J. C. O'Connell wrote:
Have you actully WORKED on a 1600x1200
pc and didnt you find going back to
1280x960 very claustrophobic? I do
whenever I have to..
I sure do. And I run my SyncMaster 955DF at 1600 x 1200 quite successfully.
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Mark Roberts wrote:
Scott Loveless wrote:
If viewing web pages and images forces me to conform to someone's
idiotic ideas about web design, I'll just surf somewhere else.
I think that one will go into my selection of course material along
with the Savage Principle.
It goes double for
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From: Doug Franklin
Subject: Re: POLL - Computer Screen Size Resolution
I sure do. And I run my SyncMaster 955DF at 1600 x 1200 quite
successfully.
This guy sez the view is somewhat compromised doing that.
http://www.dansdata.com/955df.htm
William Robb
Boris,
I concur. I really don't mind vertical scrolling, because I have this
wheel on the mouse horizontal scrolling upsets me ;-).
Apple Mighty Mouse might be your remedy. ;-)
Cheers,
Peter
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Hi Jan,
For daily work and most browsing, a laptop with 15 inch 1024x768
(NOT running Mac, Windows or Linux , so no Flash either :-)
so it's DOS ;-) *BSD or ?
Cheers,
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1) What size screen do you use
17' LCD (1280x1024) and 12' LCD (1024x786)
2) What resolution do you prefer?
1600x1200 (not on my screens though ;-)).
We bought some NEC SpectraView 2090 LCDs for colour corrections and
they're great. A-TW-IPS, HW calibration (in the LCD itself) etc.
On 07/04/07, Peter Lacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Jan,
For daily work and most browsing, a laptop with 15 inch 1024x768
(NOT running Mac, Windows or Linux , so no Flash either :-)
Ooh, I missed a screen poll.
I run two dual screens as a composite desktop, primary is CRT and
secondary is
Hi Peter,
On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 08:18:29 +0100, Peter Lacus wrote:
For daily work and most browsing, a laptop with 15 inch 1024x768
(NOT running Mac, Windows or Linux , so no Flash either :-)
so it's DOS ;-) *BSD or ?
No, it is OS/2, or rather its latest incarnation 'eComStation'.
I worked
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
1) What size screen do you use
17 inch CRT (an aging Panasonic)at 1260x1024 for the primary, secondary
is a 'junker' 15 inch CRT at 1024x768.
Primary is on a KVM with with another PC that is sometimes at 1280x1024
and sometimes at 1024x768.
Laptop is an old 800 x 600
Doug Franklin wrote:
William Robb wrote:
I do things like font size=+2 and the like if I want to make a
header,
but otherwise, I don't put font size tags in at all, to allow the
individual
to choose how big the font will be.
Same here, except I typically use 120% or 1.2em or some such.
Mark Roberts wrote:
Yep. Both approaches work but I don't allow my students to use
old-style HTML 3.2 tags like FONT, so we just use percentages or EMs
in stylesheets.
I generally don't either. I use style sheets for prettifying but try
to make the pages work without the sheet and on a
Great phrase!
(Mark!)
Mark, please, keep teaching what you are teaching!
You are doing a great job using the right foundation!
(I used your phrase as a quotation for my friends web-programmers.)
Igor
Fri Apr 6 09:03:56 EDT 2007
Mark Roberts wrote:
It's really challenging for a lot of
Mark,
One important thing to keep in mind for the design of webpages,
which is often overlooked by web-designers and even program designers:
For large monitors and laptops people like using large (125%) fonts
as defined in the Windows display properties.
If you do not account for this, you may
1. a) 10.8 laptop
b) same laptop often with a 20 CRT monitor at work.
c) desktop 19 CRT monitor
2. a) Laptop (widescreen): 1280x768
b) Laptop + 20 CRT monitor: 1280x1024
c) desktop: 1280x1024
3. a) about 600 high and about 800-1000 wide, as I prefer
not to use the maximum width of
Igor Roshchin wrote:
One important thing to keep in mind for the design of webpages,
which is often overlooked by web-designers and even program designers:
For large monitors and laptops people like using large (125%) fonts
as defined in the Windows display properties.
