Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use,, (legal/rights) influence

2011-12-02 Thread John Sessoms
From: William Robb On 30/11/2011 10:12 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: On Nov 30, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Philip Northeastrnort...@bigpond.net.au wrote: It seems strange for a country that gave us Henri Cartier-Bresson - the master of candid street photography I've always thought the same thing.

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use,, (legal/rights) influence

2011-12-02 Thread P. J. Alling
On 12/2/2011 12:07 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: William Robb On 30/11/2011 10:12 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: On Nov 30, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Philip Northeastrnort...@bigpond.net.au wrote: It seems strange for a country that gave us Henri Cartier-Bresson - the master of candid street

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use (legal/rights) influence

2011-12-02 Thread Þráinn Vigfússon
Here in Iceland the laws are similar to most of Northern Europe (I think). In general, you can take pictures in public spaces wherever you want, but displaying them is another matter. You'll need consent from all people that are prominent in your photographs with few exceptions, most notably

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use (legal/rights) influence

2011-12-02 Thread Stan Halpin
On Dec 2, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Þráinn Vigfússon wrote: . . . the market for photos of grim-faced pedestrians trying to hurry out of the wind and rain (or snow) is rather limited. Thrainn Mark!! stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use, (legal/rights) influence

2011-12-01 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms I think that's been the *LAW* in France since around 2004. Maybe before that it was just custom. I don't think that's correct. The law in question just states that everyone has the right to have their

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use, (legal/rights) influence

2011-12-01 Thread William Robb
On 30/11/2011 10:12 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: On Nov 30, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Philip Northeastrnort...@bigpond.net.au wrote: It seems strange for a country that gave us Henri Cartier-Bresson - the master of candid street photography I've always thought the same thing. Cheers, Christine

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use, (legal/rights) influence

2011-12-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Dec 1, 2011, at 9:35 PM, William Robb wrote: On 30/11/2011 10:12 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: On Nov 30, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Philip Northeastrnort...@bigpond.net.au wrote: It seems strange for a country that gave us Henri Cartier-Bresson - the master of candid street photography

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-30 Thread Thibouille
Thanks to all who responded so far. Seems the idea was good. I totally agree with Godfrey on the subject. Of course legal details are country (or region in federal countries) specific but interesting nonetheless. It seems in Québec, street shooting is more or less dead unless you ask the subject

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-30 Thread P. J. Alling
15 Years ago I got the impression that the situation in France was pretty much the same as that. On 11/30/2011 6:26 AM, Thibouille wrote: Thanks to all who responded so far. Seems the idea was good. I totally agree with Godfrey on the subject. Of course legal details are country (or region

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use, (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-30 Thread John Sessoms
I think that's been the *LAW* in France since around 2004. Maybe before that it was just custom. For a country that derives so much of its GDP from tourism, they don't seem to like tourists very much. From: P. J. Alling 15 Years ago I got the impression that the situation in France was pretty

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use, (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-30 Thread Philip Northeast
It seems strange for a country that gave us Henri Cartier-Bresson - the master of candid street photography Philip Northeast www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au On 1/12/11 10:51 AM, John Sessoms wrote: I think that's been the *LAW* in France since around 2004. Maybe before that it was just custom.

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-30 Thread Stan Halpin
On Nov 30, 2011, at 12:59 AM, Brian Walters wrote: On Tuesday, November 29, 2011 9:43 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: In Australia someplace (Sydney maybe, or was it Melbourne?) I recall coming across a street art fair. One painter had a handwritten sign on his booth:

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use, (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-30 Thread Mark C
I caught a bit of an interview on NPR's Fresh AIr show today about privacy rights. Two random thoughts: 1. The interviewee commented that Europe was much more aggressive about protecting the rights of the person to their own image, where the US is more laissez-faire. (Ironic that it takes a

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use, (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-30 Thread Christine Aguila
On Nov 30, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Philip Northeast rnort...@bigpond.net.au wrote: It seems strange for a country that gave us Henri Cartier-Bresson - the master of candid street photography I've always thought the same thing. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-30 Thread Brian Walters
On Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:13 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Nov 30, 2011, at 12:59 AM, Brian Walters wrote: On Tuesday, November 29, 2011 9:43 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: In Australia someplace (Sydney maybe, or was it Melbourne?) I

[All countries ] Street shooting and Image use (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-29 Thread Thibouille
The teacher asked to do some work about a legal issue concerning legal rights of photographs use. As he showed us a couple short movies on the topic and because I believe that street shooting is indeed a fundamental of photography, I'd like to know: * the status of street shooting in your

