Re: a puzzlement..

2018-06-29 Thread Alan C

Not clickable in Live Mail or TBird

Alan C


On 30-Jun-18 01:31 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

The link in the subject line isn't clickable for me in the Gmail web
interface (Chrome/Windows), nor Outlook for iOS.

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 6:35 PM ann sanfedele  wrote:


Thanks for clarifying:-)
ann

On 6/29/2018 6:28 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

Except that it's *NOT* a problem caused by the user on Ann's end.

On 6/29/2018 16:49, l...@red4est.com wrote:

PEBKAC

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980506

A related step, though not necessarily about your friend, the two
strips are often paired

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19990211




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On June 29, 2018 12:46:36 PM PDT, "Jostein Øksne" 
wrote:

Puzzling answer. Not all together convinced that the person understand
the difference between subject line and main text.

Jodtein

Den 29. juni 2018 01.17.24 CEST, skrev ann sanfedele
:

a friend of mine wanted to show me someone's web page. has a smart
phone
(I_phone) and the email sent from her phone came up with the link --in
the subject line--
nothing in the body  except "sent from my phone"

so instead of clicking it - I had to highlight and copy and paste.

when

I told her that links belonged in the body of the mail she said she

and

all her friends send each other
links in subject lines and copy and paste.   she has a Gmail account -
her seldom used laptop is a mac.

Is this Brave New World?she asked me if what I told her was "a
microsoft thing".

finding this rather odd.

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Re: a puzzlement..

2018-06-29 Thread John Sessoms

On 6/29/2018 21:34, l...@red4est.com wrote:



On June 29, 2018 2:38:01 PM PDT, Darren Addy  wrote:



My next question would be whether there is some way to put code in a
subject line so that a link APPEARED to go one place, but actually
went another. THAT would be especially dangerous, as you might think
you were going somewhere safe and instead be doing the opposite.
Outlook does not show you the actual destination of a link in the
subject line (anywhere that I can see).


Maybe with an http href tag.

 pretend url 


Would that work against someone who insists on only accepting plain text email?

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Re: a puzzlement..

2018-06-29 Thread ann sanfedele

lol I know

On 6/29/2018 7:49 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:

I didn't mean you, I meant your friend.


On June 29, 2018 3:34:43 PM PDT, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Thanks for clarifying:-)
ann

On 6/29/2018 6:28 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

Except that it's *NOT* a problem caused by the user on Ann's end.

On 6/29/2018 16:49, l...@red4est.com wrote:

PEBKAC

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980506

A related step, though not necessarily about your friend, the two
strips are often paired

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19990211




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On June 29, 2018 12:46:36 PM PDT, "Jostein Øksne" 
wrote:

Puzzling answer. Not all together convinced that the person

understand

the difference between subject line and main text.

Jodtein

Den 29. juni 2018 01.17.24 CEST, skrev ann sanfedele
:

a friend of mine wanted to show me someone's web page. has a smart
phone
(I_phone) and the email sent from her phone came up with the link

--in

the subject line--
nothing in the body  except "sent from my phone"

so instead of clicking it - I had to highlight and copy and paste.

when

I told her that links belonged in the body of the mail she said

she

and

all her friends send each other
links in subject lines and copy and paste.   she has a Gmail

account -

her seldom used laptop is a mac.

Is this Brave New World?    she asked me if what I told her was "a
microsoft thing".

finding this rather odd.

ann

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Re: a puzzlement..

2018-06-29 Thread lrc



On June 29, 2018 2:38:01 PM PDT, Darren Addy  wrote:
>I agree with Mark Roberts sentiments.
>
>Interesting question Ann. So I decided to try it from my gmail
>account. I typed http://www.theautodolly.com (one of my employer's web
>sites) into the Gmail subject line and sent it to two recipents:
>Myself via a different Gmail account and my work account which I
>access via Outlook on a Windows machine.
>As I expected, the subject line was NOT clickable in Gmail.
>However, I was surprised to see it as a blue underlined link at the
>top of the opened Outlook mail message. Clicking it did indeed take me
>to a web site.
>I don't believe I've ever seen that before and did not know it was
>possible.
>
>My next question would be whether there is some way to put code in a
>subject line so that a link APPEARED to go one place, but actually
>went another. THAT would be especially dangerous, as you might think
>you were going somewhere safe and instead be doing the opposite.
>Outlook does not show you the actual destination of a link in the
>subject line (anywhere that I can see).