If you do not account
- Original Message -
From: Doug Franklin
Subject: Re: POLL - Computer Screen Size Resolution (for Mark)
The best bet is to never specify absolute sizes or require specific
absolute sizes for your site to work. Use the default sizes the user
selected with scaling by percentages
Are you going to tally the responses, Shel? I noticed some people like PESOs
relatively small and it would be nice to know the maximum dimensions some
find acceptable.
Marnie aka Doe :-) (I can always read the archives, but tally would be
nice.)
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William Robb wrote:
I do things like font size=+2 and the like if I want to make a header,
but otherwise, I don't put font size tags in at all, to allow the individual
to choose how big the font will be.
Same here, except I typically use 120% or 1.2em or some such.
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DougF
Mark Roberts wrote:
Scott Loveless wrote:
If viewing web pages and images forces me to conform to someone's
idiotic ideas about web design, I'll just surf somewhere else.
Mark!
Ha ha.
Oops. Got it.
;-)
I think that one will go into my selection of course material along
On Apr 4, 2007, at 4:01 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
1) What size screen do you use
2x 19
2) What resolution do you prefer?
2x 1600x1200
3) What's the largest size image that you can see on your screen
without
undue scrolling? This would have to take into consideration real
estate
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1. 15.4 16:10 Laptop screen (replaced my 21 CRT running at 1856x1392,
miss teh resolution, but the LCD is far more crisp, which makes up for a
lot. Looks way better than any 19 CRT running at 1600x1200)
2. 1280x800 (max res)
3
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1. 15.4 16:10 Laptop screen (replaced my 21 CRT running at 1856x1392,
miss teh
DiGiorgi
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My workstation screen is a Cinema Display 23, native resolution
1920x1200 pixels.
My laptop screen is a cinema format 15, native resolution 1290x960
pixels.
I run them
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1. 15.4 16:10 Laptop screen (replaced my 21 CRT running at 1856x1392,
miss teh resolution, but the LCD is far more crisp, which makes up for a
lot
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1. 15.4 16:10 Laptop screen (replaced my 21 CRT running at 1856x1392,
miss teh resolution
On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 21:01:40 -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
1) What size screen do you use
For photoshop work, a 19 inch at 1280x1024
For daily work and most browsing, a laptop with 15 inch 1024x768
(NOT running Mac, Windows or Linux , so no Flash either :-)
2) What resolution do you prefer?
Responses interspersed.
John Coyle
Praxis Data Solutions (www.epraxisdata.com)
Brisbane, Australia
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From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PDML PDML@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 2:01 PM
Subject: POLL - Computer Screen Size Resolution
Since there has
On 4/4/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This approach is the wrong way round really.
The ideal size across the diagonal for a picture should be about half
the viewing distance. The recommended viewing distance for a computer
screen is about 30 inches (75cm).
75cm! My deck is only 75cm
1) What size screen do you use
1x30 + 2x20
2) What resolution do you prefer?
2560 X 1600
3) What's the largest size image that you can see on your screen without
undue scrolling? This would have to take into consideration real estate
eaten up by the browser.
see above. i use two
On Apr 4, 2007, at 12:47 AM, Bob W wrote:
This approach is the wrong way round really.
The ideal size across the diagonal for a picture should be about half
the viewing distance. The recommended viewing distance for a computer
screen is about 30 inches (75cm). So the maximum size of your
On Apr 4, 2007, at 12:01 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Since there has been a rather interesting and lively discussion in
a couple
of other threads discussing computer screen size and resolution, it
may be
time to poll the topic again.
1) What size screen do you use
Main display:
First of all, thanks to Shel for starting this thread, and thanks to
everyone who's replied so far... and to everyone who is going to reply
before it's over ;-)
This is actually valuable real-world information that I'm going to be
able to use in my web design class. The PDML, which comprises
Quoting Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Since there has been a rather interesting and lively discussion in
a couple
of other threads discussing computer screen size and resolution, it
may be
time to poll the topic again.
1) What size screen do you use
19 inch LCD
2) What
Since there has been a rather interesting and lively discussion in a couple
of other threads discussing computer screen size and resolution, it may be
time to poll the topic again.
1) What size screen do you use
2x21 Sony-based CRT montitors
2) What resolution do you prefer?
