Re: Curious ...
Very late reply: I have, but the results were not very good. NOT a fault with the camera, but with the brain behind the eye behind the viewfinder. On 6/28/2023 9:29 AM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: Anyone here EVER use the double-exposure capacity of the LX? I always thought it was cool, but never needed it so never got one. (The only other PK body I’ve seen with double-exposure is that Promaster 2500 PK) -- -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Curious ...
The K2 method is no different than any other camera with a rewind button on the bottom. The LX was clearly special. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Curious ...
I vaguely remember trying it a couple of times back in the 80's -I mostly did double exposures in the darkroom. ann On 6/28/2023 3:52 PM, John Sessoms wrote: I've used it. It worked in so far as the frames lined up properly. On 6/28/2023 9:29 AM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: Anyone here EVER use the double-exposure capacity of the LX? I always thought it was cool, but never needed it so never got one. (The only other PK body I’ve seen with double-exposure is that Promaster 2500 PK) -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Curious ...
Pretty sure the K2 could do it too. I remember using it once. Cheers, Dave > On Jun 29, 2023, at 1:29 AM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: > > Anyone here EVER use the double-exposure capacity of the LX? > > I always thought it was cool, but never needed it so never got one. > > (The only other PK body I’ve seen with double-exposure is that Promaster 2500 > PK) > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Curious ...
I've used it. It worked in so far as the frames lined up properly. On 6/28/2023 9:29 AM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: Anyone here EVER use the double-exposure capacity of the LX? I always thought it was cool, but never needed it so never got one. (The only other PK body I’ve seen with double-exposure is that Promaster 2500 PK) -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Curious ...
Anyone here EVER use the double-exposure capacity of the LX? I always thought it was cool, but never needed it so never got one. (The only other PK body I’ve seen with double-exposure is that Promaster 2500 PK) -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: for Ann: Photographer Spots Curious Coincidences on New York City Sidewalks
Fun stuff. Thanks for sharing! > On Nov 17, 2021, at 2:40 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > > This guy sure has the EYE! > > Ken Waller > -Original Message- > From: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Sent: Nov 17, 2021 2:23 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: for Ann: Photographer Spots Curious Coincidences on New York City > Sidewalks > > https://petapixel.com/2021/11/17/photographer-spots-curious-coincidences-on-new-york-city-sidewalks/ > > Have fun! > > Henk > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > > > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: for Ann: Photographer Spots Curious Coincidences on New York City Sidewalks
John - do read my post.on the subject . it should be just after yours.. :-) ann On 11/17/2021 2:54 PM, John Sessoms wrote: "a striking occurrence of two or more events at one time apparently by mere chance:" The photographer applied his skills to capturing images of UN-related events that visually coincide, but if the "events" hadn't been there in the first place ... Maybe "juxtaposition" would be a better word, but I think "coincidence" does work for the subject matter. On 11/17/2021 2:36 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: That is a very interesting and effective group of images. I have seen -- and admired -- Kogan's work previously. It is hardly fair to call these photographs "Curious Coincidences on New York City Sidewalks." With one or two possible exceptions, they are not scenes that were simply there to be seen, but carefully composed images created out of the photographer's imaginative use of interesting items he observed and then assembled, with the use of timing and angle of view, to create something much more that was there by "coincidence." Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery <https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery>* On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 2:23 PM Henk Terhell wrote: https://petapixel.com/2021/11/17/photographer-spots-curious-coincidences-on-new-york-city-sidewalks/ Have fun! Henk -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: for Ann: Photographer Spots Curious Coincidences on New York City Sidewalks
These are definitely my kinda thing - I'd loved to have captured any - even the intentional visual jokes.. However, the write of the article doesn't know the meaning of the word "coincidence" - these photos are all -ironic juxtaposition - also sometimes called "visual puns" .. not really coincidences. but what is coincidental is that you posted this the day after there was an odd coincidence in my life relating to Mark C's Peso called Water Music... so list related in a way.. I wrote him off list , and sent him the link to one of the items I'm selling on my creative Photo calendars site (and it is on cafepress marketplace too) some of you have seen it.. but the link I sent Mark was directly to the individual listing. The item is a t-shirt with the notation of the first bar or two of Handel's "Water Music" as a design with the quote "I go for baroque" worked in to it. Mark quipped back a bit later showing he recognized what it was. A few hours later I was checking my reports on my STORE on CPC and at the top of the list of items sold was the very T-shirt I sent Mark the link to. In (gasp) a size 3xL Naturally, I wrote to him "Coincidence or...?" wondering if he had a large friend who liked Handel or had grown a lot himself. Nope- neither were true. Now THAT is a coincidence ! All I know is that the person who ordered it was no one I know either - one Barbara F. Coincidence and mystery.. and likewise you posting an article titled "coincidence" just after this happened and directing it to me. what fun! ann . On 11/17/2021 2:23 PM, Henk Terhell wrote: https://petapixel.com/2021/11/17/photographer-spots-curious-coincidences-on-new-york-city-sidewalks/ Have fun! Henk -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: for Ann: Photographer Spots Curious Coincidences on New York City Sidewalks
"a striking occurrence of two or more events at one time apparently by mere chance:" The photographer applied his skills to capturing images of UN-related events that visually coincide, but if the "events" hadn't been there in the first place ... Maybe "juxtaposition" would be a better word, but I think "coincidence" does work for the subject matter. On 11/17/2021 2:36 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: That is a very interesting and effective group of images. I have seen -- and admired -- Kogan's work previously. It is hardly fair to call these photographs "Curious Coincidences on New York City Sidewalks." With one or two possible exceptions, they are not scenes that were simply there to be seen, but carefully composed images created out of the photographer's imaginative use of interesting items he observed and then assembled, with the use of timing and angle of view, to create something much more that was there by "coincidence." Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery <https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery>* On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 2:23 PM Henk Terhell wrote: https://petapixel.com/2021/11/17/photographer-spots-curious-coincidences-on-new-york-city-sidewalks/ Have fun! Henk -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: for Ann: Photographer Spots Curious Coincidences on New York City Sidewalks
That is a very interesting and effective group of images. I have seen -- and admired -- Kogan's work previously. It is hardly fair to call these photographs "Curious Coincidences on New York City Sidewalks." With one or two possible exceptions, they are not scenes that were simply there to be seen, but carefully composed images created out of the photographer's imaginative use of interesting items he observed and then assembled, with the use of timing and angle of view, to create something much more that was there by "coincidence." Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery <https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery>* On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 2:23 PM Henk Terhell wrote: > > https://petapixel.com/2021/11/17/photographer-spots-curious-coincidences-on-new-york-city-sidewalks/ > > Have fun! > > Henk > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
for Ann: Photographer Spots Curious Coincidences on New York City Sidewalks
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Re: Curious DemSelfies :-)
Maybe staged (posed?) somehow rather than photoshopped? On 11/9/2021 2:22 AM, Toine wrote: First guess would be a lucky shot. In his collection I see many more damselflies posing in groups. He must have found a way to enforce lucky shots... On Tue, 9 Nov 2021, 00:48 Igor PDML-StR, wrote: Well, not quite that spelling, but I couldn't resist. :-) https://seuppcdn01.1x.com/images/user/5dcd47081982253f66cc064214a9c63c-hd4.jpg And the photographer, Abdul Gapur Dayak, - has a rather interesting collection: https://1x.com/photo/2070376 I am not sure if these photos are photoshopped (to the extent of combining two different photos in one) - it is a bit hard to believe you can actually have these creatures "posing" like that - right around the leaf edge, but ... maybe? What do you think? Igor -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Curious DemSelfies :-)
First guess would be a lucky shot. In his collection I see many more damselflies posing in groups. He must have found a way to enforce lucky shots... On Tue, 9 Nov 2021, 00:48 Igor PDML-StR, wrote: > > > Well, not quite that spelling, but I couldn't resist. :-) > > https://seuppcdn01.1x.com/images/user/5dcd47081982253f66cc064214a9c63c-hd4.jpg > > And the photographer, Abdul Gapur Dayak, - has a rather interesting > collection: > https://1x.com/photo/2070376 > > I am not sure if these photos are photoshopped (to the extent of combining > two different photos in one) - it is a bit hard to believe you can > actually have these creatures "posing" like that - right around the leaf > edge, but ... maybe? > > What do you think? > > Igor > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Curious DemSelfies :-)
