and we're up

2012-12-12 Thread Doug Brewer

Thanks for all the notes and calls, folks. We should be good to go now.

Please don't forget to toss a few rupees into the pot when you get a 
chance.


carry on, then.

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Re: and we're up

2012-12-12 Thread Jack Davis
Doug,
Awhile back I ask for your snail mailing address so I could send you a rupee or 
two.
Renewing my request.

THANKS!

Jack
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Please don't forget to toss a few rupees into the pot when you get a chance.

carry on, then.

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PESO: Woodies

2012-12-12 Thread Jack Davis
 
Been hoping for a chance at a Wood duck shot for some time.
 
TA-DA!
 
Jack
 
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Re: Raw vs Jpeg on K-5

2012-12-12 Thread Bob Sullivan
I enjoyed seeing how this picture taken in RAW could be saved.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/115638976374047590388/posts/bTzntZr9Xky

Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: PESO: Woodies

2012-12-12 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jack,
Fine pictures.  Those ducks are almost clown colors!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Been hoping for a chance at a Wood duck shot for some time.

 TA-DA!

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Re: Raw vs Jpeg on K-5

2012-12-12 Thread David Parsons
The K-5 is very good.  I've taken shots in a dark room where the flash
didn't go off, and gotten a usable shot.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 I enjoyed seeing how this picture taken in RAW could be saved.

 https://plus.google.com/u/0/115638976374047590388/posts/bTzntZr9Xky

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Re: PESO: Woodies

2012-12-12 Thread Eactivist
Well, I think you got him. Nice close-ups. That  is some plumage.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

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jdavi...@yahoo.com writes:
Been hoping  for a chance at a Wood duck shot for some  time.

TA-DA!

Jack

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Re: and we're up

2012-12-12 Thread Eactivist
Query:  Where's the pot? Not having been  around for a while, I am clueless.

Thanks, Marnie

In a message  dated 12/12/2012 8:12:21 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
d...@alphoto.com  writes:
Thanks for all the notes and calls, folks. We should be good to go  now.

Please don't forget to toss a few rupees into the pot when you get a  
chance.

carry on, then.  


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Re: For those who thought the K-01 was ugly

2012-12-12 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 10 December 2012 18:40, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 There's a new sherrif in town:

 http://leicarumors.com/2012/12/10/leica-x2-paul-smith-limited-edition-now-shipping.aspx/

 This should work nicely for discreet street photography. [said the clown]

 Cheers,


—M.

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Re: and we're up

2012-12-12 Thread Doug Brewer

On 12/12/12 11:22 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

Doug,
Awhile back I ask for your snail mailing address so I could send you a rupee or 
two.
Renewing my request.

THANKS!

Jack


I forgot about that, Jack. Thanks, and I'll send it in private.


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Re: PESO - Wild Blue Yonder

2012-12-12 Thread Eactivist
Okay, resending the email that seemed to crash  the whole thing, heh (nyah, 
it was all the tablet and ipad senders, I am sure.  New-flanged technology, 
bah, humbug. I WILL stick with my old-fashioned  computer, thank you very 
much, which is actually a fairly new Lenovo laptop, so  there!).

Thanks, Marnie   From one seasoned lady to another.  :-)

In a message dated 12/11/2012 7:37:23 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
ann...@nyc.rr.com writes:
Oooh gald that one is still up here
I like  it

ann

On 12/11/2012 10:11, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
  Thanks, Jack!

 Marnie aka Doe  ;-)
  

 In a message dated  12/11/2012  5:48:40 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
 jdavi...@yahoo.com  writes:
 I hadn't seen  this. Glad now to have the chance to  compliment you on the
 composition and usual  quality  image.

 Jack

 From: eactiv...@aol.com   eactiv...@aol.com
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Monday,  December 10,  2012 11:55 PM
 Subject: Re: PESO - Wild Blue  Yonder

 Thanks to everyone  who looked and to those  who  commented (I guess ;-)).

 Marnie aka  Doe

 It reminded me of a blue   white 57 Ford I once  had, my first  car 
(about
 age 16). We thought it was  dying,  sold it to a friend  (cheap) with a
 warning
 and,   surprisingly, it ran another 5 years for  her. But I knew it was
  probably  later, it had big fins and this  didn't.
  --

 In  a message dated   12/10/2012 12:43:58 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
  webstertwenty...@gmail.com writes:
 My parents owned a '55 Chevy,   painted  black with exactly that hood
 ornament.  The only  thing on  the car that  didn't break.  The interior
 cloth  upholstery was  notable for it's being  woven out of mouse  hair.

 On 12/10/2012 12:06  PM, eactiv...@aol.com   wrote:
 The full title of this actually is  Taking Off   Into The  Wild Blue
 Yonder.
 But I thought  that  might be a little long for  the  subject  line.

   Taken in old town Fremont, CA. A  friend  and I were there  for  
another
 photographic  reason when we ran into  some enthusiasts (I  think there
 had  been a
 show  earlier).

 I  haven't  seen very many of these ornaments. I  liked itsshadow.

 http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/blueyonder.html

 Comments  welcome.


 Marnie aka Doe :-)   No idea as  to  year and all that, but  the make  is
 obvious.





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Re: and we're up

2012-12-12 Thread Doug Brewer

On 12/12/12 11:51 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

Query:  Where's the pot? Not having been  around for a while, I am clueless.

Thanks, Marnie


It's on the front page of www.pdml.net, Marnie. Thanks.

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Re: PESO: Oil Can (Carl Zeiss Jena 2.4/35 electric MC Flektogon)

2012-12-12 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 10 December 2012 23:15, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for all the nice comments and to all who took a peek.

 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Chris Mitchell
 chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
 That's rather good

 Chris, you don't happen to be British, do you?
 http://static.neatorama.com/imagesb/2012-12/05/what-the-british-say-and-what-they-mean-translation-guide.jpg
 : )


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Re: PESO: Woodies

2012-12-12 Thread Jack Davis
Yeah, cartoonish. Thanks, Bob.
I'm claiming I applied almost NO saturation. Just a nudge of blue and green.

Jack

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Jack,
Fine pictures.  Those ducks are almost clown colors!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Been hoping for a chance at a Wood duck shot for some time.

 TA-DA!

 Jack

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RE: Raw vs Jpeg on K-5

2012-12-12 Thread Gerrit Visser
I count on that with my K5 at some events. My wife shot a high school
reunion this year in not-stellar lighting. Almost all the photos were
usable. The bonus was that most of the people didn't know the camera was
there, made for great expressions.

Gerrit


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The K-5 is very good.  I've taken shots in a dark room where the flash
didn't go off, and gotten a usable shot.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
wrote:
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Re: PESO: Woodies

2012-12-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Stunning colors and great detail in the plumage!  I also like the
patterns in the water in the first one.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Been hoping for a chance at a Wood duck shot for some time.

 TA-DA!

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RE: and we're up

2012-12-12 Thread Gerrit Visser
Wow, pot is legal now? Yeah Pentax!!!

Gerrit



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Sent: December 12, 2012 11:52 AM
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Query:  Where's the pot? Not having been  around for a while, I am clueless.

Thanks, Marnie

In a message  dated 12/12/2012 8:12:21 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
d...@alphoto.com  writes:
Thanks for all the notes and calls, folks. We should be good to go  now.

Please don't forget to toss a few rupees into the pot when you get a chance.

carry on, then.  


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Re: PESO: Woodies

2012-12-12 Thread Jack Davis
Yeah, it's electric. I honestly thought I was going to receive some criticism 
for having over saturated them.
Thanks, Marnie.

Jack

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Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: Woodies

Well, I think you got him. Nice close-ups. That  is some plumage.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a message dated 12/12/2012  8:39:03 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
jdavi...@yahoo.com writes:
Been hoping  for a chance at a Wood duck shot for some  time.

TA-DA!

Jack

Comments  welcome!

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Reflections on contributions from (and to) the PDML

2012-12-12 Thread Stan Halpin
There was recent hiatus in PDML activity. And then Doug announced that we are 
back up, to which he appended a comment about the continuing need for financial 
contributions to cover the server costs. All of this got me thinking.

