April PUG is up

[Brian W]

G'day all

Some interesting and unusual interpretations of "Still Life" - some you might
not expect.

Enjoy the new gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
let me know.

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Next up: 'Railway'.

Remember that increased image sizes are now permitted - 500 kb max file size and
1350 x 950 pixels max image dimensions. Full Submissions Guidelines are here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

You can submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Cheers
Brian
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Re: PESO x2: Fantail

[lrc]

That second shot is wonderful

On April 3, 2021 3:01:23 AM PDT, David Mann  wrote:
>While chasing the warbler this morning we had a couple of fantails
>visit.  These are another one that rarely sits still, but they're quite
>a bit tamer.  They eat insects, mostly caught on-the-wing.
>
>http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1112/#peso
>
>http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo//#peso
>
>These were both shot with the K5ii and FA*400mm f/5.6, handheld.  I
>didn't have enough light so the photos were underexposed by 1 stop or
>so.  The lens was wide open and I'm surprised (amazed, actually) at how
>well the body hit the focus in such low light.  And that it chose the
>right thing to focus on.
>
>Cheers,
>Dave
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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 03.04.21 um 22:20 schrieb John:


I still have my K1000, LX, SuperProgram, PZ-1p (x2), *ist-D, K10D, K20D


Do you still use any of them?

Ralf

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Re: And now for something different

[ann sanfedele]

er. bad time for me to typo.. I meant NFT..  :-)

We will soon know who has to ask what I'm talking about...

Meanwhile - it is a handsome image by itself - rather Escheresque

ann


On 4/3/2021 6:07 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

Sooo Juan, how much is the NFD file selling for?  :-)

ann

On 4/3/2021 5:22 PM, Juan Buhler wrote:
I made a plot of about 3000 of my photos (all posted to my photoblog 
over

the years) according to positions in the plane that come from a neural
network.

Without getting into technical detail: images that are close to each 
other
are semantically similar to each other. So there are areas of photos 
with

dogs, others with bicycles, on the beach, etc etc.

https://twitter.com/juanbuhler/status/1378455676444270593

To see the high res image and zoom in, look at the file directly:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyFA3LlU4Ag0QRQ?format=jpg=4096x4096

I thought it was an interesting way of seeing a collection of photos and
discovering emerging visual themes. Also it's what I do for a living 
so I

figured why not.

Most of these were taken on Pentax cameras, so on topic! :)

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Re: And now for something different

[ann sanfedele]

Sooo Juan, how much is the NFD file selling for?  :-)

ann

On 4/3/2021 5:22 PM, Juan Buhler wrote:

I made a plot of about 3000 of my photos (all posted to my photoblog over
the years) according to positions in the plane that come from a neural
network.

Without getting into technical detail: images that are close to each other
are semantically similar to each other. So there are areas of photos with
dogs, others with bicycles, on the beach, etc etc.

https://twitter.com/juanbuhler/status/1378455676444270593

To see the high res image and zoom in, look at the file directly:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyFA3LlU4Ag0QRQ?format=jpg=4096x4096

I thought it was an interesting way of seeing a collection of photos and
discovering emerging visual themes. Also it's what I do for a living so I
figured why not.

Most of these were taken on Pentax cameras, so on topic! :)

j

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Re: And now for something different

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Very interesting.

Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 5:23 PM Juan Buhler  wrote:

> I made a plot of about 3000 of my photos (all posted to my photoblog over
> the years) according to positions in the plane that come from a neural
> network.
>
> Without getting into technical detail: images that are close to each other
> are semantically similar to each other. So there are areas of photos with
> dogs, others with bicycles, on the beach, etc etc.
>
> https://twitter.com/juanbuhler/status/1378455676444270593
>
> To see the high res image and zoom in, look at the file directly:
>
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyFA3LlU4Ag0QRQ?format=jpg=4096x4096
>
> I thought it was an interesting way of seeing a collection of photos and
> discovering emerging visual themes. Also it's what I do for a living so I
> figured why not.
>
> Most of these were taken on Pentax cameras, so on topic! :)
>
> j
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And now for something different

[Juan Buhler]

I made a plot of about 3000 of my photos (all posted to my photoblog over
the years) according to positions in the plane that come from a neural
network.

Without getting into technical detail: images that are close to each other
are semantically similar to each other. So there are areas of photos with
dogs, others with bicycles, on the beach, etc etc.

https://twitter.com/juanbuhler/status/1378455676444270593

To see the high res image and zoom in, look at the file directly:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyFA3LlU4Ag0QRQ?format=jpg=4096x4096

I thought it was an interesting way of seeing a collection of photos and
discovering emerging visual themes. Also it's what I do for a living so I
figured why not.

Most of these were taken on Pentax cameras, so on topic! :)

j

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Re: PESO x2: Fantail

[David Mann]

Thanks everyone for the feedback.  Due to shooting wide-open and having the 
exposure wrong I wasn't expecting much so I was pleasantly surprised to have 
them come out so well.  I might revisit the rendering if I get some time later.

Cheers,
Dave

> On Apr 4, 2021, at 12:56 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> oh Dave that second one is terrific!  first one a nice little shot  but it 
> disappears from memory once you see the second..  nice timing! nice everything
> 
> ann
> 
> On 4/3/2021 6:01 AM, David Mann wrote:
>> While chasing the warbler this morning we had a couple of fantails visit.  
>> These are another one that rarely sits still, but they're quite a bit tamer. 
>>  They eat insects, mostly caught on-the-wing.
>> 
>> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1112/#peso
>> 
>> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo//#peso
>> 
>> These were both shot with the K5ii and FA*400mm f/5.6, handheld.  I didn't 
>> have enough light so the photos were underexposed by 1 stop or so.  The lens 
>> was wide open and I'm surprised (amazed, actually) at how well the body hit 
>> the focus in such low light.  And that it chose the right thing to focus on.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
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Re: PESO: Another Grey Warbler

[David Mann]

Yes, I did boost the shadow detail a fair bit but I didn't want to overdo it.  
I also pulled the highlights down a bit.  The light was very contrasty.

Cheers,
Dave

> On Apr 4, 2021, at 12:56 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Nice framing and focus. You can boost the shadow detail when rendering.
> 
> Paul
> 
>> On Apr 3, 2021, at 4:11 AM, David Mann  wrote:
>> 
>> My little feathered friend came back this morning so here's yet another 
>> bird photo.
>> 
>> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1110/#peso
>> 
>> Pentax K5ii, FA*400mm f/5.6, ISO3200, 1/750 at f/11 handheld
>> 
>> On a technical note, I've tweaked my gallery to support hidpi images (at 
>> least on individual photo pages).  Please let me know if you encounter any 
>> problems.  I've updated the two pics I posted yesterday with hidpi images, 
>> links below if you really want to see them again.
>> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1109/#peso
>> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1108/#peso
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[Bill]

On Sat., Apr. 3, 2021, 2:40 p.m. John,  wrote:

> FWIW, I don't think the hot-shoe cover design has changed since the PZ-1p.
> I
> probably have more of them than I have hot-shoes to cover.
>
> I found several rummaging around in miscellaneous Pentax stuff at camera
> stores
> when I was looking for the style of real lens caps I prefer.
>
>
> https://www.nordic-digital.com/en/lens-accessories/7623-pentax-rear-lens-cap-k-31006
>
> ... shaped like a little top hat with a wide flange where it fits on to
> the bayonet.
>
> I still don't understand why someone would pay $50 for a replacement
> hot-shoe
> cover. If you lost the one that came with the camera, aren't you just as
> likely
> to lose the replacement one too?
>

I'm pretty sure the camera comes with the typical hot shoe cover. The 50
dollar one is some sort of collectors item.
I don't get it, but apparently the home market is big on this stuff.