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Street photography has been controversial in the USA since Robert Frank published The Americans in the late 1950s. It has ridden a roller coaster of acceptability and legal permissions/legal challenges on the basis of invasion of privacy, national security, popular opinion, etc etc ever since. The

RE: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-29 Thread John Sessoms
From: Thibouille The teacher asked to do some work about a legal issue concerning legal rights of photographs use. As he showed us a couple short movies on the topic and because I believe that street shooting is indeed a fundamental of photography, I'd like to know: * the status of street

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-29 Thread Paul Sorenson
Although I haven't heard *too* much about restrictions here in Wisconsin, I have a tendency to agree with John...There are a lot of people who think they know the law and bellow about restricting where you can take pictures and who you can photograph. One thing I find ludicrous, though, is

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
ignorant officious assholes ... I like it! I'll write a macro for my editor. ;-) I remember the security guard at Museo de Orsay (forgive my spelling ...) in Paris telling me that I couldn't use my Leica. I then pulled out my Minox C and asked if I could photograph them ... and they said sure! So

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-29 Thread P. J. Alling
It's a bit higher threshold for the shooter. Taking a photograph of a legislator being a fool is easier on the photographer than filling one full of lead, no matter how richly deserved. On 11/29/2011 4:22 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: Although I haven't heard *too* much about restrictions here in

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-29 Thread Cotty
On 29/11/11, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: I remember the security guard at Museo de Orsay (forgive my spelling ...) in Paris telling me that I couldn't use my Leica. I then pulled out my Minox C and asked if I could photograph them ... and they said sure! So I took all my photos

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-29 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2011-11-29 16:22, Paul Sorenson wrote: John, do you have a plug-in that will automatically enter ignorant officious assholes so you don't have to keep typing all those letters? *(VBG)* Time for another acronym: IOA. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-29 Thread Philip Northeast
One of the problems in Australia, and other countries with a Federal system of government, is the conflict between state and national(Commonwealth) laws. So this applies particularly to Tasmania, an Australian state. Privacy laws apply to information, so medical records and other personal

RE: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-29 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Thibouille The teacher asked to do some work about a legal issue concerning legal rights of photographs use. As he showed us a couple short movies on the topic and because I believe that

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-29 Thread Mark C
I believe that the general rule in the USA is that you can take a photo in any public place of anyone but you cannot use an image of someone commercially without their consent. You *can* use the photo for journalistic, editorial or artistic purposes. Public BTW mean owned by the government -

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-29 Thread P. J. Alling
True enough, though theoretically public means owned by the public, places actually owned by the government are different. A small but important distinction. On 11/29/2011 7:08 PM, Mark C wrote: I believe that the general rule in the USA is that you can take a photo in any public place of

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-29 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: I believe that the general rule in the USA is that you can take a photo in any public place of anyone but you cannot use an image of someone commercially without their consent. You *can* use the photo for journalistic,  

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-29 Thread Stan Halpin
Two small hopefully illustrative vignettes: a. The town where I now live has a park on a small knoll which overlooks the cooling pond for a power generation plant; also spread out for view is a portion of Dow Chemical's home facilities (offices, processing, etc.)

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-29 Thread Christine Aguila
Great story, Cotty! Read it to Darrel, and he giggled as well! Cheers, Christine On Nov 29, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 29/11/11, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: I remember the security guard at Museo de Orsay (forgive my spelling ...) in Paris

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-29 Thread Stan Halpin
In Australia someplace (Sydney maybe, or was it Melbourne?) I recall coming across a street art fair. One painter had a handwritten sign on his booth: Please - No Photographs! I passed him by, noting the suspicious glare he gave to my two Pentax DSLR's. Fifty meters or so down the street I took

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-29 Thread Brian Walters
On Tuesday, November 29, 2011 9:43 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: In Australia someplace (Sydney maybe, or was it Melbourne?) I recall coming across a street art fair. One painter had a handwritten sign on his booth: Please - No Photographs! I passed him by, noting the

Re: [All countries ] Street shooting and Image use (legal/rights) influence

2011-11-29 Thread Brian Walters
As an addendum to Philip's reply, this Information Sheet - Street Photographer's Rights - might be useful. It was compiled by the Arts Law Centre of Australia: http://www.artslaw.com.au/info-sheets/info-sheet/street-photographers-rights/ Cheers Brian ++ Brian