What benefit(s) do I receive from membership in the PDML?
- PESOs - I don't view these as often as I should, and I comment even 
less frequently, but every time I do dip into this aspect of the PDML, I am 
informed and inspired. The critiques offered show me different ways of viewing 
and thinking about my own and others' images.
- PUG - Again, I don't participate as often as I should. But I do at 
least think about which of my images would best fit the monthly theme, I do 
think about what new shots I might take using the theme as an assignment of 
sorts, and it is always useful to see how the contributors have interpreted the 
theme.
- Purchases and sales - Over the years I have bought from and sold many 
lenses and a few cameras and accessories to list members. I have had no bad 
experiences on eBay, buying or selling, but still there is much more 
satisfaction and less anxiety involved in equipment exchanges with people I 
know through the PDML.
- Prattle - The general discussions are often fun to follow, 
occasionally informative, and provide a pleasant free time diversion. The list 
membership is an extended storehouse of much useful and/or esoteric 
information, and people tend to be quite generous in sharing that information 
and/or their opinions.
- People - Last, but definitely first in importance, are the members of 
the list I have come to know virtually through the PDML and especially those I 
have come to know in person. It is a great community.

So what do I contribute to PDML?
- Occasional comments, FWIW, on PESOs, PUGs etc.
- A dormant website with collected informed opinions about many of the 
Pentax legacy lenses.
- The occasional rupee when Doug reminds us of the financial realities 
of maintaining the list.

My early New Year's resolution is to:
- participate more actively in all aspects of the PDML  
- maybe, just maybe, try to update the lens-opinion web site.
- contribute to the PDML maintenance fund 5% of every camera-equipment 
sale which is facilitated by my occasional FS Friday listing.

stan


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Re: PESO: Woodies

2012-12-12 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Dan!
The water was a little mud stained from the endless rains we've been receiving. 
May try for some cleaner water and some reflected background fall color 
earlier next year
 
Jack. 

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Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: Woodies

Stunning colors and great detail in the plumage!  I also like the
patterns in the water in the first one.
Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Been hoping for a chance at a Wood duck shot for some time.

 TA-DA!

 Jack

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Re: Lanyon a very small town in Iowa

2012-12-12 Thread Don Guthrie


Hey thanks for looking Marnie. Its a grain elevator and an abandoned one 
at that. It was the reason for the town's existence. That church is the 
only attraction now. It had four cars on a Sunday morning. Hope to see 
more of your comments and posts. I will take another look at those cars too.



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 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 02:51:21 -0500 (EST)
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 Subject: Re: Lanyon a very small town in Iowa
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

 Very nice. Love the grain silo (or whatever it  is). The BW/color
 rendition of the car shots is a bit over the top for me,  personally, 
though. Looks

 a tad TOO grainy, I'd ratchet down a notch.

 But  a very nice gallery overall. Captures the mood.

 HTH, Marnie aka Doe:-)

 In a message dated 12/10/2012 10:16:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
 shark50...@gmail.com  writes:
 These photos represent a trip down Mainstreet in  Lanyon a very small
 town without zoning.

 Comments always read   appreciated.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157632119002800/


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Re: PDML Digest, Vol 80, Issue 85

2012-12-12 Thread Don Guthrie
Both great! The second one in particular is so sharp, colorful and a 
perfect angle worthy of a professional bird-book.



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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 08:38:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Jack Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: Woodies
Message-ID:
1355330339.16066.yahoomail...@web124501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

?
Been hoping for a chance at a Wood duck shot for some time.
?
TA-DA!
?
Jack
?
Comments welcome!
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http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=663
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http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=664




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Mini-GESO: Sunrise 12/11/2012

2012-12-12 Thread Walt
Taking another shot at posting a few images from yesterday morning, 
taken just before I finally rolled in from a night of revelry and 
debauchery.


Taken with my K20D and FA 50/1.4

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157632224235652/

As always, comments and suggestions are eagerly accepted.

Thanks!

-- Walt

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Help requested from ColorMunki Display owners

2012-12-12 Thread Igor Roshchin


Dear All:

If you do not have ColorMunki Display (Part number CMUNDIS),
you can skip this message.

If you do have one and sitll have the box, I would appreciate if you
can help me by checking the UPC code(s) on the box.
(the numbers that are next to the barcode


Off the list, please let me know:
1. What is the UPC number:
 a) 848826026466
 b) 7640111922452
 c) both

 (d) 7640111922452?

And additionally, but much less important
2. (if you don't mind and remember) Where did you buy it?
 a) Outside of the USA
 b) In the US: what reseller.

If you are curious about what I am trying to do:
I am trying to figure out certain issues related to the currently going
MIR for this product. And contraversy is that the MIR form shows one
UPC, while two different UPC codes appear with different resellers.
I spoke with the customer support for some resellers and for the 
company that does the distribution of the product in the US
(Xrite Photo), and they were unable to give anywhat reasonable response.

Two possibilities that I suspect are possible are:
1. Different UPCs are used for different routes of distribution
(e.g. US vs. European markets)
2. 848826026466 is not a UPC code but what is called Model/Product Number
(aks MPN) and it is present on the box along with the actual UPC code.
So, the resellers mistakenly list that number instead of the UPC code.


Thank you,

Igor



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Re: Lanyon a very small town in Iowa

2012-12-12 Thread Eactivist
BTW, you should have put GESO - in the subject  line and more would have 
looked.

HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a  message dated 12/12/2012 9:20:07 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
shark50...@gmail.com writes:
Hey thanks for looking Marnie. Its a grain  elevator and an abandoned one 
at that. It was the reason for the town's  existence. That church is the 
only attraction now. It had four cars on a  Sunday morning. Hope to see 
more of your comments and posts. I will take  another look at those cars 
too.  


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RE: Reflections on contributions from (and to) the PDML

2012-12-12 Thread Gerrit Visser
Well said.
I joined only recently at the behest of Bruce W. and already benefited in
some of the ways that you describe, mostly from learning how to look again.
Wish I had joined sooner but somehow the timing is still good.

Donated some florins, but other contributions will take a break as we are
embarking at end of month for a 90+ day cruise to Indonesia and back. The
re-learned skills should result in some decent photos :-)


Gerrit

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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Stan Halpin
Sent: December 12, 2012 12:11 PM
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Subject: Reflections on contributions from (and to) the PDML

There was recent hiatus in PDML activity. And then Doug announced that we
are back up, to which he appended a comment about the continuing need for
financial contributions to cover the server costs. All of this got me
thinking.

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Re: Rokinon 85/1.4 on sale at BH

2012-12-12 Thread Don Guthrie
As it happens I had my Rokinon 85mm 1.8 on my K-01 this weekend so I 
guess this post is pertinent to two recent subjects. Here is the link to 
a photo taken handheld and has been substantially cropped. There were 
four others not even close to in-focus. The DOF is very thin wide open. 
But it would be a waste to shoot this lens at f11 all the time.


http://donspix.posterous.com/#!/


pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 4 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:18:55 -0800 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
gdigio...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Rokinon 85/1.4 on sale at BH Message-ID:
cac+wr3szdhkl8i8exkfz4mafhx3g2qdd5okm_ezsrooea8e...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at
3:51 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:


On Dec 10, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:



This lens appears on BH for $239 today:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?is=REGQ=A=detailsO=productlistsku=905019


I wish I could afford to save that much money.

I've heard good things about this lens.  Does anyone know how it compares 
optically with the Sigma 85/1.4 or the old Pentax 85/1.4?  Both of which cost 
several times as much, but are also autofocus.

I've heard the Samyang 85/1.4 compared against the Zeiss 85/1.4 and
did remarkably well. (The Zeiss is certainly a better performer, the
difference is smaller than expected.)


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Re: GESO - tango @ ISO-6400

2012-12-12 Thread Igor Roshchin

Rick, heh!
Humans are weak, aren't they?

You've got some interesting photos there.
(Is that your daughter?)

The technical nuance is that the gallery I put out consists of
shots taken at ISO-6400. They aren't the best shots from the evening,
but I appreciate the quality that I wouldn't have been able to obtain
with my K-7 without the flash.
Not having had any personal experience with K-5, I am not in position
to compare K-5 vs K-5 IIs. (That gives me a hope that I won't gain
an extra hater this week.)