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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[Bill]

On Sat., Apr. 3, 2021, 1:29 p.m. Ralf R Radermacher, 
wrote:

> Am 31.03.21 um 09:33 schrieb Henk Terhell:
> > https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-initial-review
> > Recommended price is $ 2000.
>
> What am I to make of this:
>
> "The PENTAX K-3 Mark III allows AE photography at the closed-down
> aperture for M-series lenses and lenses that previously could be used
> only in open-aperture shooting."
>
> Any difference to the behaviour of former Pentax DSLR bodies with e.g. M
> lenses? Wouldn't I have to use the green button for measuring anymore?
>

Green button automatic now works off the shutter button. Push the shutter
button and it goes through the green button motions and takes the picture.
Since the camera works at 12fps, this should be a very quick operation.
I believe they have extended the feature to a couple of other exposure
modes, but I don't recall which ones.

bill

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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[Larry Colen]

> On Apr 3, 2021, at 1:40 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> FWIW, I don't think the hot-shoe cover design has changed since the PZ-1p. I 
> probably have more of them than I have hot-shoes to cover.
> 
> I found several rummaging around in miscellaneous Pentax stuff at camera 
> stores when I was looking for the style of real lens caps I prefer.
> 
> https://www.nordic-digital.com/en/lens-accessories/7623-pentax-rear-lens-cap-k-31006
> 
> ... shaped like a little top hat with a wide flange where it fits on to the 
> bayonet.
> 
> I still don't understand why someone would pay $50 for a replacement hot-shoe 
> cover. If you lost the one that came with the camera, aren’t
> you just as likely to lose the replacement one too?
> 

Because they are collectors and buy collectors items.



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Re: An old Sears M42 preset 35mm lens

[Steve Cottrell]

On 3/4/21, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed:

> It's cool to see that works at a small scale as
>well.

Absolutely! Enjoying the progression mate - keep em coming :-)




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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[John]

FWIW, I don't think the hot-shoe cover design has changed since the PZ-1p. I 
probably have more of them than I have hot-shoes to cover.


I found several rummaging around in miscellaneous Pentax stuff at camera stores 
when I was looking for the style of real lens caps I prefer.


https://www.nordic-digital.com/en/lens-accessories/7623-pentax-rear-lens-cap-k-31006

... shaped like a little top hat with a wide flange where it fits on to the 
bayonet.

I still don't understand why someone would pay $50 for a replacement hot-shoe 
cover. If you lost the one that came with the camera, aren't you just as likely 
to lose the replacement one too?


On 4/3/2021 11:00:35, Alan C wrote:
Sorry chaps, it's probably all my fault. I didn't mean to be a red rag. I simply 
said that I was surprised an external charger wasn't included when you are 
already paying so much for the camera. Thank goodness it wasn't me who mentioned 
the lack of a hot-shoe cover.


Alan C

On 03-Apr-21 04:44 PM, Bill wrote:

On 4/3/2021 2:24 AM, mike wilson wrote:



On 03 April 2021 at 03:39 John  wrote:


Can't you charge the battery using the original K-3 or K-3 II chargers? Or for
that matter, since the K-1 uses the same battery, use that charger?

As long as the previous versions of the charger work with it, the lack of the
charger wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.


Except if you have to sell your existing camera to finance the new, you 
are less likely to sell/will command a lower price without the charger.


Dear God, we certainly do our very best to find non existent problems don't we?

If you need more than one battery for a day's shooting, then when you buy your 
spare battery, spend the (in my case Can$40.00) for a charger to go along with 
it.
If you don't need more than one battery per day of shooting, plug the camera 
in before you go to sleep and have a charged battery in the morning.


I really didn't realize this shit was rocket science.

bill
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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[John]

On 4/3/2021 04:24:21, mike wilson wrote:



On 03 April 2021 at 03:39 John  wrote:


Can't you charge the battery using the original K-3 or K-3 II chargers? Or for
that matter, since the K-1 uses the same battery, use that charger?

As long as the previous versions of the charger work with it, the lack of the
charger wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.


Except if you have to sell your existing camera to finance the new, you are 
less likely to sell/will command a lower price without the charger.
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Valid point, but I'm unlikely to sell an existing camera to finance a new one.

I still have my K1000, LX, SuperProgram, PZ-1p (x2), *ist-D, K10D, K20D ... 
along with the K-3 & K-1.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/29760575660/in/photostream/lightbox/

... and a Bronica ETRS & a couple of 4x5 cameras.

I'm not a collector, but I am a keeper.

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Re: OT: Backroad Buildings photo book

[Ken Waller]

Don’t forget the ‘Wall Drug Store’ signs.


-Original Message-
>From: John 
>Sent: Apr 3, 2021 1:50 AM
>To: pdml@pdml.net
>Subject: Re: OT: Backroad Buildings photo book
>
>Burma-Shave signs were fun. And "See Rock City" painted on barn roofs.
>
>Stuckey's and "South of the Border" signs existed BEFORE I-95.
>
>I was lucky my family made a couple of road trips out to California (from NC) 
>while I was still at home and I got to see Route 66 in 1960 before I-40 
>replaced 
>most of it.
>
>We went again in 1964 and by then most of the trip was on Interstates. But 
>they 
>hadn't completely replaced the old highways.
>
>The 1964 trip was when the Ranger at The Petrified Forest directed my dad to 
>pull off "where they were building the new highway" (I-40) "and we could pick 
>up 
>all the petrified wood we wanted" because it was outside of the National Park.
>
>In 1960 we saw the Grand Canyon (even if we only did get to spend an hour 
>before 
>we had to get back on the road) & the Meteor Crater.
>
>In 1964 we saw the Giant Redwoods & Yosemite, taking California Hwy 120 east 
>eventually ending up on US 95 in Nevada ... I won 20¢ from a dime slot machine 
>in the lobby of a Howard Johnson's Restaurant in Las Vegas before the waitress 
>saw me and FREAKED OUT ... we drove across the Hoover Dam and visited Mesa 
>Verde.
>
>
>On 4/2/2021 22:07:21, ann sanfedele wrote:
>> As a child there was much auto travelling on these two lane roads most often 
>> in 
>> the midwest and southeast..
>> I remember fondly Burma-Shave signs... I'm guessing some of you guys here 
>> remember them as well.
>> ann
>> On 4/2/2021 9:12 PM, John wrote:
>>> I believe the mystery shed was from a local "chain" of roadside peanut 
>>> stands. 
>>> I've seen several of them at one time or another traveling through the 
>>> Carolinas.
>>>
>>> I think they date from the 50s before the advent of the Interstate Highway, 
>>> when the old two-lane highways went through local communities.
>>>
>>> On 3/31/2021 16:50:34, ann sanfedele wrote:
 The gas stations do it for me.. and yes, that last photo  of the truck 
 stop 
 especially...and that crazy mystery shed!
 guess I should start hauling out some of mine in this genre... which I 
 actually had started to search for thinking of  next years calendar.
 a phonebook, eh?  is this a "thing" now?  books meant to be viewed on 
 smartphones?

 ann

 On 3/31/2021 3:50 PM, Bob Pdml wrote:
> I love that last building, the deco one. Some others with very nice 
> architecture too.
>
>> On 31 Mar 2021, at 20:21, Stanley Halpin  
>> wrote:
>>
>> As seen in the Guardian today, a new phonebook just out: Backroad 
>> Buildings. Based on the samples in the article (linked below) these are 
>> the 
>> sort of scenes that really resonate with me, and many of my own favorite 
>> shots are in this genre.
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2021/mar/31/americas-backroads-buildings-in-pictures?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
>>  
>>
>>
>> Stan
>> -- 
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>>>
>>>
>> 
>
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Re: An old Sears M42 preset 35mm lens

[John]

On 4/3/2021 06:40:53, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 2/4/21, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed:


Super short, 2'34" video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgZP4iBRI6E


Much better! Love it. Just watch out for serif fonts as they are a bit harder 
to read but Americans seem to like them ;-)



Probably an over-reaction to being scared by Comic Sans when we were all much 
younger.



