Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, Patrick Genovese wrote: Check out Phil's preview on this page at the very bottom: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pentaxk10d/page9.asp There is a setting : Using aperture ring 1: Prohibited 2: Permitted Does this mean we can use the aperture ring in the

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread mike wilson
From: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/14 Thu AM 09:31:39 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring Check out Phil's preview on this page at the very bottom: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pentaxk10d/page9.asp There

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Patrick Genovese
:-( On 9/14/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/14 Thu AM 09:31:39 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring Check out Phil's preview on this page at the very bottom:

RE: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I still don't know what an aperture simulator is, but the earlier D-series cameras had the same menu setting, and many of us have been using lenses with aperture rings all along. Shel [Original Message] From: Patrick Genovese http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pentaxk10d/page9.asp There

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
No. On Sep 14, 2006, at 5:31 AM, Patrick Genovese wrote: Check out Phil's preview on this page at the very bottom: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pentaxk10d/page9.asp There is a setting : Using aperture ring 1: Prohibited 2: Permitted Does this mean we can use the aperture ring

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread David Savage
Have a look here Shel: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Misc_014.html The circled lever is the aperture simulator on my LX. This is how the body knows what the lens aperture is set to. The lever and the associated electronics are what is missing from all the DSLR's is why we have the green

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:23:48 +0200 schreef Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I still don't know what an aperture simulator is, With pre-A lenses, the lens determines how much it is stopped down. In order to measure exposure wide open, the body must know how much the lens will stop down

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
OK, thanks. I think someone explained this before, but I didn't get it. Now I understand. Shel [Original Message] From: Lucas Rijnders schreef Shel Belinkoff I still don't know what an aperture simulator is, With pre-A lenses, the lens determines how much it is stopped down. In

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread J and K Messervy
-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:12 PM Subject: Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring Have a look here Shel: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Misc_014.html The circled lever is the aperture simulator on my LX. This is how the body knows what the lens

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thanks, Dave ... between your pics and explanation, and Lucas's explanation, I finally got it. I knew all along how the lens/body thing worked on older lenses, but the term aperture simulator threw me. I never knew what it was called. Hard to believe, eh ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From:

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:12:13 +0200 schreef David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have a look here Shel: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Misc_014.html The circled lever is the aperture simulator on my LX. This is how the body knows what the lens aperture is set to. The lever and the

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Carlos Royo
J and K Messervy wrote: The istDL doesn't have a green button, so I've found that I have to use the DOF preview lever to stop down the lens to get the right exposure settings in M mode. It works but is not quick or convenient. You can also use the AE-L button, it does the same than the

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Bob Shell
On Sep 14, 2006, at 7:40 AM, Lucas Rijnders wrote: I think you picture the diafragm release and the diafragm actuator (nine o'clock position in the mount, right?). Those are the pins responsible for actually stopping the lens down at exposure time, and definately still there in the

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread David Savage
Fuck! Sorry about that. It's been updated. Dave (doesn't know his arse from his elbow) S. On 9/14/06, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:12:13 +0200 schreef David Savage http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Misc_014.html I think you picture the diafragm release

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 14, 2006, at 2:31 AM, Patrick Genovese wrote: Check out Phil's preview on this page at the very bottom: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pentaxk10d/page9.asp There is a setting : Using aperture ring 1: Prohibited 2: Permitted Does this mean we can use the aperture ring in

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
CF: Set Using Aperture Ring to Permitted Mode Selector: Set exposure to M Set aperture to desired value with the ring.With the meter activated, press the AE-Lock button. Lens will stop down briefly, a reading will be taken, the shutter speed will be set to match and the meter reading will

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread P. J. Alling
If you look at the lens mount pictures, I think you'll agree the answer is no. Patrick Genovese wrote: Check out Phil's preview on this page at the very bottom: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pentaxk10d/page9.asp There is a setting : Using aperture ring 1: Prohibited 2: Permitted