Maybe with an http href tag. 

 pretend url 
>
>Darren Addy
>Kearney, Nebraska
>
>On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 3:42 PM, Mark Roberts
> wrote:
>> Whether or not putting a link in the subject like *works* is neither
>> here nor there. It's not accepted practice to send links that way and
>> I'd say it's a bad idea from a security standpoint for anyone
>> *receiving* such a message to click a link in a subject line. Too
>easy
>> to get in the habit of clicking such links and eventually get sent
>> somewhere bad by any of the all-too-numerous scumbags on the net.
>>
>> Tell your friend to stop it for everyone's sake.
>>
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Re: a puzzlement..

2018-06-29 Thread Mark Roberts
ann sanfedele wrote:

>On 6/29/2018 4:42 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>>>
>> Tell your friend to stop it for everyone's sake.
>
>alas, that is not an option  - I tried that , in person... just a few 
>minutes ago -- she is a neighbor.  That is, I tried to explain why I 
>though it was perhaps not a good idea..

Fortunately, this is a (mostly) benign instance. But people like this,
who won't change their online behavior out of sheer stubbornness or
unwillingness to learn new ways of doing things, are why virus writers
and other malware writers will always have easy targets.
 
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Re: a puzzlement..

2018-06-29 Thread lrc
I didn't mean you, I meant your friend.


On June 29, 2018 3:34:43 PM PDT, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>Thanks for clarifying:-)
>ann
>
>On 6/29/2018 6:28 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
>> Except that it's *NOT* a problem caused by the user on Ann's end.
>>
>> On 6/29/2018 16:49, l...@red4est.com wrote:
>>> PEBKAC
>>>
>>> http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980506
>>>
>>> A related step, though not necessarily about your friend, the two 
>>> strips are often paired
>>>
>>> http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19990211
>>>
>>>
>>>
>https://www-urbandictionary-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?amp_js_v=a2_gsa=1=User%20Error%20%23ID10T=true=mq331AQECAE4AQ%3D%3D#referrer=https://www.google.com_tf=From%20%251%24s=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.urbandictionary.com%2Fdefine.php%3Fterm%3DUser%2520Error%2520%2523ID10T
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On June 29, 2018 12:46:36 PM PDT, "Jostein Øksne" 
>
>>> wrote:
 Puzzling answer. Not all together convinced that the person
>understand
 the difference between subject line and main text.

 Jodtein

 Den 29. juni 2018 01.17.24 CEST, skrev ann sanfedele
 :
> a friend of mine wanted to show me someone's web page. has a smart
> phone
> (I_phone) and the email sent from her phone came up with the link
>--in

> the subject line--
> nothing in the body  except "sent from my phone"
>
> so instead of clicking it - I had to highlight and copy and paste.
 when
>
> I told her that links belonged in the body of the mail she said
>she
 and
>
> all her friends send each other
> links in subject lines and copy and paste.   she has a Gmail
>account -

> her seldom used laptop is a mac.
>
> Is this Brave New World?    she asked me if what I told her was "a
> microsoft thing".
>
> finding this rather odd.
>
> ann

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Re: a puzzlement..

2018-06-29 Thread Matthew Hunt
The link in the subject line isn't clickable for me in the Gmail web
interface (Chrome/Windows), nor Outlook for iOS.