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Re: OT Superzooms

[John]

On 4/3/2021 14:47:14, Bob Pdml wrote:

On 3 Apr 2021, at 19:10, Larry Colen  wrote:


 I was seriously considering looking into micro 4/3 (like John is fond of)
as something to carry on my bicycle.  The other advantage of u4/3 is that
you can get adapters to use pretty much any 35mm system lens ever made,
albeit in manual focus.


The perfect camera kit for cycling is available from the same outlets as the
perfect camera bag...


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Re: PESO: Another Grey Warbler

[John]

It's a much better image, but I note the replacement hidpi images are also much 
better.


On 4/3/2021 04:11:13, David Mann wrote:

My little feathered friend came back this morning so here's yet another bird
photo.

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1110/#peso

Pentax K5ii, FA*400mm f/5.6, ISO3200, 1/750 at f/11 handheld

On a technical note, I've tweaked my gallery to support hidpi images (at
least on individual photo pages).  Please let me know if you encounter any
problems.  I've updated the two pics I posted yesterday with hidpi images,
links below if you really want to see them again. 
http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1109/#peso 
http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1108/#peso


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Re: OT: Backroad Buildings photo book

[John]

On 4/3/2021 03:05:34, Bob Pdml wrote:

On 3 Apr 2021, at 06:50, John  wrote:


[...]

I was lucky my family made a couple of road trips out to California (from
NC) while I was still at home and I got to see Route 66 in 1960 before I-40
replaced most of it.

We went again in 1964 and by then most of the trip was on Interstates. But
they hadn't completely replaced the old highways.

The 1964 trip was when the Ranger at The Petrified Forest directed my dad
to pull off "where they were building the new highway" (I-40) "and we could
pick up all the petrified wood we wanted" because it was outside of the
National Park.


Does that mean you can’t get your sticks on Route 66?

--


I guess not. That part of Route 66 through Arizona is long gone.

But I-40 is still there & the park boundaries are clearly marked.

On one of my trips out west since I got home from Iraq, I stopped at the place 
where I thought we might have been in 64 to see if I could find any petrified 
wood. I'm pretty sure Arizona doesn't have any law against collecting petrified 
wood outside of the park boundaries.


In 64 the lanes had recently been graded, but not yet paved, and where the 
shoulder of the highway is today there was just a line of freshly plowed dirt in 
a linear mound. That's where we found the petrified wood.


Since then the highway has been paved, the shoulder is paved & the right-of-way 
on either side has been seeded with grass (or what passes for grass in Arizona) 
and when I stopped in 2013 (almost 50 years later) I didn't seen any petrified 
wood just lying about on the surface.


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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[mike wilson]

> On 03 April 2021 at 15:44 Bill  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 4/3/2021 2:24 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> > 
> >> On 03 April 2021 at 03:39 John  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Can't you charge the battery using the original K-3 or K-3 II chargers? Or 
> >> for
> >> that matter, since the K-1 uses the same battery, use that charger?
> >>
> >> As long as the previous versions of the charger work with it, the lack of 
> >> the
> >> charger wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.
> > 
> > Except if you have to sell your existing camera to finance the new, you 
> > are less likely to sell/will command a lower price without the charger.
> 
> Dear God, we certainly do our very best to find non existent problems 
> don't we?
> 
> If you need more than one battery for a day's shooting, then when you 
> buy your spare battery, spend the (in my case Can$40.00) for a charger 
> to go along with it.
> If you don't need more than one battery per day of shooting, plug the 
> camera in before you go to sleep and have a charged battery in the morning.
> 
> I really didn't realize this shit was rocket science.

I don't necessarily disagree with you about the _need_ for a battery charger 
for many buyers; my point is that, for an unknown percentage of buyers, the 
$40:00 extra might be the difference between buying and not.  Assuming the 
wholesale cost of a charger would be $20 and the cost to buy from the 
manufacturer in bulk would be half that, it does rather come over as spoiling 
the ship for a ha'porth of tar.  The packaging probably costs more.
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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 31.03.21 um 09:33 schrieb Henk Terhell:

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-initial-review
Recommended price is $ 2000.


What am I to make of this:

"The PENTAX K-3 Mark III allows AE photography at the closed-down
aperture for M-series lenses and lenses that previously could be used
only in open-aperture shooting."

Any difference to the behaviour of former Pentax DSLR bodies with e.g. M
lenses? Wouldn't I have to use the green button for measuring anymore?

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Re: An old Sears M42 preset 35mm lens

[Juan Buhler]

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:18 PM John  wrote:

> I like the dog.
>

It's important to pay the dog tax for every video I make, I am committed to
this :)

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On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 8:18 PM John  wrote:
>
>> I like the dog.
>>
>
> On 4/2/2021 17:07:14, Juan Buhler wrote:
> > I suppose since this lens is M42 then it is on-topic enough to post here?
> > I found this lens on ebay for not too much money, and thought it was
> > interesting because I haven't seen many M42 preset lenses that weren't
> made
> > in the Soviet Union.
> >
> > Super short, 2'34" video:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgZP4iBRI6E
> >
> > I have another short video about the FA35 queued to be posted next week.
> > I'm also open to suggestions, I have tons of lenses and it's hard to
> choose
> > which one to do next. What do you people think?
> >
> > Some candidates:
> >
> > K24/3.5
> > M24-35/3.5
> > Super Takumar 35/3.5
> > Super Takumar 28/3.5
> > Cheap/off brand 24/2.8 K mount (Marexar I think?)
> > Kiron 28/2 (I think this one has haze though!)
> >
> > or even
> >
> > Minolta 50mm macro
> > 50mm Summilux with old dead fungus (this will actually be super
> interesting
> > I think!)
> > Industar 26 (50mm 2.8)
> > Jupiter 8 (50mm 2)
> > MIR-1B (37mm 2.8)
> >
> > Yes I guess I do have a problem...
> >
> > j
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Re: An old Sears M42 preset 35mm lens

[Juan Buhler]

Thanks Alan.

The reason I believe this one was made by Tokina is several other Tokina
lenses I see online that have very similar or the same design:

http://forum.mflenses.com/vemar-old-tokina-135-28-t38951.html
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-m42-mount-tokina-28mm-f3-lens-1806269079

Those are two examples but there are more. I might be wrong though!

