Re: Pentax sighting

2024-01-02 Thread Stanley Halpin
Thanks for the link Paul. That was a good read. I did try to click through his 
17 images, after first 4-5  the next click caused a system restart on my Mac. 
But I saw enough to appreciate his work.

Stan



> On Dec 31, 2023, at 4:25 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
> 
> Why photographer Mike De Sisti shot film on a Pentax K1000 for the first time 
> in 20 years
> 
> https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/columnists/2023/12/29/what-i-learned-after-shooting-my-first-roll-of-film-in-over-20-years/7172617/
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Re: Cotty's Channel

2024-01-02 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 02.01.24 um 20:06 schrieb Steve Cottrell:
| New videos twice a month - have <>a look and if it's something you 
might be interested in, by all means do subscribe.


Just subscribed as #89 and will have a closer look later.

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Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2024-01-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I don't think it's odd at all. For whatever solution I've come up with to do 
almost anything since I've known you, you've come up with a solution which is 
almost always the exact opposite. LOL! 

I use LR to work the organization of file on my hard drive for me 
automatically, and use IPTC information to establish categories, much of it 
automatically embedded into the metadata on import. If I then need files 
grouped by category (ie: by customer, or by job, or by project), I can find all 
the categories I want and move the files into such named directories inside LR 
efficiently and quickly, retaining the date organization .. or not .. according 
to my needs. Absolutely all of my original image file manipulations are on 
external volumes too, without exception. I use ONE working drive as fundamental 
repository, and two archive drives to secure and back that up ... period. This 
way I always know where everything in the working set, and the archive sets, 
is, primarily  by date but also by subgroups in the file system as well as by 
metadata descriptors like keywords, camera type, etc.  

Constantly renaming and changing parts of the original file storage system 
externally is most likely why LR does what it does in your case. 

How you want to manage your workflow is your business, I know many different 
ways to do it. I do what I do because I find it most useful, outside of LR, to 
locate things by the dates I remember, not by whatever "category du jour" I 
dreamed up at the time I imported them. I also arranged this setup so that if I 
dumped LR tomorrow and moved to another image processing toolset, I could do so 
without any losses other than my image processing/rendering efforts on 
unfinished work … the IPTC metadata is readable by almost any good image 
management software, and I save that into the files every time I do an import. 

My goal in responding was to explore what MIGHT be the issue that you are 
running into, not to tell you how to run your workflow. I don't really care 
about that. 

G

> On Jan 2, 2024, at 10:30 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 2, 2024, at 6:19 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm. I have, at present, three physical volumes comprising the media that LR 
>> Classic 13.1 has imported original files from in that list in the Folders 
>> panel. They never change place on the Folders panel.
> 
> Oddly, you and I seem to have different workflows.  I import files into my 
> "photos_fresh" directory on my SSD.  I then organize them into topical 
> subdirectories when processing.  You aren't interested in the full directory 
> tree methodology, but this way if Lightroom ever goes away, I have a nice 
> logical way of finding things in whatever I use next.  
> 
> Once I have finished processing, or at least sorting, the files they get 
> copied onto long term storage, an external case with my entire catalog on a 
> couple of drives. And every so often, I do a "catchup", where I "export to 
> catalog" all of the files I have edited since my last catchup, and then 
> import those changes to my "everything" catalog.  
> 
> Since I mostly only use the external drives when I'm archiving files, or 
> occasionally reworking old files, I don't usually even have it plugged in or 
> connected to the trashcan, protecting it from anything that might go wrong 
> with the computer.
> 
>> 
>> The reason for this is probably because, when I set them up, I drilled down 
>> through the directory hierarchy on the volumes to the root of the photo 
>> storage directory trees and then told LR to "Hide Parent Directory" on all 
>> folder hierarchies above (or below, per your perspective) that point. So I 
>> don't see, in LR, all the other directories on the volumes; only the entire 
>> directory of original image files starting at its local root. Any other 
>> directory/file manipulations on these volumes is therefore invisible to LR 
>> Classic, and cannot reorder the placement of the volumes in the Folders 
>> listing. There's no need to see the entire directory tree structure of the 
>> import volumes, only the directory trees from which you have imported files, 
>> which should always have a single root.. that's my logic behind setting it 
>> up this way.
> 
> Hmm, interesting, it is convenient for me to know where certain directory 
> trees are.  Some years are on one of the external drives, other years on the 
> other. There are other branches as well.  I suppose that I could add some 
> meaningless directories "above" the ones I'm interested in, but even so I 
> don't believe I show all of the way to the root of each external drive
> 
>> 
>> That's my conjecture anyway. Try it. :D 
>> 
>> G
>> 
>>> On Jan 1, 2024, at 8:59 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 1, 2024, at 8:55 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
 
