RE: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource
When one previews the picture in the on-camera screen, you will notice that the camera apparently loads a small image first. Then, if you keep that image in the monitor for a few seconds, it is substituted with a larger one. You can see the effect when you call up a preview of a shot with a detailed pattern such as ripples on water - after several seconds you will see a noticeable shift in the pattern when the second (presmably larger image suitable for zooming into) is loaded and substituted. Just my personal observation. -Original Message- From: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31-Mar-04 20:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New *ist D review - Imaging Resource On 31 Mar 2004 at 22:06, William Robb wrote: I thought RAW files were kinda fixed size. I don't know if you recall but John did mentioned a few weeks back that they also include an embedded jpg file. From my experience they vary in size from around 12,750kB to 14,500kB. Several JPEG images, actually. So far I've found a 160 x 120 thumbnail, a 640 x 480 image that's presumably used in Photo Browser, and a full- size (3008 x 2008) version. I *think* that's all ...
FS: FA* 24mm f/2.0
The lens itself is in excellent condition; the hood has moderate wear from being carried in the bag with the other stuff. Can send pics if anyone's interested. Price? Well, make an offer. It's just sitting there, so I am inclined to sell for the low side of fair value. Please email privately for further info. Cheers, Bucky - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
RE: *ist D Photos
No, he's right. There are at least three buggered pixels that show up in the same place in the frame regardless of orientation. You should check it out. -- Ask not at whom the Chimp smirks - he smirks at you. www.smirkingchimp.com www.gregpalast.com www.monbiot.com -Original Message- From: Dr. Shaun Canning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12-Mar-04 22:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: *ist D Photos Hi Gonz, The tandem dragon fly's was a snap shot as they flew past me about 6 feet away. Amazingly, the FA 100mm macro fastened onto them quick enough to get that shot. It's not 100% sharp, but not bad for a snap. As for the stuck pixels, I think it's more a case of the water beneath the dragon fly's creating catch lights or hot spots Gonz. There is nothing wrong with the sensor, as far as I can tell. Thanks anyway for the compliments though. Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au -Original Message- From: Gonz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2004 2:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist D Photos I'm sorry, in my haste to warn you about the stuck pixels, I forgot to say that the pics are really nice. I especially like the shot of the tandem-flys, how did you manage to get that shot!!! rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi gang, Here are the results of my first foray into the bush with an *ist D. all of the shots were taken with the *ist D, battery grip, FA 100mm macro. All were handheld. Photoshop work was limited to sharpening and adjusting the levels a bit. The files are all in the 1-3 mb range, so be warned, they'll take a while to come down the pipe via a 56k modem. None of them are resized. http://www.heritageservices.com.au/Pentax%20ist%20D%20Photos/Web% 20Gallery/i ndex.htm Tell me what you think? Cheers Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
X-Ray machines and *ist-D
Any potential damage to a digital sensor as in the *ist-D from airport X-ray machines? I assume not, but would rather be sure. After all, someone here has demonstrated permanent change in the sensor from exposure to the sun's image. TIA, Mike - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
RE: Raw for *istD
Well, it's not so much an update as a replacement. My point is that the RAW convertor could probably be provided just as easily to work with 7.0, but that Adobe has decided that anyone with a digital camera who actually is serious enough to want to work with a RAW convertor probably will kick out the bucks for CS. Hence no RAW update for 7.0. Simple cash grab. -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13-Feb-04 00:40 To: pentax list Subject: RE: Raw for *istD Note that the Camera RAW update is an update, and should only work by updating the Camera RAW plugin in PS CS (8). Before CS came along, there was a Camera RAW converter plugin available from Adobe for 99 bucks on their website. This is now academic and has been removed. This plugin would only work with PS 7.0.1, and not AFAIK with 7.0 - is this info of any help? On 13/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: It doesn't work with 7.0 either, I'm sure because of a conscious decision on Adobe's part, rather than any inherent incompatibility with the program. -- Ask not at whom the Chimp smirks - he smirks at you. www.smirkingchimp.com www.gregpalast.com www.monbiot.com -Original Message- From: Stan Halpin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12-Feb-04 19:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Raw for *istD It does NOT work with Elements 2.0 (on a Mac). I get a message: The RAW Plugin is not compatible with this version of Photoshop Elements. Stan Bill Owens wrote: The download page shows it under PS CS. Anybody know if it will work in 7.0? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Pentax DA 16-45 mm Lens
I've never used the RTF flash on any body I've ever had. I find them worse than useless Quoting Jan van Wijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 17:58:53 + (GMT), Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: It was mentioned on the list that the lens vignettes with the built-in flash from 16-28. Out of curiosity, does the flash indicator in the viewfinder flicker in these focal lengths to warn you, as it does on the MZ-5n with the F28-80 (for example), or does the flash switch off, like in the SFXn? I just tested that, took the hood off, and used the flash against an almost even white wall. It does severely vignette at 16mm and the effect is gone at about 28... The camara does NOT warn you at all and happily flashes ... It is quite visible on the preview though after the shot though :-) Glad I have the AF-360 FGZ, which is a joy to use with the *ISTD! Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: photographer arrested
Not having a permit for what? Did they impute the whole offence to him because he was engaged in a common enterprise or something? it seems rather bizarre to me. Quoting David Miers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just finished watching a bit on Real TV (Spike TV) about a guy who jumped off of the St Louis arch with a parachute and lived to run away from the police. His friend, the photographer was not so lucky and was arrested and convicted for not having a permit. Supposedly he received a nifty fine and probation. - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
RE: Digital Photography
Q.E.D. -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 3-Feb-04 22:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Digital Photography Light has soul?? Clams got hands WW
RE: OT: North Americans
Understood. Diversity of opinion can be quite threatening. -Original Message- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 4-Feb-04 17:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: North Americans Since this is becoming a political thread, and I am getting rather hot under the collar, I am going to kill file it.
Re: * ist Digital Question
There's a chain of fabric stores here in Canada called Fanny's Fabrics. Laugh it up. Quoting mapson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: At 11:29 PM 3/02/2004 +1000, you wrote: This is too funny to me - in Australia, what we refer to as a fanny is in fact only found only on a lady and is the FRONT rather than the BACK of them, iykwim? We here, call what you are referring to, a BUM! lol AND rather than fanny pack, it is a bum bag... Interesting topic! Recently a friend asked me what the origin of the word fanny was. I didn't know so I looked up in the dictionary. I was surprised to ind out that in there it said it can also mean buttocks. Never heard it used that way ;-( (*)o(*) Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
RE: Digital Photography
Don't worry about it, Rob. It's pretentious, self-important drivel spoken entirely in Blowhardese. -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 3-Feb-04 18:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Digital Photography I don't understand why there seems to be so many comments on the list suggesting that shooting digital cameras will likely not strengthen our skills as photographers?
RE: Digital Photography
No, sorry you are WRONG WRONG WRONG. Digital cameras filter the soul right out of the light. PERIOD. -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 3-Feb-04 21:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Digital Photography Photography isn't technical data, it is how light reflects off of objects, it is shadows, and colours, and shapes. Knowing what light does is the real mastery of photography. What light does has nothing to do with cameras, really.
RE: Feb PUG
In the rain gets my vote as well. A quiet beauty permeates much of Gianfranco's work. This, coupled with a lack of pretension on the part of the photographer, yeilds an emotional impact that you just don't see in a lot of shooting. I also confess that I found annsan's picture most striking - the underexposure works to its advantage, and I almost believed they were real horses in there. Quoting Henk Terhell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My next favourite is In the rain from Gianfranco Irlanda. And so on... - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: Încredible eagle shot!!!
Cute ;-) Quoting Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.pbase.com/image/25524341 Couldn't imagine better composition and level of details ;- -- Best Regards Sylwek - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: Încredible eagle shot!!!
