GESO: Portsmouth
We were able to visit Portsmouth on our UK trip. Without trying to bore anyone, here are some shots. HMS Warrior is an Ironclad warship of the 19th century with supplementary steam power. She never fired a shot in anger but, such was her power, she was the perfect deterrent for over 30 years. You all know HMS Victory which remains the Flagship of the Royal Navy with Captain & Crew. The restoration of her rigging will only be completed in 2025. Note that Nelson's bunk is between two cannons. In fact the whole crew lived among the cannons. Warrior & Victory both had over 100 guns on several levels & could deliver devastating broadsides. The Mary Rose exhibition, only recently opened, is quite amazing. HMS Queen Elizabeth, the Royal Navy's latest Aircraft Carrier, was in dock. The Emirates Spinnaker Tower is impressive but we didn't get a chance to go up there, nor visit the Submarine base on the other side of the harbour. If you contemplate a visit, you will need a couple of days to do it justice. https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/albums/72157687082870121 All with the K5 & DA 18-55. Alan C --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO don't try this at home, or anyplace else for that matter
Shot about 100 yards South of my house. Someone on a Harley made an imprudent pass, followed shortly by a credible attempt at autodarwination. The only gore in the photos is of the mechanical variety. The rider was being carted off in an ambulance as I drove up. Word was he was about to be medevaced to Valley Med. https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/37654079716/in/album-72157686190945352/ The full set is here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157686190945352 -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs (2) - On May Way to Work
I meant the landing page for that gallery.. The pictures are next to each other but in their correct proportions... when you sent up your gallery for those shots it is a choice in the gallery settings... though perhaps you don't have as many features as I do I'm subscribed with a portfolio plan - $150 a year... anyway they look nice :-) ann On 10/14/2017 10:38 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Thanks, Ann. I don’t know how they wound up on my landing page, nor do I know why the two links lead to the same thing. I also know nothing about the “collage landscape choice.” I really miss the old photo.net; one could just post one’s photos, in the order one wanted, with links that worked, and with no fuss. I’m becoming more of a dyspeptic codger every day… Rick On Oct 14, 2017, at 6:22 PM, ann sanfedelewrote: I like them as a pair, side by side, on your landing page.. The "collage landscape" choice we have at smugmug works especially well for your themed galleries. The close-up of the leaves , I think, is the stronger of the two new ones as a stand alone.. Looking forward to your stroll when the leaves turn more :-) ann On 10/14/2017 5:11 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Early last week: https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/organize/PESOs-2017/On-My-Way-To-Work/Way-to-Work-10-6-17/i-PWSs3MQ and https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/organize/PESOs-2017/On-My-Way-To-Work/Way-to-Work-10-6-17/i-DVHrCMf (K-5, DA 50-200) Comments appreciated! Rick PS: The SmugMug user interface for uploading and organizing photos is a frustrating PITA. I’m going to be looking for a hosting site again when my year’s subscription is up. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs (2) - On May Way to Work
Thanks, Ann. I don’t know how they wound up on my landing page, nor do I know why the two links lead to the same thing. I also know nothing about the “collage landscape choice.” I really miss the old photo.net; one could just post one’s photos, in the order one wanted, with links that worked, and with no fuss. I’m becoming more of a dyspeptic codger every day… Rick > On Oct 14, 2017, at 6:22 PM, ann sanfedelewrote: > > I like them as a pair, side by side, on your landing page.. The "collage > landscape" choice we have at smugmug > works especially well for your themed galleries. The close-up of the leaves > , I think, is the stronger of the two new > ones as a stand alone.. > > Looking forward to your stroll when the leaves turn more :-) > > ann > > On 10/14/2017 5:11 PM, Rick Womer wrote: >> Early last week: >> >> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/organize/PESOs-2017/On-My-Way-To-Work/Way-to-Work-10-6-17/i-PWSs3MQ >> >> and >> >> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/organize/PESOs-2017/On-My-Way-To-Work/Way-to-Work-10-6-17/i-DVHrCMf >> >> (K-5, DA 50-200) >> >> Comments appreciated! >> >> Rick >> >> >> >> PS: The SmugMug user interface for uploading and organizing photos is a >> frustrating PITA. I’m going to be looking for a hosting site again when my >> year’s subscription is up. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs (2) - On May Way to Work