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On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 6:14 AM Alan C  wrote:

> Well done, Juan. If I'm not mistaken, Sears lenses were made by Ricoh
> for Sears Merchandising so it is not OT! (Soligor lenses were made by
> Tokina). I've seen some advertised in SA but wasn't tempted! Seems to be
> much like the original Takumar lenses in operation.
>
> Alan C
>
> On 02-Apr-21 11:07 PM, Juan Buhler wrote:
> > I suppose since this lens is M42 then it is on-topic enough to post here?
> > I found this lens on ebay for not too much money, and thought it was
> > interesting because I haven't seen many M42 preset lenses that weren't
> made
> > in the Soviet Union.
> >
> > Super short, 2'34" video:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgZP4iBRI6E
> >
> > I have another short video about the FA35 queued to be posted next week.
> > I'm also open to suggestions, I have tons of lenses and it's hard to
> choose
> > which one to do next. What do you people think?
> >
> > Some candidates:
> >
> > K24/3.5
> > M24-35/3.5
> > Super Takumar 35/3.5
> > Super Takumar 28/3.5
> > Cheap/off brand 24/2.8 K mount (Marexar I think?)
> > Kiron 28/2 (I think this one has haze though!)
> >
> > or even
> >
> > Minolta 50mm macro
> > 50mm Summilux with old dead fungus (this will actually be super
> interesting
> > I think!)
> > Industar 26 (50mm 2.8)
> > Jupiter 8 (50mm 2)
> > MIR-1B (37mm 2.8)
> >
> > Yes I guess I do have a problem...
> >
> > j
> > --
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Re: An old Sears M42 preset 35mm lens

[Juan Buhler]

Thanks Cotty!

I still see tons of issues with my videos though!

I've been trying to make the fonts period-correct for the lens I'm looking
at, but you're right, I wasn't paying attention to serif vs sans-serif.

It's a really interesting process, not only I'm learning a bit about making
the videos themselves, but the overall production pipeline is fun and
rewarding to put together. Early on I wanted to assess the cost/benefit of
the whole process, and decided that making a new video all together should
not take more than 4-5 hours, not including the time making photos with a
given lens. Otherwise it's not worth it. Right now I have about 1-2 weeks
lead time for any video, so at any given time I have one or two videos I
haven't posted yet.

I always had a lot of respect for people doing film production (as opposed
to the actual, in my case, animators, software developers, etc) and how
their work keeps the process going and how a good producer can make the
whole thing pleasant and productive and a bad one can create a nightmare of
overtime and frustration. It's cool to see that works at a small scale as
well.

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On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 3:41 AM Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> On 2/4/21, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >Super short, 2'34" video:
> >
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgZP4iBRI6E
>
> Much better! Love it. Just watch out for serif fonts as they are a bit
> harder to read but Americans seem to like them ;-)
>
>
>
>
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Re: OT Superzooms

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On 3 Apr 2021, at 19:10, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> I was seriously considering looking into micro 4/3 (like John is fond of) as 
> something to carry on my bicycle.  The other advantage of u4/3 is that you 
> can get adapters to use pretty much any 35mm system lens ever made, albeit in 
> manual focus.  

The perfect camera kit for cycling is available from the same outlets as the 
perfect camera bag...


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Re: OT Superzooms

[Toine]

I'm very seriously thinking about a nikon p950 or sony rx10iv for long
walks. The p950 is very tempting, the sony has about the same range as my
da300 and tc. Probably the best image quality. So yes an addition to the
dslr.

On Sat, 3 Apr 2021, 20:10 Larry Colen,  wrote:

>
>
> > On Apr 3, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Toine  wrote:
> >
> > After realizing my next photo buying frenzy probably involves a $2000
> > body and if I make that kind of investment also a $2000 LBA 150-450
> > for serious birding I think I should consider other options for
> > birding. Also considering the heavy weight lifting for 3-4 hours while
> > strolling around in the woods. Breaking both my wallet and my back.
> > Maybe a Superzoom like the Nikon Coolpix P950? I switched from analog
> > Pentax to digital on the Coolpix 950. Why not switch again to a 950 :)
> >
> > Any list wisdom on superzooms which support RAW format?
>
> I had a Lumix FZ50 which I absolutely loved in many respects.  For one, it
> handled just like an SLR.  There are certain advantages to the electronic
> viewfinder, like being able to see the histogram in real time.  There were
> also certain disadvantages, and one day of shooting I switched between the
> FZ50 and my SRT-101 and the optical viewfinder was incredibly spacious and
> easier to see through.  EVF technology has improved, and in low light it is
> easier to manually focus with an EVF than an optical.
>
> I went from that to the K100, which by today’s standards had abysmal high
> ISO performance, but even so compared to the FZ50 it was like night and
> day.  I had considered that replacing my stolen FZ50 might be an economical
> alternative to a long lens, but then I found an amazing deal on a used
> bigma.
>
> I would suggest getting a bridge camera, initially, as a supplement to
> your DSLR.  There are many cases where they do well, and others where they
> do not.  Sensor performance is roughly the square of the sensor size and
> lens weight is roughly the cube of sensor size. This leads into some
> interesting calculus for the optimal sensor size balancing performance and
> weight, but the bridge cameras tend to be closer to cell phone sensors than
> DSLR.  If you get a bridge camera, you cannot upgrade the sensor without
> replacing the glass.  On the other hand they can optimize everything to
> work together and you are also much less likely to get dust on the sensor.
>
> I was seriously considering looking into micro 4/3 (like John is fond of)
> as something to carry on my bicycle.  The other advantage of u4/3 is that
> you can get adapters to use pretty much any 35mm system lens ever made,
> albeit in manual focus.
>
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Re: OT Superzooms

[Larry Colen]

> On Apr 3, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Toine  wrote:
> 
> After realizing my next photo buying frenzy probably involves a $2000
> body and if I make that kind of investment also a $2000 LBA 150-450
> for serious birding I think I should consider other options for
> birding. Also considering the heavy weight lifting for 3-4 hours while
> strolling around in the woods. Breaking both my wallet and my back.
> Maybe a Superzoom like the Nikon Coolpix P950? I switched from analog
> Pentax to digital on the Coolpix 950. Why not switch again to a 950 :)
> 
> Any list wisdom on superzooms which support RAW format?

I had a Lumix FZ50 which I absolutely loved in many respects.  For one, it 
handled just like an SLR.  There are certain advantages to the electronic 
viewfinder, like being able to see the histogram in real time.  There were also 
certain disadvantages, and one day of shooting I switched between the FZ50 and 
my SRT-101 and the optical viewfinder was incredibly spacious and easier to see 
through.  EVF technology has improved, and in low light it is easier to 
manually focus with an EVF than an optical.

I went from that to the K100, which by today’s standards had abysmal high ISO 
performance, but even so compared to the FZ50 it was like night and day.  I had 
considered that replacing my stolen FZ50 might be an economical alternative to 
a long lens, but then I found an amazing deal on a used bigma.

I would suggest getting a bridge camera, initially, as a supplement to your 
DSLR.  There are many cases where they do well, and others where they do not.  
Sensor performance is roughly the square of the sensor size and lens weight is 
roughly the cube of sensor size. This leads into some interesting calculus for 
the optimal sensor size balancing performance and weight, but the bridge 
cameras tend to be closer to cell phone sensors than DSLR.  If you get a bridge 
camera, you cannot upgrade the sensor without replacing the glass.  On the 
other hand they can optimize everything to work together and you are also much 
less likely to get dust on the sensor.

I was seriously considering looking into micro 4/3 (like John is fond of) as 
something to carry on my bicycle.  The other advantage of u4/3 is that you can 
get adapters to use pretty much any 35mm system lens ever made, albeit in 
manual focus.  