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 6:35 PM ann sanfedele  wrote:

> Thanks for clarifying:-)
> ann
>
> On 6/29/2018 6:28 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
> > Except that it's *NOT* a problem caused by the user on Ann's end.
> >
> > On 6/29/2018 16:49, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> >> PEBKAC
> >>
> >> http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980506
> >>
> >> A related step, though not necessarily about your friend, the two
> >> strips are often paired
> >>
> >> http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19990211
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://www-urbandictionary-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?amp_js_v=a2_gsa=1=User%20Error%20%23ID10T=true=mq331AQECAE4AQ%3D%3D#referrer=https://www.google.com_tf=From%20%251%24s=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.urbandictionary.com%2Fdefine.php%3Fterm%3DUser%2520Error%2520%2523ID10T
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On June 29, 2018 12:46:36 PM PDT, "Jostein Øksne" 
> >> wrote:
> >>> Puzzling answer. Not all together convinced that the person understand
> >>> the difference between subject line and main text.
> >>>
> >>> Jodtein
> >>>
> >>> Den 29. juni 2018 01.17.24 CEST, skrev ann sanfedele
> >>> :
>  a friend of mine wanted to show me someone's web page. has a smart
>  phone
>  (I_phone) and the email sent from her phone came up with the link --in
> >>>
>  the subject line--
>  nothing in the body  except "sent from my phone"
> 
>  so instead of clicking it - I had to highlight and copy and paste.
> >>> when
> 
>  I told her that links belonged in the body of the mail she said she
> >>> and
> 
>  all her friends send each other
>  links in subject lines and copy and paste.   she has a Gmail account -
> >>>
>  her seldom used laptop is a mac.
> 
>  Is this Brave New World?she asked me if what I told her was "a
>  microsoft thing".
> 
>  finding this rather odd.
> 
>  ann
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Re: a puzzlement..

2018-06-29 Thread ann sanfedele

Thanks for clarifying:-)
ann

On 6/29/2018 6:28 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

Except that it's *NOT* a problem caused by the user on Ann's end.

On 6/29/2018 16:49, l...@red4est.com wrote:

PEBKAC

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980506

A related step, though not necessarily about your friend, the two 
strips are often paired


http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19990211


https://www-urbandictionary-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?amp_js_v=a2_gsa=1=User%20Error%20%23ID10T=true=mq331AQECAE4AQ%3D%3D#referrer=https://www.google.com_tf=From%20%251%24s=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.urbandictionary.com%2Fdefine.php%3Fterm%3DUser%2520Error%2520%2523ID10T 





On June 29, 2018 12:46:36 PM PDT, "Jostein Øksne"  
wrote:

Puzzling answer. Not all together convinced that the person understand
the difference between subject line and main text.

Jodtein

Den 29. juni 2018 01.17.24 CEST, skrev ann sanfedele
:

a friend of mine wanted to show me someone's web page. has a smart
phone
(I_phone) and the email sent from her phone came up with the link --in



the subject line--
nothing in the body  except "sent from my phone"

so instead of clicking it - I had to highlight and copy and paste.

when


I told her that links belonged in the body of the mail she said she

and


all her friends send each other
links in subject lines and copy and paste.   she has a Gmail account -



her seldom used laptop is a mac.

Is this Brave New World?    she asked me if what I told her was "a
microsoft thing".

finding this rather odd.

ann


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Re: a puzzlement..

2018-06-29 Thread Paul Sorenson

Could also be PICNIC


On 6/29/2018 3:49 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:

PEBKAC

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980506

A related step, though not necessarily about your friend, the two strips are 
often paired

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19990211


https://www-urbandictionary-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?amp_js_v=a2_gsa=1=User%20Error%20%23ID10T=true=mq331AQECAE4AQ%3D%3D#referrer=https://www.google.com_tf=From%20%251%24s=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.urbandictionary.com%2Fdefine.php%3Fterm%3DUser%2520Error%2520%2523ID10T



On June 29, 2018 12:46:36 PM PDT, "Jostein Øksne"  wrote:

Puzzling answer. Not all together convinced that the person understand
the difference between subject line and main text.

