Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-08-02 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 09:13:29 -0400 paul stenquist wrote: From among many Pentax purchases, both used and new, I've only had serious problems with one item. My first DA* 16-50 couldn't achieve a flat focus field. It was replaced by BH. The second one was excellent. I still have my first one,

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-08-01 Thread Derby Chang
William Robb wrote: I'm either really lucky or else I have very low standards. That has to be a Mark! I have both the DA55 and the 58 Nok. Certainly, I think the 55 is the more advanced lens, but I'm keeping the Nok because the focusing feels so sexy. And if/when I get the 20/3.5, the

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-08-01 Thread Sasha Sobol
Derby, it would be interesting if you could take few shots with both lenses. Thanks, --Sasha On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Derby Changder...@iinet.net.au wrote: William Robb wrote: I'm either really lucky or else I have very low standards. That has to be a Mark! I have both the DA55

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-08-01 Thread Derby Chang
Sure, what feature would you like to see? I'm not very good at web500/KR reviews. D Sasha Sobol wrote: Derby, it would be interesting if you could take few shots with both lenses. Thanks, --Sasha On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Derby Changder...@iinet.net.au wrote: William Robb

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-08-01 Thread Sasha Sobol
Derby, I am not interested in charts or figures. I would rather kindly ask you to use both lenses next time you will be inclined to use one of them. I would like to see live pictures, may be with some comments of you (how it felt,etc.) Thanks, --Sasha On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 12:27 AM, Derby

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-08-01 Thread Derby Chang
Okey-doke. Should be able to arrange a gig shoot sometime soon. D Sasha Sobol wrote: Derby, I am not interested in charts or figures. I would rather kindly ask you to use both lenses next time you will be inclined to use one of them. I would like to see live pictures, may be with some

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-08-01 Thread Margus Männik
Hi, actually I disagree about this much improved part, as FA50/1.4 is not a lens that can be much improved... I tested DA*55 when it came out and I made 4 pairs of A3 prints of the same scenes (one portrait, one town view, one flower closeup and one sunset). I still watch 'em time to time.

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-08-01 Thread Thibouille
Margus, what are your findings about sharpness, specially wide open? Supposedly (I insist, I can't compare myself) the FA50 is soft wide open and DA*55 is quite sharp even wide open. What is your take on this? Thank you. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo:

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-08-01 Thread Desjardins, Steve
No wonder they don't like you on the PentaxForums ;-) Steve Desjardins On Jul 31, 2009, at 8:33 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - I'm either really lucky or else I have very low standards. Everything I buy seems to work as it is supposed to. William Robb -- PDML

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-08-01 Thread paul stenquist
From among many Pentax purchases, both used and new, I've only had serious problems with one item. My first DA* 16-50 couldn't achieve a flat focus field. It was replaced by BH. The second one was excellent. When I first bought my 20D I noticed front focus problems with the FA 50/1.4, so I

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-08-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Thibouille Subject: Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM Margus, what are your findings about sharpness, specially wide open? Supposedly (I insist, I can't compare myself) the FA50 is soft wide open and DA*55 is quite sharp even wide open. This is what I

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-08-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Desjardins, Steve Subject: Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM I'm either really lucky or else I have very low standards. Everything I buy seems to work as it is supposed to. No wonder they don't like you on the PentaxForums ;-) That and I tend

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-08-01 Thread Thibouille
IT confirms what I thought, I will have to chose between it and 60-250. Ouch !! Thank you William. On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 5:01 PM, William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Thibouille Subject: Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM Margus, what are your findings

Three samples were all bad (was: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM)

2009-08-01 Thread Mark Erickson
P. J. Alling wrote: The end user is the final QC. That's true of every manufacture these days. Read the Canon and Nikon Fora if you think their QC is any better. What struck me was that all three samples tested by DPReview had problems. Also, Andy Westlake, the DPReviewer, stated that

Re: Three samples were all bad (was: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM)

2009-08-01 Thread P. J. Alling
All manufactures send review copies of their equipment to large outlets such as DPReview. I would not be at all surprised if Nikon and Canon did extra special QC on the lenses they send out and Pentax just grabbed them of the line. That would jibe with the whole marketing ans sales as an

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-08-01 Thread Margus Männik
Thibouille wrote: Margus, what are your findings about sharpness, specially wide open? Supposedly (I insist, I can't compare myself) the FA50 is soft wide open and DA*55 is quite sharp even wide open. What is your take on this? Thank you. Actually I would say they're both equally soft at

Re: Three samples were all bad (was: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM)

2009-08-01 Thread Mark Erickson
P. J. Alling wrote: All manufactures send review copies of their equipment to large outlets such as DPReview. I would not be at all surprised if Nikon and Canon did extra special QC on the lenses they send out and Pentax just grabbed them of the line. That would jibe with the whole marketing

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-08-01 Thread Margus Männik
William Robb wrote: The DA* does come with a very impressive lens hood. Yes, it's a real good one. I made not much less impressive hood for my FA50 myself :) You need FA35 bayonet hood (I got mine from *bay for real cheap) and 49-52mm filter conversion ring. Cut off a bayonet part and glue

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-08-01 Thread Thibouille
MMm intersting as this isn't the same feedback as William's, at all. Could it be that your lens woud show an alignment problem is DPRs lens? Maybe your FA is very good :) More food for thoughts (for me)... -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX,