Yes, Sylwek, your picture did not Draw The Viewer In. It exhibited a Disconnect. It did not render adequately the Subtle Interplay Of Light And Shadow. It did not Tell A Story. You obviously did not Have The Entire Scene Completed In Your Head Before You Even Picked Up The Camera. HAR. Quoting Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Why waste our time with such crap ... Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: http://www.pbase.com/image/25524341 Couldn't imagine better composition and level of details ;- -- Best Regards Sylwek - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: DVD Question
Quoting Len Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can DVDs be written to several times (multi-session) as CDs can? Len * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 Yes. After you've done everything you want to do with the DVD, then you close the disc just like CD-ROM. - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: As usual: photo advise sought
Quoting graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [SNIP] One of the interesting things I have seen, and the interview with Helmut Newton that Lasse posted a link to seems to show this, is the best photographers do not seem to think they are all that good. Certainly they'd never claim that a post to a mailing list was an advanced photography course. - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: As usual: photo advise sought
When I first lived in Saskatchewan, stores were closed on Monday as well as on Sunday. What a bizarre policy THAT was, especially moving there from Montreal. Obligatory Pentax remark: I knew a guy that worked at Woolco Northgate in the '70s and early '80s (long before it was sold to Sauron) who used to write up K1000 invoices in advance because they flew out the door so fast. Quoting William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In Saskatchewan, I am pretty sure they have not repealed the post Prohibition law forbidding photography in a licensed establishment. William Robb - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
For Sale: FA 24-90 f/3.5-4.5
I have just bought the FA*28-70 f/2.8 and so the FA 24-90 f/3.5-4.5 has become a bit superfluous. I bought it from KEH used a couple of months ago - it's in excellent condition. Naturally it includes original caps and the proprietary hood. It's a great lens. I paid US$349. I'd like to get close to that, but of course please feel free to make a reasonable offer. Interested parties, please let me know by e-mail. I'll ship anywhere in the world (from Vancouver), but shipping overseas can get pricy, so please take that into account. Cheers, Mike
Re: rechargeable NiMH batteries, ist-D and last night
I have never experienced such a problem - it must be dependent on the camera. I've had very good battery life so far. The batt. grip rocks, AFAIAC. Quoting Dr. Heiko Hamann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Did you use the battery grip? There seems to be some strange behaviour when using NiMH and the grip. The camera tells you that the batteries are empty, but when you remove the batteries from the grip, then the *istD works fine. I don't know the reaosn, but it is under investigation ;-). Cheers, Heiko - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: Sensor types longevity
Near the top-right? Quoting Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here's a quick snap that shows the problem: http://www.markcassino.com/temp/DSCN5754.jpg - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
RE: Used DSLR prices
Hi Boris, All of what you say is true, but the fact remains that the original poster was talking about a given model of DSLR being rendered *obsolete*, not merely somewhat less attractive, by new models. His point was that DSLRs are essentially throwaway cameras because of the rapid march of technology, and hence the purchaser shouldn't worry about build quality. -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13-Jan-04 23:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Used DSLR prices [some stuff snipped] Now, notice, I haven't been talking of anything that belongs to digital only. All of the above is valid for film cameras... And unfortunately, it *is* software. Hence it requires more memory, faster processors, better programmers *duh!*, and so on... Naturally, none of these will change the scene you're shooting or your potential ability to click the shutter at the right time with the right speed at the right aperture for the right film/sensor.
Re: Used DSLR prices
Tom, I agree with you in certain respects. In particular, I agree that DSLRs will not last forever, and will probably not have the lifespan of, say, an MX or your Crown Graphic. My point (and the one that Mr. Desjardins is also making, I think) is that if you look at the sole tangible product of a camera - a picture - there is a certain level of quality, a combination of objective and subjective factors, that, once reached, will not go away until the camera fails utterly. This is the issue which JCO raised and with which I quarrel - takes the position that build quality is irrelevant for a digital camera because they have the approximate lifespan of a nematode, something I simply reject. I expect my *istD to last me for many years, first as a primary body, perhaps later as a back-up. As someone else pointed out, new technology is nice to use, which is why I kept Z1ps as well as LXs on the go at the same time. If Pentax brings out a new DSLR with substantially improved image quality (nothing else would be enough to coax me), I'll probably buy it. begin really OT editorial part--- I'm still a little miffed at Pentax for being so slow - I bought a PS because I got tired of waiting for Pentax to get their shit together and give me a digital product that I could use my lenses with. The PS produces amazing pictures, no doubt about it, but the motor skills involved in getting the most out of it are entirely different and I found that I had to alter my shooting habits substantially to get good results. Also, I can't seem to think photographically without me eye to a proper eyecup - looking at a screen doesn't seem to work well for me. Add to that the fact that you're stuck with a narrow range of focal lengths, and it just doesn't tally to a good tool for my needs. It's not that I didn't like film, but that I simply have not got the time anymore to shoot, process, scan, catalogue and photoshop slides, with the result that my shooting trailed off to a trickle in the several months leading up to the *ist-D's release. Digital fits my needs and my time constraints so much better that I am willing to out up with the difficulties - for me, they are far outweighed by the benefits. If Pentax had waited much longer, you'd have seen a whack of Pentax FA* glass for sale on eBay and I'd be gone to Canon. Quoting graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You are aware that you are talking to a guy whose favorite picture taker is a 50+ year old Pacemaker Crown Graphic, right? OTOH you are right, the problem with using the old laptop is it won't run newer software. But that is analogic to using an old film camera for which film is no longer available such as a 116 Kodak folder. So they do compare. - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: Used DSLR prices
Quoting John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: While not disagreeing with your overall conclusion, there are times when I miss the LCD viewfinder of my PowerShot G1 - trying to take low-eyepoint shots with the *ist-D means I have to lie flat on the ground. Sometimes this is merely inconvenient; other time's it's effectively impossible. A tilt-and-swivel LCD makes things a lot easier. It also works well when I want to put the camera somewhere where there isn't room for me to stand behind it, or for over-the-head shots, etc., etc. True enough - swiveling screens are a big plus in certain situations. My friend has a G2, and he can even shoot behind him for candids that catch strangers unawares and often give quite beautiful results. - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: DSLR/PC plateau?
Quoting Chaso DeChaso [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think the above analysis is overly reliant on the idea of the job as equivalency to 35mm (or Med Format) traditional film photography - equivalency in a variety of ways including not only resolution and such things. [predictions snipped] You may be right, but these innovations will render obsolete ALL earlier cameras to the same degree - so-called conventional digital cameras would be no more or less obsolete than film bodies in the circumstances you describe. - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
RE: Used DSLR prices
Why should build quality *not* be important? The shelf life, as you call it, by which I presume you mean useful life, is as long as the build quality allows it to be. Simply because there's something out there that is considered more modern technology doesn't mean that an existing camera has outlived its usefulness. The *ist-D will continue to produce images of like quality for as long as it continues to function. Better built cameras take more abuse and continue to function longer. Simple, really. Quoting J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Since all DSLRs so far have had a short shelf life due to technical innovations, could someone please explain to me why build quality is important? JCO - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: Mobile Card Reader and Disk
Format Seriously, though, that depends on your equipment. Some of the Lexar cards come with readers, so that's pretty cheap. The bad part is that only the pricy Lexar ccards come with the readers, and only Lexar cards work with the reader. However, I got a cheap little generic reader that does CF, SD, MS and XD cards for about $35 - that seems pretty cheap to me. Quoting Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Guys What's the best/cheepest way to empty your memory cards on the go? Alle the best Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 12. januar 2004 19:42 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Used DSLR prices - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dealers are flogging off the Sigma SD-9 brand new for not much more than that (anybody actually ever seen one of these??) Seen and touched, but not used. Back in the day, I was about to switch brands to Sigma because they offered a ton of features in their SLRs for a good price. I'm glad I didn't because I never would have met you clowns! Christian Not flogging off for the record... - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: Mobile Card Reader and Disk
I just realized I totally misapprehended your meaning. DUH. Quoting myself: Format Seriously, though, that depends on your equipment. Some of the Lexar cards come with readers, so that's pretty cheap. The bad part is that only the pricy Lexar ccards come with the readers, and only Lexar cards work with the reader. - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: Unusual subjects to photograph.
Tee hee. Hell, there's enough excess energy there to sell some of it to Colly- fohhnya if they need it. Quoting William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Those lights are powered by turbines at the back of the building. Hot air, directed from the Legilative chamber to the turbines provides the motive power. William Robb - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
RE: Rain Picture
You can. -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 9-Jan-04 16:18 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Rain Picture On 9/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Just a quick grab shot taken earlier today ... comments welcome http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/paper.html Cracking great shot. Love it. I wish I could do street as good as you and Frank T.
RE: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
I agree. You might consider prefacing the subject line of anything that is film-only with FILM: Then you can filter out anything else. -Original Message- From: Dr E D F Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10-Jan-04 04:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? I've been off the list for a while because I became tired of the digital exchanges. Now I see that at least one other person is more interested in film cameras than the Pentax *ist D. If all posts had something in the subject line to identify them it would be easy to make rules for sorting things out. Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery See New Pages 'The Cement Company from HELL!' Updated: August 15, 2003 Oh my God! They've killed Teddy! - Original Message - From: Len Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 2:00 PM Subject: RE: Is there an analog only Pentax list? The I.P. address of my, your, everybody's console, i.e., home. Len * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 -Original Message- From: Jim Apilado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 12:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? What is 127.0.0.1? Jim A.
Re: *ist D: hooray!
Bloody hell. Don't tell me i need to clear another enablement with my Beloved Wife! Quoting Dag T [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think the 16-45 was scheduled today or something like that... DagT På 8. jan. 2004 kl. 16.20 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ah, yes. When is this firmware update due to appear? Quoting Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Keep watching Pentax websites :-) Sorry, I cannot tell more, so please don't ask. Dario Bonazza - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: Two Things That P***ed Me Off Today!