Cheers,

Igor




Mon Dec 10 21:03:32 EST 2012
Rick Womer wrote:

 I am weak, and I looked at them anyway!
 
 Very nice set, but I don't hate you yet, because you haven't shown me
 how my K-5 might be inferior to the IIs.
 
 Heck, I shot this set of dance pix with a K10D:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=946280
 
 FWIW, I think the AF on the K-5 is considerably better (especially with
 moving subjects) than on the K-7 (I have both).
 
 Cheers,
 
 Rick

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PESO - Advent window

2012-12-12 Thread George Sinos
Tried to send this yesterday and got a bounce.  Now that we're back, here it is.

This is another of the twelve major windows from the current church project.

http://georges.posterous.com/advent-window-st-bridgets-church

I thought I'd post this photo since we're currently in the Advent season.

From the standpoint of technical curiosity, my suggestion is to click
on the photo and look at the larger version.  There are a lot of
subtle variations in the colors of the glass.  I also just recently
noticed a some small reflections of color in the major horizontal
window frame.

I won't be able to get this submitted in book-form and see the first
test copy until January.  I'm not sure how much of the detail will
show up on the printed page.  It does show well on glossy paper when
printed with an inkjet printer, but I'm not expecting that level of
detail in a book.

Anyone that has used blurb have any comments?

gs

George Sinos

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www.georgesphotos.net
plus.georgesinos.com

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OT: Nat'l Geographic: Editor's Picks - Best Space Pictures of 2012

2012-12-12 Thread Darren Addy
Thought some might enjoy these:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/12/pictures/121211-best-space-2012-endeavour-mars-rover-nasa-science/

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Re: Rokinon 85/1.4 on sale at BH

2012-12-12 Thread Miserere
Based on theoretical assumptions alone, I would imagine it's a lot
easier to focus this lens on the K-01's live view, while at the same
time the lack of an EVF makes holding the camera steady harder, thus
making correct focus distance harder too. Do both of these cancel out,
thus making this lens as hard to focus correctly as on a mirrorfull
Pentax?

Cheers,

   —M.

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On 12 December 2012 12:28, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 As it happens I had my Rokinon 85mm 1.8 on my K-01 this weekend so I guess
 this post is pertinent to two recent subjects. Here is the link to a photo
 taken handheld and has been substantially cropped. There were four others
 not even close to in-focus. The DOF is very thin wide open. But it would be
 a waste to shoot this lens at f11 all the time.

 http://donspix.posterous.com/#!/


 pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

 Message: 4 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:18:55 -0800 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
 gdigio...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Rokinon 85/1.4 on sale at BH Message-ID:
 cac+wr3szdhkl8i8exkfz4mafhx3g2qdd5okm_ezsrooea8e...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at
 3:51 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 
 On Dec 10, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
 

 
 This lens appears on BH for $239 today:

  http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?is=REGQ=A=detailsO=productlistsku=905019

 
 I wish I could afford to save that much money.
 
 I've heard good things about this lens.  Does anyone know how it
  compares optically with the Sigma 85/1.4 or the old Pentax 85/1.4?  Both 
  of
  which cost several times as much, but are also autofocus.

 I've heard the Samyang 85/1.4 compared against the Zeiss 85/1.4 and
 did remarkably well. (The Zeiss is certainly a better performer, the
 difference is smaller than expected.)


 -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com



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PESO - Wheeeee!

2012-12-12 Thread Eactivist
They are dropping... I was in a raised area that  put me level with them a 
little above mid-way.

Pretty bright,  high-contrast day, but I've lightened shadows about as much 
as I am comfortable  with.

One of my rare attempts at street photography, taken at San Cruz  
Broadwalk, California, this past  year.

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/whe.html

Comments  welcome.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  


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Re: Mini-GESO: Sunrise 12/11/2012

2012-12-12 Thread Jack Davis
Nice!

Jack
- Original Message -
From: Walt ldott...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:21 AM
Subject: Mini-GESO: Sunrise 12/11/2012

Taking another shot at posting a few images from yesterday morning, taken just 
before I finally rolled in from a night of revelry and debauchery.

Taken with my K20D and FA 50/1.4

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157632224235652/

As always, comments and suggestions are eagerly accepted.

Thanks!

-- Walt

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Re: PESO - Advent window

2012-12-12 Thread Jack Davis
Extremely well done..as usual, George. Precise focus and exposure.

Jack
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From: George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
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Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:38 AM
Subject: PESO - Advent window

Tried to send this yesterday and got a bounce.  Now that we're back, here it is.

This is another of the twelve major windows from the current church project.

http://georges.posterous.com/advent-window-st-bridgets-church

I thought I'd post this photo since we're currently in the Advent season.

From the standpoint of technical curiosity, my suggestion is to click
on the photo and look at the larger version.  There are a lot of
subtle variations in the colors of the glass.  I also just recently
noticed a some small reflections of color in the major horizontal
window frame.

I won't be able to get this submitted in book-form and see the first
test copy until January.  I'm not sure how much of the detail will
show up on the printed page.  It does show well on glossy paper when
printed with an inkjet printer, but I'm not expecting that level of
detail in a book.

Anyone that has used blurb have any comments?

gs

George Sinos

gsi...@gmail.com
http://www.georgesphotos.net/
plus.georgesinos.com

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Re: Mini-GESO: Sunrise 12/11/2012

2012-12-12 Thread Eactivist
Nice Geso. Top one is a very unusual cloud, sort  of end of the worldish. 
Is that a flock of birds in front of the cloud? Nice  shot.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  To give it more impact, I'd clone out the  little bit 
of cloud sticking in on the left. But that is me.

In  a message dated 12/12/2012 9:21:47 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
ldott...@gmail.com writes:
Taking another shot at posting a few images from  yesterday morning, 
taken just before I finally rolled in from a night of  revelry and 
debauchery.

Taken with my K20D and FA  50/1.4

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157632224235652/

As  always, comments and suggestions are eagerly accepted.

Thanks!

--  Walt  


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Re: PESO - Wheeeee!

2012-12-12 Thread Jack Davis
Yes, I would wh my pants.

Jack
 
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To: pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:02 AM
Subject: PESO - Whe!

They are dropping... I was in a raised area that  put me level with them a 
little above mid-way.

Pretty bright,  high-contrast day, but I've lightened shadows about as much 
as I am comfortable  with.

One of my rare attempts at street photography, taken at San Cruz  
Broadwalk, California, this past  year.

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/whe.html

Comments  welcome.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  


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Re: PESO - Advent window

2012-12-12 Thread Eactivist
Nice, nicely backlit. Not easy getting stained  glass windows.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)
-

In a message dated  12/12/2012 9:38:18 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
gsi...@gmail.com writes:
Tried  to send this yesterday and got a bounce.  Now that we're back, here 
it  is.

This is another of the twelve major windows from the current church  
project.

http://georges.posterous.com/advent-window-st-bridgets-church

I  thought I'd post this photo since we're currently in the Advent  season.

From the standpoint of technical curiosity, my suggestion is to  click
on the photo and look at the larger version.  There are a lot  of
subtle variations in the colors of the glass.  I also just  recently
noticed a some small reflections of color in the major  horizontal
window frame.

I won't be able to get this submitted in  book-form and see the first
test copy until January.  I'm not sure how  much of the detail will
show up on the printed page.  It does show well  on glossy paper when
printed with an inkjet printer, but I'm not expecting  that level of
detail in a book.

Anyone that has used blurb have any  comments?

gs

George  Sinos

gsi...@gmail.com
www.georgesphotos.net
plus.georgesinos.com

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Re: PESO - Wheeeee!

2012-12-12 Thread Eactivist
Heh. Me too. And that was considered a child's  ride, in the area for 
children.

Marnie ;-) Needless to say I rode  nothing, I did do laser tag (fun) and 
some shooting gallery stuff. I can point  and shoot, after all. 

In a message dated 12/12/2012 10:13:29 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
jdavi...@yahoo.com writes:
Yes, I would wh my  pants.

Jack

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From:  eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com
To: pdml@pdml.net
Cc:  
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:02 AM
Subject: PESO -  Whe!

