been unintentionally offensive to some people. I think that summarizes

Re: D-Xenogon 35

2006-10-04 Thread Steve Jolly
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not quite true. Canon lenses will flare in situations Pentax lenses won't. Not all Pentax lenses flare less, but a lot do. It wasn't just hype. Ah, now just because any idiot can design coatings as good as SMC, it doesn't mean that they do. ;-) S -- PDML

Re: Pentax Life

2006-10-04 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/3/2006 7:49:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This guy is providing a valuable service. I wouldn't say anything on the list that I didn't want other Pentax owners to hear. I find it a little paranoid to worry about him quoting the list. Quote away, I

Re: D-Xenogon 35

2006-10-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I was _stunned_ by the amount of flare produced by one of my Leica lenses. In the same situation there was no flare from the Pentax glass. Granted, the Pentax glass had an early coating (K-mount) and the Leica was quite a bit newer LOL Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not

Re: D-Xenogon 35

2006-10-04 Thread Steve Jolly
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not quite true. Canon lenses will flare in situations Pentax lenses won't. Not all Pentax lenses flare less, but a lot do. It wasn't just hype. Ah, now just because any idiot can design coatings as good as SMC, it doesn't mean that they do. ;-) S -- PDML

Re: Some more images...

2006-10-04 Thread Pål Jensen
Thanks to all of you for your very nice comments Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Pentax Life

2006-10-04 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/4/2006 8:09:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think not ... I already spend too much time in front of the computer. I need to get out more, exercise more, photograph more, socialize more ... I agree that you sometimes (often?) provide more info than

Re: D-Xenogon 35

2006-10-04 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 04.10.2006, at 16:42 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not quite true. Canon lenses will flare in situations Pentax lenses won't. Not all Pentax lenses flare less, but a lot do. It wasn't just hype. Exactly the same situation is with modern Minolta lenses. My friend who had FA 50/1.7 met his

Re: Pentax Life

2006-10-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I think not ... I already spend too much time in front of the computer. I need to get out more, exercise more, photograph more, socialize more ... I agree that you sometimes (often?) provide more info than is needed. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to google

Re: PESO -- Sunset over Guilford

2006-10-04 Thread frank theriault
On 10/3/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One last PESO for a while. http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_sunset.html Beautiful and serene. Love the colour of the sky. Very well composed - the boat's about perfect. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri

Re: D-Xenogon 35

2006-10-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Or maybe kit means that not just any idiot can design coatings as good. Just because there's some software out there that helps design such coatings doesn't mean that it comes with 30+ years of experience with coatings, collaboration with other great lens makers, and a feel for quality optics and

Re: GESO - A Wedding in Maine

2006-10-04 Thread frank theriault
On 10/1/06, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A good friend got married a month ago in a quaint chapel on the Maine coast. I wasn't the official photographer (fortunately), but took a lot of pics for the fun of it. http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=648705 Just catching up on

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-04 Thread gfen
On Tue, 3 Oct 2006, P. J. Alling wrote: I thought the 645 users were the junior brothers of the brotherhood, Ahem, that was the Little Brotherhood. ;) We were better than those Brotherhood types, if for no other reason than our backs were unbowed from lack of weight 'round our necks. I went

Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

2006-10-04 Thread P. J. Alling
Well isn't that what buggery is stuffing something up? David Savage wrote: It's pretty mild language here. I tend to utter it when something stuffs up. An ad campaign a few years ago for Toyota New Zealand featured it quite heavily: http://www.videofoundry.co.nz/ianman/humour/bugger.html

Re: 10mp DSLR enlargements

2006-10-04 Thread pnstenquist
For most subjects, I get nice 11 x 17 prints from my 6 megapixel camera. That's with Photoshop RAW converter interpolation to a 72 megabyte file. I expect to be able to get very nice 11 x 17s from the 10 megapixel. I think it will even prove quite good on highly detailed subjects like

RE: Are you considering PSE 5.0?

