RE: Lens considerations
I'll second the comment about the 20-35. I find this lens still gives me excellent results on my digital cameras. I am always reluctant to lose a lens that takes good pictures, regardless of the focal lenth(s). -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 8:11 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lens considerations Leon, if I had (a good copy of) 20-35 I would probably keep it. Having somewhat similar situation to that of yours, I opted for Tamron 28-75/2.8 and DA 21. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lens considerations
On May 29, 2009, at 22:21 , Leon Altoff wrote: Does anyone know at what focal length the 17-70 covers full frame if at all (in case I ever use film again)? At no f/l does the 17-70 cover full frame. Vignettes all the way. Joseph McAllister Pentaxian http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lens considerations
Thanks Joseph, I was thinking it wouldn't cover full frame, but hoping it would. How are the image sharpness and bokeh of the 17-70? -- Leon 2009/5/30 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com: On May 29, 2009, at 22:21 , Leon Altoff wrote: Does anyone know at what focal length the 17-70 covers full frame if at all (in case I ever use film again)? At no f/l does the 17-70 cover full frame. Vignettes all the way. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Lens considerations
Hi Leon There's a full test on the 17-70 at the following URL: http://www.photozone.de/pentax/408-pentax_1770_4 I was at one point thinking of selling my DA*16-50 and buying one new, the 20-35 still fetches good money on Ebay, not sure about the 28mm shift. Regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Leon Altoff [leon.alt...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 May 2009 06:21 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Lens considerations Hi All, I have been considering lenses recently and the fact that I seem to be changing them quite often. My main lenses are a DA 16-45 and a SIgma 50-200 (which I will hopefully soon change to a 60-250 which I have been waiting on for the past 2 years). The 16-45 seems to be a bit too short far too often for my liking, and having changed to the 50-200 is then too long for the picture I want 3 pictures later. So I am considering upgrading the 16-45 to a 17-70. My main camera is a K10D (probably upgrading to the K7 at some point, but not as an early adopter as I was with the istD and the K10D) so the SDM only should not bother me. As I am planning on selling the 16-45 and also my 20-35 to pay for the new lens it means I won't have anything to cover 20mm at full frame anymore. Does anyone know at what focal length the 17-70 covers full frame if at all (in case I ever use film again)? I know the 16-45 will cover full frame at 20 mm, but I haven't seen anything on the 17-70 so any help would be appreciated - and comments on comparative quality of build and images would also be nice. (Please don't suggest I buy a lot of primes, I have some very nice primes and will add more as time goes on, but zooms have their place.) Of course I do have to pay for new purchases and need to sell a few lenses to help offset new ones. Apart from the 16-45, I have a 20-35 and a 28mm shift, but I don't know if there is interest in these lenses anymore and I need to figure out what they are worth before officially offering them for sale. If they are still popular can someone let me know? All comment gladly accepted. Leon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lens considerations
Leon, if I had (a good copy of) 20-35 I would probably keep it. Having somewhat similar situation to that of yours, I opted for Tamron 28-75/2.8 and DA 21. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lens considerations
You'll still find times when lens changing is an annoyance even with a new, longer range zoom. While I haven't followed the prices of lenses and cameras I'd think an additional camera would be comparable in cost to a new lens which you only want for the sake of avoiding lens changes. You could have the whole range of 16mm-240mm (with a small gap 45mm-50mm), or 20mm-250mm mounted and always ready for use. You may already have two camera bodies but avoid carrying them both at once because it's too much to be toting. But consider that with two or more lenses and one body you need a case or bag to store the unused lens. With two lenses each mounted on a body you don't need a case at all if you're content to carry it all on neck/shoulder straps where you can get at it in moments. Anything else such as spare batteries, memory cards and so on can fit in a tiny belt pouch or similar. regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) 2009/5/30 Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com: Hi All, I have been considering lenses recently and the fact that I seem to be changing them quite often. My main lenses are a DA 16-45 and a SIgma 50-200 (which I will hopefully soon change to a 60-250 which I have been waiting on for the past 2 years). The 16-45 seems to be a bit too short far too often for my liking, and having changed to the 50-200 is then too long for the picture I want 3 pictures later. So I am considering upgrading the 16-45 to a 17-70. My main camera is a K10D (probably upgrading to the K7 at some point, but not as an early adopter as I was with the istD and the K10D) so the SDM only should not bother me. As I am planning on selling the 16-45 and also my 20-35 to pay for the new lens it means I won't have anything to cover 20mm at full frame anymore. Does anyone know at what focal length the 17-70 covers full frame if at all (in case I ever use film again)? I know the 16-45 will cover full frame at 20 mm, but I haven't seen anything on the 17-70 so any help would be appreciated - and comments on comparative quality of build and images would also be nice. (Please don't suggest I buy a lot of primes, I have some very nice primes and will add more as time goes on, but zooms have their place.) Of course I do have to pay for new purchases and need to sell a few lenses to help offset new ones. Apart from the 16-45, I have a 20-35 and a 28mm shift, but I don't know if there is interest in these lenses anymore and I need to figure out what they are worth before officially offering them for sale. If they are still popular can someone let me know? All comment gladly accepted. Leon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lens considerations