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Re: OT Superzooms

[John Francis]

On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 06:10:41PM +0200, Toine wrote:
> After realizing my next photo buying frenzy probably involves a $2000
> body and if I make that kind of investment also a $2000 LBA 150-450
> for serious birding I think I should consider other options for
> birding. Also considering the heavy weight lifting for 3-4 hours while
> strolling around in the woods. Breaking both my wallet and my back.
> Maybe a Superzoom like the Nikon Coolpix P950? I switched from analog
> Pentax to digital on the Coolpix 950. Why not switch again to a 950 :)

Yep- that's about where I am.  Except I'm thinking about possibly going
totally to an Olympuus-based system, which would probably end up closer
to $7000+  That would mean I'd have a lot of Pentax gear I could sell...
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Re: PESO - Fence Shadow

[Larry Colen]

> On Apr 3, 2021, at 8:58 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> A March leftover: Sunlight shining through our back yard fence on a March 
> afternoon:
> 
> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2021/March-2021/Miscellany/i-vpMpxzK/A
> 
> (K-5, DA 17-70)
> 
> Comments always appreciated, from withering criticism to blush-inducing 
> flattery. 

Interesting geometry, I think it would benefit from not having the chair in the 
upper corner.

I have seen some very interesting nudes where the thin slices of light like 
that define topographic lines across the form, and the photograph is then 
exposed for the brightly lit areas.


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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[Bill]

On 4/3/2021 9:00 AM, Alan C wrote:
Sorry chaps, it's probably all my fault. I didn't mean to be a red rag. 
I simply said that I was surprised an external charger wasn't included 
when you are already paying so much for the camera. Thank goodness it 
wasn't me who mentioned the lack of a hot-shoe cover.




At some point the first world problems just become too much to bear.

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Re: OT some of you already know..

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 02.04.21 um 22:30 schrieb Juan Buhler:

Glad y'all are getting shots!


Just got the date for my first shot: next Thursday. Comes a bit sudden
and unexpected but Michael insisted I try once more to get through on
this chronically overloaded online system they're using here to make
those dates and well... bingo...

Won't be sleeping well the next nights, as my relation to doctors of all
kinds can best be compared to that of the devil to holy water or
vampires to garlic. Plus we're snowed under with work and I can't afford
to spend days with chills and fever.

Oh, and it'll be ZA. So much for a relaxed Easter sunday.

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Re: OT Superzooms

[Alan C]

This:

https://www.dpreview.com/articles/6629384105/fujifilm-finepix-s1-is-worlds-first-weather-resistant-superzoom#specs

My wife has an older one (without RAW) but it performs very well.

Alan C

On 03-Apr-21 06:10 PM, Toine wrote:

After realizing my next photo buying frenzy probably involves a $2000
body and if I make that kind of investment also a $2000 LBA 150-450
for serious birding I think I should consider other options for
birding. Also considering the heavy weight lifting for 3-4 hours while
strolling around in the woods. Breaking both my wallet and my back.
Maybe a Superzoom like the Nikon Coolpix P950? I switched from analog
Pentax to digital on the Coolpix 950. Why not switch again to a 950 :)

Any list wisdom on superzooms which support RAW format?
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OT Superzooms

[Toine]

After realizing my next photo buying frenzy probably involves a $2000
body and if I make that kind of investment also a $2000 LBA 150-450
for serious birding I think I should consider other options for
birding. Also considering the heavy weight lifting for 3-4 hours while
strolling around in the woods. Breaking both my wallet and my back.
Maybe a Superzoom like the Nikon Coolpix P950? I switched from analog
Pentax to digital on the Coolpix 950. Why not switch again to a 950 :)

Any list wisdom on superzooms which support RAW format?
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Re: PESO - Fence Shadow

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Very striking patterns and compelling composition!

If it were mine, I might crop it a bit to simplify the patterns and make it
a bit more minimalist, but it is quite effective as is.

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On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 11:58 AM Rick Womer  wrote:

> A March leftover: Sunlight shining through our back yard fence on a March
> afternoon:
>
> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2021/March-2021/Miscellany/i-vpMpxzK/A
>
> (K-5, DA 17-70)
>
> Comments always appreciated, from withering criticism to blush-inducing
> flattery.
>
> Rick
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PESO - Fence Shadow

[Rick Womer]

A March leftover: Sunlight shining through our back yard fence on a March 
afternoon:

https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2021/March-2021/Miscellany/i-vpMpxzK/A

(K-5, DA 17-70)

Comments always appreciated, from withering criticism to blush-inducing 
flattery. 

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Re: PESO x2: Fantail

[Paul Stenquist]

Very nice. You can easily boost the exposure when rendering.

Paul

> On Apr 3, 2021, at 7:19 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Great stuff, Dave. You seem to have sorted things out now. I'm sure Paul S 
> will approve.
> 
> Alan C
> 
>> On 03-Apr-21 12:01 PM, David Mann wrote:
>> While chasing the warbler this morning we had a couple of fantails visit.  
>> These are another one that rarely sits still, but they're quite a bit tamer. 
>>  They eat insects, mostly caught on-the-wing.
>> 
>> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1112/#peso
>> 
>> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo//#peso
>> 
>> These were both shot with the K5ii and FA*400mm f/5.6, handheld.  I didn't 
>> have enough light so the photos were underexposed by 1 stop or so.  The lens 
>> was wide open and I'm surprised (amazed, actually) at how well the body hit 
>> the focus in such low light.  And that it chose the right thing to focus on.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[Toine]

I mentioned the missing charger. :)

All prereviews rave about the viewfinder. The specs say 1.05x vs 0.95x for
current models. I dont see how that would be a major improvement. If the
viewfinder would be just like the MX it would make it a dream for tele.
I dont see much in the current 0.95x viewfinders and my optomotrist claims
i have 120% vision


On Sat, 3 Apr 2021, 17:27 Ralf R Radermacher,  wrote:

> Am 03.04.21 um 17:00 schrieb Alan C:
> > Sorry chaps, it's probably all my fault.
>
> Not to worry. Looks more like Bill is happy to have found something
> (i.e. you and me) to  get all worked up about.
>
> Ralf
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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 03.04.21 um 17:00 schrieb Alan C:

Sorry chaps, it's probably all my fault.


Not to worry. Looks more like Bill is happy to have found something
(i.e. you and me) to  get all worked up about.

Ralf

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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[Alan C]

Sorry chaps, it's probably all my fault. I didn't mean to be a red rag. 
I simply said that I was surprised an external charger wasn't included 
when you are already paying so much for the camera. Thank goodness it 
wasn't me who mentioned the lack of a hot-shoe cover.


Alan C

On 03-Apr-21 04:44 PM, Bill wrote:

On 4/3/2021 2:24 AM, mike wilson wrote:



On 03 April 2021 at 03:39 John  wrote:


Can't you charge the battery using the original K-3 or K-3 II 
chargers? Or for

that matter, since the K-1 uses the same battery, use that charger?

As long as the previous versions of the charger work with it, the 
lack of the

charger wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.


Except if you have to sell your existing camera to finance the 
new, you are less likely to sell/will command a lower price without 
the charger.


Dear God, we certainly do our very best to find non existent problems 
don't we?


If you need more than one battery for a day's shooting, then when you 
buy your spare battery, spend the (in my case Can$40.00) for a charger 
to go along with it.
If you don't need more than one battery per day of shooting, plug the 
camera in before you go to sleep and have a charged battery in the 
morning.


I really didn't realize this shit was rocket science.

