Re: Another lightroom redo
> On Feb 17, 2024, at 5:08 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: > > Either the middle or bottom image works for me, although of the two I'd > prefer the bottom. Either of the two has a more defined horizon and I prefer > the more defined trees (?) in the lower right of the bottom image as compared > to the less defined in the middle image. -p Thanks, the bottom one was my final go at it. I thought the first one was it, then saw some things to fix, and after a while saw a few more things and did the third.It's getting to the point that my computer is really starting to bog down, so I ought to call it done, at least until I get a faster machine :-) > > On 2/17/2024 3:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> Flickr is being a PITA, so I posted my last rework to google photos >> >> https://photos.app.goo.gl/2Xmnhva9QoBupGf58 >> >> Previous attempts are here: >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720314781277 >> >> Thoughts? Feelings? Suggestions? >> >> >> >> > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com. sent from Mirkwood -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another lightroom redo
Either the middle or bottom image works for me, although of the two I'd prefer the bottom. Either of the two has a more defined horizon and I prefer the more defined trees (?) in the lower right of the bottom image as compared to the less defined in the middle image. -p On 2/17/2024 3:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Flickr is being a PITA, so I posted my last rework to google photos https://photos.app.goo.gl/2Xmnhva9QoBupGf58 Previous attempts are here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720314781277 Thoughts? Feelings? Suggestions? -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another lightroom redo
Flickr is being a PITA, so I posted my last rework to google photos https://photos.app.goo.gl/2Xmnhva9QoBupGf58 Previous attempts are here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720314781277 Thoughts? Feelings? Suggestions? > On Feb 16, 2024, at 11:46 PM, mike wilson wrote: > > I don't disagree with the overspiced evaluation but the other doesn't even > have salt and pepper. Definitely more on the foreground but not so much as > the before image, which does seem to have an artefact at the junction of land > and sky. The sky is possibly better in the new version (in that it is more > realistic - I don't know, as I was not there) but that is arguably a matter > of taste. >> On 16/02/2024 18:00 GMT Larry Colen w rote: >> >> >> Interesting. Thank you people. I had felt that in general the first >> version was a bit "over spiced". I'm trying to find the right balance >> between making the image pop, and overdoing it. If you look at other photos >> in the collection, there is a lot of light pollution close to the horizon, >> and when saturation and vibrance are dialed up a lot of swatches of green >> and magenta noise in the sky in general. >> >> The new version of lightroom does make it easier for me to duplicate and >> modify masks, so when I get a chance, I can try a version with more >> saturation, contrast and clarity in the milky way. >> >> Is there consensus that I should also bring up the exposure on the >> foreground? I did create a mask for the snow on mount Shasta, which I had >> dialed down a bit from the previous print. >> >>Larry >> >> >>> On Feb 16, 2024, at 9:09 AM, Paul Sorenson >>> wrote: >>> >>> I'd have to agree with Mike - the 889-pano is more pleasing to me than >>> NR-HDR-Pano. The milky way is better rendered and being able to better see >>> the horizon and landscape add to be overall image. >>> >>> -p >>> >>> >>> 89888-Enhanced-NR-HDR-Pano >>> >>> On 2/16/2024 2:28 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I decided to have a go at another one of my photos, trying to take advantage of new features in lightroom. It is an HDR panorama (at 15 and 20 seconds). For the new version I did a lightroom noise reduction of each of the frames before doing an HDR pano stitch. I believe this is my previous version that I used for printing: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30524911188/in/album-72177720314781277/ This one is my current "best try": https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53532544424/in/album-72177720314781277/ I've learned a fair bit about using masks in the process. All of my processing attempts over the years are in this album: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720314781277/with/42907311702 I would appreciate people's thoughts about what improvements the processing might need. Is there anything about any of the older attempts that worked better? Thanks, Larry -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com. sent from Mirkwood -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email topdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. >>> -- >>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >> >> -- >> Larry Colen >> l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est >> >> >> >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com. sent from Mirkwood -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another lightroom redo
I don't disagree with the overspiced evaluation but the other doesn't even have salt and pepper. Definitely more on the foreground but not so much as the before image, which does seem to have an artefact at the junction of land and sky. The sky is possibly better in the new version (in that it is more realistic - I don't know, as I was not there) but that is arguably a matter of taste. > On 16/02/2024 18:00 GMT Larry Colen w rote: > > > Interesting. Thank you people. I had felt that in general the first version > was a bit "over spiced". I'm trying to find the right balance between making > the image pop, and overdoing it. If you look at other photos in the > collection, there is a lot of light pollution close to the horizon, and when > saturation and vibrance are dialed up a lot of swatches of green and magenta > noise in the sky in general. > > The new version of lightroom does make it easier for me to duplicate and > modify masks, so when I get a chance, I can try a version with more > saturation, contrast and clarity in the milky way. > > Is there consensus that I should also bring up the exposure on the > foreground? I did create a mask for the snow on mount Shasta, which I had > dialed down a bit from the previous print. > > Larry > > > > On Feb 16, 2024, at 9:09 AM, Paul Sorenson > > wrote: > > > > I'd have to agree with Mike - the 889-pano is more pleasing to me than > > NR-HDR-Pano. The milky way is better rendered and being able to better see > > the horizon and landscape add to be overall image. > > > > -p > > > > > > 89888-Enhanced-NR-HDR-Pano > > > > On 2/16/2024 2:28 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > >> I decided to have a go at another one of my photos, trying to take > >> advantage of new features in lightroom. It is an HDR panorama (at 15 and > >> 20 seconds). For the new version I did a lightroom noise reduction of > >> each of the frames before doing an HDR pano stitch. > >> > >> I believe this is my previous version that I used for printing: > >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30524911188/in/album-72177720314781277/ > >> > >> This one is my current "best try": > >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53532544424/in/album-72177720314781277/ > >> I've learned a fair bit about using masks in the process. > >> > >> All of my processing attempts over the years are in this album: > >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720314781277/with/42907311702 > >> > >> I would appreciate people's thoughts about what improvements the > >> processing might need. Is there anything about any of the older attempts > >> that worked better? > >> > >> Thanks, > >>Larry > >> -- > >> Larry Colen > >> l...@red4est.com. sent from Mirkwood > >> > >> > >> -- > >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> To unsubscribe send an email topdml-le...@pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > >> follow the directions. > >> > > -- > > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > > > > -- > Larry Colen > l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est > > > > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another lightroom redo
> On Feb 16, 2024, at 10:15 AM, Alan C wrote: > > I couldn't see flying saucers on any of them! No flying saucers that I know of, just Andromeda and Mars. > > Alan C > > On 16-Feb-24 08:00 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> Interesting. Thank you people. I had felt that in general the first >> version was a bit "over spiced". I'm trying to find the right balance >> between making the image pop, and overdoing it. If you look at other photos >> in the collection, there is a lot of light pollution close to the horizon, >> and when saturation and vibrance are dialed up a lot of swatches of green >> and magenta noise in the sky in general. >> >> The new version of lightroom does make it easier for me to duplicate and >> modify masks, so when I get a chance, I can try a version with more >> saturation, contrast and clarity in the milky way. >> >> Is there consensus that I should also bring up the exposure on the >> foreground? I did create a mask for the snow on mount Shasta, which I had >> dialed down a bit from the previous print. >> >> Larry >> >> >>> On Feb 16, 2024, at 9:09 AM, Paul Sorenson >>> wrote: >>> >>> I'd have to agree with Mike - the 889-pano is more pleasing to me than >>> NR-HDR-Pano. The milky way is better rendered and being able to better see >>> the horizon and landscape add to be overall image. >>> >>> -p >>> >>> >>> 89888-Enhanced-NR-HDR-Pano >>> >>> On 2/16/2024 2:28 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I decided to have a go at another one of my photos, trying to take advantage of new features in lightroom. It is an HDR panorama (at 15 and 20 seconds). For the new version I did a lightroom noise reduction of each of the frames before doing an HDR pano stitch. I believe this is my previous version that I used for printing: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30524911188/in/album-72177720314781277/ This one is my current "best try": https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53532544424/in/album-72177720314781277/ I've learned a fair bit about using masks in the process. All of my processing attempts over the years are in this album: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720314781277/with/42907311702 I would appreciate people's thoughts about what improvements the processing might need. Is there anything about any of the older attempts that worked better? Thanks, Larry -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com. sent from Mirkwood -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email topdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. >>> -- >>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >> -- >> Larry Colen >> l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est >> >> >> >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another lightroom redo
I couldn't see flying saucers on any of them! Alan C On 16-Feb-24 08:00 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Interesting. Thank you people. I had felt that in general the first version was a bit "over spiced". I'm trying to find the right balance between making the image pop, and overdoing it. If you look at other photos in the collection, there is a lot of light pollution close to the horizon, and when saturation and vibrance are dialed up a lot of swatches of green and magenta noise in the sky in general. The new version of lightroom does make it easier for me to duplicate and modify masks, so when I get a chance, I can try a version with more saturation, contrast and clarity in the milky way. Is there consensus that I should also bring up the exposure on the foreground? I did create a mask for the snow on mount Shasta, which I had dialed down a bit from the previous print. Larry On Feb 16, 2024, at 9:09 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: I'd have to agree with Mike - the 889-pano is more pleasing to me than NR-HDR-Pano. The milky way is better rendered and being able to better see the horizon and landscape add to be overall image. -p 89888-Enhanced-NR-HDR-Pano On 2/16/2024 2:28 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I decided to have a go at another one of my photos, trying to take advantage of new features in lightroom. It is an HDR panorama (at 15 and 20 seconds). For the new version I did a lightroom noise reduction of each of the frames before doing an HDR pano stitch. I believe this is my previous version that I used for printing: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30524911188/in/album-72177720314781277/ This one is my current "best try": https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53532544424/in/album-72177720314781277/ I've learned a fair bit about using masks in the process. All of my processing attempts over the years are in this album: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720314781277/with/42907311702 I would appreciate people's thoughts about what improvements the processing might need. Is there anything about any of the older attempts that worked better? Thanks, Larry -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com. sent from Mirkwood -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email topdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another lightroom redo
