Re: New computer woes.
It may also be the due to the supply chain crap Covid introduced. I've noticed other inexplicable shortages It's probably just laziness. I hadn't really looked on-line. When I need a mouse, I'm used to just going to Staples or Office Depot and buying a generic corded wheel mouse. I really should just go on Amazon, find one I like and buy a dozen of them. I can't use those track-pads that come with laptops, so the first thing I do is disable it and get an external mouse ... which is where I developed an aversion to wireless mice. Early generation wireless mice were pretty awful. The last time I had to buy a replacement mouse for my laptop, I was out of town and the only place I could find one was Walmart, and I ended up with an expensive gaming mouse (which ain't one whit better than the generic mice I usually get from Staples/Office Depot). On 6/6/2022 5:08 PM, Henk Terhell wrote: That is remarkable, as the major mail-order firms here can also supply a wide selection of wired ones within one day. Apart from the advantage of not having to change batteries, a wired mouse doesn't have the habit of dropping from my desk on the floor ... Henk Op ma 6 jun. 2022 om 21:19 schreef John Sessoms : Around here the stores are pushing wireless really hard. The stores that stock wired mice are usually out of them. On 6/5/2022 9:54 AM, Henk Terhell wrote: My wireless USB mouse didn't work well. I bought last week a Logitech B112 silent wired USB mouse having 1.8 meter wire for 12 euro. These wired ones for office applications are not at all hard to get here. Henk Op zo 5 jun. 2022 om 13:32 schreef John Sessoms : Wired USB mouse, no batteries. I don't think new computers come with the PS/2 mouse or keyboard ports. This computer has what look like HDMI ports where I'd expect them to be on the mother board. Clean, basic scroll mouse on a clean mouse pad. Optical sensor is clean. I haven't tried moving the mouse to a different USB port because they're all full, so I'd have to move everything. The mouse works Ok on my other computer ... I thought to check that. The mouse from the other computer IS a PS/2 mouse so it doesn't work on this computer. Windoze thinks the drivers are up to date. If it was any of the easy answers I'd have already found it. I hope I don't have to buy another mouse. These plain vanilla wired mice are getting hard to find. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New computer woes.
On Sun, Jun 05, 2022 at 04:54:18PM +1000, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: > That's what I meant Larry - I use them all the time now. I was somewhat > surprised that my latest HP box came with a wired mouse and keyboard. My recent purchases (Dell tower systems for my wife a couple of years ago, and one for me last year) both came with wired mice and keyboards. I can think of two reasons - one is that the're probably slightly cheaper, but I'd guess that the main reason is to remove a possible point of failure when troubleshooting the system. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New computer woes.
That is remarkable, as the major mail-order firms here can also supply a wide selection of wired ones within one day. Apart from the advantage of not having to change batteries, a wired mouse doesn't have the habit of dropping from my desk on the floor ... Henk Op ma 6 jun. 2022 om 21:19 schreef John Sessoms : > Around here the stores are pushing wireless really hard. The stores that > stock wired mice are usually out of them. > > On 6/5/2022 9:54 AM, Henk Terhell wrote: > > My wireless USB mouse didn't work well. I bought last week a Logitech > B112 > > silent wired USB mouse having 1.8 meter wire for 12 euro. > > These wired ones for office applications are not at all hard to get here. > > Henk > > > > Op zo 5 jun. 2022 om 13:32 schreef John Sessoms : > > > >> Wired USB mouse, no batteries. I don't think new computers come with the > >> PS/2 mouse or keyboard ports. This computer has what look like HDMI > >> ports where I'd expect them to be on the mother board. > >> > >> Clean, basic scroll mouse on a clean mouse pad. Optical sensor is clean. > >> I haven't tried moving the mouse to a different USB port because they're > >> all full, so I'd have to move everything. > >> > >> The mouse works Ok on my other computer ... I thought to check that. The > >> mouse from the other computer IS a PS/2 mouse so it doesn't work on this > >> computer. > >> > >> Windoze thinks the drivers are up to date. If it was any of the easy > >> answers I'd have already found it. > >> > >> I hope I don't have to buy another mouse. These plain vanilla wired mice > >> are getting hard to find. > > > -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New computer woes.