Well, not quite that spelling, but I couldn't resist. :-) https://seuppcdn01.1x.com/images/user/5dcd47081982253f66cc064214a9c63c-hd4.jpg And the photographer, Abdul Gapur Dayak, - has a rather interesting collection: https://1x.com/photo/2070376 I am not sure if these photos are photoshopped (to the extent of combining two different photos in one) - it is a bit hard to believe you can actually have these creatures "posing" like that - right around the leaf edge, but ... maybe? What do you think? Igor -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - "2x2 = 4to" (plus some curious engineering facts)
I don't really deserve thanks, I commented on a comment, not on the image. Which is very nice by the way. I think the title should be "Youth and Vanity vs Age and Acceptance". Not that the younger woman is vain exactly, but she is certainly aware of her attractiveness. On 11/7/2016 8:51 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Thank you, Larry, Malcolm, P.J., Marco, John, and John-wherever-you-are-now for looking and commenting! ;-) I am back home from the last week's conference travel, - and by this time, people may have figured out that this picture has been taken at "GUM" - "Upper Trading Rows", and iconic store in Moscow, Russia: http://pug.komkon.org/16nov/slides/IR-%20IconicPlaces-Igor_IR34361.html I am not sure if anybody read the Wikipedia linked below that image: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUM_%28department_store%29 It is a historic building with the first of its kind (at the time it was built - more than a century ago) engineering design. Yet another structure built by the same engineer is the hyperboloid "Shukhov tower": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shukhov_Tower (on the UNESCO's "Endangered Buildings" list). Unfortunately, I don't have any of my own photos of it. A few interesting engineering facts about it: Shukhov invented hyperboloid towers (Patent of 1899, applied 1896). The original design called for 350 meters height, and that would weigh 2200 tons (metric). For comparison, Eiffel Tower (324 meters) weighs over 10 000 tons. Due to the shortage of steel, Shukhov's tower is only 160-meters tall. Based on this idea, in 2005-2009, a 600-meter-high hyperboloid Canton tower was built in Guangzhou, China. (For a brief moment it was the tallest tower in the world, taking over that title from the CN Tower in Toronto.) A curious fact: In 1941, a postal airplane that was expriencing technical problems, touched with its wing the cable that was going from the top of the tower to the ground (at an angle), - a leftover from the construction, which was hanging there for several years since the tower was built. That torn off the winch that was at the ground end, but the tower remained intact and did not need any repairs. The plane crashed into the nearby house's yard. Cheers, Igor On Thu, 3 Nov 2016, Igor PDML-StR wrote: "Oops, I did it again!" ;-) Thank you, Larry. For you others who still cannot read URLs through the brain-wave channel: http://42graphy.org/galleries/2016-08-05-RedSquare/_IR34357.html Cheers, Igor On Thu, 3 Nov 2016, Igor PDML-StR wrote: "2x2 = 4to" Just a fun shot. This photo is taken at an iconic place... The photo in the PUG will be the clue of where this happened. All comments and suggestions are welcome. Igor PS. I am aware of the boy and his leg. There was no opportunity/time to move to the side and "hide" him behind the man. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - "2x2 = 4to" (plus some curious engineering facts)
Thank you, Larry, Malcolm, P.J., Marco, John, and John-wherever-you-are-now for looking and commenting! ;-) I am back home from the last week's conference travel, - and by this time, people may have figured out that this picture has been taken at "GUM" - "Upper Trading Rows", and iconic store in Moscow, Russia: http://pug.komkon.org/16nov/slides/IR-%20IconicPlaces-Igor_IR34361.html I am not sure if anybody read the Wikipedia linked below that image: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUM_%28department_store%29 It is a historic building with the first of its kind (at the time it was built - more than a century ago) engineering design. Yet another structure built by the same engineer is the hyperboloid "Shukhov tower": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shukhov_Tower (on the UNESCO's "Endangered Buildings" list). Unfortunately, I don't have any of my own photos of it. A few interesting engineering facts about it: Shukhov invented hyperboloid towers (Patent of 1899, applied 1896). The original design called for 350 meters height, and that would weigh 2200 tons (metric). For comparison, Eiffel Tower (324 meters) weighs over 10 000 tons. Due to the shortage of steel, Shukhov's tower is only 160-meters tall. Based on this idea, in 2005-2009, a 600-meter-high hyperboloid Canton tower was built in Guangzhou, China. (For a brief moment it was the tallest tower in the world, taking over that title from the CN Tower in Toronto.) A curious fact: In 1941, a postal airplane that was expriencing technical problems, touched with its wing the cable that was going from the top of the tower to the ground (at an angle), - a leftover from the construction, which was hanging there for several years since the tower was built. That torn off the winch that was at the ground end, but the tower remained intact and did not need any repairs. The plane crashed into the nearby house's yard. Cheers, Igor On Thu, 3 Nov 2016, Igor PDML-StR wrote: "Oops, I did it again!" ;-) Thank you, Larry. For you others who still cannot read URLs through the brain-wave channel: http://42graphy.org/galleries/2016-08-05-RedSquare/_IR34357.html Cheers, Igor On Thu, 3 Nov 2016, Igor PDML-StR wrote: "2x2 = 4to" Just a fun shot. This photo is taken at an iconic place... The photo in the PUG will be the clue of where this happened. All comments and suggestions are welcome. Igor PS. I am aware of the boy and his leg. There was no opportunity/time to move to the side and "hide" him behind the man. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Curious about price differential on 50-135/2.8
On 2015-02-15 23:22 , Darren Addy wrote: There is one for $625 on Denver's Craigslist right now *cough* People tend to sell for less than whatever they bought it for, which may be quite disconnected from the current new prices. With any SDM lens, I would be suspicious of AF motor problems unless I had the opportunity to try it out in person. SDM lenses are not something I would recommend purchasing online, at least without a good Return Policy, due to such concerns. i do think SDM creates some price-depressing FUD; i am not too troubled by it because i know these can can be converted to screw drive, which i might even prefer; but in the end i'm not sure there's any SDM liens i really need; i priced mine based on market, the fact i don't have the box and i'm not the original owner, and to encourage an in-person sale — demand seems a little low in Denver area currently -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Curious about price differential on 50-135/2.8
Darren, Yes, I thought of the issues with the SDM. As for the previous lower prices, - I do not think that's really a factor here. If it were a single case, I would understand, but it is really the market price. The market adjusts to the prices going up. The prices being this low consistently, - means that there are plenty of offerings (and those are at this low price). Since this is not a kit lens (and more over, it's a great lens; in my opinion, it is the best of the DA* zooms that I've tried), I am not understanding why. Igor Darren Addy Sun, 15 Feb 2015 22:22:57 -0800 wrote: There is one for $625 on Denver's Craigslist right now, which would be tempting if I hadn't just blown a lot of moola on silver Limiteds. People tend to sell for less than whatever they bought it for, which may be quite disconnected from the current new prices. With any SDM lens, I would be suspicious of AF motor problems unless I had the opportunity to try it out in person. SDM lenses are not something I would recommend purchasing online, at least without a good Return Policy, due to such concerns. On Mon, 16 Feb 2015, Igor PDML-StR wrote: The extremely good Pentax 50-135/2.8 lens is priced at around 1000 USD or slightly higher, and could be bought at or slightly below $900 during the Black Friday/Cyber Monday sales. However, I see that used they go much below that point. E.g. I saw one listed at $620 or so on PF, and there is one BIN at $650 on ebay. So, I am curious why there is such a big difference between the new and used prices on this lens? Any thoughts? I am not on the market for this lens, as I have it. So, my question is purely academic at this point. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Curious about price differential on 50-135/2.8
The extremely good Pentax 50-135/2.8 lens is priced at around 1000 USD or slightly higher, and could be bought at or slightly below $900 during the Black Friday/Cyber Monday sales. However, I see that used they go much below that point. E.g. I saw one listed at $620 or so on PF, and there is one BIN at $650 on ebay. So, I am curious why there is such a big difference between the new and used prices on this lens? Any thoughts? I am not on the market for this lens, as I have it. So, my question is purely academic at this point. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Curious about price differential on 50-135/2.8
There is one for $625 on Denver's Craigslist right now, which would be tempting if I hadn't just blown a lot of moola on silver Limiteds. People tend to sell for less than whatever they bought it for, which may be quite disconnected from the current new prices. With any SDM lens, I would be suspicious of AF motor problems unless I had the opportunity to try it out in person. SDM lenses are not something I would recommend purchasing online, at least without a good Return Policy, due to such concerns. On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:10 AM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: The extremely good Pentax 50-135/2.8 lens is priced at around 1000 USD or slightly higher, and could be bought at or slightly below $900 during the Black Friday/Cyber Monday sales. However, I see that used they go much below that point. E.g. I saw one listed at $620 or so on PF, and there is one BIN at $650 on ebay. So, I am curious why there is such a big difference between the new and used prices on this lens? Any thoughts? I am not on the market for this lens, as I have it. So, my question is purely academic at this point. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Curious views on HCB