Hi John, Thank for the link, it's interesting to compare the 2 lenses on paper. It looks like they should produce similar quality images which is what I wanted to know. -- Leon 2009/5/30 John Whittingham jo...@carmel.ac.uk: Hi Leon There's a full test on the 17-70 at the following URL: http://www.photozone.de/pentax/408-pentax_1770_4 I was at one point thinking of selling my DA*16-50 and buying one new, the 20-35 still fetches good money on Ebay, not sure about the 28mm shift. Regards, John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Lens considerations
Hi Leon. Pleasure to help, I think the only real advantage I have with the 16-50 is the f/2.8 aperture, even the distortion is similar. Regards, john From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Leon Altoff [leon.alt...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 May 2009 21:48 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lens considerations Hi John, Thank for the link, it's interesting to compare the 2 lenses on paper. It looks like they should produce similar quality images which is what I wanted to know. -- Leon 2009/5/30 John Whittingham jo...@carmel.ac.uk: Hi Leon There's a full test on the 17-70 at the following URL: http://www.photozone.de/pentax/408-pentax_1770_4 I was at one point thinking of selling my DA*16-50 and buying one new, the 20-35 still fetches good money on Ebay, not sure about the 28mm shift. Regards, John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lens considerations
Hi Anthony, I've often considered the second body approach. I did this with film and had 2 Super A or 2 Z1p bodies which had at various times different film or different lenses attached. With digital it gets a bit expensive to replace 2 bodies at once (I have 2 istD bodies still and only one ever gets any use). I have room in my camera bag for 5 lenses max, 3 zooms and 2 small primes. My current zooms are 12-24, 16-45 50-200. If I go to 12-24, 17-70 60-250 I get overlap on all lenses with no gaps and improved quality above 50mm. I don't want to carry a larger bag, but I will cope with the slightly increased weight of the new lenses. -- Leon 2009/5/31 Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com: You'll still find times when lens changing is an annoyance even with a new, longer range zoom. While I haven't followed the prices of lenses and cameras I'd think an additional camera would be comparable in cost to a new lens which you only want for the sake of avoiding lens changes. You could have the whole range of 16mm-240mm (with a small gap 45mm-50mm), or 20mm-250mm mounted and always ready for use. You may already have two camera bodies but avoid carrying them both at once because it's too much to be toting. But consider that with two or more lenses and one body you need a case or bag to store the unused lens. With two lenses each mounted on a body you don't need a case at all if you're content to carry it all on neck/shoulder straps where you can get at it in moments. Anything else such as spare batteries, memory cards and so on can fit in a tiny belt pouch or similar. regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lens considerations
Hi Boris, I think that 28 would not be wide enough to keep me happy and I'd end up going the other way and always changing to the 12-24 (which I don't always carry). I'm thinking that I will probably keep a selection of primes for film use (which may end up just being a collection as I haven't actually shot film in years, I just don't want to give it up completely). -- Leon 2009/5/30 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Leon, if I had (a good copy of) 20-35 I would probably keep it. Having somewhat similar situation to that of yours, I opted for Tamron 28-75/2.8 and DA 21. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Lens considerations
Hi All, I have been considering lenses recently and the fact that I seem to be changing them quite often. My main lenses are a DA 16-45 and a SIgma 50-200 (which I will hopefully soon change to a 60-250 which I have been waiting on for the past 2 years). The 16-45 seems to be a bit too short far too often for my liking, and having changed to the 50-200 is then too long for the picture I want 3 pictures later. So I am considering upgrading the 16-45 to a 17-70. My main camera is a K10D (probably upgrading to the K7 at some point, but not as an early adopter as I was with the istD and the K10D) so the SDM only should not bother me. As I am planning on selling the 16-45 and also my 20-35 to pay for the new lens it means I won't have anything to cover 20mm at full frame anymore. Does anyone know at what focal length the 17-70 covers full frame if at all (in case I ever use film again)? I know the 16-45 will cover full frame at 20 mm, but I haven't seen anything on the 17-70 so any help would be appreciated - and comments on comparative quality of build and images would also be nice. (Please don't suggest I buy a lot of primes, I have some very nice primes and will add more as time goes on, but zooms have their place.) Of course I do have to pay for new purchases and need to sell a few lenses to help offset new ones. Apart from the 16-45, I have a 20-35 and a 28mm shift, but I don't know if there is interest in these lenses anymore and I need to figure out what they are worth before officially offering them for sale. If they are still popular can someone let me know? All comment gladly accepted. Leon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lens considerations
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I have been considering lenses recently and the fact that I seem to be changing them quite often. My main lenses are Well, the answer is user prime lenses. Now what was your question again? -Tim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