I like them as a pair, side by side, on your landing page.. The "collage landscape" choice we have at smugmug works especially well for your themed galleries. The close-up of the leaves , I think, is the stronger of the two new ones as a stand alone.. Looking forward to your stroll when the leaves turn more :-) ann On 10/14/2017 5:11 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Early last week: https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/organize/PESOs-2017/On-My-Way-To-Work/Way-to-Work-10-6-17/i-PWSs3MQ and https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/organize/PESOs-2017/On-My-Way-To-Work/Way-to-Work-10-6-17/i-DVHrCMf (K-5, DA 50-200) Comments appreciated! Rick PS: The SmugMug user interface for uploading and organizing photos is a frustrating PITA. I’m going to be looking for a hosting site again when my year’s subscription is up. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Terracotta Army
What Rick said -- and I find it very haunting ann On 10/14/2017 4:33 PM, Rick Womer wrote: I like it, Dan. The composition and lighting work well. Rick On Oct 13, 2017, at 4:11 PM, Daniel J. Matyolawrote: From the Terracotta Warriors exhibition at the Franklin Institute Science Museum, Philapelphia: http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/10/12/army K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Terracotta Armor
Another from the Franklin Institute: http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/10/14/armor-1 Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Terracotta Army
Thanks, Rick. I was trying to hide the fact that this was a museum display and make it look more like it probably did when these figures were uncoverd in China. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Rick Womerwrote: > I like it, Dan. The composition and lighting work well. > > Rick > > > On Oct 13, 2017, at 4:11 PM, Daniel J. Matyola > wrote: > > > > From the Terracotta Warriors exhibition at the Franklin Institute Science > > Museum, Philapelphia: > > > > http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/10/12/army > > > > K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom > > Comments are invited. > > > > Dan Matyola > > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs (2) - On May Way to Work
Both links lead to the same page, which has two images of foliage. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Rick Womerwrote: > Early last week: > > https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/organize/PESOs-2017/On-My-Way- > To-Work/Way-to-Work-10-6-17/i-PWSs3MQ > > and > > https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/organize/PESOs-2017/On-My-Way- > To-Work/Way-to-Work-10-6-17/i-DVHrCMf > > (K-5, DA 50-200) > > Comments appreciated! > > Rick > > > > PS: The SmugMug user interface for uploading and organizing photos is a > frustrating PITA. I’m going to be looking for a hosting site again when my > year’s subscription is up. > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESOs (2) - On May Way to Work
Early last week: https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/organize/PESOs-2017/On-My-Way-To-Work/Way-to-Work-10-6-17/i-PWSs3MQ and https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/organize/PESOs-2017/On-My-Way-To-Work/Way-to-Work-10-6-17/i-DVHrCMf (K-5, DA 50-200) Comments appreciated! Rick PS: The SmugMug user interface for uploading and organizing photos is a frustrating PITA. I’m going to be looking for a hosting site again when my year’s subscription is up. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Terracotta Army
I like it, Dan. The composition and lighting work well. Rick > On Oct 13, 2017, at 4:11 PM, Daniel J. Matyolawrote: > > From the Terracotta Warriors exhibition at the Franklin Institute Science > Museum, Philapelphia: > > http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/10/12/army > > K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom > Comments are invited. > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso-Full Flaps
Works for me :-) ann On 10/13/2017 4:47 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Colusa Preserve is covered by the Fall crowd. These are called White Fronts due to the white face of the mature. Off of a tripod with new B 90 degree up/down slotted ball head. Helps in keeping the ball from falling sharply to the side. Shot this AM with DFA 150~450. K3 set to TAV: Shutter, 2000, ISO, 1000 max (auto) AV, f8.0. C? J https://www.photo.net/photo/18429987 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: False news