Some of those comments appear to be reviews of the exhibition rather than of HCB's work. As far as critical and popular opinions of his work are concerned, most great artists under reappraisal and a dip in popularity after their death, so it shouldn't be a surprise if this happens to HCB. Part of the value of criticism is in revealing things about the artist or their work that we might not otherwise have seen, and it might include things we disagree with strongly. So be it. B On 16 May 2014, at 00:25, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: In the foreword to the 2013 edition of The Best American Travel Writing, Jason Wilson includes some curious quotes from reviews of the HCB retrospective exhibition at MOMA several years ago: The show was deemed 'almost unenduringly majestic' by The New Yorker's Peter Schjeldshl, who gave this stern assessment of what he called [HCB's] 'platitudinous' work: 'richly satisfies the eye and the mind, while numbing the heart.' This was seconded by the [NYT] Holland Cotter, who claimed that [HCB] 'ideas and emotions are diffuse' and that 'surprisingly little tension builds' in the exhibition. Both critics trotted out tired old comparisons to the work of Robert Frank, a detractor of [HCB] who once unjustly said of the older photographer, 'He traveled all over the world, and you never felt he was moved by something that was happening other than the beauty of it, or just the composition.' I have to say I was surprised by these views, and I wasn't aware of Frank's position. Any thoughts from the list? Cheers, Christine P.S. I wouldn't recommend this edition of BA Travel writing. To much of the work was down right dull. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Curious views on HCB
Hi Everyone: In the foreword to the 2013 edition of The Best American Travel Writing, Jason Wilson includes some curious quotes from reviews of the HCB retrospective exhibition at MOMA several years ago: The show was deemed 'almost unenduringly majestic' by The New Yorker's Peter Schjeldshl, who gave this stern assessment of what he called [HCB's] 'platitudinous' work: 'richly satisfies the eye and the mind, while numbing the heart.' This was seconded by the [NYT] Holland Cotter, who claimed that [HCB] 'ideas and emotions are diffuse' and that 'surprisingly little tension builds' in the exhibition. Both critics trotted out tired old comparisons to the work of Robert Frank, a detractor of [HCB] who once unjustly said of the older photographer, 'He traveled all over the world, and you never felt he was moved by something that was happening other than the beauty of it, or just the composition.' I have to say I was surprised by these views, and I wasn't aware of Frank's position. Any thoughts from the list? Cheers, Christine P.S. I wouldn't recommend this edition of BA Travel writing. To much of the work was down right dull. Sent from my iPad -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Curious views on HCB
When you said you were not aware of Frank's position I thought of OUR Frank - who certainly is a fan of HCB as am I. I didn't know about Robert Frank's opinion either. I saw the exhibit at MOMA - my final opinion was that it was too inclusive - that is - there was too much of the work that he did strictly for pay, not his personal work and that somehow watered down the impression someone might have who was unfamiliar with him. when I was there, I ran into an old friend who happened upon some of that work before seeing the iconic images and was leaning toward not being very impressed - so I took him to the good stuff :-) and he thanked me. This is a friend whose background is steeped in art and who has a good eye doing his own mostly travel photography for the memories. His father is a reknowned art collector (fairly recently deceased) - my point being just that he isn't a casual observer. anyway, I love HCB and thought that the exhibit was poorly curated and did him a disservice. ann On 5/15/2014 17:32, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: In the foreword to the 2013 edition of The Best American Travel Writing, Jason Wilson includes some curious quotes from reviews of the HCB retrospective exhibition at MOMA several years ago: The show was deemed 'almost unenduringly majestic' by The New Yorker's Peter Schjeldshl, who gave this stern assessment of what he called [HCB's] 'platitudinous' work: 'richly satisfies the eye and the mind, while numbing the heart.' This was seconded by the [NYT] Holland Cotter, who claimed that [HCB] 'ideas and emotions are diffuse' and that 'surprisingly little tension builds' in the exhibition. Both critics trotted out tired old comparisons to the work of Robert Frank, a detractor of [HCB] who once unjustly said of the older photographer, 'He traveled all over the world, and you never felt he was moved by something that was happening other than the beauty of it, or just the composition.' I have to say I was surprised by these views, and I wasn't aware of Frank's position. Any thoughts from the list? Cheers, Christine P.S. I wouldn't recommend this edition of BA Travel writing. To much of the work was down right dull. Sent from my iPad -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Curious views on HCB
Well first off, the critics quoted come off as exactly the kind of pretentious, self-important wankers who give art and artists a bad name. They're the visual equivalent of wine snobs (flaccid!, absurd!, fruity, yet arrogant). I understand Frank's criticism and agree to a limited extent, but he goes much too far with it. Probably a little professional jealousy going on there. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Curious views on HCB
The point about curation is well taken, Ann. Interestingly, with respect to the music biz, Johnny Lovine, Beats owner, talks about the lack of curation in the digital music business--here's the video. http://www.thatericalper.com/2014/05/10/watch-beats-electronics-jimmy-iovine-talk-about-the-future-of-music-for-40-minutes/ All the Arts still need good human curation despite this digital age. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On May 15, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: When you said you were not aware of Frank's position I thought of OUR Frank - who certainly is a fan of HCB as am I. I didn't know about Robert Frank's opinion either. I saw the exhibit at MOMA - my final opinion was that it was too inclusive - that is - there was too much of the work that he did strictly for pay, not his personal work and that somehow watered down the impression someone might have who was unfamiliar with him. when I was there, I ran into an old friend who happened upon some of that work before seeing the iconic images and was leaning toward not being very impressed - so I took him to the good stuff :-) and he thanked me. This is a friend whose background is steeped in art and who has a good eye doing his own mostly travel photography for the memories. His father is a reknowned art collector (fairly recently deceased) - my point being just that he isn't a casual observer. anyway, I love HCB and thought that the exhibit was poorly curated and did him a disservice. ann On 5/15/2014 17:32, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: In the foreword to the 2013 edition of The Best American Travel Writing, Jason Wilson includes some curious quotes from reviews of the HCB retrospective exhibition at MOMA several years ago: The show was deemed 'almost unenduringly majestic' by The New Yorker's Peter Schjeldshl, who gave this stern assessment of what he called [HCB's] 'platitudinous' work: 'richly satisfies the eye and the mind, while numbing the heart.' This was seconded by the [NYT] Holland Cotter, who claimed that [HCB] 'ideas and emotions are diffuse' and that 'surprisingly little tension builds' in the exhibition. Both critics trotted out tired old comparisons to the work of Robert Frank, a detractor of [HCB] who once unjustly said of the older photographer, 'He traveled all over the world, and you never felt he was moved by something that was happening other than the beauty of it, or just the composition.' I have to say I was surprised by these views, and I wasn't aware of Frank's position. Any thoughts from the list? Cheers, Christine P.S. I wouldn't recommend this edition of BA Travel writing. To much of the work was down right dull. Sent from my iPad -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Curious views on HCB
I think I agree with you Mark about Frank's comments, and think the point, which I might agree with to a degree, is made a bit too sharply. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On May 15, 2014, at 5:32 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Well first off, the critics quoted come off as exactly the kind of pretentious, self-important wankers who give art and artists a bad name. They're the visual equivalent of wine snobs (flaccid!, absurd!, fruity, yet arrogant). I understand Frank's criticism and agree to a limited extent, but he goes much too far with it. Probably a little professional jealousy going on there. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another shot from London - Curious Incident
On 1/27/2014 7:14 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Miserere wrote: On 27 January 2014 12:26, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/london1/7de01340.html If you've followed the news from London in the past couple of months you'll get the title... I have not, so I don't :-( As you can see from the sign, the play showing at the theatre in the Photo is The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night Time. It's been canceled because the ceiling of the theatre collapsed in early December. Hence, a curious incident. What happened to the dog? Hope he came through ok. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Another shot from London - Curious Incident