They are dropping... I was in a raised area that  put me  level with them a 
little above mid-way.

Pretty bright,   high-contrast day, but I've lightened shadows about as 
much 
as I am  comfortable  with.

One of my rare attempts at street photography,  taken at San Cruz  
Broadwalk, California, this past   year.

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/whe.html

Comments   welcome.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  


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Re: and we're up

2012-12-12 Thread Rick Womer
1 Rupee = $ 0.02 US.

Maybe you should be greedier, Doug.

Glad to have the list back!

Rick
 
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Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:10 AM
Subject: and we're up

Thanks for all the notes and calls, folks. We should be good to go now.

Please don't forget to toss a few rupees into the pot when you get a chance.

carry on, then.

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Re: PESO: Woodies

2012-12-12 Thread Paul Sorenson

Beautiful - both of 'em.  If I had to pick one, it would be 663

On 12/12/2012 10:38 AM, Jack Davis wrote:


Been hoping for a chance at a Wood duck shot for some time.

TA-DA!

Jack

Comments welcome!

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=663

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=664



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Re: and we're up

2012-12-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:
 Thanks for all the notes and calls, folks. We should be good to go now.

 Please don't forget to toss a few rupees into the pot when you get a chance.

 carry on, then.

I went with shekels.

Thanks for keeping the list running so smoothly, Doug. When it's down,
it is missed.

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Re: Rokinon 85/1.4 on sale at BH

2012-12-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 Based on theoretical assumptions alone, I would imagine it's a lot
 easier to focus this lens on the K-01's live view, while at the same
 time the lack of an EVF makes holding the camera steady harder, thus
 making correct focus distance harder too. Do both of these cancel out,
 thus making this lens as hard to focus correctly as on a mirrorfull
 Pentax?

A tripod solves both problems.

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[PlainText] Testing from iPad.txt

2012-12-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The old Balda Baldix was cleaned and serviced; I'd picked it up a few weeks 
back. Finally loaded a roll of film and took it out on Saturday morning ...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8266575646/lightbox

Thanks for looking! Comments always appreciated.

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PESO 2012 - 138 - GDG

2012-12-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
(Repost to clean up bad subject line.)

The old Balda Baldix was cleaned and serviced; I'd picked it up a few weeks 
back. Finally loaded a roll of film and took it out on Saturday morning ...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8266575646/lightbox

Thanks for looking! Comments always appreciated.

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Re: Lanyon a very small town in Iowa

2012-12-12 Thread Jack Davis
Like all these, Don, but that grain elevator is a very well composed strong 
image.

Jack


- Original Message -
From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com
To: pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: Lanyon a very small town in Iowa


Hey thanks for looking Marnie. Its a grain elevator and an abandoned one at 
that. It was the reason for the town's existence. That church is the only 
attraction now. It had four cars on a Sunday morning. Hope to see more of your 
comments and posts. I will take another look at those cars too.


pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 02:51:21 -0500 (EST)
 From:eactiv...@aol.com
 To:pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Lanyon a very small town in Iowa
 Message-ID:2a1f.2d9bd28c.3df83...@aol.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

 Very nice. Love the grain silo (or whatever it  is). The BW/color
 rendition of the car shots is a bit over the top for me,  personally, though. 
 Looks
 a tad TOO grainy, I'd ratchet down a notch.

 But  a very nice gallery overall. Captures the mood.

 HTH, Marnie aka Doe:-)

 In a message dated 12/10/2012 10:16:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
 shark50...@gmail.com  writes:
 These photos represent a trip down Mainstreet in  Lanyon a very small
 town without zoning.

 Comments always read   appreciated.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157632119002800/


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Re: PESO - I picked Abraham Lincoln's nose

2012-12-12 Thread Miserere
John,

I'm sorry my Cosina is not living up to your expectations...but seeing
your rig I'm wondering about how insanely high your expectations might
be  :-D

Your link to Abraham's nose takes me to your pile o' extension tubes 
stuff , and when I look at the complete album I can see you drinking
out of a lens, for example, but no Lincoln penny to be found.

You can calculate the magnification power of your set up with a ruler.
Take a photo of it as close as you can, parallel to the ruler, and the
ruler running from side to side of the frame. Look at the image and
count how much of the ruler you've photographed. If you're using
millimeters, let's say your picture shows 12mm of the ruler. An APS-C
sensor is 24mm wide, so your magnification ratio is 12/24 = 0.5, so
you can say your macro capability is 1:0.5 (or 2:1 if you prefer). If
the image you'd taken was 24mm across, then your macro ratio would be
1:1, or life size, which is what macro lenses (such as your 100mm
f/2.8) typically reach.

You might find these articles on my site useful:

http://enticingthelight.com/2009/02/02/shooting-macros-section-1-equipment/
http://enticingthelight.com/2009/02/07/shooting-macros-section-2-the-small-world/
http://enticingthelight.com/2009/02/26/shooting-macros-section-3-the-math/

Cheers,

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On 12 December 2012 13:14, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote:
 I recently bought an inexpensive Cosina 28mm lens from Miserere with
 the intention of reverse-mounting it on my pile o' extension tubes 
 stuff (illustrated with a different lens here: http://goo.gl/WcvoZ) to
 see what could be done with such immense magnification powers. For my
 first subject, I picked a penny.

 As luck would have it, Abe's nose was the first thing I saw in my
 viewfinder: http://goo.gl/Xi8vs

 That's some serious magnification there. I have no clue how to
 calculate what the macro ratio is, but there's not much point to it at
 the moment. I appear to have gone beyond the resolving power of the
 lens. All the photos I took are very soft, regardless of the aperture
 I used. This one looks a teeny bit sharp on the nose, but I think
 that's an illusion.

 (Reference for those who don't know what a US penny looks like:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_penny. Note that the article also
 mentions the size of the coin if you want to try to figure out the
 scale here.)

 I'm going to keep playing with this setup, but in the meantime I'll
 save up for a sharper lens. I wish I could use the lenses I already
 own, but this experiment has taught me the one downside of DA lenses:
 not having an aperture ring makes extension ring/bellows shooting very
 difficult.

 John

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Re: PESO - Advent window

2012-12-12 Thread Bruce Walker
Simply gorgeous, George. Colour and detail is wonderful.

On Blurb printing: I've only done a couple of books. Mark would have
more to say, I'm sure. But I can say this: watch out for out-of-gamut
and overly saturated colours. That caution may even be applicable to
this very image.

In a 120 page book of flower shots I did, only one image suffered
really badly; in a few others minor clipping was detectable. In the
bad one it looked like the printer gave up and splatted ink in a big
blob where the flower should be.

Your screen can display a colour and tone range that the printer
cannot represent. You need to be sure of your black and white points
(Lightroom takes care of this, I'm told). You also need to do
soft-proofing on-screen (hopefully with a calibrated monitor). Finally
you should be prepared to buy at least one test book to examine.

But overall, Blurb's print quality is better than I expected.


On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 12:38 PM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tried to send this yesterday and got a bounce.  Now that we're back, here it 
 is.

 This is another of the twelve major windows from the current church project.

 http://georges.posterous.com/advent-window-st-bridgets-church

 I thought I'd post this photo since we're currently in the Advent season.

 From the standpoint of technical curiosity, my suggestion is to click
 on the photo and look at the larger version.  There are a lot of
 subtle variations in the colors of the glass.  I also just recently
 noticed a some small reflections of color in the major horizontal
 window frame.

 I won't be able to get this submitted in book-form and see the first
 test copy until January.  I'm not sure how much of the detail will
 show up on the printed page.  It does show well on glossy paper when
 printed with an inkjet printer, but I'm not expecting that level of
 detail in a book.

 Anyone that has used blurb have any comments?

 gs

 George Sinos
 
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Re: Rokinon 85/1.4 on sale at BH

2012-12-12 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 Based on theoretical assumptions alone, I would imagine it's a lot
 easier to focus this lens on the K-01's live view, while at the same
 time the lack of an EVF makes holding the camera steady harder, thus
 making correct focus distance harder too. Do both of these cancel out,
 thus making this lens as hard to focus correctly as on a mirrorfull
 Pentax?

 A tripod solves both problems.