and I didn't even know it -was- Air Force One - all the stuff on the plane is blurry what bothered me most was the size of the plane and it's proximity to the building and what I already said to mike :-) But if you showed me a photo of Air force one on the ground, without a POTUS emerging from it, all I'd see is "big air plane" ann I On 10/14/2017 8:47 AM, Anthony Farr wrote: Recently, because of US flag respect/disrespect controversies, I read the US governments guidelines about the display and handling of the Stars-and-Stripes, or images of it. One of the requirements was that representations of the flag should be imaged as if the flagstaff was on the left, and another was that the starfield should always be on the side nearest the flagstaff. Therefore the starfield should be on the left of the flag on Air Force One's vertical stabiliser. Therefore the image of Air Force One is flipped. However, the image of the Mandalay Bay Hotel is not flipped, because the broken windows are in their correct positions. Therefore, the picture is a composite of a true picture of the hotel and a reversed picture of Air Force One. I'm Australian and saw it in about ten seconds. How many Americans would it have taken before one spotted it. Mike Wilson is English and smelled a rat, though I'm not sure he knows why his BS detectors trembled. regards, Anthony On 14 October 2017 at 08:31, mike wilsonwrote: So it looks like the picture is possible after all. I was somethat thrown by the caption, which, as in the article Larry found, says something like "AF1 flies past the broken windows" Clearly, it is flying behind the whole hotel. On 13 October 2017 at 22:18 John wrote: I also found this regarding "right turn" departures from McCarran International Airport. https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/effort-to-change-flights-on-brink/ On 10/13/2017 13:59, mike wilson wrote: On 13 October 2017 at 17:31 John wrote: More likely it would be a right turn departing runway 25R. http://www.airnav.com/airport/KLAS Runway 7L/25R (the Airnav sheet has it as 8L/26R) is the longest runway at McCarran. Traffic departing 25R should normally go straight ahead or turn right. It says traffic pattern _left_ which I would expect - away from high population areas. If you do turn right I would expect a very high rate of climb, making the pictures less possible again. Although, as I wrote earlier, traffic rules may not aply to AF1. Some planes are more equal than others, it seems. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airfield_traffic_pattern You could get that angle of view standing near the Las Vegas Village concert venue's Gate #5 on Giles St and have a pretty good chance that Air Force One would be departing in that direction. 36.095449, -115.170635 -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: False news
> On 14 October 2017 at 14:31 Steve Cottrellwrote: > > > On 14/10/17, Anthony Farr, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >Well, I just checked images of Air Force One, and it does indeed display > >the flag stars to the right on the starboard side. It must be an exception > >to the protocol so that the flag "flutters" behind the imaginary flagstaff > >in the correct direction of travel. > >Disregard my previous comment, sigh > > I'm surprised Trump's not repealed the flag fluttering direction. > > Or the wind for that matter. As a representation of a flag fluttering in the wind, it's clearly suffering from false wind and therefore entirely in keeping with Tweety's modus operandi. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: False news
On 14/10/17, Anthony Farr, discombobulated, unleashed: >Well, I just checked images of Air Force One, and it does indeed display >the flag stars to the right on the starboard side. It must be an exception >to the protocol so that the flag "flutters" behind the imaginary flagstaff >in the correct direction of travel. >Disregard my previous comment, sigh I'm surprised Trump's not repealed the flag fluttering direction. Or the wind for that matter. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and || (O) |Live Broadcast News -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: False news
Well, I just checked images of Air Force One, and it does indeed display the flag stars to the right on the starboard side. It must be an exception to the protocol so that the flag "flutters" behind the imaginary flagstaff in the correct direction of travel. Disregard my previous comment, sigh regards, Anthony On 14 October 2017 at 23:47, Anthony Farrwrote: > Recently, because of US flag respect/disrespect controversies, I read the > US governments guidelines about the display and handling of the > Stars-and-Stripes, or images of it. One of the requirements was that > representations of the flag should be imaged as if the flagstaff was on the > left, and another was that the starfield should always be on the side > nearest the flagstaff. Therefore the starfield should be on the left of the > flag on Air Force One's vertical stabiliser. Therefore the image of Air > Force One is flipped. > However, the image of the Mandalay Bay Hotel is not flipped, because the > broken windows are in their correct positions. > Therefore, the picture is a composite of a true picture of the hotel and a > reversed picture of Air Force One. > I'm Australian and saw it in about ten seconds. How many Americans would > it have taken before one spotted it. Mike Wilson is English and smelled a > rat, though I'm not sure he knows why his BS detectors trembled. > > regards, Anthony > > On 14 October 