Jodtein

Den 29. juni 2018 01.17.24 CEST, skrev ann sanfedele
:

a friend of mine wanted to show me someone's web page. has a smart
phone
(I_phone) and the email sent from her phone came up with the link --in
the subject line--
nothing in the body  except "sent from my phone"

so instead of clicking it - I had to highlight and copy and paste.

when

I told her that links belonged in the body of the mail she said she

and

all her friends send each other
links in subject lines and copy and paste.   she has a Gmail account -
her seldom used laptop is a mac.

Is this Brave New World?    she asked me if what I told her was "a
microsoft thing".

finding this rather odd.

ann

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Re: a puzzlement..

2018-06-29 Thread John Sessoms

Except that it's *NOT* a problem caused by the user on Ann's end.

On 6/29/2018 16:49, l...@red4est.com wrote:

PEBKAC

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980506

A related step, though not necessarily about your friend, the two strips are 
often paired

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19990211


https://www-urbandictionary-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?amp_js_v=a2_gsa=1=User%20Error%20%23ID10T=true=mq331AQECAE4AQ%3D%3D#referrer=https://www.google.com_tf=From%20%251%24s=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.urbandictionary.com%2Fdefine.php%3Fterm%3DUser%2520Error%2520%2523ID10T



On June 29, 2018 12:46:36 PM PDT, "Jostein Øksne"  wrote:

Puzzling answer. Not all together convinced that the person understand
the difference between subject line and main text.

Jodtein

Den 29. juni 2018 01.17.24 CEST, skrev ann sanfedele
:

a friend of mine wanted to show me someone's web page. has a smart
phone
(I_phone) and the email sent from her phone came up with the link --in



the subject line--
nothing in the body  except "sent from my phone"

so instead of clicking it - I had to highlight and copy and paste.

when


I told her that links belonged in the body of the mail she said she

and


all her friends send each other
links in subject lines and copy and paste.   she has a Gmail account -



her seldom used laptop is a mac.

Is this Brave New World?    she asked me if what I told her was "a
microsoft thing".

finding this rather odd.

ann


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Re: a puzzlement.. http://www.example.com

2018-06-29 Thread John Sessoms

Ok, so it's kind of an Apple thing?

On 6/29/2018 17:47, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

It does work as a hot link on all my systems and browsers. This is a
limitation of the system and app configuration you're using, that's all.

G


On Jun 29, 2018, at 2:43 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

That's interesting, but I couldn't use the link  above without
highlighting, copying and opening my browser to paste it.. My friend claims
it works as a hot link -




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Re: a puzzlement..

2018-06-29 Thread ann sanfedele
The hyperlink friend sent me was not clickable - (and I'm grateful for 
that -)
But after reading your reply and Bob W's  I have to back down on my 
thinking she was doing somethingseldomdone...


However I couldn't open her link in the email she sent me without doing 
copy and past and then opening a browser. Thundebird doesn't check 
spelling in

subject lines either.

If I hadn't been in the room with her when she sent me the link, I 
surely would have deleted it without opening the mail.  likewise, if I 
get email with

NO subject or with "Hi"  instant delete.

ann

On 6/29/2018 5:15 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

It's a short cut, Ann … rather than writing a note that requires a text body, 
you just send the link as the subject line. Clicking it in every system and 
browser I have available to me (iOS and macOS) just wakes up the web browser 
with a new page that the link points to.

I used this short cut rather a lot when I was at the office … it's an efficient 
way to pass links around when you have been in progress in a related 
conversation already. Doing it via txt messages works too, but email is more 
secure.

G



On Jun 28, 2018, at 4:17 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

a friend of mine wanted to show me someone's web page. has a smart phone 
(I_phone) and the email sent from her phone came up with the link --in the 
subject line--
nothing in the body  except "sent from my phone"

so instead of clicking it - I had to highlight and copy and paste. when I told 
her that links belonged in the body of the mail she said she and all her 
friends send each other
links in subject lines and copy and paste.   she has a Gmail account - her 
seldom used laptop is a mac.

Is this Brave New World?she asked me if what I told her was "a microsoft 
thing".

finding this rather odd.

ann




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Re: a puzzlement..