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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[Bill]

On 4/3/2021 2:24 AM, mike wilson wrote:



On 03 April 2021 at 03:39 John  wrote:


Can't you charge the battery using the original K-3 or K-3 II chargers? Or for
that matter, since the K-1 uses the same battery, use that charger?

As long as the previous versions of the charger work with it, the lack of the
charger wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.


Except if you have to sell your existing camera to finance the new, you are 
less likely to sell/will command a lower price without the charger.


Dear God, we certainly do our very best to find non existent problems 
don't we?


If you need more than one battery for a day's shooting, then when you 
buy your spare battery, spend the (in my case Can$40.00) for a charger 
to go along with it.
If you don't need more than one battery per day of shooting, plug the 
camera in before you go to sleep and have a charged battery in the morning.


I really didn't realize this shit was rocket science.

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Re: Learning from my mistakes

[David J Brooks]

I hear ya about the bird speeds an a camera, but well done anyway

Dave


On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 12:13 AM Daniel J. Matyola 
wrote:

> Nice captures.  Seeing bald eagles is always exciting!
>
> We have nesting eagles even here in New Jersey.  There is an eagle cam on a
> nest just a few miles from our home:
>
> https://www.dukefarms.org/making-an-impact/eagle-cam/
>
> Dan Matyola
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>
>
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 2:51 PM Larry Colen  wrote:
>
> > After we buried my mom yesterday on my way to visit with the friend who
> > was like another daughter to Mom I saw what looked like blackbirds
> hassling
> > a vulture, which seemed really odd, then I realized that it was a bald
> > eagle.  I pulled over, grabbed the K-3 with a bigma and grabbed some
> > shots.  It was set at Av, ISO 100 f/10, bracketing 0 and -2 stops.
> Lesson
> > learned:  don’t photograph birds in flight locked at ISO 100.
> > In theory this would be a good use of user modes, though I could have
> just
> > gone to Tav at a higher shutter speed.
> >
> > On a larger scheme these aren’t great photos, but they are some of my
> best
> > bald eagle photos (especially in flight) so far.
> >
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157718833806563
> >
> > As an aside, it occurred to me that bald eagle would actually be a better
> > name for vultures than birds that look like Edgar Winter with wings.
> >
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Re: PESO: Tulipsasty blooms

[Daniel J. Matyola]

When they wilt, I will plat them at the edge of the woods.  The deer can
eat the blooms this year and whatever might grow up next year.  The trick
is keeping them out of our patio area and, to the extent possible, the
front and back yards.  T6hey really devastated my rhododendrons over this
past winter, as the weather made them desperate and also made it impossible
to reach all the plants to spray with repellent.

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On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 9:18 AM Alan C  wrote:

> Nice. You can throw the blooms over the fence when they are finished!
>
> Alan C
>
> On 03-Apr-21 03:02 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> > I love Tulips, but I am not able to grow any in our yard.  Our large
> local
> > herd of aggressive whitetail deer love them even more than I, and will
> jump
> > or crash through any fence to get at the tasty blooms.  So, I cheated,
> and
> > bought some at a local sore to use as a holiday dinner centerpiece.
> >
> > http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2021/4/3/tulips
> >
> > K-5 IIs, smc DA 50 mm F 1.8 on a tripod
> > Comments, criticisms and suggestions are invited and appreciated.
> >
> > Dan Matyola
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Re: PESO: Tulipsasty blooms

[Alan C]

Nice. You can throw the blooms over the fence when they are finished!

Alan C

On 03-Apr-21 03:02 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I love Tulips, but I am not able to grow any in our yard.  Our large local
herd of aggressive whitetail deer love them even more than I, and will jump
or crash through any fence to get at the tasty blooms.  So, I cheated, and
bought some at a local sore to use as a holiday dinner centerpiece.

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2021/4/3/tulips

K-5 IIs, smc DA 50 mm F 1.8 on a tripod
Comments, criticisms and suggestions are invited and appreciated.

Dan Matyola
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Re: PESO x2: Fantail

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nicely done!

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On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 6:01 AM David Mann  wrote:

> While chasing the warbler this morning we had a couple of fantails visit.
> These are another one that rarely sits still, but they're quite a bit
> tamer.  They eat insects, mostly caught on-the-wing.
>
> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1112/#peso
>
> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo//#peso
>
> These were both shot with the K5ii and FA*400mm f/5.6, handheld.  I didn't
> have enough light so the photos were underexposed by 1 stop or so.  The
> lens was wide open and I'm surprised (amazed, actually) at how well the
> body hit the focus in such low light.  And that it chose the right thing to
> focus on.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
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Re: An old Sears M42 preset 35mm lens

[Alan C]

Well done, Juan. If I'm not mistaken, Sears lenses were made by Ricoh 
for Sears Merchandising so it is not OT! (Soligor lenses were made by 
Tokina). I've seen some advertised in SA but wasn't tempted! Seems to be 
much like the original Takumar lenses in operation.


Alan C

On 02-Apr-21 11:07 PM, Juan Buhler wrote:

I suppose since this lens is M42 then it is on-topic enough to post here?
I found this lens on ebay for not too much money, and thought it was
interesting because I haven't seen many M42 preset lenses that weren't made
in the Soviet Union.

Super short, 2'34" video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgZP4iBRI6E

I have another short video about the FA35 queued to be posted next week.
I'm also open to suggestions, I have tons of lenses and it's hard to choose
which one to do next. What do you people think?

Some candidates:

K24/3.5
M24-35/3.5
Super Takumar 35/3.5
Super Takumar 28/3.5
Cheap/off brand 24/2.8 K mount (Marexar I think?)
Kiron 28/2 (I think this one has haze though!)

or even

Minolta 50mm macro
50mm Summilux with old dead fungus (this will actually be super interesting
I think!)
Industar 26 (50mm 2.8)
Jupiter 8 (50mm 2)
MIR-1B (37mm 2.8)

Yes I guess I do have a problem...

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PESO: Tulipsasty blooms

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I love Tulips, but I am not able to grow any in our yard.  Our large local
herd of aggressive whitetail deer love them even more than I, and will jump
or crash through any fence to get at the tasty blooms.  So, I cheated, and
bought some at a local sore to use as a holiday dinner centerpiece.

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2021/4/3/tulips

K-5 IIs, smc DA 50 mm F 1.8 on a tripod
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Dan Matyola
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Re: GESO Bob Hunter trials

[David J Brooks]

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 9:38 PM Rick Womer  wrote:

> …and I’m wondering about the tower in 1413 & 1414…
>

Rick.

The trail system is now on what used to be farm property so its an old
concrete grain silo

Dave

>
> Rick
>
> > On Apr 2, 2021, at 9:04 PM, John  wrote:
> >
> > I'm curious what the story is behind IGP1470?
> >
> > On 3/31/2021 12:28:49, David J Brooks wrote:
> >> York region, along with other border regions, are building quite the
> trail
> >> system of late. Our camera group, well 4 of us, went to Bob Hunter
> Trail in
> >> the Rouge river system Tuesday. Still very early landscapes but managed
> to
> >> eek out some decent shots
> >> Bob Hunter was a local environmental legion and this part of the system
> is
> >> named after him.
> >> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2021-bobhunter/album/index.html
> >> K-5 Sigma 17-70
> >> Dave
> >
> >
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Re: GESO Bob Hunter trials

[David J Brooks]

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 9:04 PM John  wrote:

> I'm curious what the story is behind IGP1470?
>
> John, so were we. We figured a hobbit is in midst of a reno and waiting on
a door delivery.