Interesting. Thank you people. I had felt that in general the first version was a bit "over spiced". I'm trying to find the right balance between making the image pop, and overdoing it. If you look at other photos in the collection, there is a lot of light pollution close to the horizon, and when saturation and vibrance are dialed up a lot of swatches of green and magenta noise in the sky in general. The new version of lightroom does make it easier for me to duplicate and modify masks, so when I get a chance, I can try a version with more saturation, contrast and clarity in the milky way. Is there consensus that I should also bring up the exposure on the foreground? I did create a mask for the snow on mount Shasta, which I had dialed down a bit from the previous print. Larry > On Feb 16, 2024, at 9:09 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: > > I'd have to agree with Mike - the 889-pano is more pleasing to me than > NR-HDR-Pano. The milky way is better rendered and being able to better see > the horizon and landscape add to be overall image. > > -p > > > 89888-Enhanced-NR-HDR-Pano > > On 2/16/2024 2:28 AM, Larry Colen wrote: >> I decided to have a go at another one of my photos, trying to take advantage >> of new features in lightroom. It is an HDR panorama (at 15 and 20 seconds). >> For the new version I did a lightroom noise reduction of each of the frames >> before doing an HDR pano stitch. >> >> I believe this is my previous version that I used for printing: >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30524911188/in/album-72177720314781277/ >> >> This one is my current "best try": >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53532544424/in/album-72177720314781277/ >> I've learned a fair bit about using masks in the process. >> >> All of my processing attempts over the years are in this album: >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720314781277/with/42907311702 >> >> I would appreciate people's thoughts about what improvements the processing >> might need. Is there anything about any of the older attempts that worked >> better? >> >> Thanks, >>Larry >> -- >> Larry Colen >> l...@red4est.com. sent from Mirkwood >> >> >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email topdml-le...@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another lightroom redo
I'd have to agree with Mike - the 889-pano is more pleasing to me than NR-HDR-Pano. The milky way is better rendered and being able to better see the horizon and landscape add to be overall image. -p 89888-Enhanced-NR-HDR-Pano On 2/16/2024 2:28 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I decided to have a go at another one of my photos, trying to take advantage of new features in lightroom. It is an HDR panorama (at 15 and 20 seconds). For the new version I did a lightroom noise reduction of each of the frames before doing an HDR pano stitch. I believe this is my previous version that I used for printing: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30524911188/in/album-72177720314781277/ This one is my current "best try": https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53532544424/in/album-72177720314781277/ I've learned a fair bit about using masks in the process. All of my processing attempts over the years are in this album: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720314781277/with/42907311702 I would appreciate people's thoughts about what improvements the processing might need. Is there anything about any of the older attempts that worked better? Thanks, Larry -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com. sent from Mirkwood -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email topdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another lightroom redo
Are you sure you got those the right way round? For me, the previous attempt is head and shoulders better than the present version. > On 16/02/2024 08:28 GMT Larry Colen wrote: > > > I decided to have a go at another one of my photos, trying to take advantage > of new features in lightroom. It is an HDR panorama (at 15 and 20 seconds). > For the new version I did a lightroom noise reduction of each of the frames > before doing an HDR pano stitch. > > I believe this is my previous version that I used for printing: > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30524911188/in/album-72177720314781277/ > > This one is my current "best try": > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53532544424/in/album-72177720314781277/ > I've learned a fair bit about using masks in the process. > > All of my processing attempts over the years are in this album: > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720314781277/with/42907311702 > > I would appreciate people's thoughts about what improvements the processing > might need. Is there anything about any of the older attempts that worked > better? -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Another lightroom redo
I decided to have a go at another one of my photos, trying to take advantage of new features in lightroom. It is an HDR panorama (at 15 and 20 seconds). For the new version I did a lightroom noise reduction of each of the frames before doing an HDR pano stitch. I believe this is my previous version that I used for printing: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30524911188/in/album-72177720314781277/ This one is my current "best try": https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/53532544424/in/album-72177720314781277/ I've learned a fair bit about using masks in the process. All of my processing attempts over the years are in this album: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720314781277/with/42907311702 I would appreciate people's thoughts about what improvements the processing might need. Is there anything about any of the older attempts that worked better? Thanks, Larry -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com. sent from Mirkwood -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