2018-06-29 Thread ann sanfedele




On 6/29/2018 4:42 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Whether or not putting a link in the subject like *works* is neither
here nor there. It's not accepted practice to send links that way and
I'd say it's a bad idea from a security standpoint for anyone
*receiving* such a message to click a link in a subject line.

That is my feeling too..

  Too easy
to get in the habit of clicking such links and eventually get sent
somewhere bad by any of the all-too-numerous scumbags on the net.

Tell your friend to stop it for everyone's sake.
alas, that is not an option  - I tried that , in person... just a few 
minutes ago -- she is a neighbor.  That is, I tried to explain why I 
though it was perhaps not a good idea..
Bit apparently she says it works on her Mac computer as well as her 
phone.. She claims she only does it when she is already chatting with 
someone (in person or on phone texting) and drops a link into the 
subject line..  All her friends do it... - sigh.  Though she did admit 
at last to understanding my point of view about it...


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Re: a puzzlement.. http://www.example.com

2018-06-29 Thread Bob W-PDML
Your email client is looking after you.

> On 29 Jun 2018, at 22:44, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> That's interesting, but I couldn't use the link  above without highlighting, 
> copying and opening my browser to paste it..
> My friend claims it works as a hot link -
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 6/29/2018 4:46 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
>> I post links in the subject line to my home email from my work one, and vice 
>> versa quite often. It works fine on every platform I use,  including 
>> Outlook, ios mail and others
>> 
>>> On 29 Jun 2018, at 21:22, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 6/29/2018 3:46 PM, Jostein Øksne wrote:
 Puzzling answer. Not all together convinced that the person understand the 
 difference between subject line and main text.
>>> J - this was an exchange with her - I had asked if she would put her links 
>>> in body next time...   I'm wondering if it has to do with people 
>>> perpetually texting each other...
>>> 
>>> she has an I phone I believe.   I would say this was the first time she 
>>> sent me link -- normally an email from her has a comment of some sort, 
>>> elaborated on in the body, but
>>> always from her phone..   I have to admit to being annoyed at her "you're 
>>> friend are different than mine" crack.
>>> 
>>> It seems to me not a good practice - but maybe if you are texting back and 
>>> forth all the time sticking a hyerplink in a subject line is somehow easier 
>>> .
>>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2018, at 7:24 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have over 7,000 pieces of mail on my inbox  from people on phones, macs, 
>>> pc's, androids etc - lots of links.. none in subject line -- all in body  - 
>>> and I think there must be good reason for it. - I've queried my techies.. 
>>> stay tuned
>>> 
>>> a
>>> 
>>> ---she wrote ---
>>> Your friends are different from mine. They are totally live links. I just 
>>> click on it in subject line. You will just have to forgive me when I don’t 
>>> remember next time. It is how I always do it. Just what I am accustomed to 
>>> sending and receiving.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: a puzzlement.. http://www.example.com

2018-06-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It does work as a hot link on all my systems and browsers. This is a limitation 
of the system and app configuration you're using, that's all. 

G

> On Jun 29, 2018, at 2:43 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> That's interesting, but I couldn't use the link  above without highlighting, 
> copying and opening my browser to paste it..
> My friend claims it works as a hot link -

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Re: a puzzlement.. http://www.example.com

2018-06-29 Thread ann sanfedele
That's interesting, but I couldn't use the link  above without 
highlighting, copying and opening my browser to paste it..

My friend claims it works as a hot link -

ann

On 6/29/2018 4:46 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

I post links in the subject line to my home email from my work one, and vice 
versa quite often. It works fine on every platform I use,  including Outlook, 
ios mail and others


On 29 Jun 2018, at 21:22, ann sanfedele  wrote:




On 6/29/2018 3:46 PM, Jostein Øksne wrote:
Puzzling answer. Not all together convinced that the person understand the 
difference between subject line and main text.

J - this was an exchange with her - I had asked if she would put her links in 
body next time...   I'm wondering if it has to do with people perpetually 
texting each other...

she has an I phone I believe.   I would say this was the first time she sent me 
link -- normally an email from her has a comment of some sort, elaborated on in 
the body, but
always from her phone..   I have to admit to being annoyed at her "you're friend are 
different than mine" crack.