On 4/4/07, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since there has been a rather interesting and lively discussion in a couple
of other threads discussing computer screen size and resolution, it may be
time to poll the topic again.
1) What size screen do you use
crt, 17 1024 x 768
samsung
On 4/3/07, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since there has been a rather interesting and lively discussion in a couple
of other threads discussing computer screen size and resolution, it may be
time to poll the topic again.
1) What size screen do you use
12 Powerbook TFT
2) What
Responses interspersed.
-P
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Since there has been a rather interesting and lively discussion in a couple
of other threads discussing computer screen size and resolution, it may be
time to poll the topic again.
1) What size screen do you use
17
2) What
Mark Roberts wrote:
Incidentally, one thing I've noticed from the results in general so far
that *is* trypical of web users in general is that people *hate*
horizontal scrolling.
I concur. I really don't mind vertical scrolling, because I have this
wheel on the mouse horizontal scrolling
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Since there has been a rather interesting and lively discussion in a couple
of other threads discussing computer screen size and resolution, it may be
time to poll the topic again.
A poll to make JCO angry, but I'll bite
1) What size screen do you use
laptop
...
jco
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Adam Maas
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 3:47 AM
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I've seen a lot of monitors, good and bad. For general use
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Since there has been a rather interesting and lively discussion in a couple
of other threads discussing computer screen size and resolution, it may be
time to poll the topic again.
1) What size screen do you use
We have two workstations. One has a 17 SyncMaster
Scott Loveless wrote:
If viewing web pages and images forces me to conform to someone's
idiotic ideas about web design, I'll just surf somewhere else.
Mark!
Oops. Got it.
;-)
I think that one will go into my selection of course material along
with the Savage Principle.
Hmm, Savage and
I guess it would be nice if I participated in my own poll ;-))
1) A 19-inch CRT
2) 1024 x 768
3) I think it's about 900px or 1000px wide, depending on the browser setup
used
4) 800w x 560h or so is just about perfect. I don't mind a little taller
as I can expand the height of the screen
1. 17 Dell and a 23 Mac, 1280x1024 and 1920x1200
resolution respectively.
2. the highest resolution possible
3. on the 17 probably nothing more than about
1000~1200 wide and no more than 800 tall. On the 23,
no more than 1800 wide and 1000 pixels tall.
4, Generally I like to view images with at
images do you prefer to look at?
900X600
5) If you had to scroll to see an entire image, would you be less
inclined
to view additional images from that poster?
Yes
Kenneth Waller
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From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: POLL - Computer Screen Size
1) 17
2) 1152x864
3) about 900x600; maybe even 1024x786 depending on ads, menus etc...
4) probably 900x600 maximum 300x450 minimum...anything less than
that is a thumbnail
5) only on the horizontal; I tolerate having to scroll vertically
since my monitor is oriented horizontally. in fact I
1) 17
2) 1024 x 768
3) aprox 950 x 633
4) aprox 950 x 633
5) Yes
Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
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1) 15 and 17
2) 1024x768
3) 970x648
4) min 800x600 max 970x648
5) Yes
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Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Since there has been a rather interesting and lively discussion in a
couple
of other threads discussing computer screen size and resolution, it
may be
time to poll the topic again.
1) What size screen do you use
IBM P260 nominal 21, 19.8 visible
2) What
Assuming 90 dots per inch resolution and a 1:1 mapping, your
picture
should be 1440x2160 = 31 megabytes.
That rules out almost all monitors and line speeds for optimum
viewing.
For optimum viewing therefore you need to decide for yourself
what is the target screen size and
On 4/4/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I should have added to my post that given the current
near-impossibility of providing the optimum size of photograph, you
have to compromise. The trade-offs are between showing the fine detail
as best you can, and showing the whole picture at the
I think what hasnt been said but needs
to be said regarding this thread is
that the optimum size photo to use
for general interest as well as photo
interest web galleries/sites IS A MOVING
TARGET.
I remember when 600 pixels wide was recommended
(mostly for bandwidth reasons but also limited
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On 4/4/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I should have added to my post that given the current
near-impossibility
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On 4/4/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I should have added to my post that given the current
near-impossibility of providing the optimum size
Sure. But constructive advice is not what happened. He showed the
pictures in all good faith, and people started having a go at him.