Around here the stores are pushing wireless really hard. The stores that stock wired mice are usually out of them. On 6/5/2022 9:54 AM, Henk Terhell wrote: My wireless USB mouse didn't work well. I bought last week a Logitech B112 silent wired USB mouse having 1.8 meter wire for 12 euro. These wired ones for office applications are not at all hard to get here. Henk Op zo 5 jun. 2022 om 13:32 schreef John Sessoms : Wired USB mouse, no batteries. I don't think new computers come with the PS/2 mouse or keyboard ports. This computer has what look like HDMI ports where I'd expect them to be on the mother board. Clean, basic scroll mouse on a clean mouse pad. Optical sensor is clean. I haven't tried moving the mouse to a different USB port because they're all full, so I'd have to move everything. The mouse works Ok on my other computer ... I thought to check that. The mouse from the other computer IS a PS/2 mouse so it doesn't work on this computer. Windoze thinks the drivers are up to date. If it was any of the easy answers I'd have already found it. I hope I don't have to buy another mouse. These plain vanilla wired mice are getting hard to find. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New computer woes.
My wireless USB mouse didn't work well. I bought last week a Logitech B112 silent wired USB mouse having 1.8 meter wire for 12 euro. These wired ones for office applications are not at all hard to get here. Henk Op zo 5 jun. 2022 om 13:32 schreef John Sessoms : > Wired USB mouse, no batteries. I don't think new computers come with the > PS/2 mouse or keyboard ports. This computer has what look like HDMI > ports where I'd expect them to be on the mother board. > > Clean, basic scroll mouse on a clean mouse pad. Optical sensor is clean. > I haven't tried moving the mouse to a different USB port because they're > all full, so I'd have to move everything. > > The mouse works Ok on my other computer ... I thought to check that. The > mouse from the other computer IS a PS/2 mouse so it doesn't work on this > computer. > > Windoze thinks the drivers are up to date. If it was any of the easy > answers I'd have already found it. > > I hope I don't have to buy another mouse. These plain vanilla wired mice > are getting hard to find. > > -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New computer woes.
Wired USB mouse, no batteries. I don't think new computers come with the PS/2 mouse or keyboard ports. This computer has what look like HDMI ports where I'd expect them to be on the mother board. Clean, basic scroll mouse on a clean mouse pad. Optical sensor is clean. I haven't tried moving the mouse to a different USB port because they're all full, so I'd have to move everything. The mouse works Ok on my other computer ... I thought to check that. The mouse from the other computer IS a PS/2 mouse so it doesn't work on this computer. Windoze thinks the drivers are up to date. If it was any of the easy answers I'd have already found it. I hope I don't have to buy another mouse. These plain vanilla wired mice are getting hard to find. On 6/5/2022 1:48 AM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: Forgive my asking the obvious - and I know you're very experienced! USB or hard-wired mouse? If USB - mouse battery Ok? USB port functions correctly with other devices? If hard-wired - will it work on another PC? In either case - drivers up-to-date? No particles blocking the optical sensor? In either case, if you have another mouse, remove it from devices in the system and install an old one and test. HTH John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: John Sessoms Sent: Sunday, 5 June 2022 12:29 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT: New computer woes. I've started having a problem where the mouse pointer just disappears & won't come back. Windoze10 (came preinstalled on the new computer I bought when my old computer died). I've done the two things Micro$oft recommends - ♦ UNCHECKED the box that says "Hide the mouse pointer while typing", and ♦ CHECKED the box that says "Show the location of the pointer when I press the CTRL key. When the pointer disappears pressing CTRL causes an expanding circle to flash momentarily on the scree showing where the mouse pointer is supposed to be. But at the same time I can't move the pointer with the mouse. No matter how I move the mouse, the pointer is frozen in the same position. The only way I've found to bring the mouse pointer back when it malfunctions this way is use keyboard commands CTRL+ALT+DEL to bring up a log off screen (using the tab key to move the focus to the appropriate box) and then powering off the computer. Not very satisfactory. -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: New computer woes.
That's what I meant Larry - I use them all the time now. I was somewhat surprised that my latest HP box came with a wired mouse and keyboard. John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: Larry Colen Sent: Sunday, 5 June 2022 4:03 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: New computer woes. > On Jun 4, 2022, at 10:48 PM, > wrote: > > Forgive my asking the obvious - and I know you're very experienced! > USB or hard-wired mouse? > If USB - mouse battery Ok? USB port functions correctly with other devices? I think you mean bluetooth, not USB. USB is hard wired. Or there are some USB dongle wireless mice. > If hard-wired - will it work on another PC? > > In either case - drivers up-to-date? > No particles blocking the optical sensor? > > In either case, if you have another mouse, remove it from devices in the > system and install an old one and test. > > HTH > > John in Brisbane > > > -Original Message- > From: John Sessoms > Sent: Sunday, 5 June 2022 12:29 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: OT: New computer woes. > > I've started having a problem where the mouse pointer just disappears & won't > come back. > > Windoze10 (came preinstalled on the new computer I bought when my old > computer died). > > I've done the two things Micro$oft recommends - ♦ UNCHECKED the box that says > "Hide the mouse pointer while typing", and ♦ CHECKED the box that says "Show > the location of the pointer when I press the CTRL key. > > When the pointer disappears pressing CTRL causes an expanding circle to flash > momentarily on the scree showing where the mouse pointer is supposed to be. > > But at the same time I can't move the pointer with the mouse. No matter how I > move the mouse, the pointer is frozen in the same position. > > The only way I've found to bring the mouse pointer back when it > malfunctions this way is use keyboard commands CTRL+ALT+DEL to bring > up a log off screen (using the tab key to move the focus to the > appropriate > box) and then powering off the computer. > > Not very satisfactory. > > -- > Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to > pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to > pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the > link directly above and follow the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New computer woes.