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Oh dear.. ann On 1/27/2014 12:26, Mark Roberts wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/london1/7de01340.html If you've followed the news from London in the past couple of months you'll get the title... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another shot from London - Curious Incident
I am sure I missed some of the photos from the series, but I like some of the HDR shots, especially this one: http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/london1/7de0141122.html The one you posted to the list, http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/london1/7de0122932.html is nice as well. But in the one above, HDR combined with the extreme wide-angle (was it a fish eye, or did you add distortion in post-processing?) gives it a painted look, in some sort of grotesque style. I also like this one for the interesting contrast of the light and colors: http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/london1/7de0031720.html Here, the ghosts do not distract (as they do in some other photos), but actually help the overall athmosphere. The panoramic photo is fun too, although, I'd wish the arch would be in either in the middle, or a bit more off center, err. centre. :-) Thanks for sharing, Igor Mon Jan 27 12:26:40 EST 2014 Mark Roberts wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/london1/7de01340.html If you've followed the news from London in the past couple of months you'll get the title... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another shot from London - Curious Incident
I have not, so I don't :-( Cheers, —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 27 January 2014 12:26, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/london1/7de01340.html If you've followed the news from London in the past couple of months you'll get the title... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another shot from London - Curious Incident
Miserere wrote: On 27 January 2014 12:26, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/london1/7de01340.html If you've followed the news from London in the past couple of months you'll get the title... I have not, so I don't :-( As you can see from the sign, the play showing at the theatre in the Photo is The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night Time. It's been canceled because the ceiling of the theatre collapsed in early December. Hence, a curious incident. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Curious indeed! No dog, and a daytime picture! (and an intriguing one, at that) On Jan 27, 2014, at 12:26 , Mark Roberts wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/london1/7de01340.html If you've followed the news from London in the past couple of months you'll get the title... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Curious Gull
I'm not sure it's curiosity, looks more like sizing up for a strafing run... On 4/13/2011 4:37 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Like the curious tilt of the head. Fun at the lake. The sun was in and out and I may have out exposed the shutter a wee bit. heck! Comments encourages. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=588 K-5, DA 55~300@300mm, f/8, 1/8000, ISO 1600 -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Nicely framed here. Perhaps a bit overexposed on his head and the edge of the wing, but a highlight doesn't always detract, and here I find it quite acceptable. Paul On Apr 14, 2011, at 3:10 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: I'm not sure it's curiosity, looks more like sizing up for a strafing run... On 4/13/2011 4:37 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Like the curious tilt of the head. Fun at the lake. The sun was in and out and I may have out exposed the shutter a wee bit. heck! Comments encourages. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=588 K-5, DA 55~300@300mm, f/8, 1/8000, ISO 1600 -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Curious Gull
Thanks, Christine! I agree with you about the crop being tight. I didn't catch it in the frame center and cropped to even the proximity of the wings to the frame edge. Will hang on to it as is for now. Jack --- On Wed, 4/13/11, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: Curious Gull To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2011, 9:22 PM Great tilt of the head, Jack. Nice catch. Yields a nice animal expression. Crop is a little tight for my eye. Would prefer a bit more space around the wing span. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:37 PM Subject: PESO: Curious Gull Like the curious tilt of the head. Fun at the lake. The sun was in and out and I may have out exposed the shutter a wee bit. heck! Comments encourages. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=588 K-5, DA 55~300@300mm, f/8, 1/8000, ISO 1600 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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LoL.. Could have been, Peter. One of them left a deposit on my windshield while parked that day. Actually, he looks sorta guilty at that. ;) Jack --- On Thu, 4/14/11, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Curious Gull To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, April 14, 2011, 12:10 AM I'm not sure it's curiosity, looks more like sizing up for a strafing run... On 4/13/2011 4:37 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Like the curious tilt of the head. Fun at the lake. The sun was in and out and I may have out exposed the shutter a wee bit. heck! Comments encourages. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=588 K-5, DA 55~300@300mm, f/8, 1/8000, ISO 1600 -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Curious Gull
Thanks, Paul. I got a bit shutter speed over zealous for the changing light. May have been conditions for TAV.(?) Jack --- On Thu, 4/14/11, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: PESO: Curious Gull To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, April 14, 2011, 3:51 AM Nicely framed here. Perhaps a bit overexposed on his head and the edge of the wing, but a highlight doesn't always detract, and here I find it quite acceptable. Paul On Apr 14, 2011, at 3:10 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: I'm not sure it's curiosity, looks more like sizing up for a strafing run... On 4/13/2011 4:37 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Like the curious tilt of the head. Fun at the lake. The sun was in and out and I may have out exposed the shutter a wee bit. heck! Comments encourages. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=588 K-5, DA 55~300@300mm, f/8, 1/8000, ISO 1600 -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Nice capture overall. I agree with Paul on the overexposure. I'd like a little more room between the wing tips the image edges. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: PESO: Curious Gull Nicely framed here. Perhaps a bit overexposed on his head and the edge of the wing, but a highlight doesn't always detract, and here I find it quite acceptable. Paul On Apr 14, 2011, at 3:10 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: I'm not sure it's curiosity, looks more like sizing up for a strafing run... On 4/13/2011 4:37 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Like the curious tilt of the head. Fun at the lake. The sun was in and out and I may have out exposed the shutter a wee bit. heck! Comments encourages. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=588 K-5, DA 55~300@300mm, f/8, 1/8000, ISO 1600 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Ken! If you had read my original upload you would have seen my remarks re the overexposure. Later, I included an additional reference defiling myself for allowing the bloom, especially that on the Gull's head. I simply out exposed the shutter. As I responded to another critiquer, I also feel it's a slightly tight crop. This image has about come to the end of its life and, alas, will go out in its present form. ;) Jack --- On Thu, 4/14/11, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com Subject: Re: PESO: Curious Gull To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, April 14, 2011, 4:19 PM Nice capture overall. I agree with Paul on the overexposure. I'd like a little more room between the wing tips the image edges. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: PESO: Curious Gull Nicely framed here. Perhaps a bit overexposed on his head and the edge of the wing, but a highlight doesn't always detract, and here I find it quite acceptable. Paul On Apr 14, 2011, at 3:10 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: I'm not sure it's curiosity, looks more like sizing up for a strafing run... On 4/13/2011 4:37 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Like the curious tilt of the head. Fun at the lake. The sun was in and out and I may have out exposed the shutter a wee bit. heck! Comments encourages. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=588 K-5, DA 55~300@300mm, f/8, 1/8000, ISO 1600 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Curious Gull
Like the curious tilt of the head. Fun at the lake. The sun was in and out and I may have out exposed the shutter a wee bit. heck! Comments encourages. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=588 K-5, DA 55~300@300mm, f/8, 1/8000, ISO 1600 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Curious Gull
Very nice gull! Well framed (cropped?). On Apr 13, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Like the curious tilt of the head. Fun at the lake. The sun was in and out and I may have out exposed the shutter a wee bit. heck! Comments encourages. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=588 K-5, DA 55~300@300mm, f/8, 1/8000, ISO 1600 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yes, cropped. (About 50%) Thankk you, Stan! Jack) --- On Wed, 4/13/11, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info Subject: Re: PESO: Curious Gull To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2011, 3:14 PM Very nice gull! Well framed (cropped?). On Apr 13, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Like the curious tilt of the head. Fun at the lake. The sun was in and out and I may have out exposed the shutter a wee bit. heck! Comments encourages. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=588 K-5, DA 55~300@300mm, f/8, 1/8000, ISO 1600 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Curious Gull