2017 at 08:31, mike wilson wrote: > >> So it looks like the picture is possible after all. I was somethat >> thrown by >> the caption, which, as in the article Larry found, says something like >> "AF1 >> flies past the broken windows" Clearly, it is flying behind the whole >> hotel. >> >> > On 13 October 2017 at 22:18 John wrote: >> > >> > >> > I also found this regarding "right turn" departures from McCarran >> > International Airport. >> > >> > https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/effort-to-change-flights-on-brink/ >> > >> > >> > On 10/13/2017 13:59, mike wilson wrote: >> > >> On 13 October 2017 at 17:31 John wrote: >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> More likely it would be a right turn departing runway 25R. >> > >> >> > >> http://www.airnav.com/airport/KLAS >> > >> >> > >> Runway 7L/25R (the Airnav sheet has it as 8L/26R) is the longest >> runway at >> > >> McCarran. Traffic departing 25R should normally go straight ahead or >> turn >> > >> right. >> > > >> > > It says traffic pattern _left_ which I would expect - away from high >> > > population >> > > areas. If you do turn right I would expect a very high rate of climb, >> > > making >> > > the pictures less possible again. Although, as I wrote earlier, >> traffic >> > > rules >> > > may not aply to AF1. Some planes are more equal than others, it >> seems. >> > > >> > >> >> > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airfield_traffic_pattern >> > >> >> > >> You could get that angle of view standing near the Las Vegas Village >> > >> concert >> > >> venue's Gate #5 on Giles St and have a pretty good chance that Air >> Force >> > >> One >> > >> would be departing in that direction. >> > >> >> > >> 36.095449, -115.170635 >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > -- >> > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. >> > Religion - Answers we must never question. >> > >> > -- >> > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> > PDML@pdml.net >> > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow >> > the directions. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: False news
Recently, because of US flag respect/disrespect controversies, I read the US governments guidelines about the display and handling of the Stars-and-Stripes, or images of it. One of the requirements was that representations of the flag should be imaged as if the flagstaff was on the left, and another was that the starfield should always be on the side nearest the flagstaff. Therefore the starfield should be on the left of the flag on Air Force One's vertical stabiliser. Therefore the image of Air Force One is flipped. However, the image of the Mandalay Bay Hotel is not flipped, because the broken windows are in their correct positions. Therefore, the picture is a composite of a true picture of the hotel and a reversed picture of Air Force One. I'm Australian and saw it in about ten seconds. How many Americans would it have taken before one spotted it. Mike Wilson is English and smelled a rat, though I'm not sure he knows why his BS detectors trembled. regards, Anthony On 14 October 2017 at 08:31, mike wilsonwrote: > So it looks like the picture is possible after all. I was somethat thrown > by > the caption, which, as in the article Larry found, says something like "AF1 > flies past the broken windows" Clearly, it is flying behind the whole > hotel. > > > On 13 October 2017 at 22:18 John wrote: > > > > > > I also found this regarding "right turn" departures from McCarran > > International Airport. > > > > https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/effort-to-change-flights-on-brink/ > > > > > > On 10/13/2017 13:59, mike wilson wrote: > > >> On 13 October 2017 at 17:31 John wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> More likely it would be a right turn departing runway 25R. > > >> > > >> http://www.airnav.com/airport/KLAS > > >> > > >> Runway 7L/25R (the Airnav sheet has it as 8L/26R) is the longest > runway at > > >> McCarran. Traffic departing 25R should normally go straight ahead or > turn > > >> right. > > > > > > It says traffic pattern _left_ which I would expect - away from high > > > population > > > areas. If you do turn right I would expect a very high rate of climb, > > > making > > > the pictures less possible again. Although, as I wrote earlier, > traffic > > > rules > > > may not aply to AF1. Some planes are more equal than others, it seems. > > > > > >> > > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airfield_traffic_pattern > > >> > > >> You could get that angle of view standing near the Las Vegas Village > > >> concert > > >> venue's Gate #5 on Giles St and have a pretty good chance that Air > Force > > >> One > > >> would be departing in that direction. > > >> > > >> 36.095449, -115.170635 > > >> > > >> > > > > -- > > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > > Religion - Answers we must never question. > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow > > the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.