 
 I'm running Lightroom Classic 13.  Over on the left side there is a 
 "Folders" panel, with the highest level of hierarchy being the hard 
 

Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2024-01-02 Thread Larry Colen


> On Jan 2, 2024, at 11:21 AM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> My basic file system: Folders = -Master for values of  from 2002 to 
> 2024. Subfolders are  - 01Jan,  - 02Feb, etc. I use a similar 
> approach for image naming, renaming on import to mmdd-NNx.dng, 
> building onto the in-camera naming sequence preceded by a camera designator 
> such as K1a, K1b, 645Z...
> 
> Space permitting, current year and previous year reside on my internal drive. 
> Whenever I do a major import or editing session, I copy the -Master to a 
> -Copy x, Copy x+1, etc. folder on 1 or two hard drives. If I go on a 
> trip, current and prior year’s -Copy x+1 is copied to a 2 TB SSD to take 
> along, both for en route backups from the laptop, but also in case I want to 
> go back into something from a few months ago. Back home, I copy from the SSD 
> to my internal drive in the appropriate - month folder(s) and then in LR 
> I point at those and have LR Synch.

This is very close to my directory tree.  Long term is basically
Year/month/shoot

with shoot named yymmdd_mnemonic
Under the shoot directory I may split things out as convenient, by person being 
photographed, set of photos in a panorama, type of airplane, then individual 
airplane.  

There may be multiple "shoot" directories that all start off with the same 
date: 240102
Or there may be several days in the same shoot directory with a date 
arbitrarily chosen for the naming.

So, I basically import into ~/photos_fresh/shoot
Organize the shoot directory/directories (if I import from different cameras 
into different directories)
Do all of my processing, then I'd move the shoot directory tree: 
~/photos_fresh/240102_example
into its final resting place:
/mnt/photo_bb/2024a/2401/240102_example


> 
> When I take pictures around home, I import via LR directly to my internal 
> drive in the appropriate month’s directory.
> 
> For me, I found that using named folders (e.g., Birds, Water Falls, baseball, 
> …) led me down too many rabbit holes, and I keep my folders by date. All 
> other cataloging is done first via key wording on import, 

I started out doing something like that, but ran into the same rabbit holes 
that you did I'm sure. 

I now do a mixture of the two, the date is the primary organization, but the 
same "date" might have several mnemonic trees:
230712_march_afb/bombers/b25

> modified/extended key wording during review/editing, and then Catalogs for 
> gathering images of some category or another. Annual favorites, Selections 
> from November trip, Macro Flowers, … When I am working on a photo book, I 
> drop selected images into catalogs/sub-catalogs in my preliminary preparation 
> phase.

I also make use of catalogs and key wording.  

> 
> One exception to my rule about sticking to  folders: I do have a folder 
> on my internal drive labeled Current Exports. Basically temporary storage for 
> images to post as a PESO, GESO, on FB, or send in an email to friends. Such 
> images typically have been given a reasonably high star rating in LR. I can 
> easily delete or lose the Current Export images and re-locate them within LR 
> by doing a screen by ratings.

I also have an extensive methodology of rating which is beyond the scope of 
this discussion.  I do wish that I could more easily set things up so that a 
photo could have multiple ratings, either by myself and someone doing another 
pass, or for different goals, but that is a whole nuther kettle of worms.

> 
> In your work flow, you mention “moving directories” from one place to 
> another. Are you using the OS to do this? Or are you doing this within LR?

I have learned from painful experience to move the directories using lightroom. 
 It is in this process that lightroom expands, contracts, and moves around the 
hard drives in its folders panel


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Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2024-01-02 Thread Stanley Halpin
My basic file system: Folders = -Master for values of  from 2002 to 
2024. Subfolders are  - 01Jan,  - 02Feb, etc. I use a similar approach 
for image naming, renaming on import to mmdd-NNx.dng, building onto the 
in-camera naming sequence preceded by a camera designator such as K1a, K1b, 
645Z...

Space permitting, current year and previous year reside on my internal drive. 
Whenever I do a major import or editing session, I copy the -Master to a 
-Copy x, Copy x+1, etc. folder on 1 or two hard drives. If I go on a trip, 
current and prior year’s -Copy x+1 is copied to a 2 TB SSD to take along, 
both for en route backups from the laptop, but also in case I want to go back 
into something from a few months ago. Back home, I copy from the SSD to my 
internal drive in the appropriate - month folder(s) and then in LR I point 
at those and have LR Synch.