Bob, that's a nice shot, too. I'd be interested in knowing what lens you used for that - there is a remarkable amount of fall-off. Quoting Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I've sort of been collecting photos of people and their bikes over the last while, [...] http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2036662 And, of course, when I get the 8x10 back today, I notice that her expression is wonderful, alright, but he has his eyes closed!! Damn it! I don't think it suffers from his eyes being closed. It's a very nice shot, and nice moment captured. I collect photos in themes too, but I hadn't thought of bikes. Good idea, thanks. I'll steal it. I do have a couple of nice bike shots already. Here's one from the dockside in Stone Town, Zanzibar: http://www.web-options.com/Zanzibike.jpg Please ignore the blobs - that slide needs cleaning. -- Cheers, Bob - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
RE: Humble PUG Review
Oh, yeah - Frank, I keep forgetting you're a former ex-person (this is what my contracts professor called lawyers). Didja hear about the Vancouver cops who recently took a bunch of lippy sreet kids out to Stanely Park in the middle of the night so they could beat the crap out of them undisturbed by prying eyes? One of their brethren ratted them out. People or pigs? -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 6-Jan-04 18:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Humble PUG Review Now your talking like a defense lawyer... vbg -frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Humble PUG Review Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 16:21:39 -0800 And me, the former molecular biologist, thinking, animals is animals. Whether You think of them as pigs or people, cops are undeniably animals. _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/photospgmarket=en-caRU=http%3 a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
OT: Petty dishonesty (Was: Humble PUG Review)
The reason you don't get it is the reason you'll never be fired over petty dishonesty. -- Ask not at whom the Chimp smirks - he smirks at you. www.smirkingchimp.com www.gregpalast.com www.monbiot.com -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 7-Jan-04 20:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Humble PUG Review Gets caught, gets fired. For a stupid thousand dollar laptop. I don't get it. William Robb
Marginally OT: Re: The Toughest Pentax
I noticed something recently as I perused a local camera place over the holidays - their used AF body section is entirely dominated by Pentax MZ series bodies (what the Yanks call ZX bodies - probably 20 or so of them), especially the MZ-M and MZ-10 models. It made me wonder why. I had an MZ-5n for a while, and I liked it well enough. Certainly it had more toys than most people would ever use, and with the battery grip it was nice to handle and cheal on batteries too. I wonder what people are trading to - there never seems to be a corresponding number of AF normal lenses or those cheap consumer zooms that tend to be sold with these bodies, so I presume that people are just moving to different Pentax bodies, but I can't prove that. Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What does NOT inspire me as a robust camera is my ZX-5n. Ergonomically, it's my favourite camera, but I've had troubles major and minor with it. - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: Re[2]: Flash photography and *istD
I have noticed that mine seems to expose differently depending on aperture - from a distance of about ten feet, I used the FA* 24 f/2 and shot at a painting in my bedroom. The smaller apertures showed a marked difference in exposure as compared to the bigger ones. This is using the AF500FTZ. I rarely use flash, so I did not follow up on this much, except to form the impression that the firmware is probably defective. I did send a comment/complaint to Pentax Cnaada, with so far zero response. Quoting Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Heiko, Thanks for the information. Certainly something for me to check out. My own observations are thus: AF360FGZ seems to slighly underexpose - sometimes when vertical shooting with flash mounted in hotshoe it underexposes by quite a bit. AF400T seems to overexpose by at least a stop. These are with ISO set to 200. I'll have to try 400 and see what happens. Again, thanks for the info. Bruce Tuesday, January 6, 2004, 2:32:00 AM, you wrote: HH Hi Bruce, HH on 05 Jan 04 you wrote in pentax.list: Certainly an area that I am most interested in. I am not shooting with the AF500FTZ. I have the AF360FGZ and 2 AF400T's and 1 AF280T. Could you be a bit more specific about what your results are like? HH There's a German thread on incorrect flash exposures at HH http://www.digitalfotonetz.de/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4997highlight= HH A source at Pentax Germany has explained that there exists a problem HH with the TTL-metering (I only repeat some statements of the mentioned HH link): The TTL-sensor measures the light that is reflected from the HH CCD's surface. But it seemes, that the reflection of the CCD differs HH depending on the chosen ISO setting. The exposure will be correct only HH at ISO400 as the development and testing of the TTL-measurement was HH apparently made at ISO400, only. HH At ISO settings below 400 the camera will under-expose, at setting above HH 400 it will over-expose. HH This problem can probably not be solved by a firmware update as there is HH no upgradeble TTL-software but some kind of hardware solution. The HH problem does not exist if you use P-TTL. HH I didn't try that myself (although I have an AF500FTZ I'm not a great HH flash user), but maybe this informations brings some light into the HH flash behaviour of the *istD. HH Cheers, Heiko - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
RE: Humble PUG Review
And me, the former molecular biologist, thinking, animals is animals. Whether You think of them as pigs or people, cops are undeniably animals. Quoting frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I guess we two, you and I simply differ on what the theme is about. You're thinking only animals, I'm thinking pretty much anything peripherally related to animals. - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
RE: Re[2]: Ergonomics of *istD
If you want real wireless flash you need a radio slave anyway. This is toy wireless flash. -- Ask not at whom the Chimp smirks - he smirks at you. www.smirkingchimp.com www.gregpalast.com www.monbiot.com -Original Message- From: Rob Brigham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 6-Jan-04 15:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: Ergonomics of *istD Not useless if you want wireless flash.
RE: *ist D lens problem -Healed!
There's a CR-Something-or-other (2026?) in there. Quoting Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I tried what Tanya suggested, and the camera/lens works without the grip. I also waited a while before re-inserting the batteries inot the body. Since there is not little button battery hiding somewhere that I know of, the camera should have been completely powered down. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
RE: OT: Polarizer pictures, which is better, and why?
I agree, but the effect is extremely slight. -- Ask not at whom the Chimp smirks - he smirks at you. www.smirkingchimp.com www.gregpalast.com www.monbiot.com -Original Message- From: Robert Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 4-Jan-04 20:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Polarizer pictures, which is better, and why? The second one, (B+W), looked more saturated and deeper blue than the first to me. rg Alan Chan wrote: This has nothing to do with Pentax, but I reckon there are some experts here might be able to tell the differences. I did 2 shots this afternoon with identical setting just to see if there was any colour difference between HOYA B+W CPL. I turned the filters until they gave the deepest blue colour possible. These shots were done with the Canon A80 because I do not have the *ist D. Now called me naive, but I compared these 2 shots side by side at 100% in Photoshop, and while there is some very slight colour difference (could be due to the lack of precise angle of the CPLs), I would not be able to determine which is better and found them equally good on my monitors. Some comments I received from other forum suggested the HOYA one was slightly fogged, while another said he would buy B+W. What am I missing? Why cannot I see the difference? I could faked their titles and tricked people to believe the HOYA was B+W, and like vise, but I did not. I want some honest opinion here. Anyone? HOYA Ultra CPL: http://www.pbase.com/image/24771315 B+W CPL: http://www.pbase.com/image/24771314 Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f% 2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: OT: why trailing-curtain-sync is useful
Forgive me for being dense, but it seems to me that you cannot tell whether he is using trailing curtain or not, because he's panning at the time hew's releasing the shutter. I will explain why I think this, then you can educate me as to how I'm wrong. The relative motion that's important in establishing the direction of the blur is that of the car in the viewfinder (or, more precisely, on the film) during the period the shutter is open. If the lens is panning forward faster than the car is moving, such that the car appears to be moving backwards in the viewfinder (or on the film) at the time of the exposure, trailing curtain sync will look like leading curtain sync. The only way to tell for sure is to have the lens stationary and the object moving, or to know somehow that the car was actually moving forward at a greater rate than the lens was tracking it. If the lens is stationary, such that the car is certain to be moving from right to left in the viewfinder at the time the shot is fired, then the blur will reliably indicate whether leading or trailing curtain sync was used. OK, where have I misapprehended the physics of all this? Quoting Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I On Jan 2, 2004, at 4:44 PM, Christian wrote: I've no idea what he was doing! I was thinking that he was panning using flash and getting the blur-going-forward effect which should be solved using trailing-curtain-sync. That's exactly what he was doing. You shoot at 1/15 or so with a flash that's close in exposure to ambient and you get some nice motion blur. But without trailing curtain sync they go the wrong way. i've done these kind of shots for magazines from time to time using my archaic equipment. The solution? You just have the driver back up. Of course that won't work when shooting race cars. If it does, they're probably in trouble and you might as well wait for the impending crash g?. - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
RE: OT: why trailing-curtain-sync is useful
You are partially correct. The blurs would be behind the apparent direction of movement of the object *within the frame*, not necessarily behind the actual direction of movement of the object with respect to the viewer. For example, if the car travels at 50 mph, and I pan with the direction of travel of the car, but faster than the car is moving, the car appears to be moving backwards within the frame. If I use leading curtain sync while doing this, the trails from the car's lights will appear to be BEHIND the car. if I use trailing curtain sync in this same experiment, the trails will be IN FRONT OF the car. If, OTOH, the car is moving at 50mph, but I am panning more slowly than the car is moving, leading curtain sync will give trails IN FRONT OF the car (as we normally expect from leading curtain sync), because the apparent motion of the car within the frame is forwards. If I use trailing curtain sync, the trails, also as expected, will be IN FRONT OF the car. You can do the same thing with a stationary object. Pan to the left, the apparent motion of the object within the frame is to the right, and leading curtain sync gives a trail to the right with a clear image to the left. Use trariling urtain sync, and the clear image is on the right, with a trail to the left. Absolute motion is irrelevant - it's the motion of the object within the film frame that matters. -Original Message- From: Christian Skofteland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2-Jan-04 17:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: why trailing-curtain-sync is useful either way (panning or not) trailing-curtain sync would put whatever blurs were in the picture caused by subject motion or camera shake BEHIND the direction of movement. You are still freezing the subject with that burst of flash at the END of the exposure. Look at the pictures. The headlights are clearly in front of the frozen cars indicating that the exposure was still going on while he panned (or didn't; I think he was panning) but after the flash fired. Quoting Bucky: Forgive me for being dense . . . ;-) Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 6:37 PM Subject: Re: OT: why trailing-curtain-sync is useful BTW, I should add that if a background were visible, and it exhibited motion blur, or if there was a brightly lit foreground, we could probably tell which sync was used, because the background is almost certainly moving on one direction as seen through the viewfinder. Because these shots are so dark, there's nothing meaningful to use as a frame of reference. Quoting myself: Forgive me for being dense . . . - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
RE: OT: why trailing-curtain-sync is useful
Of course, the last IN FRONT OF should have read BEHIND. -Original Message- From: Bucky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2-Jan-04 18:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT: why trailing-curtain-sync is useful If, OTOH, the car is moving at 50mph, but I am panning more slowly than the car is moving, leading curtain sync will give trails IN FRONT OF the car (as we normally expect from leading curtain sync), because the apparent motion of the car within the frame is forwards. If I use trailing curtain sync, the trails, also as expected, will be IN FRONT OF the car.