Nice capture of the gull... all the tones and colors are spot on... ___ Pictures that I have taken on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jack Davis Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:37 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO: Curious Gull Like the curious tilt of the head. Fun at the lake. The sun was in and out and I may have out exposed the shutter a wee bit. heck! Comments encourages. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=588 K-5, DA 55~300@300mm, f/8, 1/8000, ISO 1600 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Curious Gull
Thanks, Jeff! There is a bit of bloom on the head due to slight over exposure. Not a lot, but I would rather it not be there. Jack --- On Wed, 4/13/11, Jeffery Johnson jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: Jeffery Johnson jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net Subject: RE: PESO: Curious Gull To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2011, 4:30 PM Nice capture of the gull... all the tones and colors are spot on... ___ Pictures that I have taken on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jack Davis Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:37 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO: Curious Gull Like the curious tilt of the head. Fun at the lake. The sun was in and out and I may have out exposed the shutter a wee bit. heck! Comments encourages. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=588 K-5, DA 55~300@300mm, f/8, 1/8000, ISO 1600 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Curious Gull
It isn't too bad Jack -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jack Davis Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 8:07 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: PESO: Curious Gull Thanks, Jeff! There is a bit of bloom on the head due to slight over exposure. Not a lot, but I would rather it not be there. Jack --- On Wed, 4/13/11, Jeffery Johnson jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: Jeffery Johnson jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net Subject: RE: PESO: Curious Gull To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2011, 4:30 PM Nice capture of the gull... all the tones and colors are spot on... ___ Pictures that I have taken on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jack Davis Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:37 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO: Curious Gull Like the curious tilt of the head. Fun at the lake. The sun was in and out and I may have out exposed the shutter a wee bit. heck! Comments encourages. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=588 K-5, DA 55~300@300mm, f/8, 1/8000, ISO 1600 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Curious Gull
Great tilt of the head, Jack. Nice catch. Yields a nice animal expression. Crop is a little tight for my eye. Would prefer a bit more space around the wing span. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:37 PM Subject: PESO: Curious Gull Like the curious tilt of the head. Fun at the lake. The sun was in and out and I may have out exposed the shutter a wee bit. heck! Comments encourages. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=588 K-5, DA 55~300@300mm, f/8, 1/8000, ISO 1600 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Curious pup
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:20 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Elephant seals are strange animals... As mammals come, their investment in parental care is pretty scant. Blog link only this time, since there are two pics: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/12/curious-pup.html Looks like they haven't learned to fear humans yet. Hopefully they'll never have reason to. Wonderful shots, Jostein. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Curious pup
Elephant seals are strange animals... As mammals come, their investment in parental care is pretty scant. Blog link only this time, since there are two pics: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/12/curious-pup.html Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Curious pup
Interesting behavioral moments, Jostein! Jack --- On Sat, 12/5/09, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Curious pup To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 6:20 AM Elephant seals are strange animals... As mammals come, their investment in parental care is pretty scant. Blog link only this time, since there are two pics: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/12/curious-pup.html Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Curious pup
In a message dated 12/5/2009 6:20:17 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, alunf...@gmail.com writes: Elephant seals are strange animals... As mammals come, their investment in parental care is pretty scant. Blog link only this time, since there are two pics: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/12/curious-pup.html Jostein === Love the photo of the pup sniffing the guy. envy for trip Not that I could stand all that cold and snow, I couldn't. Marnie aka Doe :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Curious - who would make a no-name 85/1.4
I had this on my ebay watch list and no one seems to have bought. Not that I'm interested either (my FA85 and the phrase cold dead hands comes to mind), but who would make a generic 85/1.4 lens. Seems odd Looks Tokina-ish http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=360107016306ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:AU:1123 http://tinyurl.com/5r662d D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Curious - who would make a no-name 85/1.4
Samyang. http://www.syopt.co.kr/eng/product/manual_zoom.asp Bob I had this on my ebay watch list and no one seems to have bought. Not that I'm interested either (my FA85 and the phrase cold dead hands comes to mind), but who would make a generic 85/1.4 lens. Seems odd Looks Tokina-ish http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=36010701 6306ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:AU:1123 http://tinyurl.com/5r662d -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Curious - who would make a no-name 85/1.4
Interestingly, it's an Aspherical design, which is somewhat exotic for an 85. Wonder if it's any good. Loks like Samyang may be looking at moving up in the lens world. They're currently the replacement for Cosina at the low end of the 3rd party market. -Adam On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 3:58 AM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Samyang. http://www.syopt.co.kr/eng/product/manual_zoom.asp Bob I had this on my ebay watch list and no one seems to have bought. Not that I'm interested either (my FA85 and the phrase cold dead hands comes to mind), but who would make a generic 85/1.4 lens. Seems odd Looks Tokina-ish http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=36010701 6306ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:AU:1123 http://tinyurl.com/5r662d -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Curious - who would make a no-name 85/1.4
Hi! On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loks like Samyang may be looking at moving up in the lens world. They're currently the replacement for Cosina at the low end of the 3rd party market. Adam, is the above the long version of rubbish? ;-) Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Curious - who would make a no-name 85/1.4
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loks like Samyang may be looking at moving up in the lens world. They're currently the replacement for Cosina at the low end of the 3rd party market. Adam, is the above the long version of rubbish? ;-) Boris Nope, it's 'it might actually not be rubbish'. Of course it's almost as much as the Zeiss (That one Australian posting is about half the price of the Samyang 85 elsewhere), so I'd recommend just buying the Zeiss ZK 85/1.4 which is a proven performer. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Curious - who would make a no-name 85/1.4
I've FA 77 limited which serves all my moderate tele needs just nicely ;-). Adam Maas wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loks like Samyang may be looking at moving up in the lens world. They're currently the replacement for Cosina at the low end of the 3rd party market. Adam, is the above the long version of rubbish? ;-) Boris Nope, it's 'it might actually not be rubbish'. Of course it's almost as much as the Zeiss (That one Australian posting is about half the price of the Samyang 85 elsewhere), so I'd recommend just buying the Zeiss ZK 85/1.4 which is a proven performer. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Curious - who would make a no-name 85/1.4
Wierd. They note it goes to f22 but the one in the eBay ad only stopped to f16. -Brendan --- Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Samyang. http://www.syopt.co.kr/eng/product/manual_zoom.asp Bob I had this on my ebay watch list and no one seems to have bought. Not that I'm interested either (my FA85 and the phrase cold dead hands comes to mind), but who would make a generic 85/1.4 lens. Seems odd Looks Tokina-ish http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=36010701 6306ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:AU:1123 http://tinyurl.com/5r662d -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Curious - who would make a no-name 85/1.4
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Samyang. http://www.syopt.co.kr/eng/product/manual_zoom.asp Bob Reported Attack Site! This web site at www.syopt.co.kr has been reported as an attack site and has been blocked based on your security preferences. I had this on my ebay watch list and no one seems to have bought. Not that I'm interested either (my FA85 and the phrase cold dead hands comes to mind), but who would make a generic 85/1.4 lens. Seems odd Looks Tokina-ish http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=36010701 6306ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:AU:1123 http://tinyurl.com/5r662d -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Curious - who would make a no-name 85/1.4