2006-10-04 Thread Bill Owens
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David J Brooks Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 11:29 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Are you considering PSE 5.0? I take it your happy with it Bill. Very happy with it. I hear it has curves, and a

10mp DSLR enlargements

2006-10-04 Thread Pål Jensen
How big enlargements can one expect to get out of a 10mp DSLR like the K10D? A3 format? I've never used a digital camera Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO - Another Cormorant

2006-10-04 Thread P. J. Alling
I like version two better. Tim Øsleby wrote: Ok. I took my latest enablement for a test spin. I took a lot of boring photographs of tiny birds in middle of frame (they where far from the shore yesterday). But this fella had come back to it's regular spot. I was shooting almost directly into

Re: Are you considering PSE 5.0?

2006-10-04 Thread David J Brooks
I take it your happy with it Bill. I hear it has curves, and a few other things added from The Mother Ship Dave Quoting Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If so, check out; http://www.adobe.com/digitalimag/ideagallery/ Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: RAW (DNG) and white balance question

2006-10-04 Thread Gonz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 4, 2006, at 5:47 AM, Gonz wrote: I downloaded ACR 3.5 and I still see the strange tint. Its almost as if the Pentax software is writing the DNG incorrectly. Why not just adjust the white balance until it is correct and never mind what color

RE: PAW - Sunflower

2006-10-04 Thread Tom C
Very very nice! Tom C. From: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PAW - Sunflower Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 22:23:00 +1300 Back to the pretty flower photos. I might print this one tomorrow.

Re: 10mp DSLR enlargements

2006-10-04 Thread Christian
Pål Jensen wrote: How big enlargements can one expect to get out of a 10mp DSLR like the K10D? A3 format? I've never used a digital camera it depends. I've made 20x30 inch prints from 6mp (*ist D) by upsizing and interpolation. The level of detail is pretty darn good too. Of course

Re: 10mp DSLR enlargements

2006-10-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 4, 2006, at 4:26 PM, Pål Jensen wrote: How big enlargements can one expect to get out of a 10mp DSLR like the K10D? A3 format? I find 180 to 200 ppi produces very satisfactory rendering quality for A3 and A3 Super sized prints. A K10D body produces full-frame image with

Re: PESO -- The other side of the tracks.

2006-10-04 Thread P. J. Alling
You're right the little 35 to 70mm isn't the sharpest lens Pentax ever made. It isn't even the sharpest zoom that Pentax ever made. It falls short a bit short when compared to the 20-35mm f4.0 or it's original stablemate the 70-210mm f4-5.6. But then the 20-35 is damn near the sharpest zoom

Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

2006-10-04 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/4/2006 8:50:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well isn't that what buggery is stuffing something up? == Now it's getting a bit offensive. Marnie :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO -- two more

2006-10-04 Thread Scott Loveless
On 10/4/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, not that one - the starry night shot showing the roof of the house. This one: http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#4978870170851409938 Sorry, Shel, I misunderstood. I don't recall the ISO right now. I'll take a look

Flat or punchy

2006-10-04 Thread Bruce Dayton
I have observed over time some preferences among many of the listers concerning how a photo should 'look' - I'm sure that some of it is in relation to the monitor that it is being displayed on, but some of it seems to be a preference. Back in the film days, you could look at a slide or print of

Re: 10mp DSLR enlargements

2006-10-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
What is upsampling and how is it done? Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi If more print output density or a larger print is desirable, you upsample either in the RAW conversion processing or in post processing. You get no more detail but the rendering is usually

Re: Pentax medium formats

2006-10-04 Thread Peter Jordan
There is an inevitable trade off between image size, camera size and convenience. Each of us will have a point at which they feel comfortable in this continuum. For some who value image quality above all, they're willing to carry a 10x8 field camera around with them, for others it's a Minox

Re: PESO - Another Cormorant

2006-10-04 Thread Cotty
On 4/10/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44261ref=author Lovely pic Tim. You might clone out the cormorant, it's a tad distracting ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-04 Thread keith_w
Bob W wrote: Well stated Keith! Especially the part about Bob W. and Christian being ~both~ wrong. LOL Keith's wrong about us both being wrong. Keith and Christian are both wrong, so obviously you're wrong about Keith being right - he's wrong. Right? Bob Uhhh, yes. keith -- PDML

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