For Sale - 2004 January 1
I have an SMC Pentax-M 50mm 1:1.4 for sale. If anyone on the PDML is interested, you get first shot, otherwise I'll eBay it. This lens is in what I would describe as unusually good condition. You can tell it's not straight out of the box by some wear marks on the lens mount and a couple of small flecks of dust on the inside of the front element that do not affect image quality. Gauging it by what I've seen from BH, I'd rate it about an 8+ or a 9. Interested persons may email and we can work out a price. I generally sell a bit to the cheap side of fair, except I haven't seen any place on the Web that has this lens right now so don't really know what fair is. Cheers, Mike -- Ask not at whom the Chimp smirks - he smirks at you. www.smirkingchimp.com www.gregpalast.com www.monbiot.com
RE: No grain as a digital advantage?
Groan -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 1-Jan-04 15:58 To: pentax list Subject: Re: No grain as a digital advantage? It's a print, Jim - but not as we know it.
Re: White Balance
I have never used auto white balance, except in the first few shots when the camera was new. I use the presets quite often, and custom settings in odd lighting conditions where there is a mix of fluorescent and incandescent, or different types of fluorescents mixed. Quoting Jeff Geilenkirchen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Good Point! I haven't seen much on the list in the way of managing the white balance for the *istDers. Since my purchase of a few weeks ago, I've kept it on automatic white balance. Does anyone here actively change their white balance specific to their subjects or lighting? Any thoughts are welcome here. Have a great day, Jeff -Original Message- From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 8:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Just one tip Kevin Waterson wrote: If you could impart just one tip to someone regarding photography, what would it be? With the *ist D, check your ISO and white balance before you start shooting. Bill - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
BH Customer Service Rocks
OK, so some of you may have read my recent post. I ordered a lens (FA* 28-70 f/2.8) from BH. It came overnight, was in the original box, looked as new, but was missing the hood, a $75 touch. I had, of course, no way to prove that the lens was without a hood, so, having dealt with poor customer service before (though not from BH), was slightly concerned about the likelihood of getting them to see my side. This morning, I called Israel Hartman (sp?), the used equipment manager, who was insanely busy on this last day before the New Year. He looked up my order, said, there is no question that you deserve it, put me on hold while he walked to the warehouse and retrieved the hood from the other used lens they had in stock, returned to the phone, and said I've got it in my hand as I speak. He verified my shipping info and sent it by UPS Express to me at no cost. I know what many of you will say, and you are right. This is the way retailers, particularly those doing business over the internet, where their customers buy on faith of the retailer's word, SHOULD operate. However, the reality is that many retailers wouldn't and don't. After it had all gone through, I asked him, Why did you take my word on this? How do you know I'm not just trying to get a free hood out of you? He said, Because mose people are honest. Only a few are crooks. But very few crooks target used lens hoods. If some do, then it's just the cost of doing business. Bottom line: BH, from whom I have purchased three expensive lenses and a Domke bag with only this one wrinkle, have come through. I have no hesitation in recommending them. Happy New Year, all. Mike - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
RE: BH Customer Service Rocks
Did you get it yet? Mine is beautiful, though rather naked without the hood. If they'd told me it was new, I'd have had no reason to argue. Haven't done any shooting of consequence with it, but MAN is it heavy - heavier, I think, even than the Tokina ATX Pro it's replacing. And that's without that stout hood. No I just have to consider whether to keep the 24-90. It's a rather pleasant alternative to the 28-70 when walking around, with a more suitable range for the *istD. Too slow at the long end though. Perhaps I'll ditch it when Pentax bring out a good zoom that can attain a usefully wide angle with the digital. Cotty wrote: Hey, I just ordered that lens!!! ;-) Bottom line: BH, from whom I have purchased three expensive lenses and a Domke bag with only this one wrinkle, have come through. I have no hesitation in recommending them. Absolutely. I have bought new and used from them and they are pretty darned good. They have a reputation to consider and it's deserved. I wouldn't think twice before ordering again.
TR-Power Pack II Batteries
TR Power Pack II states that it must not be used with NiCd batteries. I realize that alkalines are the preferred type, but what do people think about using NiMH C cells? Risk, or safe? Cheers, Mike -- Ask not at whom the Chimp smirks - he smirks at you. www.smirkingchimp.com www.gregpalast.com www.monbiot.com
RE: BH Service
I might agree with that, except that the description on their web site is of the new lens and the accessories that come with it (the hood and lens caps). This description includes a link that says, Buy it used for $X - you click that link and are given the used rating (9+, in this case) and the price, but no other qualifications to the description of the new lens. In my opinion, that means they include the hood and lens caps unless they specifically tell me otherwise in advance of the purchase. They may see it differently. We'll see, I guess. Cheers, Mike -Original Message- From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30-Dec-03 20:44 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: BH Service It's always been my experience when buying from online dealers that if it doesn't specify the hood in the description, there will be no hood. That is one butt ugly lens without a hood. tv -Original Message- From: Bucky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 8:59 PM To: Pentax Peepl Subject: BH Service I have just received an FA* 28-70 f/2.8 bought used from BH. The lens was advertised on their web site as 9+ condition, and arrived in an original box with packing. However, the dedicated lens hood is missing. I have emailed them, and will contact them tomorrow by phone, but depending on their conduct, I may find myself in the unenviable situation of having to prove that they shorted me and that I am not trying to screw them out of an extra hood. I've looked at their site, and the hood is about US$75 new, so we are not talking about a trivial item. Has anyone dealt with BH on similar issues? If so, how was their service? Cheers, Mike -- Ask not at whom the Chimp smirks - he smirks at you. www.smirkingchimp.com www.gregpalast.com www.monbiot.com
RE: Just one tip
Natinal Geographic is, therefore, full of incompetent photographers. Perhaps that gives you an idea of the weight you can attach to Tom's opinion on that issue. -Original Message- From: Tanya Mayer Photography [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27-Dec-03 21:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Just one tip - but as Tom said anything less than 100% means that I am incompetent as a photographer.
RE: Just one tip
Take some damn pictures. -- Ask not at whom the Chimp smirks - he smirks at you. www.smirkingchimp.com www.gregpalast.com www.monbiot.com -Original Message- From: Kevin Waterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29-Dec-03 19:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Just one tip If you could impart just one tip to someone regarding photography, what would it be?
Re: Another ebay scam!