Possibly anyone interested for Pentax might be put off by the lens mount, which is apparently Nikon F. So anyone looking for Pentax lenses would look elsewhere, and anyone looking for Nikon lenses wouldn't bother to look... Derby Chang wrote: I had this on my ebay watch list and no one seems to have bought. Not that I'm interested either (my FA85 and the phrase cold dead hands comes to mind), but who would make a generic 85/1.4 lens. Seems odd Looks Tokina-ish http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=360107016306ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:AU:1123 http://tinyurl.com/5r662d D -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got curious about announced Pentax Products
If only. I've been waiting for this lens since it was announced. I still need to decide between it and the Sigma 100-300 f4, but I couldn't bring myself to buy the Sigma without comparing it to this lens. Soon. Soon. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon P. J. Alling wrote: This one seem like quite the bargain... http://www.parkcameras.com/ProductDetails/mcs/productID/5298 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got curious about announced Pentax Products
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/07/04 Fri AM 02:07:13 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Got curious about announced Pentax Products This one seem like quite the bargain... http://www.parkcameras.com/ProductDetails/mcs/productID/5298 Not once you see pp. Bait switch isn't the sole property of Manhattan. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got curious about announced Pentax Products
Well it is a bargain, it's made of the rarest material known to man unobtainium yet sells for zero yes zero dollars... Leon Altoff wrote: If only. I've been waiting for this lens since it was announced. I still need to decide between it and the Sigma 100-300 f4, but I couldn't bring myself to buy the Sigma without comparing it to this lens. Soon. Soon. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon P. J. Alling wrote: This one seem like quite the bargain... http://www.parkcameras.com/ProductDetails/mcs/productID/5298 -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Got curious about announced Pentax Products
Well worth the asking price, it would sit nicely in a camera bag with the DA* 300/4 and DA 16-45/4. Any news on the SDM teleconverter? Spec, price etc. Regards, John From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2008 03:07 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Got curious about announced Pentax Products This one seem like quite the bargain... http://www.parkcameras.com/ProductDetails/mcs/productID/5298 -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got curious about announced Pentax Products
It seems to be manufactured from the same material at the same low price. John Wittingham wrote: Well worth the asking price, it would sit nicely in a camera bag with the DA* 300/4 and DA 16-45/4. Any news on the SDM teleconverter? Spec, price etc. Regards, John From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2008 03:07 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Got curious about announced Pentax Products This one seem like quite the bargain... http://www.parkcameras.com/ProductDetails/mcs/productID/5298 -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Got curious about announced Pentax Products
Great, I'll put my name down for one! John From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2008 14:46 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Got curious about announced Pentax Products It seems to be manufactured from the same material at the same low price. John Wittingham wrote: Well worth the asking price, it would sit nicely in a camera bag with the DA* 300/4 and DA 16-45/4. Any news on the SDM teleconverter? Spec, price etc. Regards, John From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2008 03:07 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Got curious about announced Pentax Products This one seem like quite the bargain... http://www.parkcameras.com/ProductDetails/mcs/productID/5298 -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Got curious about announced Pentax Products
This one seem like quite the bargain... http://www.parkcameras.com/ProductDetails/mcs/productID/5298 -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got curious about announced Pentax Products
I agree - I would pay two or three times as much for this lens. stan On Jul 3, 2008, at 9:07 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: This one seem like quite the bargain... http://www.parkcameras.com/ProductDetails/mcs/productID/5298 -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Curious Auctions
Yeah, this is a recurring scam. And it's usually the FA* 85/1.4 that's offered. On May 9, 2008, at 10:47 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: I know we shouldn't discuss current auctions here, but I am also confident that no one here is foolish enough to bid on a dodgy one. Does anyone else think it strange that a certain auction site suddenly has three FA* 85 F1.4s for sale? Two are in China and one in Poland. I recall that this dealer in Poland has from time to time advertised some extraordinary lenses, and questions have been raised about him. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Curious Auctions
I know we shouldn't discuss current auctions here, but I am also confident that no one here is foolish enough to bid on a dodgy one. Does anyone else think it strange that a certain auction site suddenly has three FA* 85 F1.4s for sale? Two are in China and one in Poland. I recall that this dealer in Poland has from time to time advertised some extraordinary lenses, and questions have been raised about him. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: curious K10D behavior ... possible bug ...
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:03:02 -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Another lightroom bug: the lens used is not imported with PEF. The lens data for older lenses is properly interpreted in both Lightroom and Bridge/Camera Raw, regardless of whether I have the camera set to create PEF or DNG files. Of my lenses, the DA21 and DA70 are not interpreted and their names don't appear in the lens data sections of either Bridge's metadata view or LR's metadata browser. PPL interprets them correctly so I suspect the issue is that the format or specific codes have changed and Adobe hasn't yet incorporated the changes into their metadata parser. Well, I noticed quite a few of the newer Pentax lenses are NOT interpreted correctly in Lightrom 1.0. They all end up as 'unknown' which makes the lens statistics less useful :-) I think there was a list floating around the PDML not too long ago that had all the lens-codes as used by Pentax ... Perhaps it would be a good idea to send that to Adobe so they could improve for the next release/update. Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: curious K10D behavior ... possible bug ...
To be more precise about what I read (I will try to find back the post on DPR) Pentax added a number in the field identifiying the lens. The added a 0 probably 'cos they want to expand available codes I guess. Of course Lightroom do not understand anymore. That's what I read. Can't check myself. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... 2007/6/14, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Jun 13, 2007, at 3:26 PM, Thibouille wrote: The lens data bug is caused by firmware 1.20 I've read on DpReview. Can't say more 'cos I run 1.10 no problem at all so far. I've got 4000 exposures made with all versions of the K10D firmware and all lenses, dating back to the beginning of December. There is no difference in the lens data in the files that I can detect. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I noticed now and then that there were a few K10D PEF files that neither Lightroom nor DNG Converter could read. Pentax Photo Browser always reads them and can write them out as DNG files. Once that's done, both LR and DNG Converter can read them. Today I did a bunch of product shots and had the camera pointed face down on a copy stand. 3/4 of the PEFs were unreadable by Lightroom, but all were just fine to open and output as DNGs with Pentax Browser. As I look through my libraries, all the PEF files that fail were made with the camera pointed down. No DNG file made by the camera has ever been unreadable by Lightroom or Camera Raw... Seems to me that there must be something funky about the PEF file created when the orientation sensor is in an ambiguous position... ?? Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: curious K10D behavior ... possible bug ...
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: curious K10D behavior ... possible bug ... Seems to me that there must be something funky about the PEF file created when the orientation sensor is in an ambiguous position... ?? I'll have alook at if mine does that too. I will be doing quite a bit of product photography fairly soon, and don't need that as a problem. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: curious K10D behavior ... possible bug ...
I also noticed some files didn't import properly. Tried 2 test shots facing and bingo one of them won't import. Another lightroom bug: the lens used is not imported with PEF. I must check DNG but PEF is smaller. On 6/13/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed now and then that there were a few K10D PEF files that neither Lightroom nor DNG Converter could read. Pentax Photo Browser always reads them and can write them out as DNG files. Once that's done, both LR and DNG Converter can read them. Today I did a bunch of product shots and had the camera pointed face down on a copy stand. 3/4 of the PEFs were unreadable by Lightroom, but all were just fine to open and output as DNGs with Pentax Browser. As I look through my libraries, all the PEF files that fail were made with the camera pointed down. No DNG file made by the camera has ever been unreadable by Lightroom or Camera Raw... Seems to me that there must be something funky about the PEF file created when the orientation sensor is in an ambiguous position... ?? Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- -- Toine http://leende.net/peso -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: curious K10D behavior ... possible bug ...