But creates several new ones.


Have to face it: most people shoot handheld most of the time. I own a
great tripod and a great monopod. They are both in as-new condition.
:-) Actually the monopod sees more use as a handheld lightbox mount.

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Re: PESO: Woodies

2012-12-12 Thread Jack Davis
Appreciated comments, Paul. At times I favor that one as well.

J
- Original Message -
From: Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: Woodies

Beautiful - both of 'em.  If I had to pick one, it would be 663

On 12/12/2012 10:38 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

 Been hoping for a chance at a Wood duck shot for some time.

 TA-DA!

 Jack

 Comments welcome!

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=663

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=664


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Re: PESO 2012 - 138 - GDG

2012-12-12 Thread Darren Addy
That is a very pleasing image, Godfrey!  Love the composition and
tones. I'm a sucker for monochrome and square format. Thanks for
sharing.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote:
 (Repost to clean up bad subject line.)

 The old Balda Baldix was cleaned and serviced; I'd picked it up a few weeks 
 back. Finally loaded a roll of film and took it out on Saturday morning ...

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8266575646/lightbox

 Thanks for looking! Comments always appreciated.

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Re: Long Exposure Rule of Thumb

2012-12-12 Thread David Mann
On Dec 10, 2012, at 8:38 PM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:

 Blast! for than read then

With my accent, I already do.

Cheers,
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Re: PESO - I picked Abraham Lincoln's nose

2012-12-12 Thread John Celio
Ack! Sorry about the incorrect link. Here's the penny photo:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/uwNAmVlyxQAN1jadgOm1qNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
or: http://goo.gl/2IOiC

 I'm sorry my Cosina is not living up to your expectations...but seeing
 your rig I'm wondering about how insanely high your expectations might
 be  :-D

Oh gosh, no no, I didn't mean to gripe about the lens or you or
anything! I bought the lens because it was cheap, which was just what
I wanted to be able to test out this rig. I knew it wouldn't be
optimal for this kind of photography.

 You can calculate the magnification power of your set up with a ruler.
 Take a photo of it as close as you can, parallel to the ruler, and the
 ruler running from side to side of the frame. Look at the image and
 count how much of the ruler you've photographed. If you're using
 millimeters, let's say your picture shows 12mm of the ruler. An APS-C
 sensor is 24mm wide, so your magnification ratio is 12/24 = 0.5, so
 you can say your macro capability is 1:0.5 (or 2:1 if you prefer). If
 the image you'd taken was 24mm across, then your macro ratio would be
 1:1, or life size, which is what macro lenses (such as your 100mm
 f/2.8) typically reach.

Awesome! Thanks for that. Now I will just have to see about finding a
ruler with small enough increments. ;)

John

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Horizonless

2012-12-12 Thread Derby Chang


I love the Mike's top curated photo

http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2012/12/horizonless-part-ii.html 



Well done, Juan. It is one of my recent faves on Water Molotov

http://photoblog.jbuhler.com/?p=3542

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OT: Anyone know how to extract records from an old btrieve database?

2012-12-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Really. I have some old data saved in an old app that won't run in any
OS currently available. It used a btrieve database. My only option at
the moment is to find an old computer running Windows XP and install
the app there (and even then I'm not sure I could extract the data in
a form that would be useful).
 
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The All Singing, All Dancing PDML FAQ

2012-12-12 Thread Brian Walters

G'day all

The recent threads about donating a few rupees, shekels etc to keep  
PDML afloat and Stan's post Reflections on contributions from (and  
to) the PDML, reminded me that I hadn't posted the FAQ link recently.


So for the benefit of those new here, or those returning after an  
hiatus, here it is:


http://pug.komkon.org/general/mini-faq.html

There's a note on how to donate at the bottom of the page.


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Re: and we're up

2012-12-12 Thread John Sessoms

From: Rick Womer

1 Rupee = $ 0.02 US.

Maybe you should be greedier, Doug.

Glad to have the list back!

Rick


100,000 rupee sounds like more money than $20.00

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Re: PESO: Woodies

2012-12-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
I agree on 663. Excellent shots. Gorgeous color. 
Paul


On Dec 12, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Appreciated comments, Paul. At times I favor that one as well.
 
 J
 - Original Message -
 From: Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Cc: 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:29 AM
 Subject: Re: PESO: Woodies
 
 Beautiful - both of 'em.  If I had to pick one, it would be 663
 
 On 12/12/2012 10:38 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
 
 Been hoping for a chance at a Wood duck shot for some time.
 
 TA-DA!
 
 Jack
 
 Comments welcome!
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=663
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=664
 
 
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Re: PESO: Woodies

2012-12-12 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Paul. That settles it, 663 it is.
Actually, at this point I've processed five with possibly a few more to come.
Don't plan on posting any more, however. I've already gotten my fix. ;-)
 
Jack 
 
 

From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: PESO: Woodies

I agree on 663. Excellent shots. Gorgeous color. 
Paul


On Dec 12, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Appreciated comments, Paul. At times I favor that one as well.
 
 J
 - Original Message -
 From: Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Cc: 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:29 AM
 Subject: Re: PESO: Woodies
 
 Beautiful - both of 'em.  If I had to pick one, it would be 663
 
 On 12/12/2012 10:38 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
 
 Been hoping for a chance at a Wood duck shot for some time.
 
 TA-DA!
 
 Jack
 
 Comments welcome!
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=663
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=664
 
 
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RE: Anyone know how to extract records from an old btrieve database?

2012-12-12 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts
 
 Really. I have some old data saved in an old app that won't run in any
 OS currently available. It used a btrieve database. My only option at
 the moment is to find an old computer running Windows XP and install
 the app there (and even then I'm not sure I could extract the data in a
 form that would be useful).

I did some fairly interesting stuff with Btrieve and TopSpeed Modula-2 in
the early 90s when I worked for A Very Big Retailer. It was all direct to
the database stuff, but later versions had ODBC drivers, so you could try
looking for one of those.

B


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RE: and we're up

2012-12-12 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms
 
 From: Rick Womer
  1 Rupee = $ 0.02 US.
 
  Maybe you should be greedier, Doug.
 
  Glad to have the list back!
 
  Rick
 
 100,000 rupee sounds like more money than $20.00
 

That's a lakh!

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Re: Rokinon 85/1.4 on sale at BH

2012-12-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 Based on theoretical assumptions alone, I would imagine it's a lot
 easier to focus this lens on the K-01's live view, while at the same
 time the lack of an EVF makes holding the camera steady harder, thus
 making correct focus distance harder too. Do both of these cancel out,
 thus making this lens as hard to focus correctly as on a mirrorfull
 Pentax?

 A tripod solves both problems.

 But creates several new ones.

 Have to face it: most people shoot handheld most of the time. I own a
 great tripod and a great monopod. They are both in as-new condition.
 :-) Actually the monopod sees more use as a handheld lightbox mount.

Certainly. But if you're going to complain about how difficult it is
to focus and hold the camera still, there are solutions.

Me? I put my Nikkor-H 85mm f/1.8 on my Olympus E-1 body. Gives me a
superb performing, effective 170mm f/2.8 FoV/DoF with the light
gathering power of an f/1.8 lens in a smallish, hand-holdable package.
That FoV/DoF is the major reason I keep the E-1 and Nikkor 85mm
around. And when I put it on a tripod ... stunning sharpness and
quality unheard of with any hand-held rig with that FoV. :-)

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Re: Rokinon 85/1.4 on sale at BH

2012-12-12 Thread Don Guthrie
Short answer - yes. I have not tried this lens on k-1 with tripod yet 
but it is small enough to hand-hold and focus through live view although 
I need to get used to peaking  I forgot to magnify the LV so more to 
be done.
When I have manual focus tele (like rokinon or mirror lens) on K-5 I 
tend to rock forward  back making focus hard to maintain at these 
apertures. With k-1 it seem easier to maintain the plane. I have a 
Vivitar 100-400 zoom I want to try out on K-01 with  without tripod.






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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:50:21 -0500
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Subject: Re: Rokinon 85/1.4 on sale at BH
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

Based on theoretical assumptions alone, I would imagine it's a lot
easier to focus this lens on the K-01's live view, while at the same
time the lack of an EVF makes holding the camera steady harder, thus
making correct focus distance harder too. Do both of these cancel out,
thus making this lens as hard to focus correctly as on a mirrorfull
Pentax?