It seems to me not a good practice - but maybe if you are texting back and 
forth all the time sticking a hyerplink in a subject line is somehow easier .

On Jun 28, 2018, at 7:24 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I have over 7,000 pieces of mail on my inbox  from people on phones, macs, 
pc's, androids etc - lots of links.. none in subject line -- all in body  - and 
I think there must be good reason for it. - I've queried my techies.. stay tuned

a

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Your friends are different from mine. They are totally live links. I just click 
on it in subject line. You will just have to forgive me when I don’t remember 
next time. It is how I always do it. Just what I am accustomed to sending and 
receiving.

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Re: a puzzlement..

2018-06-29 Thread Darren Addy
I agree with Mark Roberts sentiments.

Interesting question Ann. So I decided to try it from my gmail
account. I typed http://www.theautodolly.com (one of my employer's web
sites) into the Gmail subject line and sent it to two recipents:
Myself via a different Gmail account and my work account which I
access via Outlook on a Windows machine.
As I expected, the subject line was NOT clickable in Gmail.
However, I was surprised to see it as a blue underlined link at the
top of the opened Outlook mail message. Clicking it did indeed take me
to a web site.
I don't believe I've ever seen that before and did not know it was possible.

My next question would be whether there is some way to put code in a
subject line so that a link APPEARED to go one place, but actually
went another. THAT would be especially dangerous, as you might think
you were going somewhere safe and instead be doing the opposite.
Outlook does not show you the actual destination of a link in the
subject line (anywhere that I can see).

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 3:42 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> Whether or not putting a link in the subject like *works* is neither
> here nor there. It's not accepted practice to send links that way and
> I'd say it's a bad idea from a security standpoint for anyone
> *receiving* such a message to click a link in a subject line. Too easy
> to get in the habit of clicking such links and eventually get sent
> somewhere bad by any of the all-too-numerous scumbags on the net.
>
> Tell your friend to stop it for everyone's sake.
>
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Re: a puzzlement..

2018-06-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It's a short cut, Ann … rather than writing a note that requires a text body, 
you just send the link as the subject line. Clicking it in every system and 
browser I have available to me (iOS and macOS) just wakes up the web browser 
with a new page that the link points to. 

I used this short cut rather a lot when I was at the office … it's an efficient 
way to pass links around when you have been in progress in a related 
conversation already. Doing it via txt messages works too, but email is more 
secure. 

G


> On Jun 28, 2018, at 4:17 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> a friend of mine wanted to show me someone's web page. has a smart phone 
> (I_phone) and the email sent from her phone came up with the link --in the 
> subject line--
> nothing in the body  except "sent from my phone"
> 
> so instead of clicking it - I had to highlight and copy and paste. when I 
> told her that links belonged in the body of the mail she said she and all her 
> friends send each other
> links in subject lines and copy and paste.   she has a Gmail account - her 
> seldom used laptop is a mac.
> 
> Is this Brave New World?she asked me if what I told her was "a microsoft 
> thing".
> 
> finding this rather odd.
> 
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Re: a puzzlement..

2018-06-29 Thread Jostein Øksne
Abducted by typography terrorists.


Den 29. juni 2018 22.39.25 CEST, skrev mike wilson :
>
>> On 29 June 2018 at 20:46 Jostein Øksne  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Puzzling answer. Not all together convinced that the person
>understand the difference between subject line and main text.
>> 
>> Jodtein
>
>Jodtein!  How's your brother?
>
>> 
>> Den 29. juni 2018 01.17.24 CEST, skrev ann sanfedele
>:
>> >a friend of mine wanted to show me someone's web page. has a smart
>> >phone 
>> >(I_phone) and the email sent from her phone came up with the link
>--in 
>> >the subject line--
>> >nothing in the body  except "sent from my phone"
>> >
>> >so instead of clicking it - I had to highlight and copy and paste.
>when
>> >
>> >I told her that links belonged in the body of the mail she said she
>and
>> >
>> >all her friends send each other
>> >links in subject lines and copy and paste.   she has a Gmail account
>- 
>> >her seldom used laptop is a mac.
>> >
>> >Is this Brave New World?she asked me if what I told her was "a 
>> >microsoft thing".
>> >
>> >finding this rather odd.
>> >
>> >ann
>>

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Re: a puzzlement..