Re: Three samples were all bad (was: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM)

2009-08-01 Thread Thibouille
For those two particuliar lenses, yes. Good testers (specially those who can afford and DPR most probably can) get lenses from shops, not from the manufacturers. This really is simple thing to avoid any problem. Manufactures do this kind of things in every industrial markets: CPUs, GPUs always

Re: Three samples were all bad (was: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM)

2009-08-01 Thread P. J. Alling
Not that QC was better years ago when Phil wouldn't have been caught dead with a Pentax Lens... If you are going to recommend current equipment based historical purchases, you've invalidated your test. It's a subtle bias that sounds plausible until you examine it critically. Andy either has

Re: Three samples were all bad (was: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM)

2009-08-01 Thread Joseph McAllister
Chalk that up to philosophical transitioning between cultures.. On Aug 1, 2009, at 08:57 , P. J. Alling wrote: All manufactures send review copies of their equipment to large outlets such as DPReview. I would not be at all surprised if Nikon and Canon did extra special QC on the lenses

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-08-01 Thread Margus Männik
Thibouille wrote: MMm intersting as this isn't the same feedback as William's, at all. Could it be that your lens woud show an alignment problem is DPRs lens? Maybe your FA is very good :) More food for thoughts (for me)... Hard to say. The sample of DA*55 I've tested wasn't definitely a bad

RE: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-08-01 Thread J.C. O'Connell
If this defect rate is true, its absurd for a lens markded as a DA * STAR lens or a lens as expensive as it is. For that kind of money, you are paying not only for a quality lens, but also for professional testing of that lens. Amateurs do not have the proper gear to do verification testing of

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-08-01 Thread Christine Aguila
, 2009 10:01 AM Subject: Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM - Original Message - From: Thibouille Subject: Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM Margus, what are your findings about sharpness, specially wide open? Supposedly (I insist, I can't compare myself) the FA50 is soft wide open

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-08-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Christine Aguila Subject: Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM Thanks, William. Sounds like good advice. I bet the bokeh is a lot nicer on the DA* than FA too. I shall keep saving I think. :-) My FA50 is on it's way back to me due to an unnoticed

DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-07-31 Thread Bruce Walker
dpreview.com has released their full review of the Pentax smc DA* 55mm 1:1.4 SDM lens ... http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/pentax_55_1p4_p15/ Much moaning about AF; loved the lens hood. :-) General agreement that it's much improved in most ways over the FA 50. Recommended (with

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-07-31 Thread Rick Womer
/photos/RickW --- On Fri, 7/31/09, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Subject: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 9:24 AM dpreview.com has released their full review

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-07-31 Thread Joseph Tainter
/photos/RickW --- On Fri, 7/31/09, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Subject: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 9:24 AM dpreview.com has released their full review

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-07-31 Thread P. J. Alling
: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 9:24 AM dpreview.com has released their full review of the Pentax smc DA* 55mm 1:1.4 SDM lens ... http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/pentax_55_1p4_p15/ Much moaning about AF; loved the lens

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-07-31 Thread Larry Colen
bruce.wal...@gmail.com Subject: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 9:24 AM dpreview.com has released their full review of the Pentax smc DA* 55mm 1:1.4 SDM lens ... http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/pentax_55_1p4_p15

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-07-31 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:00:11AM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:31:47PM -0400, P. J. Alling wrote: The end user is the final QC. That's true of every manufacture these days. Read the Canon and Nikon Fora if you think their QC is any better. You can probably make

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-07-31 Thread Sasha Sobol
Btw, does anybody have both the DA* 55 1.4 SDM and Voigtlander 58mm 1.4? On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:59 AM, John Francisjo...@panix.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:00:11AM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:31:47PM -0400, P. J. Alling wrote: The end user is the final

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-07-31 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Sasha Sobol Subject: Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM Btw, does anybody have both the DA* 55 1.4 SDM and Voigtlander 58mm 1.4? I don't any longer. After doing a couple of shoots with the DA*55, I decided that the Nokton should go to a new home

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-07-31 Thread Sasha Sobol
That's what I thought. Thanks! LBA attacks back :P --Sasha On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:40 PM, William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Sasha Sobol Subject: Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM Btw, does anybody have both the DA* 55 1.4 SDM and Voigtlander 58mm

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-07-31 Thread Thibouille
: That's what I thought. Thanks! LBA attacks back :P --Sasha On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:40 PM, William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Sasha Sobol Subject: Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM Btw, does anybody have both the DA* 55 1.4 SDM and Voigtlander 58mm 1.4

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-07-31 Thread Miserere
2009/7/31 William Robb war...@gmail.com: I don't any longer. After doing a couple of shoots with the DA*55, I decided that the Nokton should go to a new home. The Voigtlander is a fine lens, the DA* is a better lens. William Robb Really William? I read somewhere that it didn't focus

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-07-31 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Miserere Subject: Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM 2009/7/31 William Robb war...@gmail.com: I don't any longer. After doing a couple of shoots with the DA*55, I decided that the Nokton should go to a new home. The Voigtlander is a fine lens, the DA

Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM

2009-07-31 Thread Miserere
2009/7/31 William Robb war...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Miserere Subject: Re: DPReview vs the DA* 55 1.4 SDM 2009/7/31 William Robb war...@gmail.com: I don't any longer. After doing a couple of shoots with the DA*55, I decided that the Nokton should go to a new home