There is a punk song to that effect: 668 - neighbor of the beast! Quoting Th. Stach [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I once saw a t-shirt: 667 - neighbour of the beast ;-) Thomas Thomas Stach wrote: 666? LOL! Not bad... :-) Thomas thank goodness I got another point - so I'm at a friendly 667 now :) (I say its spinach and i say to hell with it) ann Ann Sanfedele schrieb: Thomas Stach wrote: Hello, another ebay scam just arrived at an email adress of me that ebay doen't even know. So funny! The page was so primitive, they even wanted to me to give them my credit card number on it. Can people really be that naive? Of course I gave them the number: It is 666, what else? But read for yourself! Thomas The ones I got were more subtle - but I just noticed that my feedback points have reached 666 - hope it doesnt scare off the customers! annsan - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
RE: Business with Vintage Visuals in CA
Bought my 28mm Shift there. Prices seemed a trifle high if you don't bicker and dicker, otherwise no complaints. -- Ask not at whom the Chimp smirks - he smirks at you. www.smirkingchimp.com www.gregpalast.com www.monbiot.com -Original Message- From: jmb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13-Dec-03 17:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Business with Vintage Visuals in CA Hello, Has anyone done business with Vintage Visuals? http://www.vintagevisuals.com/pentax.htm?cfA3F3228E=YTMyNzk5ODpnb2 9keWVhcmludGVybmV0OqJKiZ/98ZXDhMY9w68UcM= John
Re: *ist D battery behavior
I'll scan it and send it to you if you want. Quoting mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Michel Carrère-Gée wrote: Where I can found the grip owner manuaal to download ?? http://www.pentax.com/docstore/index.cfm?show=6 Lists the camera manual but not the grip, yet. Might be worth visiting regularly. mike - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: PayPal Beware - seller tracking number mandatory for your safety
That is most interesting to me, because I just sold three bodies and a couple of lenses, as well as a protein skimmer, on eBay, some with written waivers of insured shipping from international buyers (dumb on their part, IMHO). Thankfully the feedback is all in - everything was received as it should have been - because if it hadn't been, I'd be a bit nervous right now. I also received no notification of the change in PayPal terms of service. Time to look at BidPay? Quoting John Mustarde [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ann - they did NOT notify me, and I did not issue any agreement to new terms of service. This change in Terms of Service took place Oct 16, which is just a few days ago. - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: PayPal's new policy
What's the matter with saying in your listing, Buyer pays actual costs of transaction, or, final bid price is net to seller? That covers everything, and is not a simple surcharge for the fact that someone uses PayPal - it's simply an indemnification of the seller's costs. Quoting Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Which is the violation 1) the surcharge on PayPal or 2) charging it on all payment types? I only do it for PayPal anyway. Lots of sellers add 5% for PayPal. Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery See New Pages 'The Cement Company from HELL!' Updated: August 15, 2003 Oh my God! They've killed Teddy! - Original Message - From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 5:54 PM Subject: Re: PayPal's new policy On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Dr E D F Williams wrote: In the meantime I'm going to raise my surcharge to 5.5% and add a handling charge as well. Once I get rid of all the stuff I have to sell I'll just drop eBay and PayPal completely. Do you charge that surcharge for PayPal orders only, or for all payment types? According to PayPal's rules, that's a violation of their TOS agreement. chris - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: Very OT: Re: The morality of taking a photograph
Chris, I'd be most interested in your perspective (as an American voter) on Bob's interesting statement quoted below, given the 2000 Florida voter roles scam and the decision of the US Supreme Court, both of which I have followed with some interest. It certainly seems that, given the available information, the claim that the last presidential election constituted meaningful public consultation is another extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary evidence. Obviously, someone (three guesses who) is soon going to object to this thread, so you may respond by email if you like. Quoting Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have to leave for work now, but I'll answer your points later. On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Bob Blakely wrote: Your meaningful public consultation occurred at the ballot box. - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
RE: Politics on the PDML.
You're right in that it's certainly one of the two. -Original Message- From: Tom Ivar Helbekkmo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22-Nov-03 18:44 To: William Robb Cc: Pentax Discuss Subject: Re: Politics on the PDML. Huh? Why the strong reactions, either way? Not recognizing the name quoted as the author, I can't tell if it was a weird rant by an insane person, or a parody written by a comedian, but surely it's no big deal?
Cleaning the CCD
So I did it. The anti-aliasing filter of my *istD finally got some sticky crud on it that the CO2 wouldn't blow off. I suspect that the stuff came out of the 24-90 I just bought from KEH, which came packed in styrofoam, always a problem with static. Add to that the highly charged CCD, and WHAMMO! Dust magnet. I considered sending the whole unit to Dog knows where to get it looked at (Pentax Vancouver being out of business), but heard that it's $70 a shot. As the camera ages, this problem is bound to get worse, so I firured I'd better get conversant with the mthod right now. I looked at a couple of sites on the Web, and with fear in my heart, I resolved to clean the thing myself. I bought some Eclipse and some PecPads, and cut a Superstore card to be slightly less wide than the CCD. I wore powder-free latex gloves, changed the batteries and locked the shutter and mirror open, and went to work. The results are flawless. A few drops of Eclipse on the PecPad, wrapped around the credit card sliver, and one wipe in each direction (GENTLY!), and the crud is gone. I was certainly nervous about doing it, and I still wouldn't want to do this all the time, but it can be done without damage to the CCD. I've read that you should use the AC adapter for this kind of thing, but I don't have one, so I just used fresh NiMHs. I also considered buying the swabs specifically designed for CCDs, but they are $12 each. I know that's cheaper than a new CCD, but I'm just not willing to be held ranson like that. I read a few accounts of doing it this way, is I figured I'd go for it. As an aside, the place I phoned to get the supplies is probably the most pro-oriented shop in Vancouver, which seems to translate into the fact that they hold Pentax 35mm (or D-SLRs) in a certain amount of contempt. They asked me what I had - D1, D100, Canon monster, and I said, Nope, Pentax. He made that scoffing noise: Pfft! - one of those little star thingies, whatever they call 'em? Yup, said I. He asked, You got dust on it already? I said, Yup. He said, I didn't think those things had been out long enough to have dust on them.
RE: Cleaning the CCD
Beau Photo. They know their stuff, but the attitude of some people there sucks. -Original Message- From: Chris Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21-Nov-03 21:20 To: Pentax Peepl Subject: Re: Cleaning the CCD On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Bucky wrote: As an aside, the place I phoned to get the supplies is probably the most pro-oriented shop in Vancouver, which seems to translate into the fact that they hold Pentax 35mm (or D-SLRs) in a certain amount of contempt. They asked me what I had - D1, D100, Canon monster, and I said, Nope, Pentax. He made that scoffing noise: Pfft! - one of those little star thingies, whatever they call 'em? Yup, said I. He asked, You got dust on it already? I said, Yup. He said, I didn't think those things had been out long enough to have dust on them. Sheesh, which store was that? Now I remember why I buy on ebay and mail order. Chris in Surrey, BC :) -- Chris Murray /\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN http://apeman.org/ XAGAINST HTML MAIL Cell: 604.861.8307 / \/ Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
RE: Dumb *istD Questions
Marnie, Tha layout on the *istD is the same as the Z1-p - the Av wheel is on the back of the camera, just to the right of the exposure compensation button (+/-). http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxistd/page2.asp Follow the above link - the Av dial is the one at teh top-right of the backside - it has two blue markings above it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16-Nov-03 19:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Dumb *istD Questions Okay, another dumb newbie q. Dusting off that format. :-) In my reading of dpreview's review of the *istD, I haven't been able to figure out where the aperture is set. I see the shutter speed dial, but looking at the photos can't tell where the aperture dial is. Could someone tell me referring to the dpreview photos? Also, one thing I really dislike about the Canon interface is the wheel on the back that can be used so many different ways depending on what else you trip (sets aperture when you trip the M switch), because it gets confusing. I have noticed that a similar type of wheel is practically on all the DSLRs I have looked at. And even the *istD has a wheel! But with more obvious right/left/up/down arrows. Please tell me that doesn't work like on the Canon. Does completely different things if you flip some other switch, turn some other dial first (to easy to forget which combination does what). Is it mainly for navigating the menu? Or what? TIA, Marnie aka Doe
Genzo
Hello All, Due to the huge number of requests I've had for Genzo, I've posted it for people to download themselves, at: www.justicebehindthewalls.net/resources/GENZO_B2.exe. Download whould start immediately. Just plunk it onto your hard drive and start it up. I make no apologies for the atrocious user interface, since I had nothing to do with it. I'll can probably only leave it up for a few days, so get it while you can! Cheers, Mike
RE: I feel like Mike Johnston
