Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-17 Thread Graywolf
To: PDML pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 5:02 PM Subject: Gone Again and a GFM note Last weekend Nova Scotia. This weekend Kingston. See y'all Monday (maybe Sunday night). Still haven't caught up from what I missed last weekend! g BTW, it will please (or maybe scare

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-17 Thread Graywolf
They can not find Ben Ladin, but they can find us (the american people and their neighbors). Well, all you folks who voted for Bush again are getting what you deserve. I now wonder if the terrorist did it at all. What a neat way to get people to give up their rights and freedoms without a

RE: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-17 Thread Jens Bladt
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. april 2005 18:36 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Gone Again and a GFM note They can not find Ben Ladin, but they can find us (the american people and their neighbors). Well, all you folks who voted for Bush again are getting what you deserve. I now wonder

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-17 Thread ernreed2
Quoting Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think we have too many immigrants who came from somewhere where the government had the right to walk all over their people, and who see no problem with that happening here. How long until they start building the concentration camps and gas chambers?

RE: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-17 Thread Jens Bladt
-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Gone Again and a GFM note Quoting Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think we have too many immigrants who came from somewhere where the government had the right to walk all over their people, and who see no problem with that happening here. How long until they start

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-17 Thread John Forbes
I think you'll find that just about all your immigrants fit that description, not least the earliest ones (well, since 1492, anyway). Nowadays, American emigrants fit the description too. John On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:36:21 -0400, Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They can not find Ben Ladin,

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-17 Thread Graywolf
I did not mean that personally, Eleanor. I was speaking generally. I meant to crop the quote and did not. I apologize. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think we

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-17 Thread ernreed2
Quoting Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I did not mean that personally, Eleanor. I was speaking generally. I meant to crop the quote and did not. I apologize. Thank you for that. ERNR

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-17 Thread Keith Whaley
Graywolf wrote: They can not find Ben Ladin, but they can find us (the american people and their neighbors). Well, all you folks who voted for Bush again are getting what you deserve. Did this really come out of your mouth? I guess I'm not surprised, after all... I now wonder if the terrorist

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-17 Thread Graywolf
Well, if you consider immigrants and invaders the same thing (grin). Actually immigrants (people looking to join a different culture) are a fairly recent thing. Invaders (people looking to impose their culture on others) are a far older thing. And even older is one people pushing another people

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-17 Thread Keith Whaley
Graywolf wrote: [...] Of course if you are looking for personal freedom (as opposed to political freedom, and it looks like soon for that too) there are several better choices than the US nowadays. graywolf And how about enumerating where those places might be... Just offhand, I can't think of

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-17 Thread Kenneth Waller
And all this has what to do with Pentax, photography. ??? Please take this off list. Thanking you all in advance Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 2:24 PM Subject: Re: Gone Again and a GFM

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-17 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Keith Whaley wrote: Graywolf wrote: [...] Of course if you are looking for personal freedom (as opposed to political freedom, and it looks like soon for that too) there are several better choices than the US nowadays. graywolf And how about enumerating where those places might

RE: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-17 Thread pnstenquist
-Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. april 2005 18:36 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Gone Again and a GFM note They can not find Ben Ladin, but they can find us (the american people and their neighbors). Well, all you folks who voted for Bush

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-17 Thread frank theriault
On 4/17/05, Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Canada, perhaps? (thought I'd get that in before you got flamed by Frank, Dave, Robb and Wendy :) :)) We won't flame anyone. We're just quietly taking notes, remembering who says what. The day will come when we might have use for such

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, you're not a spirit after all... wink Everyone gets a little high-spirited about GFM, so you can't blame him really...:-) wink, Jostein

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread Keith Whaley
John Francis wrote: William Robb mused: That's just your country, and it isn't supposed to happen until 2006 IIRC. By 2008. Although as the Pres. has just woken up to what it is he signed into law, and publicly stated he thinks it's a bad idea, I rather suspect that after the 60-day public

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread Jim Hemenway
Keith: http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/04/15/bush.passports.ap/index.html Jim Keith Whaley wrote: John Francis wrote: William Robb mused: That's just your country, and it isn't supposed to happen until 2006 IIRC. By 2008. Although as the Pres. has just woken up to what it is he signed into

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread Keith Whaley
Jim Hemenway wrote: Keith: http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/04/15/bush.passports.ap/index.html Jim thanks, Jim... keith

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jim HemenwaySubject: Re: Gone Again and a GFM note Keith: http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/04/15/bush.passports.ap/index.html Jim Expect to see it rewritten so as to not be a requirement of US citizens. It's the protectionist way. William Robb