When I take pictures around home, I import via LR directly to my internal drive 
in the appropriate month’s directory.

For me, I found that using named folders (e.g., Birds, Water Falls, baseball, 
…) led me down too many rabbit holes, and I keep my folders by date. All other 
cataloging is done first via key wording on import, modified/extended key 
wording during review/editing, and then Catalogs for gathering images of some 
category or another. Annual favorites, Selections from November trip, Macro 
Flowers, … When I am working on a photo book, I drop selected images into 
catalogs/sub-catalogs in my preliminary preparation phase.

One exception to my rule about sticking to  folders: I do have a folder on 
my internal drive labeled Current Exports. Basically temporary storage for 
images to post as a PESO, GESO, on FB, or send in an email to friends. Such 
images typically have been given a reasonably high star rating in LR. I can 
easily delete or lose the Current Export images and re-locate them within LR by 
doing a screen by ratings.

In your work flow, you mention “moving directories” from one place to another. 
Are you using the OS to do this? Or are you doing this within LR?

Stan

> On Jan 2, 2024, at 1:34 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 2, 2024, at 8:17 AM, Stanley Halpin  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Like Godfrey, I have not seen this behavior in LR.
> 
> Do your files go directly to their final resting place?  Or do you have an 
> intermediate location on a fast drive for them?  It is when I move 
> directories from one drive to another that this happens.
> 
>> I just looked, I right-clicked on some of my Folder and Drive names in the 
>> list, played a bit with the options such as Hide this Parent or Show Parent 
>> Folder…
>> Those are possibly the settings that Godfrey suggested you might be looking 
>> for.
>> Stan
>> 
>>> On Jan 1, 2024, at 11:55 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm running Lightroom Classic 13.  Over on the left side there is a 
>>> "Folders" panel, with the highest level of hierarchy being the hard drives. 
>>> I've got three drives Mac SSD, photo_ba, and photo_bb.  The problem is that 
>>> whenever I change something on one of the drives, it's position in the 
>>> panel moves to the top. So, while I'm going through, cleaning up my 
>>> catalog, moving folders from the primary drive to the longer term storage, 
>>> the order of the drives in the panel keeps shifting around.  My google fu 
>>> is just not strong enough to figure out how to get it to JUST STOP THAT. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Cotty's Channel

2024-01-02 Thread Steve Cottrell
Hello Pentaxians

Apologies if I mentioned this here on the list previously…I don’t think I have, 
so in for a penny…

I’ve started a Youtube channel - Pentax content will be, ahem, very thin on the 
ground - but not impossible as I still have some Pentax lenses that I use for 
video occasionally, and I will feature them in an upcoming episode.

Anyway - new YouTube channel started yesterday. If you’re venturing into the 
realms of video, this could be for you. A mixture of 'director's commentary' 
versions of sailing features I've made with British sailor and broadcaster Tom 
Cunliffe, and 'how-to' videos to improve your filmmaking skills. 5 new videos 
dropped January 1st, and there is a short intro video.

New videos twice a month - have  <>a look and if it's something you might be 
interested in, by all means do subscribe.

https://www.youtube.com/@filmingandfettling

Cheers,

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Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2024-01-02 Thread Larry Colen


> On Jan 2, 2024, at 8:17 AM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> Like Godfrey, I have not seen this behavior in LR.

Do your files go directly to their final resting place?  Or do you have an 
intermediate location on a fast drive for them?  It is when I move directories 
from one drive to another that this happens.

> I just looked, I right-clicked on some of my Folder and Drive names in the 
> list, played a bit with the options such as Hide this Parent or Show Parent 
> Folder…
> Those are possibly the settings that Godfrey suggested you might be looking 
> for.
> Stan
> 
>> On Jan 1, 2024, at 11:55 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I'm running Lightroom Classic 13.  Over on the left side there is a 
>> "Folders" panel, with the highest level of hierarchy being the hard drives. 
>> I've got three drives Mac SSD, photo_ba, and photo_bb.  The problem is that 
>> whenever I change something on one of the drives, it's position in the panel 
>> moves to the top. So, while I'm going through, cleaning up my catalog, 
>> moving folders from the primary drive to the longer term storage, the order 
>> of the drives in the panel keeps shifting around.  My google fu is just not 
>> strong enough to figure out how to get it to JUST STOP THAT. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2024-01-02 Thread Larry Colen


> On Jan 2, 2024, at 6:19 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Hmm. I have, at present, three physical volumes comprising the media that LR 
> Classic 13.1 has imported original files from in that list in the Folders 
> panel. They never change place on the Folders panel.