> On Jun 4, 2022, at 10:48 PM, > wrote: > > Forgive my asking the obvious - and I know you're very experienced! > USB or hard-wired mouse? > If USB - mouse battery Ok? USB port functions correctly with other devices? I think you mean bluetooth, not USB. USB is hard wired. Or there are some USB dongle wireless mice. > If hard-wired - will it work on another PC? > > In either case - drivers up-to-date? > No particles blocking the optical sensor? > > In either case, if you have another mouse, remove it from devices in the > system and install an old one and test. > > HTH > > John in Brisbane > > > -Original Message- > From: John Sessoms > Sent: Sunday, 5 June 2022 12:29 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: OT: New computer woes. > > I've started having a problem where the mouse pointer just disappears & won't > come back. > > Windoze10 (came preinstalled on the new computer I bought when my old > computer died). > > I've done the two things Micro$oft recommends - ♦ UNCHECKED the box that says > "Hide the mouse pointer while typing", and ♦ CHECKED the box that says "Show > the location of the pointer when I press the CTRL key. > > When the pointer disappears pressing CTRL causes an expanding circle to flash > momentarily on the scree showing where the mouse pointer is supposed to be. > > But at the same time I can't move the pointer with the mouse. No matter how I > move the mouse, the pointer is frozen in the same position. > > The only way I've found to bring the mouse pointer back when it malfunctions > this way is use keyboard commands CTRL+ALT+DEL to bring up a log off screen > (using the tab key to move the focus to the appropriate > box) and then powering off the computer. > > Not very satisfactory. > > -- > Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the > PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: New computer woes.
Forgive my asking the obvious - and I know you're very experienced! USB or hard-wired mouse? If USB - mouse battery Ok? USB port functions correctly with other devices? If hard-wired - will it work on another PC? In either case - drivers up-to-date? No particles blocking the optical sensor? In either case, if you have another mouse, remove it from devices in the system and install an old one and test. HTH John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: John Sessoms Sent: Sunday, 5 June 2022 12:29 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT: New computer woes. I've started having a problem where the mouse pointer just disappears & won't come back. Windoze10 (came preinstalled on the new computer I bought when my old computer died). I've done the two things Micro$oft recommends - ♦ UNCHECKED the box that says "Hide the mouse pointer while typing", and ♦ CHECKED the box that says "Show the location of the pointer when I press the CTRL key. When the pointer disappears pressing CTRL causes an expanding circle to flash momentarily on the scree showing where the mouse pointer is supposed to be. But at the same time I can't move the pointer with the mouse. No matter how I move the mouse, the pointer is frozen in the same position. The only way I've found to bring the mouse pointer back when it malfunctions this way is use keyboard commands CTRL+ALT+DEL to bring up a log off screen (using the tab key to move the focus to the appropriate box) and then powering off the computer. Not very satisfactory. -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: New computer woes.
I've started having a problem where the mouse pointer just disappears & won't come back. Windoze10 (came preinstalled on the new computer I bought when my old computer died). I've done the two things Micro$oft recommends - ♦ UNCHECKED the box that says "Hide the mouse pointer while typing", and ♦ CHECKED the box that says "Show the location of the pointer when I press the CTRL key. When the pointer disappears pressing CTRL causes an expanding circle to flash momentarily on the scree showing where the mouse pointer is supposed to be. But at the same time I can't move the pointer with the mouse. No matter how I move the mouse, the pointer is frozen in the same position. The only way I've found to bring the mouse pointer back when it malfunctions this way is use keyboard commands CTRL+ALT+DEL to bring up a log off screen (using the tab key to move the focus to the appropriate box) and then powering off the computer. Not very satisfactory. -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