2018-06-29 Thread lrc
PEBKAC 

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980506

A related step, though not necessarily about your friend, the two strips are 
often paired

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On June 29, 2018 12:46:36 PM PDT, "Jostein Øksne"  wrote:
>Puzzling answer. Not all together convinced that the person understand
>the difference between subject line and main text.
>
>Jodtein
>
>Den 29. juni 2018 01.17.24 CEST, skrev ann sanfedele
>:
>>a friend of mine wanted to show me someone's web page. has a smart
>>phone 
>>(I_phone) and the email sent from her phone came up with the link --in
>
>>the subject line--
>>nothing in the body  except "sent from my phone"
>>
>>so instead of clicking it - I had to highlight and copy and paste.
>when
>>
>>I told her that links belonged in the body of the mail she said she
>and
>>
>>all her friends send each other
>>links in subject lines and copy and paste.   she has a Gmail account -
>
>>her seldom used laptop is a mac.
>>
>>Is this Brave New World?    she asked me if what I told her was "a 
>>microsoft thing".
>>
>>finding this rather odd.
>>
>>ann
>
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Re: a puzzlement.. http://www.example.com

2018-06-29 Thread Bob W-PDML
I post links in the subject line to my home email from my work one, and vice 
versa quite often. It works fine on every platform I use,  including Outlook, 
ios mail and others

> On 29 Jun 2018, at 21:22, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 6/29/2018 3:46 PM, Jostein Øksne wrote:
>> Puzzling answer. Not all together convinced that the person understand the 
>> difference between subject line and main text.
> 
> J - this was an exchange with her - I had asked if she would put her links in 
> body next time...   I'm wondering if it has to do with people perpetually 
> texting each other...
> 
> she has an I phone I believe.   I would say this was the first time she sent 
> me link -- normally an email from her has a comment of some sort, elaborated 
> on in the body, but
> always from her phone..   I have to admit to being annoyed at her "you're 
> friend are different than mine" crack.
> 
> It seems to me not a good practice - but maybe if you are texting back and 
> forth all the time sticking a hyerplink in a subject line is somehow easier .
> 
> On Jun 28, 2018, at 7:24 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I have over 7,000 pieces of mail on my inbox  from people on phones, macs, 
> pc's, androids etc - lots of links.. none in subject line -- all in body  - 
> and I think there must be good reason for it. - I've queried my techies.. 
> stay tuned
> 
> a
> 
> ---she wrote ---
> Your friends are different from mine. They are totally live links. I just 
> click on it in subject line. You will just have to forgive me when I don’t 
> remember next time. It is how I always do it. Just what I am accustomed to 
> sending and receiving.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
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Re: a puzzlement..

2018-06-29 Thread Mark Roberts
Whether or not putting a link in the subject like *works* is neither
here nor there. It's not accepted practice to send links that way and
I'd say it's a bad idea from a security standpoint for anyone
*receiving* such a message to click a link in a subject line. Too easy
to get in the habit of clicking such links and eventually get sent
somewhere bad by any of the all-too-numerous scumbags on the net.

Tell your friend to stop it for everyone's sake.
 
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Re: a puzzlement..

2018-06-29 Thread mike wilson

> On 29 June 2018 at 20:46 Jostein Øksne  wrote:
> 
> 
> Puzzling answer. Not all together convinced that the person understand the 
> difference between subject line and main text.
> 
> Jodtein

Jodtein!  How's your brother?