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
terrorist infiltration. I doubt that anyone had protectionist intentions. On Apr 16, 2005, at 9:44 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Jim HemenwaySubject: Re: Gone Again and a GFM note Keith: http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/04/15/bush.passports.ap/index.html Jim Expect to see

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread John Francis
Keith Whaley mused: John Francis wrote: William Robb mused: That's just your country, and it isn't supposed to happen until 2006 IIRC. By 2008. Although as the Pres. has just woken up to what it is he signed into law, and publicly stated he thinks it's a bad idea, I rather

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: Gone Again and a GFM note I doubt that. The suggested rule will almost certainly be amended to exclude any additional requirements for Canadian citizens. The US auto industry immediately screamed foul when the passport

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread ernreed2
Quoting John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's of little interest to citizens of other foreign countries; for them, passports are already required. I'm not sure whether my resident alien card (aka green card) is sufficient; I always use my passport, just to be sure. Back when I had a green

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread Bob W
Hi, [...] I personally do not see what is the big outcry about passports. You intend to vote, you register to vote. You intend to drive a vehicle, you get a driver's licence. You intend to travel to another country, you get a passport. Acquiring the appropriate documents to do certain things

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's of little interest to citizens of other foreign countries; for them, passports are already required. I'm not sure whether my resident alien card (aka green card) is sufficient; I always use my passport, just to be

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread Peter J. Alling
The French and Germans governments are trying to do something in law they were never able to do with military force, because the British always managed to stop them. Bob W wrote: Hi, [...] I personally do not see what is the big outcry about passports. You intend to vote, you register to

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread John Forbes
Our resident ethnographer, Bob W, will correct me if I'm wrong, but the British army has traditionally consisted of German (Anglo-Saxon) men led by French (Norman) officers. So no wonder we stymied them. John PS: It's still the same today, after nearly a thousand years. We have generals

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: John Forbes Subject: Re: Gone Again and a GFM note Our resident ethnographer, Bob W, will correct me if I'm wrong, but the British army has traditionally consisted of German (Anglo-Saxon) men led by French (Norman) officers. So no wonder we stymied them

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele Subject: Re: Gone Again and a GFM note Well for one thing a passport now costs about $90. makes it difficult on the poor folk on the borders. I think it would be outrageous to require it at the Canadian orMexican border Don't know about

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread brooksdj
Last weekend Nova Scotia. This weekend Kingston. See y'all Monday (maybe Sunday night). Still haven't caught up from what I missed last weekend! g BTW, it will please (or maybe scare!) the GFM folks to learn that I finally got my Birth

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread ernreed2
Quoting Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's of little interest to citizens of other foreign countries; for them, passports are already required. I'm not sure whether my resident alien card (aka green card) is

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well for one thing a passport now costs about $90. makes it difficult on the poor folk on the borders. I think it would be outrageous to require it at the Canadian orMexican border Well that's a good point

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gone Again and a GFM note Well that's a good point although I think perhaps another answer for that may be to reduce the cost ... ? There are other answers, but you probably don't want to hear them. William Robb

Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-15 Thread frank theriault
Last weekend Nova Scotia. This weekend Kingston. See y'all Monday (maybe Sunday night). Still haven't caught up from what I missed last weekend! g BTW, it will please (or maybe scare!) the GFM folks to learn that I finally got my Birth Certificate, so crossing the border may be a tad smoother

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-15 Thread cbwaters
-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 5:02 PM Subject: Gone Again and a GFM note Last weekend Nova Scotia. This weekend Kingston. See y'all Monday (maybe Sunday night). Still haven't caught up from what I missed last weekend! g BTW, it will please (or maybe scare!) the GFM folks

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-15 Thread Cesar
Hey Frank! Are you sure you will have space in your bag to carry that stone tablet around? vvbg I may have to postpone my London trip, until the fall, but I do believe that GFMtn has been added to my schedule in ink... Avoiding culling and scanning more slides, César Panama City, Florida frank

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: cbwaters Subject: Re: Gone Again and a GFM note Actually Frank, I heard a news story recently that indicated the two countries would be requiring more than birth certificates for crossings in the very near future...you may want to go ahead and get yourself

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-15 Thread John Francis
William Robb mused: That's just your country, and it isn't supposed to happen until 2006 IIRC. By 2008. Although as the Pres. has just woken up to what it is he signed into law, and publicly stated he thinks it's a bad idea, I rather suspect that after the 60-day public review period called

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-15 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Last weekend Nova Scotia. This weekend Kingston. See y'all Monday (maybe Sunday night). Still haven't caught up from what I missed last weekend! g BTW, it will please (or maybe scare!) the GFM folks to learn that I finally got my Birth Certificate, so crossing the border may be a tad