Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-30 Thread kwaller
My Spotmatic was purchased by a buddy in 1968 in Viet Nam for $89.00 USD = $589 in todays manoply money. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com Subject: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-26 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Sep 25, 2012, at 21:40 , John Francis wrote: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:42:00AM +1000, Brian Walters wrote: PS. I've still got a few film cameras and most still work. Actually Steve's given me the germ of an idea - perhaps we should have a special PUG in 2014 to celebrate the

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-26 Thread Derby Chang
Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ --- Original Message --- From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras... Steven Desjardins wrote: OTOH, you can

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-26 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au: Good idea, Brian, I'd for one would be up for a Day in a life of Spottie, I should exercise mine more. 2014 does seem a long way away, though. True, 1964 was when the Spot-Matic was first presented. But then Asahiflex was first released in 1952,

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-26 Thread Peter Jordan
OTOH, I shot 1200 frames last weekend, mainly of empty air where hummingbirds had just been. That's 33 rolls of film which at say $10 for film plus DP would have been a good chunk of change. Peter On 25 Sep 2012, at 13:15, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: A Pentax Spotmatic

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-26 Thread Postmaster
Peter Jordan wrote: OTOH, I shot 1200 frames last weekend, mainly of empty air where hummingbirds had just been. That's 33 rolls of film which at say $10 for film plus DP would have been a good chunk of change. It occurred to me recently that a lot of people could use memory cards just once -

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-26 Thread Peter Jordan
The other thing that struck me when I both this humungous 64GB card was that it offered 1800 shots in Raw. My first thought was who on earth would want to take that many shots in a session, but after my day birding Texas, it does make more sense. I even managed some Cormorant shots!! Peter

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-26 Thread John Sessoms
From: John Francis On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:42:00AM +1000, Brian Walters wrote: PS. I've still got a few film cameras and most still work. Actually Steve's given me the germ of an idea - perhaps we should have a special PUG in 2014 to celebrate the Spotmatic's 50th Anniversary (assuming you

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-26 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Peter Jordan pjp...@btinternet.com wrote: OTOH, I shot 1200 frames last weekend, mainly of empty air where hummingbirds had just been. Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-26 Thread Doug Brewer
On 9/26/12 7:45 AM, Peter Jordan wrote: OTOH, I shot 1200 frames last weekend, mainly of empty air where hummingbirds had just been. You would have fit right in with many other entrants in this last spring's contest at the GFM Nature Photo Weekend. There were a whole pile of photos of

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-26 Thread mike wilson
On 25/09/2012 14:15, Mark Roberts wrote: A Pentax Spotmatic cost $289.00 in 1967. According to http://www.usinflationcalculator.com that works out to be $1,993.00 in today's money. From the same source a 1986 LX (body only at UK price but US currency) would be $8407.99. -- No fixed Adobe

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-26 Thread Bruce Walker
Looks like I could have bought an iPod in 1975 for $46. Damn! Wish I'd known that then. On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: A Pentax Spotmatic cost $289.00 in 1967. According to http://www.usinflationcalculator.com that works out to be $1,993.00 in

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-26 Thread William Robb
On 26/09/2012 6:03 AM, Postmaster wrote: It occurred to me recently that a lot of people could use memory cards just once - never delete images and when the card is full simply buy a new one - and still spend less than they would on film/processing for the same number of shots. Amazing how far

RE: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-26 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson On 25/09/2012 14:15, Mark Roberts wrote: A Pentax Spotmatic cost $289.00 in 1967. According to http://www.usinflationcalculator.com that works out to be $1,993.00 in today's money. From the same

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-26 Thread mike wilson
On 26/09/2012 20:42, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson On 25/09/2012 14:15, Mark Roberts wrote: A Pentax Spotmatic cost $289.00 in 1967. According to http://www.usinflationcalculator.com that works out to be $1,993.00 in today's

About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts
A Pentax Spotmatic cost $289.00 in 1967. According to http://www.usinflationcalculator.com that works out to be $1,993.00 in today's money. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread Stan Halpin
And in those days you had to provide your own sensor! stan On Sep 25, 2012, at 8:15 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: A Pentax Spotmatic cost $289.00 in 1967. According to http://www.usinflationcalculator.com that works out to be $1,993.00 in today's money. -- Mark Roberts - Photography

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread Doug Brewer
On 9/25/12 8:32 AM, Stan Halpin wrote: And in those days you had to provide your own sensor! stan and keep replacing it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Stan Halpin wrote: On Sep 25, 2012, at 8:15 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: A Pentax Spotmatic cost $289.00 in 1967. According to http://www.usinflationcalculator.com that works out to be $1,993.00 in today's money. And in those days you had to provide your own sensor! And replace it regularly.

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread David Parsons
Ctein did a similar comparison when the 645D was announced, and the price was very close when adjusted for inflation. On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: A Pentax Spotmatic cost $289.00 in 1967. According to http://www.usinflationcalculator.com that

RE: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread John Sessoms
From: Mark Roberts A Pentax Spotmatic cost $289.00 in 1967. According to http://www.usinflationcalculator.com that works out to be $1,993.00 in today's money. And I'd be making $25.00 an hour. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com: Stan Halpin wrote: On Sep 25, 2012, at 8:15 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: A Pentax Spotmatic cost $289.00 in 1967. According to http://www.usinflationcalculator.com that works out to be $1,993.00 in today's money. And in those days you had to

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
OTOH, you can always upgrade the latest sensor. A body would also be good for 10 years. On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com: Stan Halpin wrote: On Sep 25, 2012, at 8:15 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: A

RE: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread John Coyle
-Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steven Desjardins Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2012 7:00 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras... OTOH, you can always upgrade the latest sensor

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Steven Desjardins wrote: OTOH, you can always upgrade the latest sensor. Not only *can* you upgrade the sensor, sometimes you're *forced* to. Whether you want to or not. Even if the upgrade is really *worse* than it's predecessor (in your opinion, which is really all that matters). Sometimes

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
These days your sensor selection is limited, but I plan to put a roll through my SP500 when it turns 40 in 2014. On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Steven Desjardins wrote: OTOH, you can always upgrade the latest sensor. Not only *can* you upgrade

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
$2000.00 full-frame cameras... Steven Desjardins wrote: OTOH, you can always upgrade the latest sensor. Not only *can* you upgrade the sensor, sometimes you're *forced* to. Whether you want to or not. Even if the upgrade is really *worse* than it's predecessor (in your opinion, which is really all

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread Brian Walters
/southernlight/ --- Original Message --- From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras... Steven Desjardins wrote: OTOH, you can always upgrade the latest sensor

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org Sent: September 25, 2012 9/25/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras... Quoting knarftheria...@gmail.com: I've got an MX

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras... Quoting knarftheria...@gmail.com: I've got an MX that still works just fine (except the meter is pooched). I've got an SP500 (stripped down budget Spotmatic) that still functions perfectly. Two Spotmatics

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread Tom C
Mark, You've made my day! The $3299.99 I'm spending on a D800E is only $478.43 in 1967 dollars. What a deal!!! Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow

Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

2012-09-25 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:42:00AM +1000, Brian Walters wrote: PS. I've still got a few film cameras and most still work. Actually Steve's given me the germ of an idea - perhaps we should have a special PUG in 2014 to celebrate the Spotmatic's 50th Anniversary (assuming you can still buy