It's just bullying, and he has a right to defend himself.
Not quite.
I went back and read the thread in the archives.
Constructive advice was exactly how this
William Robb wrote:
Sure. But constructive advice is not what happened. He showed the
pictures in all good faith, and people started having a go at him.
It's just bullying, and he has a right to defend himself.
Not quite.
I went back and read the thread in the archives.
Constructive advice
is just that, YOUR INTERPRETATION,
and certainly not a matter of fact..
jco
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William Robb wrote:
Sure. But constructive advice is not what happened. He showed the
pictures in all good faith, and people started having a go at him
On 4/4/07, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1) What size screen do you use
Brand new monitor - 23 LCD display (Apple Cinema). 1920x1200.
On the laptop, it's a 12 LCD, 1024x768.
2) What resolution do you prefer?
See above. With LCD displays, you should _always_ run them at their
max
1) The smallest is on this here 12 in MacBook; there's
also a 17 in iMac and a 15 in HP laptop screen (all
calibrated).
2) Native resolution, in this case 1280 x 800 (others
are about the same).
3) 600 pixels high, 1000 pixels wide. If no title or
border, add 100 pixels.
4) 300 high min, 600
in an unrelated news, IT'S BETTER TO BE RICH AND HEALTHY
than poor and sick...
best,
mishka
HIGHER DISPLAY NET RESOLUTION IS SIMPLY
BETTER than lower NET display resolution...
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Well at least you arent arguing that
poor and sick are better for reading text...
jco
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Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Since there has been a rather interesting and lively discussion in a couple
of other threads discussing computer screen size and resolution, it may be
time to poll the topic again.
1) What size screen do you use
answer: I have a PROVIEW LCD 17 inch (and an 19
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Apr 4, 2007, at 12:47 AM, Bob W wrote:
This approach is the wrong way round really.
The ideal size across the diagonal for a picture should be about half
the viewing distance. The recommended viewing distance for a computer
screen is about 30 inches (75cm).
Since there has been a rather interesting and lively discussion in a couple
of other threads discussing computer screen size and resolution, it may be
time to poll the topic again.
1) What size screen do you use
2) What resolution do you prefer?
3) What's the largest size image that you can
1. 15.4 16:10 Laptop screen (replaced my 21 CRT running at 1856x1392,
miss teh resolution, but the LCD is far more crisp, which makes up for a
lot. Looks way better than any 19 CRT running at 1600x1200)
2. 1280x800 (max res)
3. 1000x700 or so
4. 800-1000 horizontal, 5-700 vertical
5. yes
-Adam
Answers in line.
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Since there has been a rather interesting and lively discussion in a couple
of other threads discussing computer screen size and resolution, it may be
time to poll the topic again.
1) What size screen do you use
19 CRT.
2) What resolution do you
Interestingly, my Samsung CRT, a SynchMaster 955DF (19) apparently isn't
actually capable of providing a good quality image at settings above
1280x960.
Admitedly, it isn't a high end monitor, but it was considered fairly good in
it's day. IIRC.
I expect most screens suffer the same sort of
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From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: POLL - Computer Screen Size Resolution
Since there has been a rather interesting and lively discussion in a
couple
of other threads discussing computer screen size and resolution, it may be
time to poll the topic again.
1
In a message dated 4/3/2007 9:06:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Since there has been a rather interesting and lively discussion in a couple
of other threads discussing computer screen size and resolution, it may be
time to poll the topic again.
1) What size screen
On 4/4/07, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since there has been a rather interesting and lively discussion in a couple
of other threads discussing computer screen size and resolution, it may be
time to poll the topic again.
1) What size screen do you use
1x 19 CRT (main display)
1x
My workstation screen is a Cinema Display 23, native resolution
1920x1200 pixels.
My laptop screen is a cinema format 15, native resolution 1290x960
pixels.
I run them at the native resolution.
Which is mostly irrelevant. I can see quite a large image on screen,
even in a browser window,
Hi!
Since there has been a rather interesting and lively discussion in a couple
of other threads discussing computer screen size and resolution, it may be
time to poll the topic again.
1) What size screen do you use
2) What resolution do you prefer?
3) What's the largest size image
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