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Re: Rokinon 85/1.4 on sale at BH

2012-12-12 Thread Don Guthrie
But Godfrey it was raining  I would have to have gotten out of the car. 
Actually this was a test to see how well it worked handheld. I like 
shooting from a tripod it is a whole different way to take pictures.


Did anyone look at the photo to see whether worked?

http://donspix.posterous.com/#



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Message: 7 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:35:02 -0800 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
gdigio...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Rokinon 85/1.4 on sale at BH Message-ID:
CAC+wR3u24bCwZUxV=zEY=3eerkptmr+2ou+pbe6db+1xzju...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at
9:50 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:

Based on theoretical assumptions alone, I would imagine it's a lot
easier to focus this lens on the K-01's live view, while at the same
time the lack of an EVF makes holding the camera steady harder, thus
making correct focus distance harder too. Do both of these cancel out,
thus making this lens as hard to focus correctly as on a mirrorfull
Pentax?

A tripod solves both problems.

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Re: Rokinon 85/1.4 on sale at BH

2012-12-12 Thread Darren Addy
Speaking to the photograph, I liked it. DOF reminded me of some shots
I took with the Pentax SMC K 50mm f1.2 wide open (back before I sold
that lens).

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PESO - Uncle Dropsy

2012-12-12 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Another of Toronto's more charismatic messengers, this is David Uncle Dropsy, 
messenger by day, hip hop artist by night:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/12/uncle-dropsy.html?m=1 

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

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Re: What's wrong with the K-01

2012-12-12 Thread William Robb

On 10/12/2012 3:38 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

But he was mostly designing the outsides. I'm sure he had very little
to do with the internals. Lots of people design cars who couldn't even
tune an engine.

I think it's more critical that he was allowed to design a camera but
he probably hasn't used one professionally, else he'd have understood
the importance of a viewfinder of some sort (optical or electronic).



I read something just after the K-01 had been released, where Newson was 
saying he had never used an SLR camera before designing the thing. I've 
handled one briefly, and it shows that he has never handled a, SLR 
camera before...

Even his chairs are ugly and pretentious.

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Re: PDML Digest, Vol 80, Issue 88

2012-12-12 Thread Don Guthrie
I consider myself fairly well read on photography new  old but w/o 
Google I have never heard of the Balda Baldix. I liked the look of the 
photo and I assume you got the results you sought.


If you will indulge my curious nature, what specifically did this camera 
bring to this scene.



pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 9
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:38:14 -0800
From: Godfrey DiGiorgiramar...@mac.com
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Subject: PESO 2012 - 138 - GDG
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(Repost to clean up bad subject line.)

The old Balda Baldix was cleaned and serviced; I'd picked it up a few weeks 
back. Finally loaded a roll of film and took it out on Saturday morning ...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8266575646/lightbox

Thanks for looking! Comments always appreciated.

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Re: Rokinon 85/1.4 on sale at BH

2012-12-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 But Godfrey it was raining  I would have to have gotten out of the car.
 Actually this was a test to see how well it worked handheld. I like shooting
 from a tripod it is a whole different way to take pictures.

:-)

 Did anyone look at the photo to see whether worked?

 http://donspix.posterous.com/#

Yes indeed, a very nice photo.

Actually, I took the opportunity to look through your posterous blog
which I hadn't done for a while. A lot of lovely photos in there.
Bravo!

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Re: Lanyon a very small town in Iowa

2012-12-12 Thread Don Guthrie
Thanks Jack, every weekend I go out in search of subjects but the 
mid-west landscape gets a little bleak this time of year; still there is 
no shortage of grain elevators.


Geso at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157632119002800/


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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 09:20:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Jack Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com
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Subject: Re: Lanyon a very small town in Iowa
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Like all these, Don, but that grain elevator is a very well composed?strong 
image.

Jack

 In a message dated 12/10/2012 10:16:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
 shark50...@gmail.com? writes:
 These photos represent a trip down Mainstreet in? Lanyon a very small
 town without zoning.

 Comments always read ? appreciated.

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Re: OT: Anyone know how to extract records from an old btrieve database?

2012-12-12 Thread Bruce Walker
Can't help with Btrieve specifics, but this sort of thing is why I
always keep an instance of WinXP (and also Win98SE, a Linux or two,
etc.) in VMware, ready to fire up. Install cranky old app; do crufty
thing; restore VM back to checkpoint to get rid of it.


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postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Really. I have some old data saved in an old app that won't run in any
 OS currently available. It used a btrieve database. My only option at
 the moment is to find an old computer running Windows XP and install
 the app there (and even then I'm not sure I could extract the data in
 a form that would be useful).

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re: PESO 2012 - 138 - GDG

2012-12-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 The old Balda Baldix was cleaned and serviced; I'd picked it up a few
 weeks back. Finally loaded a roll of film and took it out on Saturday
 morning ...

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8266575646/lightbox

 I consider myself fairly well read on photography new  old but w/o Google I
 have never heard of the Balda Baldix. I liked the look of the photo and I
 assume you got the results you sought.

 If you will indulge my curious nature, what specifically did this camera
 bring to this scene.

Thanks for commenting, Don!

Balda made quite a lot of nice, compact cameras once upon a time, but
that time was now quite long ago. I first heard of their cameras about
a decade and a half ago from a good friend who enjoyed them.

Well, first off the very compact nature of the camera when folded
makes it a pleasure to slip in my jacket pocket or a small bag when I
go for a walk. Combine that with a natural, wide-normal field of view
and the kind of focus zone control you can only get with a big
negative format (6x6cm in this case), and the softly sharp qualities
of the Baltar three-element lens.

It's simply a pleasantly unsophisticated camera to shoot with at a
leisurely pace, and I like the rendering that this lens and 6x6 film
produces. It's never going to compete on the nanoparticle resolution
scale of modern cameras and lenses ... ;-) ... but I'm moving away
from that aesthetic vogue in recent times.

In this exposure, I was shooting in the bright, heavily overcast
morning light, which spread soft flare across the frame. I set the
focus and aperture to slightly blur infinity by 'shorting' the
hyperfocal a little bit, looking for the geometry and flare to meld
together into a cool, winter morning feel with that sinuous path
drawing you towards the light.

I've got a few more shots from this roll (about 7 out of 12 exposures
seem worth a second glance, maybe one or two more will make the cut
for posting) ... I like this pace in photography. 12 exposures a week,
whether I need them or not. ;-)

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Re: OT: Anyone know how to extract records from an old btrieve database?

2012-12-12 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2012-12-12 18:05, Bruce Walker wrote:

Can't help with Btrieve specifics, but this sort of thing is why I
always keep an instance of WinXP (and also Win98SE, a Linux or two,
etc.) in VMware, ready to fire up. Install cranky old app; do crufty
thing; restore VM back to checkpoint to get rid of it.


And if that's not archaic enough, you could try building a VM with 
FreeDOS in it and see if you can scare up the old Btrieve command line 
tools some dark corner of the Internet.


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Re: Rokinon 85/1.4 on sale at BH

2012-12-12 Thread steve harley

on 2012-12-12 15:34 Don Guthrie wrote

Did anyone look at the photo to see whether worked?


i enjoyed the composition, but was put off by the odd glow around the 
out-of-focus twig — a failing of the lens, not the photographer



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Re: PDML Digest, Vol 80, Issue 88

2012-12-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 The old Balda Baldix was cleaned and serviced; I'd picked it up a few
 weeks back. Finally loaded a roll of film and took it out on Saturday
 morning ...

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8266575646/lightbox

 I consider myself fairly well read on photography new  old but w/o Google I
 have never heard of the Balda Baldix. I liked the look of the photo and I
 assume you got the results you sought.

 If you will indulge my curious nature, what specifically did this camera
 bring to this scene.

Thanks for commenting, Don!

Balda made quite a lot of nice, compact cameras once upon a time, but
that time was now quite long ago. I first heard of their cameras about
a decade and a half ago from a good friend who enjoyed them.