Dave

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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[mike wilson]

> On 03 April 2021 at 07:04 John Francis  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> The one that B have been showing for a while is at least metal, not plastic.
> I'm not sure whether the one on the German web page, which is apparently a
> special K3 one that is made to look a bit like a pentaprism housing, and has
> the word Pentax on it (albeit not inscribed in large, friendly letters ...)
> is metal or plastic.

Would a friendlier font help you keep tabs on it?  Would keeping tabs on it 
make you a better photographer?  Enquiring monds (both of them) need to know.

> 
> On Fri, Apr 02, 2021 at 11:02:03PM -0400, John wrote:
> > Yeah, but is it worth $50 if I'm just going to end up losing it like the
> > original stock hot-shoe cover?
> > 
> > On 4/1/2021 13:30:23, P. J. Alling wrote:
> > > I hate to say this but the optional hot shoe cover has been on B's web
> > > site for several years now.?? It is outrageously expensive for a piece
> > > of extruded plastic, but it's not new with the K-3III.
> > > 
> > > On 4/1/2021 1:01 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
> > > > Am 01.04.21 um 18:38 schrieb John Francis:
> > > > 
> > > > > Well, it is April 1st ...
> > > > 
> > > > Sure?
> > > > 
> > > > https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1568475-REG/pentax_31080_hot_shoe_cover.html
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > 
> > 
> > PS: I haven't lost the original hot-shoe covers. I took them off and put
> > them in my desk drawer so I wouldn't lose them.
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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[mike wilson]

Pentax lens caps seem to be rather expensive as well.  I remember one review of 
lens caps in general that headed the Pentax section with "Same plastic, twice 
the price" - and they were.

> On 03 April 2021 at 04:02 John  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yeah, but is it worth $50 if I'm just going to end up losing it like the 
> original stock hot-shoe cover?
> 
> On 4/1/2021 13:30:23, P. J. Alling wrote:
> > I hate to say this but the optional hot shoe cover has been on B's web 
> > site 
> > for several years now.  It is outrageously expensive for a piece of 
> > extruded 
> > plastic, but it's not new with the K-3III.
> > 
> > On 4/1/2021 1:01 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
> >> Am 01.04.21 um 18:38 schrieb John Francis:
> >>
> >>> Well, it is April 1st ...
> >>
> >> Sure?
> >>
> >> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1568475-REG/pentax_31080_hot_shoe_cover.html
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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[mike wilson]

> On 03 April 2021 at 03:39 John  wrote:
> 
> 
> Can't you charge the battery using the original K-3 or K-3 II chargers? Or 
> for 
> that matter, since the K-1 uses the same battery, use that charger?
> 
> As long as the previous versions of the charger work with it, the lack of the 
> charger wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.

Except if you have to sell your existing camera to finance the new, you are 
less likely to sell/will command a lower price without the charger.
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Re: PESO x2: Fantail

[Toine]

Great captures


On Sat, 3 Apr 2021 at 12:01, David Mann  wrote:
>
> While chasing the warbler this morning we had a couple of fantails visit.  
> These are another one that rarely sits still, but they're quite a bit tamer.  
> They eat insects, mostly caught on-the-wing.
>
> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1112/#peso
>
> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo//#peso
>
> These were both shot with the K5ii and FA*400mm f/5.6, handheld.  I didn't 
> have enough light so the photos were underexposed by 1 stop or so.  The lens 
> was wide open and I'm surprised (amazed, actually) at how well the body hit 
> the focus in such low light.  And that it chose the right thing to focus on.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
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Re: PESO: Another Grey Warbler

[Paul Stenquist]

Nice framing and focus. You can boost the shadow detail when rendering.

Paul

> On Apr 3, 2021, at 4:11 AM, David Mann  wrote:
> 
> My little feathered friend came back this morning so here's yet another bird 
> photo.
> 
> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1110/#peso
> 
> Pentax K5ii, FA*400mm f/5.6, ISO3200, 1/750 at f/11 handheld
> 
> On a technical note, I've tweaked my gallery to support hidpi images (at 
> least on individual photo pages).  Please let me know if you encounter any 
> problems.  I've updated the two pics I posted yesterday with hidpi images, 
> links below if you really want to see them again.
> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1109/#peso
> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1108/#peso
> 
> Cheers,
> Dave
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Re: PESO x2: Fantail

[ann sanfedele]

oh Dave that second one is terrific!  first one a nice little shot  but 
it disappears from memory once you see the second..  nice timing! nice 
everything


ann

On 4/3/2021 6:01 AM, David Mann wrote:

While chasing the warbler this morning we had a couple of fantails visit.  
These are another one that rarely sits still, but they're quite a bit tamer.  
They eat insects, mostly caught on-the-wing.

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1112/#peso

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo//#peso

These were both shot with the K5ii and FA*400mm f/5.6, handheld.  I didn't have 
enough light so the photos were underexposed by 1 stop or so.  The lens was 
wide open and I'm surprised (amazed, actually) at how well the body hit the 
focus in such low light.  And that it chose the right thing to focus on.

Cheers,
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Re: PESO x2: Fantail

[Alan C]

Great stuff, Dave. You seem to have sorted things out now. I'm sure Paul 
S will approve.


Alan C

On 03-Apr-21 12:01 PM, David Mann wrote:

While chasing the warbler this morning we had a couple of fantails visit.  
These are another one that rarely sits still, but they're quite a bit tamer.  
They eat insects, mostly caught on-the-wing.

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1112/#peso

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo//#peso

These were both shot with the K5ii and FA*400mm f/5.6, handheld.  I didn't have 
enough light so the photos were underexposed by 1 stop or so.  The lens was 
wide open and I'm surprised (amazed, actually) at how well the body hit the 
focus in such low light.  And that it chose the right thing to focus on.

Cheers,
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Re: An old Sears M42 preset 35mm lens

[Steve Cottrell]

On 2/4/21, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Super short, 2'34" video:
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgZP4iBRI6E

Much better! Love it. Just watch out for serif fonts as they are a bit harder 
to read but Americans seem to like them ;-)




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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[Henk Terhell]

I've discovered that with the K-1 on tripod the majority of my pictures 
are nowadays taken after composing in live view.
It is easier to select focus and has wider focus area. With the 
possibility to adjust the angle of the screen it is easy enough to avoid 
reflection of the screen.

And with focus stacking or HDR I use the remote control.
So I don't care much about the viewfinder except for pics of fast moving 
animals, but for which faster AF is of much more importance.


Henk

Op 2021-04-03 om 05:05 schreef John:
I do wonder how that better viewfinder is going to work with the touch 
screen display though.


On 4/2/2021 16:25:06, Mark C wrote:

On 3/31/2021 12:52 PM, Bill wrote:


The fixed LCD screen was planned from the get go. The camera is 
built around an apparently fantastic viewfinder.
I suspect Ricoh knows their market, and knows that their customer 
already has an external battery charger.


A reviewer on Peta Pixel was very impressed with the viewfinder and 
commented that developing it must of been a considerable effort. I 
have no idea what it takes to build a better finder, but it may be 
that Pentax is really serious about people wanting to use optical 
finders vs EVF's and decided to build the camera around this feature. 
Hopefully there is really a market segment motivated by super nice 
view finders. The camera does look impressive.


Mark

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Re: OT some of you already know..