> 
> Den 29. juni 2018 01.17.24 CEST, skrev ann sanfedele :
> >a friend of mine wanted to show me someone's web page. has a smart
> >phone 
> >(I_phone) and the email sent from her phone came up with the link --in 
> >the subject line--
> >nothing in the body  except "sent from my phone"
> >
> >so instead of clicking it - I had to highlight and copy and paste. when
> >
> >I told her that links belonged in the body of the mail she said she and
> >
> >all her friends send each other
> >links in subject lines and copy and paste.   she has a Gmail account - 
> >her seldom used laptop is a mac.
> >
> >Is this Brave New World?she asked me if what I told her was "a 
> >microsoft thing".
> >
> >finding this rather odd.
> >
> >ann
>

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Re: a puzzlement..

2018-06-29 Thread mike wilson

> On 29 June 2018 at 21:21 ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/29/2018 3:46 PM, Jostein Øksne wrote:
> > Puzzling answer. Not all together convinced that the person understand the 
> > difference between subject line and main text.
> 
> J - this was an exchange with her - I had asked if she would put her links in 
> body next time...   I'm wondering if it has to do with people perpetually 
> texting each other...
> 
> she has an I phone I believe.   I would say this was the first time she 
> sent me link -- normally an email from her has a comment of some sort, 
> elaborated on in the body, but
> always from her phone..   I have to admit to being annoyed at her 
> "you're friend are different than mine" crack.

Don't worry - we take it as a compliment.  Especially as it's semi-literate.

> 
> It seems to me not a good practice - but maybe if you are texting back 
> and forth all the time sticking a hyerplink in a subject line is somehow 
> easier .
> 
> On Jun 28, 2018, at 7:24 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I have over 7,000 pieces of mail on my inbox  from people on phones, macs, 
> pc's, androids etc - lots of links.. none in subject line -- all in body  - 
> and I think there must be good reason for it. - I've queried my techies.. 
> stay tuned
> 
> a
> 
> ---she wrote ---
> Your friends are different from mine. They are totally live links. I just 
> click on it in subject line. You will just have to forgive me when I don’t 
> remember next time. It is how I always do it. Just what I am accustomed to 
> sending and receiving.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
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Re: a puzzlement..

2018-06-29 Thread ann sanfedele




On 6/29/2018 3:46 PM, Jostein Øksne wrote:

Puzzling answer. Not all together convinced that the person understand the 
difference between subject line and main text.


J - this was an exchange with her - I had asked if she would put her links in 
body next time...   I'm wondering if it has to do with people perpetually 
texting each other...

she has an I phone I believe.   I would say this was the first time she 
sent me link -- normally an email from her has a comment of some sort, 
elaborated on in the body, but
always from her phone..   I have to admit to being annoyed at her 
"you're friend are different than mine" crack.


It seems to me not a good practice - but maybe if you are texting back 
and forth all the time sticking a hyerplink in a subject line is somehow 
easier .


On Jun 28, 2018, at 7:24 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I have over 7,000 pieces of mail on my inbox  from people on phones, macs, 
pc's, androids etc - lots of links.. none in subject line -- all in body  - and 
I think there must be good reason for it. - I've queried my techies.. stay tuned

a

---she wrote ---
Your friends are different from mine. They are totally live links. I just click 
on it in subject line. You will just have to forgive me when I don’t remember 
next time. It is how I always do it. Just what I am accustomed to sending and 
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Re: a puzzlement..

2018-06-29 Thread Jostein Øksne
Puzzling answer. Not all together convinced that the person understand the 
difference between subject line and main text.

Jodtein

Den 29. juni 2018 01.17.24 CEST, skrev ann sanfedele :
>a friend of mine wanted to show me someone's web page. has a smart
>phone 
>(I_phone) and the email sent from her phone came up with the link --in 
>the subject line--
>nothing in the body  except "sent from my phone"
>
>so instead of clicking it - I had to highlight and copy and paste. when
>
>I told her that links belonged in the body of the mail she said she and
>
>all her friends send each other
>links in subject lines and copy and paste.   she has a Gmail account - 
>her seldom used laptop is a mac.
>
>Is this Brave New World?    she asked me if what I told her was "a 
>microsoft thing".
>
>finding this rather odd.
>
>ann

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