Well, first off the very compact nature of the camera when folded
makes it a pleasure to slip in my jacket pocket or a small bag when I
go for a walk. Combine that with a natural, wide-normal field of view
and the kind of focus zone control you can only get with a big
negative format (6x6cm in this case), and the softly sharp qualities
of the Baltar three-element lens.

It's simply a pleasantly unsophisticated camera to shoot with at a
leisurely pace, and I like the rendering that this lens and 6x6 film
produces. It's never going to compete on the nanoparticle resolution
scale of modern cameras and lenses ... ;-) ... but I'm moving away
from that aesthetic vogue in recent times.

In this exposure, I was shooting in the bright, heavily overcast
morning light, which spread soft flare across the frame. I set the
focus and aperture to slightly blur infinity by 'shorting' the
hyperfocal a little bit, looking for the geometry and flare to meld
together into a cool, winter morning feel with that sinuous path
drawing you towards the light.

I've got a few more shots from this roll (about 7 out of 12 exposures
seem worth a second glance, maybe one or two more will make the cut
for posting) ... I like this pace in photography. 12 exposures a week,
whether I need them or not. ;-)

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Re: PESO - Uncle Dropsy

2012-12-12 Thread Eactivist
Nice character in face and angle, but  cropped  a little too close for me.

HTH, Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Another of Toronto's more charismatic  messengers, this is David Uncle 
Dropsy, messenger by day, hip hop artist by  night:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/12/uncle-dropsy.html?m=1  

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

Cheers,
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Re: and we're up

2012-12-12 Thread David J Brooks
Yjanks Doug. it takes a few days to transfer  to my paypal
account, help will be on the way.

Dave

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 Thanks for all the notes and calls, folks. We should be good to go now.

 Please don't forget to toss a few rupees into the pot when you get a chance.

 carry on, then.

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Re: PESO: Woodies

2012-12-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I'd rather not chose --
but I think I lean toward 664
and I want' tech details please!

great field guide shots,both of them. love them woodies

ann

On 12/12/2012 13:29, Paul Sorenson wrote:

Beautiful - both of 'em.  If I had to pick one, it would be 663

On 12/12/2012 10:38 AM, Jack Davis wrote:


Been hoping for a chance at a Wood duck shot for some time.

TA-DA!

Jack

Comments welcome!

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PESO - Flowering corn plant

2012-12-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele

There is a story with it, told in the caption

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Botanical-Gardens/7966405_SrB5XV/1/2269117846_PqBcg7S/Large

the next photo in the gallery is a shot of the whole plant - just for
perspective - not happy with that shot.

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Re: and we're up

2012-12-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele

sorry, no rupees - small bit of USA funds sent in paypal - good thing
this happened _after_ my birthday :-)

ann

On 12/12/2012 11:10, Doug Brewer wrote:

Thanks for all the notes and calls, folks. We should be good to go now.

Please don't forget to toss a few rupees into the pot when you get a
chance.

carry on, then.



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Re: Raw vs Jpeg on K-5

2012-12-12 Thread Rob Studdert
On 13 December 2012 03:40, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 I enjoyed seeing how this picture taken in RAW could be saved.

 https://plus.google.com/u/0/115638976374047590388/posts/bTzntZr9Xky

I generally find the K5 metering a bit hot so I have -0.3 eve comp
dialed in almost always which is of course easily recoverable but when
shooting under problematic light I often have -1ev comp dialed in and
I have generally been very pleased with the results when clawing back
shadow detail too.

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OT - Dr. Alex Moulton, inventor of small-wheeled bicycle dies

2012-12-12 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I had no idea he also worked on the suspension of the original Mini.

His bikes were very cool:

 http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-20691388

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Re: PESO - Flowering corn plant

2012-12-12 Thread Bruce Walker
I really like that shot, Ann. In particular, I like your diagonal
composition and the simple green/white palette. Great light too.

Thats so cool that it chose to flower on your birthday. The
houseplants' gift to you. :-)


On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 There is a story with it, told in the caption

 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Botanical-Gardens/7966405_SrB5XV/1/2269117846_PqBcg7S/Large

 the next photo in the gallery is a shot of the whole plant - just for
 perspective - not happy with that shot.

 ann

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Re: PESO - Uncle Dropsy

2012-12-12 Thread Bruce Walker
I agree with Marnie. He needs a bit of breathing space. Like the
expression and look of it otherwise, Frank.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 6:41 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Nice character in face and angle, but  cropped  a little too close for me.

 HTH, Marnie aka Doe  :-)

 In a message dated 12/12/2012 2:38:41 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
 knarftheria...@gmail.com writes:
 Another of Toronto's more charismatic  messengers, this is David Uncle
 Dropsy, messenger by day, hip hop artist by  night:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/12/uncle-dropsy.html?m=1

 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

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RE: PESO 2012 - 138 - GDG

2012-12-12 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Great mood!

cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com
Sent: December 12, 2012 12/12/12
To: PDML PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO 2012 - 138 - GDG

(Repost to clean up bad subject line.)

The old Balda Baldix was cleaned and serviced; I'd picked it up a few weeks 
back. Finally loaded a roll of film and took it out on Saturday morning ...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8266575646/lightbox

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RE: PESO - Wheeeee!

2012-12-12 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Don't see that as street photography although I do note the quotation marks 
around the term.

Most importantly the photo is wonderful! The moment is opportune in terms of 
the expressions on the faces, and I really like the way the ride is framed by 
the green structure (guessing it's another ride) in the background.

Definitely like!

cheers,
frank, still decompressing from forced FB exile during list outtage  ;-)

--- Original Message ---

From: eactiv...@aol.com
Sent: December 12, 2012 12/12/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Whe!

They are dropping... I was in a raised area that  put me level with them a 
little above mid-way.

Pretty bright,  high-contrast day, but I've lightened shadows about as much 
as I am comfortable  with.

One of my rare attempts at street photography, taken at San Cruz  
Broadwalk, California, this past  year.

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/whe.html

Comments  welcome.

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RE: PESO - Advent window

2012-12-12 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
That is beautiful! You've captured and rendered it beautifully as well.

Cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com
Sent: December 12, 2012 12/12/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Advent window

Tried to send this yesterday and got a bounce.  Now that we're back, here it is.

This is another of the twelve major windows from the current church project.

http://georges.posterous.com/advent-window-st-bridgets-church

I thought I'd post this photo since we're currently in the Advent season.

From the standpoint of technical curiosity, my suggestion is to click
on the photo and look at the larger version.  There are a lot of
subtle variations in the colors of the glass.  I also just recently
noticed a some small reflections of color in the major horizontal
window frame.

I won't be able to get this submitted in book-form and see the first
test copy until January.  I'm not sure how much of the detail will
show up on the printed page.  It does show well on glossy paper when
printed with an inkjet printer, but I'm not expecting that level of
detail in a book.

Anyone that has used blurb have any comments?

gs

George Sinos

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RE: PESO: Woodies

2012-12-12 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Terrific shots, Jack!

Vivid colors, tack-sharp, nice poses. Just wonderful.

Haven't read the rest of the thread, so if you've already answered, you needn't 
answer me, but what lens? Don't tell me it's the 55-300!

cheers,
frank

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From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
Sent: December 12, 2012 12/12/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: Woodies

 
Been hoping for a chance at a Wood duck shot for some time.
 
TA-DA!
 
Jack
 
Comments welcome!
 
http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=663
 
http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=664

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RE: PESO - I picked Abraham Lincoln's nose

2012-12-12 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Looks reasonably sharp to me, but then again:

a) I have ridiculously low standards wrt sharpness, and, 

b) I'm looking at it on my phone.

Cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com
Sent: December 12, 2012 12/12/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - I picked Abraham Lincoln's nose

I recently bought an inexpensive Cosina 28mm lens from Miserere with
the intention of reverse-mounting it on my pile o' extension tubes 
stuff (illustrated with a different lens here: http://goo.gl/WcvoZ) to
see what could be done with such immense magnification powers. For my
first subject, I picked a penny.