Oddly, you and I seem to have different workflows.  I import files into my 
"photos_fresh" directory on my SSD.  I then organize them into topical 
subdirectories when processing.  You aren't interested in the full directory 
tree methodology, but this way if Lightroom ever goes away, I have a nice 
logical way of finding things in whatever I use next.  

Once I have finished processing, or at least sorting, the files they get copied 
onto long term storage, an external case with my entire catalog on a couple of 
drives. And every so often, I do a "catchup", where I "export to catalog" all 
of the files I have edited since my last catchup, and then import those changes 
to my "everything" catalog.  

Since I mostly only use the external drives when I'm archiving files, or 
occasionally reworking old files, I don't usually even have it plugged in or 
connected to the trashcan, protecting it from anything that might go wrong with 
the computer.

> 
> The reason for this is probably because, when I set them up, I drilled down 
> through the directory hierarchy on the volumes to the root of the photo 
> storage directory trees and then told LR to "Hide Parent Directory" on all 
> folder hierarchies above (or below, per your perspective) that point. So I 
> don't see, in LR, all the other directories on the volumes; only the entire 
> directory of original image files starting at its local root. Any other 
> directory/file manipulations on these volumes is therefore invisible to LR 
> Classic, and cannot reorder the placement of the volumes in the Folders 
> listing. There's no need to see the entire directory tree structure of the 
> import volumes, only the directory trees from which you have imported files, 
> which should always have a single root.. that's my logic behind setting it up 
> this way. 

Hmm, interesting, it is convenient for me to know where certain directory trees 
are.  Some years are on one of the external drives, other years on the other. 
There are other branches as well.  I suppose that I could add some meaningless 
directories "above" the ones I'm interested in, but even so I don't believe I 
show all of the way to the root of each external drive

> 
> That's my conjecture anyway. Try it. :D 
> 
> G
> 
>> On Jan 1, 2024, at 8:59 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 1, 2024, at 8:55 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm running Lightroom Classic 13.  Over on the left side there is a 
>>> "Folders" panel, with the highest level of hierarchy being the hard drives. 
>>> I've got three drives Mac SSD, photo_ba, and photo_bb.  The problem is that 
>>> whenever I change something on one of the drives, it's position in the 
>>> panel moves to the top. So, while I'm going through, cleaning up my 
>>> catalog, moving folders from the primary drive to the longer term storage, 
>>> the order of the drives in the panel keeps shifting around.  My google fu 
>>> is just not strong enough to figure out how to get it to JUST STOP THAT.
>> 
>> Edit, it's even worse than that, it will also collapse the display of a 
>> drive when it makes a change. So things keep changing out from under me, and 
>> moving around, often when I'm trying to move a folder to them.
>> 
>> Arrrgg!  Why do they insist on having software "help" me, when I don't 
>> ask it to?
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Re: Amsterdam and Bruges!

2024-01-02 Thread Stanley Halpin
Ghent is also a nice place to visit in that region.

> On Dec 31, 2023, at 4:57 PM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 31.12.23 um 19:30 schrieb Mark Roberts:
>> 3 days. We have time before and after in Amsterdam.
> 
> You might want to spend one day in Bruges and then get down to Zeebrugge and 
> catch the famous coastal tramway, actually the world's longest tram line. 
> Take it towards De Panne and step off at De Haan and Ostend. Much nicer 
> places than the tourist-overrun Bruges.
> 
> Have a look at my fotocommunity account, linked below. Lots of photos of the 
> tram and the area.
> 
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Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2024-01-02 Thread Stanley Halpin
Like Godfrey, I have not seen this behavior in LR.
I just looked, I right-clicked on some of my Folder and Drive names in the 
list, played a bit with the options such as Hide this Parent or Show Parent 
Folder…
Those are possibly the settings that Godfrey suggested you might be looking for.
Stan

> On Jan 1, 2024, at 11:55 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm running Lightroom Classic 13.  Over on the left side there is a "Folders" 
> panel, with the highest level of hierarchy being the hard drives. I've got 
> three drives Mac SSD, photo_ba, and photo_bb.  The problem is that whenever I 
> change something on one of the drives, it's position in the panel moves to 
> the top. So, while I'm going through, cleaning up my catalog, moving folders 
> from the primary drive to the longer term storage, the order of the drives in 
> the panel keeps shifting around.  My google fu is just not strong enough to 
> figure out how to get it to JUST STOP THAT. 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2024-01-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Oh yes: I also have LR set to display only the directory name, not the entire 
directory path, in the Folders panel. That might be affecting dynamic ordering 
as well. 