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread P. J. Alling
The aperture simulator is the little lever in the camera body that mates to the aperture lever in the lens. Its on the upper right side of the mount, when viewed from the front, on all high quality K mount cameras before the digital era, and all K mount cameras before the advent of the MZ/ZX

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Brendan MacRae
Of course, this makes pefect sense. Then the wheels are only used for the DA lenses. If this is true it's my favorite feature of the camera so far. It's the little things in life... -Brendan --- Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out Phil's preview on this page at the very

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Brendan MacRae
nuts! -brendan --- mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/14 Thu AM 09:31:39 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring Check out Phil's preview on this page at the very

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread P. J. Alling
but is not quick or convenient. James - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:12 PM Subject: Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring Have a look here Shel: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread P. J. Alling
Look again Bob, Dave's right. Bob Shell wrote: On Sep 14, 2006, at 7:40 AM, Lucas Rijnders wrote: I think you picture the diafragm release and the diafragm actuator (nine o'clock position in the mount, right?). Those are the pins responsible for actually stopping the lens down at

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Adam Maas
Nope, wheels are used for all A and later lenses set to A. There's no aperture simulator to relay the selected aperture to the camera anyways, so using a lens off the A setting would inherently involve the green button hack. -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: Of course, this makes pefect sense.

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread pnstenquist
Not true. Find a new favorite feature. -- Original message -- From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course, this makes pefect sense. Then the wheels are only used for the DA lenses. If this is true it's my favorite feature of the camera so far. It's the

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 09:27:00PM +1000, J and K Messervy wrote: The istDL doesn't have a green button, so I've found that I have to use the DOF preview lever to stop down the lens to get the right exposure settings in M mode. It works but is not quick or convenient. James I don't

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread P. J. Alling
I apoligize for that, I didn't realize that Dave had changed the pictures... P. J. Alling wrote: Look again Bob, Dave's right. Bob Shell wrote: On Sep 14, 2006, at 7:40 AM, Lucas Rijnders wrote: I think you picture the diafragm release and the diafragm actuator (nine o'clock

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread J and K Messervy
Very true mate and it works well enough for me. - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 3:05 AM Subject: Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring Well it's quicker and more convenient than

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread J and K Messervy
- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 1:58 AM Subject: Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring CF: Set Using Aperture Ring to Permitted Mode Selector: Set exposure to M Set aperture to desired value with the ring.With

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread J and K Messervy
, September 15, 2006 3:47 AM Subject: Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 09:27:00PM +1000, J and K Messervy wrote: The istDL doesn't have a green button, so I've found that I have to use the DOF preview lever to stop down the lens to get the right exposure settings

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring CF: Set Using Aperture Ring to Permitted Mode Selector: Set exposure to M Set aperture to desired value with the ring.With the meter activated, press the AE-Lock button. Lens will stop down briefly, a reading will be taken, the shutter speed will be set

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I forgot to add ... use an out of focus white wall as a test target. G On Sep 14, 2006, at 4:19 PM, J and K Messervy wrote: I just tried that and while the lens does stop down, it doesn't set the exposure at 0.0. It seems I still can only do it with the DOF switch...which isn't an issue

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread John Francis
and Lenses with Aperture Ring On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 09:27:00PM +1000, J and K Messervy wrote: The istDL doesn't have a green button, so I've found that I have to use the DOF preview lever to stop down the lens to get the right exposure settings in M mode. It works but is not quick

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread J and K Messervy
Doh, I'm an idiot...it is workingthanks guys. James - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 10:07 AM Subject: Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring I forgot to add ... use an out

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread P. J. Alling
DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 1:58 AM Subject: Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring CF: Set Using Aperture Ring to Permitted Mode Selector: Set exposure to M Set aperture to desired value with the ring.With the meter

Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring

2006-09-14 Thread P. J. Alling
] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 3:47 AM Subject: Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 09:27:00PM +1000, J and K Messervy wrote: The istDL doesn't have a green button, so I've found that I have to use the DOF preview lever