Shel, I've been thinking about this rant of yours, and why it doesn't ring true to me. I think I have finally hit upon it. A brief parable is in order: I know This Guy. He calls himself a feminist. The way he chooses to express this feminism is to go down to the mall, watch couples entering and exiting, and verbally berate every man who doesn't open the door for the woman he's with, like so: I'm a feminist, you son of a bitch, and no fair woman like yours should have to open the door for herself. Is This Guy really a feminist? He professes to be, but his words say otherwise. Likewise, your rant pays lip service, in between episodes of extolling the virtues of fully manual cameras, to the idea that the final image is the most important thing in photography. I agree that this is so; most people on this list would opine likewise. However, I also note that the topic you return to most frequently is equipment: the Leica M3, the Spotmatic, the MX. You talk about telling grandchildren not about beautiful pictures you have made, but about developers and film. You may like the image just fine, but you're *obsessed* with the equipment. Forgive me for saying so, but your message reads as if written not by someone consumed with passion over making beautiful images, but by an Equipment Snob. You go on about the things that you can do with your old manual cameras and your synapses, and every one of them, without exception, can be done with a Z1p, or an *istD with at least as much control, often more (for instance, on the *istD, one can change ISO for every frame, or go from daylight to tungsten balanced medium in the blink of an eye). So what's the problem? You clearly regard yourself as some sort of master of a bygone skill; I read between the lines of your post to deduce that what really bugs you is that cameras offering more automation make it easier for new shooters to get good results more often without spending the time to learn the valuable basics of manual exposure, allowing the Philistines to enter what was, at one time, a much more exclusive hobby. That may be true to an extent, but I don't think this photographic incpompetence is present among those on the PDML to any significant degree, which is why your rant puzzles me. I am able to believe that most people buying the Rebel-D and a packaged lens with it will use it in auto mode most of the time. Perhaps this is true about the *istD, and about the latest Nikon D-whatever-monster. I simply don't see this as a problem. If more people spend more time shooting more pictures and looking at the world in new and exciting ways, we all benefit. I constantly find new ways to look at my surroundings by seeing how others put it onto film (film being used in the figurative sense). Exposing a shot correctly is never all that hard, no matter what kind of camera you use - pinhole, medium format, 35mm, 110, full-manual or full-auto. The real test is producing an emotionally involving or visually intriguing image. Look at some of Gianfranco Irlanda's wonderful work on the PUG, or the sublime Child, by Luis Pinar, from a couple of years back (there are a number of other impressive shooters I realize I have overlooked), and you will see shining examples of photographers who have gotten the tough stuff right. I don't give a shit what cameras, lenses, paper, software, developers, filters, synapses or self-aggrandizing yackety-yack they may have employed in getting those pictures; it is all immaterial in the face of the final product. Digital darkrooms offer worlds of possibility that could never have been realized in the traditional way. Does digital photography have limitations? Most certainly. But they're no worse than the limitations imposed by shooting E-6, or by dealing with grain at ISO, or waiting so long between shooting and printing to see the result, or, dare I say it, by the damper imposed by the fact that if I shoot 350 frames on a weekend, as I did last weekend, it'll cost me over a hundred bucks and a lot of time just to see the results (film, developing, printing, scanning, etc). The limitations are just different. Some people love exercising the capacity to learn to work with these new developments. Discussing digital technology is embracing a new medium that has a lot of potential, something which I find extremely moving and exciting. The principal elements of getting the data onto the medium haven't changed (much), but what you do with the data HAS changed. John Francis appears to be considering creating a RAW to JPG converter (JF, if you were to come up with such a product, I for one would buy it). This is the rough equivalent of formulating your own developer. Have you ever done that? Talk about control over the nuts and bolts of the process! Anyway, as you say after ranting about digital cameras and those who use them, this message is not meant as a slur; one good rant deserves another. I think that there are any number of
RE: I feel like Mike Johnston
Happy Birthday! But after all I was just being honest. I have often called my wife over to the monitor to show her your latest effort. -Original Message- From: Gianfranco Irlanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15-Nov-03 12:57 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: I feel like Mike Johnston Bucky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look at some of Gianfranco Irlanda's wonderful work on the PUG Thanks for those words, Bucky. The best present for my birthday I did receive this year (well, my birthday was yesterday, but who cares? :-). I really appreciated your post. Ciao, Gianfranco = To read is to travel without all the hassles of luggage. ---Emilio Salgari (1863-1911) __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree
RE: Genzo
Glad it was helpul. You will let us know if/when you find a use for it, right?;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15-Nov-03 12:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Genzo Thanks, Mike! Even though I don't have the *istD (yet), I downloaded it, just to have it if needed. Marnie aka Doe :-)
RE: I feel like Mike Johnston
I will send you a copy of the software if you like. -Original Message- From: Robert Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14-Nov-03 21:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: I feel like Mike Johnston Exactly. And the main thrust of the current discussion centers around getting the best possible image, which apparently Pentax's photo lab does not deliver. Dario's comparison with the 300D proves that. The Genzo Raw convertor's images look much sharper. I can't seem to find it anywhere tho. rg Bucky wrote: Utter nonsense. People have yammered on ad nauseam about developers in this forum too. Bits, bytes, and the software that manipulates 'em is a big part of a new, and equally legitimate, form of photography. Pentax is now a manufacturer of digital photographic equipment, which makes the entire science fair game on this list. I do agree with Shel on one point though - discussion of intricacies of digital world takes us somewhat away from Pentax and from Photography. Indeed, comparing various OSes, software packages, file formats, and so on, has rather little to do with PP above...
Re: And now: the *ist D vs. the EOS 300D!
I would be surprised if new firmware and software is not out soon. Every review has mentioned the weak software the the inadequate in-camera sharpening tools, and this list is replete with complaints about the RAW conversion issue particularly. Quoting Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: But this means the hardware design is sound, software tweaks can be fixed later, but they better be soon!\ --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, many thanks to Ruediger Neumann for the link to the German page discussing Genzo RAW utility. At the end, the main problem with image quality of the *ist D truly looks to be the bad RAW-JPEG conversion done by the Pentax software. If you do a good conversion, the pictures have nothing to envy to Canon's SLR's (and surpass them well at higher ISO settings). Cheers, Dario Bonazza Now this is v-e-r-y interesting. Pentax is shooting itself in its own foot with its software. Marnie :-) __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: And now: the *ist D vs. the EOS 300D!
The Pentax firmware, of course. What do *you* think does it? Quoting John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I find ***L jpeg to be more than enough for my use, and I don't use the Pentax software. Really? What do you think does the conversion to JPEG, then? - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: And now: the *ist D vs. the EOS 300D!
He knew that's exactly what you meant, as did everyone else that read your message. Quoting Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I was referring to the Photo Laboratory software that I don't use. Bill - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:05 PM Subject: Re: And now: the *ist D vs. the EOS 300D! I find ***L jpeg to be more than enough for my use, and I don't use the Pentax software. Really? What do you think does the conversion to JPEG, then? - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: And now: the *ist D vs. the EOS 300D!
It certainly *looks* like it uses a different algorithm to me. That's all I can go by. You apparently know otherwise; care to go into the details? Sure, firmware is software. And software is nothing but hardware set to a certain configuration. So what? Quoting John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And you think Pentax firmware encodes a better RAW-to-JPEG conversion algorithm than that used in the Pentax Photo Laboratory software? Firmware *is* software, anyway. - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: And now: the *ist D vs. the EOS 300D!
Perhaps not, but no one was talking about it being a panacea; that was your idea. Quoting John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [snip] assuming that using the in-camera implementations is a panacea is a leap of faith that I am not prepared to take without seeing evidence. - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: OT: CLA + Rocky Bullwinkle
I remember that one episode: Ernie, you can't eat cookies in your bed - the crumbs will getinto your pajamas make you all itchy. OK, I'll eat cookies in *your* bed, Bert! Quoting frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kind of like Bert and Ernie. I always thought that was a bit weird, too. Like, where were their parents? - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: OT: CLA + Rocky Bullwinkle
I remember that one episode: Ernie, you can't eat cookies in your bed - the crumbs will getinto your pajamas make you all itchy. OK, I'll eat cookies in *your* bed, Bert! Quoting frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kind of like Bert and Ernie. I always thought that was a bit weird, too. Like, where were their parents? - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
RE: And now: the *ist D vs. the EOS 300D!
You didn't question any claim, you posted a snotty little obtuse comment that read so: Really? What do you think does the conversion to JPEG, then? Therein lay the principal instance of nitpicking in this thread. You're just miffed because you're used to getting away without being called on it. Seeing that you had been caught playing the pedant, you then switched your position, acknowledging that there could be a difference, but that you doubted that the second method was *better*. You then MANUFACTURED a quote to make your own, newly adopted, position seem more reasonable, and go on to take me to task for noticing. HAR! Regardless of what you may want to believe, people on this list have noticed that there is a difference in result between the two types of conversion. OK, you have now abandoned your first position (why would you assume that the in-camera conversion does not have the same problems - implying that there isn't a difference, although it had already been established that the difference in result was not ASSUMED but OBSERVED) in favor of your second (there may be a difference but one is not necessarily better). The change, though unnoticed, is most welcome. -Original Message- From: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10-Nov-03 20:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: And now: the *ist D vs. the EOS 300D! I may not have been your claim, but it most certainly is your fabrication. Mr. Owens wrote is as follows: I find ***L jpeg to be more than enough for my use, and I don't use the Pentax software. I import directly into Photoshop via PIM. I did not understand him to mean, nor is it reasonable to imply that he meant, that importing ***L jpg into PS is a panacea, only that it offers better results than using the bundled Pentax RAW--jpg conversion software. And it's *precisely* that claim that I am questioning. It may be true. Or it may not be. But it seems perfectly reasonable to question this assumption, given the fact that we know there some issues with the RAW-to-JPEG conversion in Photo Laboratory. We know that the in-camera conversion seems to use a *different* algorithm. But is it better? Go ahead and nit-pick this to death again, if that's all you can offer to the discussion. It would be nice if you could offer something useful instead, but I'm not hopeful.