As luck would have it, Abe's nose was the first thing I saw in my
viewfinder: http://goo.gl/Xi8vs

That's some serious magnification there. I have no clue how to
calculate what the macro ratio is, but there's not much point to it at
the moment. I appear to have gone beyond the resolving power of the
lens. All the photos I took are very soft, regardless of the aperture
I used. This one looks a teeny bit sharp on the nose, but I think
that's an illusion.

(Reference for those who don't know what a US penny looks like:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_penny. Note that the article also
mentions the size of the coin if you want to try to figure out the
scale here.)

I'm going to keep playing with this setup, but in the meantime I'll
save up for a sharper lens. I wish I could use the lenses I already
own, but this experiment has taught me the one downside of DA lenses:
not having an aperture ring makes extension ring/bellows shooting very
difficult.

John

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Re: Lanyon a very small town in Iowa

2012-12-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Don - I like the church the best but only because of my aversion to 
high-def.  I'd like to see the car shots and the grain elevators without 
the HDF processing.  IF you used it on the church as well then

I'd say that you did just the right amount... the others come off as
a bit cartoony for my taste, but it sure seems like a lot of folks are
loving it so if you are looking to selling these or having them in a 
show it might be the right decision.


ann


On 12/12/2012 17:45, Don Guthrie wrote:

Thanks Jack, every weekend I go out in search of subjects but the
mid-west landscape gets a little bleak this time of year; still there is
no shortage of grain elevators.

Geso at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157632119002800/


pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 10
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 09:20:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Jack Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Lanyon a very small town in Iowa
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Like all these, Don, but that grain elevator is a very well
composed?strong image.

Jack

  In a message dated 12/10/2012 10:16:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
  shark50...@gmail.com? writes:
  These photos represent a trip down Mainstreet in? Lanyon a very small
  town without zoning.
 
  Comments always read ? appreciated.
 
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157632119002800/





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Re: PESO: Woodies

2012-12-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Just saw he wood duck on the PPG, and voted for it (2 of them actually).
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On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thanks, Paul. That settles it, 663 it is.
 Actually, at this point I've processed five with possibly a few more to come.
 Don't plan on posting any more, however. I've already gotten my fix. ;-)

 Jack



 From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: PESO: Woodies

 I agree on 663. Excellent shots. Gorgeous color.
 Paul


 On Dec 12, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Appreciated comments, Paul. At times I favor that one as well.

 J
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 Cc:
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:29 AM
 Subject: Re: PESO: Woodies

 Beautiful - both of 'em.  If I had to pick one, it would be 663

 On 12/12/2012 10:38 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

 Been hoping for a chance at a Wood duck shot for some time.

 TA-DA!

 Jack

 Comments welcome!

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=663

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Re: PESO - Advent window

2012-12-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very nice, George!
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On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 12:38 PM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tried to send this yesterday and got a bounce.  Now that we're back, here it 
 is.

 This is another of the twelve major windows from the current church project.

 http://georges.posterous.com/advent-window-st-bridgets-church

 I thought I'd post this photo since we're currently in the Advent season.

 From the standpoint of technical curiosity, my suggestion is to click
 on the photo and look at the larger version.  There are a lot of
 subtle variations in the colors of the glass.  I also just recently
 noticed a some small reflections of color in the major horizontal
 window frame.

 I won't be able to get this submitted in book-form and see the first
 test copy until January.  I'm not sure how much of the detail will
 show up on the printed page.  It does show well on glossy paper when
 printed with an inkjet printer, but I'm not expecting that level of
 detail in a book.

 Anyone that has used blurb have any comments?

 gs

 George Sinos
 
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Re: PESO - Uncle Dropsy

2012-12-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I like the way it is cropped.  Strong portrayal, Frank.
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On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 5:38 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Another of Toronto's more charismatic messengers, this is David Uncle 
 Dropsy, messenger by day, hip hop artist by night:

  http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/12/uncle-dropsy.html?m=1

 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

 Cheers,
 frank

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Re: PESO - Flowering corn plant

2012-12-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Great composition, Ann.
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On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 There is a story with it, told in the caption

 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Botanical-Gardens/7966405_SrB5XV/1/2269117846_PqBcg7S/Large

 the next photo in the gallery is a shot of the whole plant - just for
 perspective - not happy with that shot.

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Pentax Camera Utility V4.40 update is available

2012-12-12 Thread P. J. Alling

For those who care.

It says it just adds a few lenses and info for the K-5II[s] but who 
knows.  Anyway the link is here


http://www.pentax.jp/english/support/digital/dc_utility4_win.html

Now I've managed to screw up my knee, so I'm in considerable pain so I'm 
off to an appointment with Tylenol and bed.


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Re: PESO: Woodies

2012-12-12 Thread P. J. Alling

Nicely captured but they don't actually seem to be made of wood.

On 12/12/2012 11:38 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
  
Been hoping for a chance at a Wood duck shot for some time.
  
TA-DA!
  
Jack
  
Comments welcome!
  
http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=663
  
http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=664





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Re: RAW vs JPEG on the K-5

2012-12-12 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bipin,
I didn't do any of those things.
I was concentrating on focus and had the camera on full auto (Green mode)
With this kind of strong backlighting, I just re-shoot adjusting exposure.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote:
 Bob, the 3rd photo after cropping and color correction of the 2nd
 photo is amazing. But I am surprised the 1st photo out of the camera
 has come out  badly under exposed.
 The JPEGs out of my K20D in the Bright setting mode (Fn Menu) turn
 out perfect each time. So much so that it is as good as RAW processed
 in either Photoshop or PDCU. In most instances better.
 Instead of exposing for the table lamp I would have averaged out
 Spot readings off the face and the table lamp. And corrected for the
 dark and bright areas in Photoshop, if it was still required. Better
 still I would have used a weak flash to brighten up the face a bit.
 Regards. Bipin.
 camp: Thornhill, Ontario, Canada.

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Re: PESO: Woodies

2012-12-12 Thread Rick Womer
Jack,

I find the first image more attractive, because the duck is moving toward the 
camera and there is less scum on the water.

Both are excellent, though; nice composition and great color.

I'd take duck shots again if they turned out like these!

Cheers,

Rick


 
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Subject: Re: PESO: Woodies

Nicely captured but they don't actually seem to be made of wood.

On 12/12/2012 11:38 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
   Been hoping for a chance at a Wood duck shot for some time.
   TA-DA!
   Jack
   Comments welcome!
   http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=663
   http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=664
 


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PESO - St. Nicholas

2012-12-12 Thread Rick Womer
There are two St. Nicholas churches in Prague.  This is in the larger one, west 
of the river:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16664154size=lg

Comments appreciated!

Cheers,

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Re: PESO - Flowering corn plant

2012-12-12 Thread Rick Womer
Nice story, and the first photo is a beauty.

Cheers, and a belated happy birthday!

Rick


 
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Subject: PESO - Flowering corn plant

There is a story with it, told in the caption

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Botanical-Gardens/7966405_SrB5XV/1/2269117846_PqBcg7S/Large

the next photo in the gallery is a shot of the whole plant - just for
perspective - not happy with that shot.

ann

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Re: What's wrong with the K-01

2012-12-12 Thread John Sessoms

From: William Robb

On 10/12/2012 3:38 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

But he was mostly designing the outsides. I'm sure he had very little
to do with the internals. Lots of people design cars who couldn't even
tune an engine.

I think it's more critical that he was allowed to design a camera but
he probably hasn't used one professionally, else he'd have understood
the importance of a viewfinder of some sort (optical or electronic).



I read something just after the K-01 had been released, where Newson was
saying he had never used an SLR camera before designing the thing. I've
handled one briefly, and it shows that he has never handled a, SLR
camera before...
Even his chairs are ugly and pretentious.


None of his chairs looked like they'd be comfortable to sit in.

I did a Google Image search for Marc Newson, and the K-01 looks like 
it's probably the most useable  attractive item he's designed. I don't 
really care what the K-01 looks like, but even with bifocals, my arms 
just aren't long enough or steady enough to use the little TV screen on 
the back for focusing.


He's done some transportation stuff that LOOKED Ok - rockets  jet 
planes, although the little car is kind of ugly. I think the little car 
might be drivable, but the rockets ain't never going to fly.


I wasn't impressed with his shoes or clothes designs either, but I'm not 
a chav, so I may be missing something.


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