[Toine]

In the Netherlands they halted AZ shots for everyone except 60-64 by
the GP. That's my group and the AZ shot was promised from February
1st. No date yet. Given all the bad news about AZ I would much prefer
one of the others. Absolutely no way to get any (other) brand unless
endorsed by the bureaucrats. Unused (prepared) shots are dumped in the
bin because rules are rules.  I heard you can get one in Bulgaria.
Feels like living behind the iron curtain or inside a Monty Python sketch...
I wonder what happens if I refuse the AZ shot. Probably nothing and
the only option left is hoping I'll survive the real infection.

On Sat, 3 Apr 2021 at 04:16, John  wrote:
>
> I've seen a couple of different reports on the AZ vaccine. One suggesting the
> risk of clots is linked to low blood platelet counts so recipients should 
> have a
> CBC/FBC blood test before receiving the AZ vaccine.
>
> I saw another report suggesting maybe not using the AZ vaccine for those under
> 45 years of age.
>
> I didn't look too closely at them because I'm older than that & because I'd
> already had the two Pfizer shots before I saw those news reports.
>
> But it seems like the AZ vaccine is "safe" if care is taken in which patients
> it's administered to.
>
>
> On 4/1/2021 09:57:45, Bill wrote:
> > On 4/1/2021 7:12 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
> >> 16 weeks?  should be closer to 2 to 5 weeks..  perhaps you misread?? glad 
> >> you
> >> are getting the first one soon.
> >
> > Nope, it will be several months between shots up here because they want to 
> > get
> > first shots to as many people as possible as quickly as possible. I'm OK 
> > with
> > this, what with living in the North American hot spot at the moment.
> >
> > I'm not sure where I'll be at, as the powers that be seem insistent on 
> > pulling
> > the AZ vaccine off the market.
> >
> > bill
> >
> >
> >>
> >> ann
> >>
> >> On 4/1/2021 8:37 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
> >>> Glad your better now Ann. Getting my first jab april 5th and second jabs
> >>> are supposed to be around 16 weeks after first one up here so i'll see. 
> >>> Not
> >>> sure what we will get but i hear the mass vaxx sites are using Pfizer of
> >>> Moderna
> >>>
> >>> Dave
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PESO x2: Fantail

[David Mann]

While chasing the warbler this morning we had a couple of fantails visit.  
These are another one that rarely sits still, but they're quite a bit tamer.  
They eat insects, mostly caught on-the-wing.

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1112/#peso

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo//#peso

These were both shot with the K5ii and FA*400mm f/5.6, handheld.  I didn't have 
enough light so the photos were underexposed by 1 stop or so.  The lens was 
wide open and I'm surprised (amazed, actually) at how well the body hit the 
focus in such low light.  And that it chose the right thing to focus on.

Cheers,
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PESO: Another Grey Warbler

[David Mann]

My little feathered friend came back this morning so here's yet another bird 
photo.

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1110/#peso

Pentax K5ii, FA*400mm f/5.6, ISO3200, 1/750 at f/11 handheld

On a technical note, I've tweaked my gallery to support hidpi images (at least 
on individual photo pages).  Please let me know if you encounter any problems.  
I've updated the two pics I posted yesterday with hidpi images, links below if 
you really want to see them again.
http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1109/#peso
http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1108/#peso

Cheers,
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Re: OT: Backroad Buildings photo book

[Bob Pdml]

On 3 Apr 2021, at 06:50, John  wrote:
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> [...]
> 
> I was lucky my family made a couple of road trips out to California (from NC) 
> while I was still at home and I got to see Route 66 in 1960 before I-40 
> replaced most of it.
> 
> We went again in 1964 and by then most of the trip was on Interstates. But 
> they hadn't completely replaced the old highways.
> 
> The 1964 trip was when the Ranger at The Petrified Forest directed my dad to 
> pull off "where they were building the new highway" (I-40) "and we could pick 
> up all the petrified wood we wanted" because it was outside of the National 
> Park.

Does that mean you can’t get your sticks on Route 66?

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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[John Francis]

For what I used to spend a lot of my time photographing, auto-focus began doing
better than I could manage around 25 years ago, which is why I bought a PZ-1p.
And after one too many times where I tripped the shutter just a little bit too
early, I want a camera that is ready to take the next shot as soon as possible.
I don't fret over much about my development as a photographer - I just want a
tool that helps me get the shot I want, especially in fast-changing situations.


On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 02:03:39AM -0400, John wrote:
> The camera autofocus & frame rates aren't what's holding back my development
> as a photographer.
> 
> On 4/3/2021 00:39:22, John Francis wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 02, 2021 at 10:39:07PM -0400, John wrote:
> > > 
> > > Plus, if I did need to replace my K-3, the K-3 III doesn't look like it
> > > would be the best choice. I'd probably be looking for a used K-1 or K-1 
> > > II.
> > 
> > If you are doing the type of photography wher the K-1 shines, then it's
> > probably the best body for you.  I shoot more at the longer focal lengths
> > than at the wide end (and find 16mm on a crop-factor body to be wide 
> > enough),
> > so for me the larger sensor of the K-1 isn't particularly tempting, 
> > especially
> > since the image quality of even my old K-5 sensor is hard to fault unless 
> > I'm
> > really pushing things.
> > 
> > What I'm looking for is better autofocus (and as fast a frame rate as 
> > possible
> > in the continuous shooting mode).  I'm waiting to see what the reviewers 
> > have
> > to say about the new autofocus system, but early reports seem promising.
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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[John Francis]

The one that B have been showing for a while is at least metal, not plastic.
I'm not sure whether the one on the German web page, which is apparently a
special K3 one that is made to look a bit like a pentaprism housing, and has
the word Pentax on it (albeit not inscribed in large, friendly letters ...)
is metal or plastic.

On Fri, Apr 02, 2021 at 11:02:03PM -0400, John wrote:
> Yeah, but is it worth $50 if I'm just going to end up losing it like the
> original stock hot-shoe cover?
> 
> On 4/1/2021 13:30:23, P. J. Alling wrote:
> > I hate to say this but the optional hot shoe cover has been on B's web
> > site for several years now.?? It is outrageously expensive for a piece
> > of extruded plastic, but it's not new with the K-3III.
> > 
> > On 4/1/2021 1:01 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
> > > Am 01.04.21 um 18:38 schrieb John Francis:
> > > 
> > > > Well, it is April 1st ...
> > > 
> > > Sure?
> > > 
> > > https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1568475-REG/pentax_31080_hot_shoe_cover.html
> > > 
> > > 
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> PS: I haven't lost the original hot-shoe covers. I took them off and put
> them in my desk drawer so I wouldn't lose them.
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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[John]

The camera autofocus & frame rates aren't what's holding back my development as 
a photographer.


On 4/3/2021 00:39:22, John Francis wrote:

On Fri, Apr 02, 2021 at 10:39:07PM -0400, John wrote:


Plus, if I did need to replace my K-3, the K-3 III doesn't look like it
would be the best choice. I'd probably be looking for a used K-1 or K-1 II.


If you are doing the type of photography wher the K-1 shines, then it's
probably the best body for you.  I shoot more at the longer focal lengths
than at the wide end (and find 16mm on a crop-factor body to be wide enough),
so for me the larger sensor of the K-1 isn't particularly tempting, especially
since the image quality of even my old K-5 sensor is hard to fault unless I'm
really pushing things.

What I'm looking for is better autofocus (and as fast a frame rate as possible
in the continuous shooting mode).  I'm waiting to see what the reviewers have
to say about the new autofocus system, but early reports seem promising.
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