RE: Way OT: Cleaning out the spam
Just make anything with pentax in the 'to' field a friend. No problem at all. -Original Message- From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 9-Nov-03 03:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Way OT: Cleaning out the spam I just had to uninstall MailWasher. Somehow it was bouncing auto reply and auto forward mails, thus causing me to be unsubscribed every time I replied to any post on the PDML. Bill - Original Message - From: Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 6:40 AM Subject: Way OT: Cleaning out the spam After about ten days of experimenting with MailWasher I've come to the conclusion it works. I added Spamhaus.org's database to the list -- which had SpamCop and ORDB -- and now I get hardly any spam at all. If I'd ordered each time I got an one particular offer I'd have needed to change my trousers for larger ones every week. Since I installed the program only three of these rubbishy emails got through: for a mortgage and two enlargements. I simply added them to the internal blacklist. The great advantage of MailWasher is that everything is done on the server -- before you launch your email program. Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery See New Pages The Cement Company from HELL! Updated: August 15, 2003
Re: First problem with *ist-D?
Bill, You may have said already, but I missed it if you did: what went wrong with your *istD? Quoting Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yesterday, the owner of the store told me to bring the camera in with the box and he would replace it. It was replaced today, and I'm happy to report that my new new *ist-D works fine. Christian Consider yourself very fortunate. Mine was sent to Pentax Colorado last Monday via overnight Fedex and was signed for at 0923 Tuesday morning. Last Friday I got word that they had received it, but wouldn't get around to looking at til this week, at which time a decision would be made as to whether to repair or replace. Bill - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: PZ-1 vs MZ-S
They didn't. The wheels in the Z1p and the *istD perform identical functions. Jostein must know something I don't! Quoting Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] It has one wheel for your right hand thumb to adjust shutter speed, and one wheel for your index to adjust the aperture. Cheers, Jostein This makes logical sense to me, whereas the *ist-D's layout does not: index finger controls shutter speed, thumb controls aperture. why did Pentax change it? Christian - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: PZ-1 vs MZ-S
I agree that the layout is fundamentally intuitive for me. Great camera all around, with the exception of the weatherproofing, sometimes a problem for me in Vancouver's rainy weather. Quoting John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] It has one wheel for your right hand thumb to adjust shutter speed, and one wheel for your index to adjust the aperture. Cheers, Jostein This makes logical sense to me, whereas the *ist-D's layout does not: index finger controls shutter speed, thumb controls aperture. why did Pentax change it? They didn't. Jostein got the description wrong. Why do you think it would make more sense to have the controls reversed? I don't think it makes all that much difference, and if anything would think the current arrangement (shutter speed control near the shutter release button) was the more sensible choice. - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: Pentax Promo in Canada
They're in my sh*t books right now for having closed Pentax Vancouver. Quoting Dario Bonazza 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just an explanation, as I don't want to be misunderstood. My sentence below was mainly intended as a joke (as the smiley shows), since I'm convinced that Pentax Canada is one of the best Pentax subsidiaries, maybe the most active one. I wish all Pentax subsidiaries could be as committed as Pentax Canada is. Dario To get rid of some MZ-S stuff :-) - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: Ebay
So sensitive when YOU are the one under the microscope! I note you did not show the same restraint with the other poster, who posted a warning from which many people on this list could be expected to benefit. Being unable to pay the seller is completely different from simply backing out because you got bad vibes, which is what you originally wrote in your little lecture. If you choose to be indignant because you misstated yourself, well, I guess that's your choice. Now think, think hard, I know it will be difficult for you to understand; people can only respond to what you post. BTW, even though the eBay feedback rant was somewhat of a non sequitur, feedback on eBay *does* list whether the member was the seller or buyer in the transaction in question. Quoting graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Now think, think hard, I know it will be difficult for you to understand; if I could not communicate with with a live person so they could get their money, what chance of fixing any problems do you think I would have had. Since I have had dealings with several people on this list I do not think there is any question of my honesty here. Bucky wrote: He is more likely to discount your opinion on the basis of the (first) comment quoted below. Backing out, a.k.a. 'welshing,' has wider implications than simply accepting negative feedback; it undermines the entire system by which that forum is able to go on working. Bad vibes are reliably and honorably cured by using an escrow service. -Original Message- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 26, 2003 16:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ebay [snip] Once I got such bad vibes I decided to not go through with the deal and accept the negative feedback myself. [snip] Of course since I have sold a half dozen items on Ebay I see you you have already discounted my opinion. Oh well... -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway. - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
RE: pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #1290
Mailwasher is my choice. Same sort of thing, but it lets you 'bounce' spam - those sending spam messages think it never reached you. -Original Message- From: Francis Ebury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25-Oct-03 23:21 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #1290 This is a really useful tip. I'm downloading 'The Bat' as I write this, but would appreciate your comments when you have evaluated it. Regards At 01:45 AM 26/10/2003 -0400, you wrote: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 00:01:18 +0100 From: Harold Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re[2]: Digital Camera Lens Optimization Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Keith wrote:- I found Becky in the message header and just surmised, but have never heard of it! What it is? keith Becky is email software and I have been using it for a number of years. It has good filtering capabilities which allows me to create a good number of folders to accomodate all the messages I receive from approximately 22 mailing lists and Yahoo groups. Any incoming emails are then delivered to the various folders. In addition it allows me to check messages held on my ISP's mail server prior to downloading, so all the junk messages are marked on the server for deletion prior to me downloading the genuine email messages. Another decent email program is The Bat which has similar functions to Becky, I've just installed the The Bat for a 30-day trial. Harry
RE: Fascinating - a must read!
...is a necessity if you want to stop prostate cancer in its early stages? -Original Message- From: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24-Oct-03 10:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fascinating - a must read! Digital penetration ...
Re: *ist D shutter delay?
David, In my hands, the *ist D's behavior is indistinguishable from a regular SLR with respect to shutter lag - it fires instantly upon pressing the release, provided you have the focus set. I would not have bought it were it otherwise. Quoting Dave Miers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi All The previous posts regarding LCD delay reminded me of one of my major concerns wth Digital Cameras. Both digitals I've owned so far have a very aggravating shutter delay. Timing your shot and getting the moment can be a very aggravating problem. Anticipating the moment is difficult enough without having to factor in shutter lag. Can some of you that own the *ist D comment on this camera's performance in regard to shutter lag? Thanks David C Miers - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
RE: Hypermanual
Congrats. It's a great camera. I just sold both of mine for Pentax's me too digital. I felt more than a twinge of regret letting them go. -Original Message- From: Francis Alviar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22-Oct-03 14:43 To: Pentax Discuss List Subject: Re: Hypermanual It looks like I have a lot of reading to do. I just bought my friend's PZ-1P. From the initial inspection it appears to be a robust, capable camera. I can't wait to try it out for our trip to Disneyland. I may have to put off my *ist D dreams on hold for a while. Francis __ Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Great feature. I've never had one of the Pentax bodies with it but ... I did get to use a TLR with it! Yes, on some the ss aperture can be locked together. Turn one and the other moves. It's a very practical feature, whether mechanical or electronic. CRB _ __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
RE: *ist D: Enabled!
Oh, there's no question the charger and batteries are better. I'll keep 4 CR-V3s around for emergencies anyway, but much rather have the charger. -Original Message- From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21-Oct-03 07:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist D: Enabled! The Pentax charger and NiMh batteries I picked up last Saturday were only $25.00 US. This is pretty close to what 2 CR-V3 batteries cost, so it's probably an even swap, but a better deal for you. The charger is kind of slow though, taking 7 hours to charge the 4 NiMh batteries. Bill - Original Message - From: Bucky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Peepl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 11:46 PM Subject: *ist D: Enabled! OK, so I go to pick up my *istD today, and there's a package that comes with it that contains a battery charger and 4 AA NiMH batteries. On the side of the box, the part of the included items that refers to the 2 CRV3 batteries has been scribbled out with a black magic marker. Inside the box is a slip that informs me that Pentax Canada has upgraded the CRV3s to rechargeables for a more enjoyable picture taking experience. I wonder what's up? Shurely they didn't do it out of the goodness of their hearts.
RE: *ist D: Enabled!