I doubt this problem has anything to do with an engineering decision trying to 
"help you". It's probably just a consequence of the way LR parses the directory 
names and orders the tree dynamically. When you make changes that affect the 
whole tree, it changes the parsing and display calculations; the ordering 
likely bubbles up the most recent changes to the top of the list as a side 
effect. 

G


> On Jan 2, 2024, at 6:19 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Hmm. I have, at present, three physical volumes comprising the media that LR 
> Classic 13.1 has imported original files from in that list in the Folders 
> panel. They never change place on the Folders panel.
> 
> The reason for this is probably because, when I set them up, I drilled down 
> through the directory hierarchy on the volumes to the root of the photo 
> storage directory trees and then told LR to "Hide Parent Directory" on all 
> folder hierarchies above (or below, per your perspective) that point. So I 
> don't see, in LR, all the other directories on the volumes; only the entire 
> directory of original image files starting at its local root. Any other 
> directory/file manipulations on these volumes is therefore invisible to LR 
> Classic, and cannot reorder the placement of the volumes in the Folders 
> listing. There's no need to see the entire directory tree structure of the 
> import volumes, only the directory trees from which you have imported files, 
> which should always have a single root.. that's my logic behind setting it up 
> this way. 
> 
> That's my conjecture anyway. Try it. :D 
> 
> G
> 
>> On Jan 1, 2024, at 8:59 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 1, 2024, at 8:55 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm running Lightroom Classic 13.  Over on the left side there is a 
>>> "Folders" panel, with the highest level of hierarchy being the hard drives. 
>>> I've got three drives Mac SSD, photo_ba, and photo_bb.  The problem is that 
>>> whenever I change something on one of the drives, it's position in the 
>>> panel moves to the top. So, while I'm going through, cleaning up my 
>>> catalog, moving folders from the primary drive to the longer term storage, 
>>> the order of the drives in the panel keeps shifting around.  My google fu 
>>> is just not strong enough to figure out how to get it to JUST STOP THAT.
>> 
>> Edit, it's even worse than that, it will also collapse the display of a 
>> drive when it makes a change. So things keep changing out from under me, and 
>> moving around, often when I'm trying to move a folder to them.
>> 
>> Arrrgg!  Why do they insist on having software "help" me, when I don't 
>> ask it to?
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Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2024-01-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Hmm. I have, at present, three physical volumes comprising the media that LR 
Classic 13.1 has imported original files from in that list in the Folders 
panel. They never change place on the Folders panel.

The reason for this is probably because, when I set them up, I drilled down 
through the directory hierarchy on the volumes to the root of the photo storage 
directory trees and then told LR to "Hide Parent Directory" on all folder 
hierarchies above (or below, per your perspective) that point. So I don't see, 
in LR, all the other directories on the volumes; only the entire directory of 
original image files starting at its local root. Any other directory/file 
manipulations on these volumes is therefore invisible to LR Classic, and cannot 
reorder the placement of the volumes in the Folders listing. There's no need to 
see the entire directory tree structure of the import volumes, only the 
directory trees from which you have imported files, which should always have a 
single root.. that's my logic behind setting it up this way. 

That's my conjecture anyway. Try it. :D 

G

> On Jan 1, 2024, at 8:59 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 1, 2024, at 8:55 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I'm running Lightroom Classic 13.  Over on the left side there is a 
>> "Folders" panel, with the highest level of hierarchy being the hard drives. 
>> I've got three drives Mac SSD, photo_ba, and photo_bb.  The problem is that 
>> whenever I change something on one of the drives, it's position in the panel 
>> moves to the top. So, while I'm going through, cleaning up my catalog, 
>> moving folders from the primary drive to the longer term storage, the order 
>> of the drives in the panel keeps shifting around.  My google fu is just not 
>> strong enough to figure out how to get it to JUST STOP THAT.
> 
> Edit, it's even worse than that, it will also collapse the display of a drive 
> when it makes a change. So things keep changing out from under me, and moving 
> around, often when I'm trying to move a folder to them.
> 
> Arrrgg!  Why do they insist on having software "help" me, when I don't 
> ask it to?
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Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2024-01-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote:

>Why do they insist on having software "help" me, when I don't ask it to?

Man, that's the perennial question of software, isn't it?
 
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