On Jun 13, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Toine wrote: I also noticed some files didn't import properly. Tried 2 test shots facing and bingo one of them won't import. Another lightroom bug: the lens used is not imported with PEF. The lens data for older lenses is properly interpreted in both Lightroom and Bridge/Camera Raw, regardless of whether I have the camera set to create PEF or DNG files. Of my lenses, the DA21 and DA70 are not interpreted and their names don't appear in the lens data sections of either Bridge's metadata view or LR's metadata browser. PPL interprets them correctly so I suspect the issue is that the format or specific codes have changed and Adobe hasn't yet incorporated the changes into their metadata parser. I should find a pair of PEF files that were taken side by side, one that parses and one that doesn't, and analyze their differences... if I get energetic enough and care enough, of course. It seems a moderately trivial issue as I can stop it from happening by simply switching the capture mode to DNG. I must check DNG but PEF is smaller. K10D RAW/PEF files are losslessly compressed, K10D RAW/DNG files are not. This has no bearing on the metadata, they both contain the full complement of K10D metadata (or are supposed to). Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: curious K10D behavior ... possible bug ...
The lens data bug is caused by firmware 1.20 I've read on DpReview. Can't say more 'cos I run 1.10 no problem at all so far. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... 2007/6/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I noticed now and then that there were a few K10D PEF files that neither Lightroom nor DNG Converter could read. Pentax Photo Browser always reads them and can write them out as DNG files. Once that's done, both LR and DNG Converter can read them. Today I did a bunch of product shots and had the camera pointed face down on a copy stand. 3/4 of the PEFs were unreadable by Lightroom, but all were just fine to open and output as DNGs with Pentax Browser. As I look through my libraries, all the PEF files that fail were made with the camera pointed down. No DNG file made by the camera has ever been unreadable by Lightroom or Camera Raw... Seems to me that there must be something funky about the PEF file created when the orientation sensor is in an ambiguous position... ?? Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: curious K10D behavior ... possible bug ...
I use SilkyPix - the one you pay for. So far, with about 15,000 frames shot, I have not encountered the problem you are describing. -- Bruce Wednesday, June 13, 2007, 2:25:36 PM, you wrote: T I also noticed some files didn't import properly. Tried 2 test shots T facing and bingo one of them won't import. T Another lightroom bug: the lens used is not imported with PEF. I must T check DNG but PEF is smaller. T On 6/13/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed now and then that there were a few K10D PEF files that neither Lightroom nor DNG Converter could read. Pentax Photo Browser always reads them and can write them out as DNG files. Once that's done, both LR and DNG Converter can read them. Today I did a bunch of product shots and had the camera pointed face down on a copy stand. 3/4 of the PEFs were unreadable by Lightroom, but all were just fine to open and output as DNGs with Pentax Browser. As I look through my libraries, all the PEF files that fail were made with the camera pointed down. No DNG file made by the camera has ever been unreadable by Lightroom or Camera Raw... Seems to me that there must be something funky about the PEF file created when the orientation sensor is in an ambiguous position... ?? Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net T -- T -- T Toine T http://leende.net/peso -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: curious K10D behavior ... possible bug ...
On Jun 13, 2007, at 3:26 PM, Thibouille wrote: The lens data bug is caused by firmware 1.20 I've read on DpReview. Can't say more 'cos I run 1.10 no problem at all so far. I've got 4000 exposures made with all versions of the K10D firmware and all lenses, dating back to the beginning of December. There is no difference in the lens data in the files that I can detect. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: curious K10D behavior ... possible bug ...
On Jun 13, 2007, at 4:48 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Jun 13, 2007, at 3:26 PM, Thibouille wrote: The lens data bug is caused by firmware 1.20 I've read on DpReview. Can't say more 'cos I run 1.10 no problem at all so far. I've got 4000 exposures made with all versions of the K10D firmware and all lenses, dating back to the beginning of December. There is no difference in the lens data in the files that I can detect. Error: closer to 14,000 exposures ... Damm fingers. ;-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: curious
So, let's see the trailor park as well :-) Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Paul Stenquist Sendt: 3. marts 2007 14:12 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: curious Thanks for looking. Interesting feedback on this one. Very different from what was said when I first showed these (in color) some years ago. Paul On Mar 3, 2007, at 1:51 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: My feeling exactly re: being staged or set up. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5667450size=md === It looks too deliberate to me -- carefully laid out and posed. From the towel, to the beer cans, to the cigarette pack carefully sticking out of her pocket. Was it for an ad for something? Very retro, though. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.6/708 - Release Date: 03/02/2007 16:19 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.6/709 - Release Date: 03/03/2007 08:12 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: curious
On 2/3/07, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm somewhat surprised that there was no response to my post of a picture of a woman in what coucl be called an aniti-social environment. It's not unlike an Arbus pic, although not as well executed perhaps. Is the total silence due to the content or the execution? Or perhaps it never made it to the list. No big deal, just curious. Paul http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5667450size=md I ddn't see it before, but having seen it now, I agree with marnie, it looks a bit too 'arranged', and I think the framing highlights that. If someone were (say) to shoot a staged pic for a newspaper or magazine on young drinkers, this is what I would expect to see, ex\specially as it's vertical format. As a standalone image I'm not keen. I don't like the legs chopped off. Social shots like this that are 'tight' do nothing for me. I oike them a lot looser, let's see what's around and about, probably a horizontal format showing the drinker in her entirety. Just my preference, and you did ask ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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It was posed. This lady and I did a whole series of posed shots in a trailer park. I personally have no misgivings in regard to staging a photograph, although I don't want them to look posed. If you remember I posted a reference to an article in last Sunday's New York Times about a photographer who does staged street photography on large format. His prints have sold for over a million dollars. On Mar 2, 2007, at 11:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/2/2007 8:17:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm somewhat surprised that there was no response to my post of a picture of a woman in what coucl be called an aniti-social environment. It's not unlike an Arbus pic, although not as well executed perhaps. Is the total silence due to the content or the execution? Or perhaps it never made it to the list. No big deal, just curious. Paul http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5667450size=md === It looks too deliberate to me -- carefully laid out and posed. From the towel, to the beer cans, to the cigarette pack carefully sticking out of her pocket. Was it for an ad for something? Very retro, though. Marnie aka Doe BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Thanks for looking. Interesting feedback on this one. Very different from what was said when I first showed these (in color) some years ago. Paul On Mar 3, 2007, at 1:51 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: My feeling exactly re: being staged or set up. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5667450size=md === It looks too deliberate to me -- carefully laid out and posed. From the towel, to the beer cans, to the cigarette pack carefully sticking out of her pocket. Was it for an ad for something? Very retro, though. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Thanks Cotty. I appreciate the feedback. The original crop was closer to what you describe, and it was a horizontal. It also reveals the lawn chair to be far from pristine. We had all we could do to keep it from collapsing. You can see it here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5670710size=lg On Mar 3, 2007, at 3:52 AM, Cotty wrote: On 2/3/07, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm somewhat surprised that there was no response to my post of a picture of a woman in what coucl be called an aniti-social environment. It's not unlike an Arbus pic, although not as well executed perhaps. Is the total silence due to the content or the execution? Or perhaps it never made it to the list. No big deal, just curious. Paul http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5667450size=md I ddn't see it before, but having seen it now, I agree with marnie, it looks a bit too 'arranged', and I think the framing highlights that. If someone were (say) to shoot a staged pic for a newspaper or magazine on young drinkers, this is what I would expect to see, ex\specially as it's vertical format. As a standalone image I'm not keen. I don't like the legs chopped off. Social shots like this that are 'tight' do nothing for me. I oike them a lot looser, let's see what's around and about, probably a horizontal format showing the drinker in her entirety. Just my preference, and you did ask ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: curious