I now have the following that use AAs: Minolta F300 5MP 2xAF500FTZ *istD and battery grip That's a total of 18 batteries to keep everything running. I now have 5 chargers and 20-some NiMH AAs. My wife says, Bucky, didn't you just GET some batteries? I say, Yes, but I need more. She sighs and shrugs her shoulders. -Original Message- From: Juey Chong Ong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21-Oct-03 08:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist D: Enabled! On Monday, Oct 20, 2003, at 23:46 America/New_York, Bucky wrote: OK, so I go to pick up my *istD today, and there's a package that comes with it that contains a battery charger and 4 AA NiMH batteries. On the side of the box, the part of the included items that refers to the 2 CRV3 batteries has been scribbled out with a black magic marker. Inside the box is a slip that informs me that Pentax Canada has upgraded the CRV3s to rechargeables for a more enjoyable picture taking experience. All I can say is: Congratulations, you are so lucky! I'd trade the CRV3's that came with mine for a *good* NiMH charger anytime. I'm glad Pentax got it so quickly. When I bought my Olympus C2000Z, it came with a great universal-voltage NiMH rapid charger and batteries. By the time I upgraded to the C3000Z, it was CRV3s. When I upgraded to the C5050, it was back to NiMH charger and batteries, but this time, it was no longer a rapid charger. Thank goodness I didn't sell the old charger. And this year it's the Pentax *ist-D using the old Olympus batteries and chargers. :-) So on average, the one digital camera a year theory has been true for me, at least. They don't pile up, though. The C2000Z was stolen; the C3000Z developed dead sensors so I sold it. --jc
RE: SMC-A lens and *istD use
This was what made me so happy with the camera - the interface is so familiar to my now sold Z1ps. -Original Message- From: Juey Chong Ong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21-Oct-03 08:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SMC-A lens and *istD use On Tuesday, Oct 21, 2003, at 10:59 America/New_York, alex wetmore wrote: The *ist D does Hypermanual too and it works exactly in this manner. Yup. Because parts of it operate so similarly to my PZ-1p, I can pretty much use the *ist-D out-of-the-box without having to read the manual. --jc
RE: *ist D: Enabled!
It's a big PITA, as you will remember. -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21-Oct-03 17:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist D: Enabled! Hi, Bucky, Trial prep? What's that? -frank the ex-lawyer vbg The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ah, the joyand the pain. I am in the middle of preparation for a trial and have had no chance to actually play with the camera in any meaningful way. snip _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
RE: *ist D: Enabled!
The task of defending some dude. -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21-Oct-03 19:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist D: Enabled! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, the joyand the pain. I am in the middle of preparation for a trial and have had no chance to actually play with the camera in any meaningful way. Sorry to hear that. What have you been charged with? :-P -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: photographing cigarette smoke
Sexistic. -Original Message- From: Doug Brewer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20-Oct-03 06:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: photographing cigarette smoke Oh, and these pix are very sexist.
RE: *ist 35mm
I played with one yesterday while discussing the D with my friend who works at the local Enabler shop. It's cute, I suppose, and handles nicely, but I HATED the interface for setting shutter speed and aperture, having been used to the Z1p's lovely layout (the Tv and Av wheels, echoed so considerately on the *istD). I do like the placement of the DOF preview feature, which, on other bodies, has always seemed somewhat out of the way to me. Another gripe I noticed in the few minutes I played with it was the loud P!!! it makes when you release the shutter, almost like the sound of those kiddies' toy cars with the flywheels and gears inside them (you know, the ones where you push them on the table and get the internal mechanism spinning, and then they keep going for a couple of yards with all that energy stored in the flywheel). Not bad outside or in crowded places with lots of talking going on, but WAY too loud to be unobtrusive in a quiet setting, and, subjectively, smacking of plastic and cheapness and barely-adequate motors. Now, as someone on this list has said (and I agree), plastic is not automatically a cheap substitute anymore. I am a fan of *good* plastic construction, for weight issues, resilience, and the like. However, I don't like the nagging feeling that the machine I'm using is fragile. My preference would be to get a used MZ-5N or -3, although I am sure that some will disagree. I had a 5N for a couple of years, and it was supremely intuitive in its interface, being essentially like the manual SLRs we're all on such intimate terms with. In the end, if you like how it feels and how its interface works, then go for it, because that's all that matters. BTW, the Batt. Grip makes it MUCH easier to handle, IMO. I find the Pentax bodies a little hard to deal with because of their small vertical dimension - I like to have more space for my hand. -Original Message- From: Cari Spano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19-Oct-03 15:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *ist 35mm Has anyone used the *ist 35mm camera? I currently own the SF1 which I have had since about 1987 and I am thinking about buying a newer Pentax. I would love to hear some input on it. I would love to have the *istd but that is way out of my price range. Thanks for your input, Cari
RE: We need a theme song!
No, the late great Warren Zevon. -Original Message- From: Butch Black [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19-Oct-03 16:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: We need a theme song! Poor, poor, pitiful me - Linda Ronstadt Butch
RE: Pentax 6x7 and rain
How about the *ist D? Kinda makes me cringe to think about it... -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19-Oct-03 19:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax 6x7 and rain Theorietically, the 6x7 is not weather sealed.
RE: *ist 35mm
Makes me think of the Irish Rovers. How scary. -Original Message- From: Stan Halpin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19-Oct-03 19:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist 35mm There are children on the list that have no idea what you are talking about; isn't it sad? I mentioned this line to my wife, she is now singing the full lyrics, very nicely. Thanks for the reminder! Stan on 10/19/03 8:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bucky posted (among many other things) Another gripe I noticed in the few minutes I played with it was the loud P!!! it makes when you release the shutter, almost like the sound of those kiddies' toy cars with the flywheels and gears inside them (you know, the ones where you push them on the table and get the internal mechanism spinning, and then they keep going for a couple of yards with all that energy stored in the flywheel). It went Zip when it moved and Pop when it stopped, Whirrr when it stood still I never knew just what it was and I guess I never will.* ... oh, right, this isn't the theme song thread ... slinking away never mind ... g *The Marvelous Toy recorded by Peter, Paul Mary. Quoted with no permission from anyone.
RE: *ist D makes me cringe (was Pentax 6x7 in the rain)
Hi-firmative, SIR! -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19-Oct-03 19:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:*ist D makes me cringe (was Pentax 6x7 in the rain) Bucky wrote: How about the *ist D? Kinda makes me cringe to think about it... Makes me cringe to think about it as well. It would make me cringe more if I had spent $1500 on a camera that will undoubtedly be obsolete in less than a year. But can't we have a 6x7 thread without someone switching it over to Pentax's me too digital? Enough already.
RE: *ist D makes me cringe (was Pentax 6x7 in the rain)
Didn't you read? It'll be *obsolete*! That's what'll be wrong with it. Seriously, there are a few ways you could look at that statement: It may be obsolete because there will be cameras with higher resolution/better CCDs around for less money than now. Or it may be obsolete because...I dunno...there will be more features available? Personally, I find neither interpretation compelling. The camera, provided it still works, will provide the same performance and picture quality 5 years from now that it does today. Its usefulness is unrelated to the general state of the art. -Original Message- From: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19-Oct-03 19:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist D makes me cringe (was Pentax 6x7 in the rain) if I had spent $1500 on a camera that will undoubtedly be obsolete in less than a year. You reckon? What's going to obsolete it, then? And even if Pentax *do* come out with a new model (which I don't believe will happen) what's going to be wrong with the *ist-D?
RE: 35mm film camera prices in the toilet
I got $650 for an Lx with a 50mm f/2 M lens, FA-1 and FB-1 finders, and FD-1, FD-2, and FC-1 eyepieces not that long ago. i was satisfied with that. -Original Message- From: John Mustarde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19-Oct-03 20:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 35mm film camera prices in the toilet On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:28:56 -0400, you wrote: Rob and a number of others have reported that 35mm film camera prices are in the toilet. Once again, I turned to ebay, the great arbitrer of camera prices, in order to pick up some bargains. Once again, I was met with disappointment. These don't seem to be bargains in my book I hope there are no bargains, since I just listed an LX with FA-1 finder and SE-60 screen, and also an FB-1 base with FC-1 sports finder, and a Quantum battery with charger, and a nice little Pentax Bellows III. But if some PDML'er wants a bargain, make me an offer and maybe I'll end the auction early. http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=texdance; include=0since=-1sort=3rows=50 Ebay ID: Texdance -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
RE: Long exposure question
Works on the K1000 too. -Original Message- From: Larry Levy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17-Oct-03 13:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Long exposure question Graywolf wrote: There is a old wife's tale that on the MX the self-timer prefires the mirror. I just checked and it does not do so on mine. Of course the MX has no mirror lock-up so it is even worse than the LX where you can use mirror lock-up and a cable release. REPLY Not quite. If you tap the MX shutter release just right, the mirror will go up and stay there. You can then use a cable release to take the picture. I was able to do this with my Spotmatic, so I tried it with the MX. It takes practice, but it works. Larry