On 3/3/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was posed. This lady and I did a whole series of posed shots in a trailer park. I personally have no misgivings in regard to staging a photograph, although I don't want them to look posed. That's fine by me. Show us the rest of them? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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It loads for me too this AM.(??) I had quite a PM yesterday thrashing around getting E5 downloaded to Vista. Finally staggered away from the keyboard after a couple hours. The link did not acknowledge the courser, so I pecked it in and doubtless fumbled the address. I did not see this and find it holds my attention. I'm wondering if she's unsure if she can get up when she needs to release some beer. Interesting 'study'..really. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm, don't know why that might happen. It loads for me from your response. No biggy. Paul On Mar 2, 2007, at 11:05 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Paul, I just tried this link and got an error message. It doesn't load on its own.(?) Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm somewhat surprised that there was no response to my post of a picture of a woman in what coucl be called an aniti-social environment. It's not unlike an Arbus pic, although not as well executed perhaps. Is the total silence due to the content or the execution? Or perhaps it never made it to the list. No big deal, just curious. Paul http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5667450size=md -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net ___ _ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! http://mobile.yahoo.com/services?promote=mail -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Thanks. Yes, I'll post a small gallery in another message. Paul On Mar 3, 2007, at 8:19 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: On 3/3/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was posed. This lady and I did a whole series of posed shots in a trailer park. I personally have no misgivings in regard to staging a photograph, although I don't want them to look posed. That's fine by me. Show us the rest of them? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: curious
Thanks Jack. Appreciate the feedback. Paul On Mar 3, 2007, at 8:47 AM, Jack Davis wrote: It loads for me too this AM.(??) I had quite a PM yesterday thrashing around getting E5 downloaded to Vista. Finally staggered away from the keyboard after a couple hours. The link did not acknowledge the courser, so I pecked it in and doubtless fumbled the address. I did not see this and find it holds my attention. I'm wondering if she's unsure if she can get up when she needs to release some beer. Interesting 'study'..really. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm, don't know why that might happen. It loads for me from your response. No biggy. Paul On Mar 2, 2007, at 11:05 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Paul, I just tried this link and got an error message. It doesn't load on its own.(?) Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm somewhat surprised that there was no response to my post of a picture of a woman in what coucl be called an aniti-social environment. It's not unlike an Arbus pic, although not as well executed perhaps. Is the total silence due to the content or the execution? Or perhaps it never made it to the list. No big deal, just curious. Paul http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5667450size=md -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net ___ _ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net ___ _ Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! http://mobile.yahoo.com/services?promote=mail -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: curious
Hi Paul, I recall some of the earlier pics, some of which I liked, and while I recognize that they, too, were set-ups, this one comes across as more artificial-looking than what I remember the earlier pics to be. Of course, over time, our perspectives change, changing the way we view photos and see/experience the things around us. Based on what I recall of the earlier series, this is the least successful photo of the group. That said, even if someone gave you a million dollars for this pic, it would only reflect their feelings and judgement, not establish this image as anything better than what it is, which would be different to different observers. That someone else gets huge sums of money for a type of photo neither makes it better nor worse that what someone else may be doing ... sometimes it's just a matter of finding a schmuck with a lotta money. There have been a few comments in this thread about seeing the entire series. Maybe you could put up a small gallery and see how that affects the way people think about and how they see this pic. BTW, the disc you sent hasn't arrived. Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist Thanks for looking. Interesting feedback on this one. Very different from what was said when I first showed these (in color) some years ago. On Mar 3, 2007, at 1:51 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: My feeling exactly re: being staged or set up. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5667450size=md === It looks too deliberate to me -- carefully laid out and posed. From the towel, to the beer cans, to the cigarette pack carefully sticking out of her pocket. Was it for an ad for something? Very retro, though. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Paul, what part of LA (lower alabama) was that picture taken? :-) Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Thanks for the feedback, Shel. I posted a small series. It's here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=701586 I'm surprised that the disc never arrived. I sent it over a week ago. If it doesn't come in the next few days, I'll mail another one. I was wondering why you didn't report your findings. Paul On Mar 3, 2007, at 9:36 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Paul, I recall some of the earlier pics, some of which I liked, and while I recognize that they, too, were set-ups, this one comes across as more artificial-looking than what I remember the earlier pics to be. Of course, over time, our perspectives change, changing the way we view photos and see/experience the things around us. Based on what I recall of the earlier series, this is the least successful photo of the group. That said, even if someone gave you a million dollars for this pic, it would only reflect their feelings and judgement, not establish this image as anything better than what it is, which would be different to different observers. That someone else gets huge sums of money for a type of photo neither makes it better nor worse that what someone else may be doing ... sometimes it's just a matter of finding a schmuck with a lotta money. There have been a few comments in this thread about seeing the entire series. Maybe you could put up a small gallery and see how that affects the way people think about and how they see this pic. BTW, the disc you sent hasn't arrived. Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist Thanks for looking. Interesting feedback on this one. Very different from what was said when I first showed these (in color) some years ago. On Mar 3, 2007, at 1:51 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: My feeling exactly re: being staged or set up. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5667450size=md === It looks too deliberate to me -- carefully laid out and posed. From the towel, to the beer cans, to the cigarette pack carefully sticking out of her pocket. Was it for an ad for something? Very retro, though. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: curious
It was taken in Pontiac, Michigan. It was the only really decrepit trailer park we were able to find. This particular trailer was abandoned. Paul On Mar 3, 2007, at 10:19 AM, Walter Hamler wrote: Paul, what part of LA (lower alabama) was that picture taken? :-) Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: curious
It was posted twice FWI. I looked @ it believe you had posted it a few years ago. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:54 PM Subject: Re: curious In a message dated 3/2/2007 8:17:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm somewhat surprised that there was no response to my post of a picture of a woman in what coucl be called an aniti-social environment. It's not unlike an Arbus pic, although not as well executed perhaps. Is the total silence due to the content or the execution? Or perhaps it never made it to the list. No big deal, just curious. Paul http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5667450size=md === It looks too deliberate to me -- carefully laid out and posed. From the towel, to the beer cans, to the cigarette pack carefully sticking out of her pocket. Was it for an ad for something? Very retro, though. Marnie aka Doe BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: curious
Paul Stenquist wrote: It was taken in Pontiac, Michigan. It was the only really decrepit trailer park we were able to find. This particular trailer was abandoned. Holy cow, Paul! You folks have some really well preserved trailer parks up there. Down here, what's shown in those photos would be a really high class one. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: curious
Paul Stenquist wrote: I personally have no misgivings in regard to staging a photograph, although I don't want them to look posed. If you do another trailer park series, get the wardrobe and props from the local Salvation Army or Goodwill store or something so they'll look lived in. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: curious
That's exactly where we bought them -- Salvation Army. Right down the street from the TP. Paul On Mar 3, 2007, at 12:27 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: I personally have no misgivings in regard to staging a photograph, although I don't want them to look posed. If you do another trailer park series, get the wardrobe and props from the local Salvation Army or Goodwill store or something so they'll look lived in. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: curious
Yeah, I believe it. I think if I took a ride up into Michigan Militia territory, I can find something nastier. But I didn't want to make this too much work:-). Paul On Mar 3, 2007, at 12:30 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: It was taken in Pontiac, Michigan. It was the only really decrepit trailer park we were able to find. This particular trailer was abandoned. Holy cow, Paul! You folks have some really well preserved trailer parks up there. Down here, what's shown in those photos would be a really high class one. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: curious
Paul Stenquist wrote: That's exactly where we bought them -- Salvation Army. Right down the street from the TP. You've got better Salvation Army stores than we do, too. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
